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Fair Catch Kickoff passed

amindan54 : 5/23/2023 11:35 am
this makes kickoffs even less of a priority for specials IMO.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1661032653628510210

special team players are becoming less and less important.

brightwells values is less now to make the team because of this.

wonder who else this affects on teh roster bubble?
Goodell is the worst  
SicilianGMEN : 5/23/2023 11:39 am : link
No one is going to return kicks now unless they are shanked and picked up around the 15-20
a lot of special team coaches are saying there will be an increase in  
amindan54 : 5/23/2023 11:40 am : link
squib kicks....will that materialize?
I do not perceive problems with the game  
D HOS : 5/23/2023 11:59 am : link
I feel like the league is trying to address issues that are not there. What's the point of this change, like so many previous others? kickoffs are violent? It's a rough sport. Change the equipment, the field, the training, the techniques, but not the game itself.
interesting data....will they cancel punts?  
amindan54 : 5/23/2023 11:59 am : link

Tom Pelissero
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Speaking on the new fair catch rule, NFL exec Jeff Miller cites higher concussion rates on kickoffs and punts relative to other plays and says unprompted: “There may be more to come.”

Modeling says return rate will drop from 38% to 31% and concussion rate drop 15%, Miller says.
i have had this random thought on it  
nyfootballfan : 5/23/2023 12:19 pm : link
probably dumb but why not have teams line up tight to scrimmage line like a punt? maybe on receiving 35-40yd line? would this reduce the high speed impacts?
RE: i have had this random thought on it  
bLiTz 2k : 5/23/2023 12:21 pm : link
In comment 16121775 nyfootballfan said:
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probably dumb but why not have teams line up tight to scrimmage line like a punt? maybe on receiving 35-40yd line? would this reduce the high speed impacts?


That's basically the xfl rule. Watch a video on it if you haven't seen it. It's pretty good.
Little by little  
Gman11 : 5/23/2023 12:42 pm : link
they screw with the game until it's no longer watchable.
RE: Little by little  
Wildcardgiants : 5/23/2023 1:03 pm : link
In comment 16121814 Gman11 said:
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they screw with the game until it's no longer watchable.


I'm curious... which parts of the game that have recently changed do you feel are unwatchable?
RE: RE: Little by little  
Gman11 : 5/23/2023 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16121838 Wildcardgiants said:
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In comment 16121814 Gman11 said:


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they screw with the game until it's no longer watchable.



I'm curious... which parts of the game that have recently changed do you feel are unwatchable?


Let's start with roughing the passer. Then the incessant penalties that keep drives going when the defense makes a stop. Or, the long run/pass called back because of some ticky-tack penalty while obvious penalties (like those on Thibs?) get ignored. The endless commercials that draw out the game so that most games are now 3 1/2 hours for a 60 minute game. There are more, and there will be more in the future when the screw with the rules again.
Yea watching Ron Dixon  
OBJ_AllDay : 5/23/2023 1:37 pm : link
return kicks to the house in the playoffs wasn't fun at all... Lets just make it so nobody can return a kick now. Gotta love Goodell
RE: RE: i have had this random thought on it  
nyfootballfan : 5/23/2023 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16121776 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 16121775 nyfootballfan said:


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probably dumb but why not have teams line up tight to scrimmage line like a punt? maybe on receiving 35-40yd line? would this reduce the high speed impacts?



That's basically the xfl rule. Watch a video on it if you haven't seen it. It's pretty good.


thanks, cheers.
RE: Yea watching Ron Dixon  
RicFlair : 5/23/2023 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16121874 OBJ_AllDay said:
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return kicks to the house in the playoffs wasn't fun at all... Lets just make it so nobody can return a kick now. Gotta love Goodell



Which of these rules bars a player from returning a punt?
RE: Goodell is the worst  
bronxct1 : 5/23/2023 3:07 pm : link
In comment 16121718 SicilianGMEN said:
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No one is going to return kicks now unless they are shanked and picked up around the 15-20


That's the whole point of this rule. They're moving closer and closer to doing away with the kickoff. Kickoffs and punts are still the plays that account for the most injuries. They're just slowing making the play less and less important until they can just pull the plug on it without much uproar.
Remember Leon Bright from the 80s?  
MeanBunny : 5/23/2023 5:12 pm : link
Those days are long gone. He never did fair catch! From Canadian Football League days
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