NFT: Mets at Cubs. Game 1. Megill

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In comment 16122149 ZGiants98 said:

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that guy can really rake. he doesnt walk as much but at some point i need to look at his XBH/HR production age adjusted vs vientos. he's going to be behind on homers/walks but may be ahead on batting average and total xbh even if you dont consider steals.

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the Mets start working the pitchers in the first like they did a lot of last year

Smyly at 19 pitches already. Can be a great start to the series to get to the bullpen early

Notes.. one you will like and one probably not


-Was told there is a “feeling” the Mets still view Mauricio as a potential trade chip for SP help. This feeling is coming from other teams who have spoken to the Mets this season

-Rudick is viewed as legitimate prospect by the Mets (and externally). Breakout is viewed as legitimate. Not the next big thing (most likely) but not just a throwaway big start. One to watch.

Goodness. 11-10 @SyracuseMets. Arauz 2 homers, 5 rbi. They were down 9-0 after 2 #Mets

The original 5 will be back together in July and then they still have DP, Lucchesi and Megill. Vasil also maybe an option later in the season and Butto can spot start.

Of course, you never know what is going to happen with injuries but the depth at starter is significant.

Mets feel otherwise and have already spoken to other teams about SP. Butto’s FIP after today in AAA is now up over 5.00. He’s only in the rotation because they don’t have enough healthy arms to fill out the Syracuse rotation. They view him strictly as a RP going forward.

Would be completely brain dead IMO. I agree that SP shouldnt even be a need if we can stay relatively healthy from here on out.

What we likely need is a high leverage reliever or two but that shouldnt cost Mauricio.

Spoke to Teheran but he landed a major league deal. Let’s put it this way, Bundy 25 innings 12 homers allowed and he hasn’t been released. They are already fishing around for SPing of different values. Maybe Peterson will have a resurgence.

Also have internal concerns regarding Carrasco. His leash is shorter than you’d think of Peterson has 1-2 more decent starts…

Verlander, Scherzer, Senga, Quintana, and Megill/Lucchesi. Maybe Peterson figures it out in AAA and can become depth again also.

Carrasco is finished. Hopefully, he moves to the pen as the long man when Quintana returns.

Good news is 7 k’s 2 hits over 5, bad news is 4 walks. That’s now 28.2 innings with 42 k’s…22 walks.

Great job Megill. Not.

Guess is the hope to move Carrasco to more of a Trevor Williams role. The concern there is his persistent 1st inning issues. Can’t imagine they release him before trying him in that kind of role first though.

Isn’t a SP. even his last start… 8-9 hard hit balls. Ideally he too is in the bullpen where he can air it out. Megill reminds me of Gsellman where he had a brief run where he looked like a stud but that was fools gold

he can't fill innings and he has too many implosions. and we know there have been times when his stuff has played up. sign someone else, send him down and let him focus on becoming a late game reliever. hopefully peterson is ready once carrasco gets put out to pasture and maybe megill can play up in the pen quickly.

In comment 16122192 Eric on Li said:

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he can't fill innings and he has too many implosions. and we know there have been times when his stuff has played up. sign someone else, send him down and let him focus on becoming a late game reliever. hopefully peterson is ready once carrasco gets put out to pasture and maybe megill can play up in the pen quickly.

I’m sure they are snooping around. It’s not a coincidence that Teheran signed an mlb day the day after the Padres released him. Teams allow players to “negotiate” with other teams in these cases. I’m sure the Mets are on the hunt as we speak. El Paso is a terrible pitching environment so Teheran may well pitch well but the numbers were ugly. Good authority they did speak with him though .

Do you guys feel about Buck saying to Michael Kay he didn’t like Alonso saying “Fuck” in the interview? Many on twitter think that was wrong if Buck to do and should have spoken to Alonso privately

Crafty lefty on the mound.

Sanchez, Pham, and Escobar all starting with better players on the bench...

Ugh...

In comment 16122199 DanMetroMan said:

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Do you guys feel about Buck saying to Michael Kay he didn’t like Alonso saying “Fuck” in the interview? Many on twitter think that was wrong if Buck to do and should have spoken to Alonso privately

Kinda lame. Think the whole thing is overblown. Alonso was excited. Typically he'll just say LFGM or something and not actually pronounce it out.

Don’t personally care , just surprising amount of debate about it.

double now.

as a more dynamic core player on this team (both now and for the future) than Canha. Right now, Canha is pretty much still a starting player most days. Mauricio brings speed, power, and switch hitting ability to the lineup.

It's fine letting him hone his defense at 2B or whatever a little longer but he should be a part of this team at some point in 2023 IMO.

He's just performing too well in AAA to ignore. If he keeps this up I think he should be up by end of June at the latest.

Trade Pham and make Canha the 4th OF.

I actually like a bench of Canha, Vogey, Escobar, and Narvaez

Crushed that. 18

Get rid of him.

In comment 16122218 ZGiants98 said:

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Get rid of him.

He is fucking horrible.

Ugly ugly baseball.

Eppler, do your fucking job. Please find actual pro level pitchers that aren’t old and injury prone.

lol. Nice job guys.

Please cut Buck lose. He is horrible in handling young players. Get him out of there then bring up Mauricio

That's enough baseball for me today.

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Being a fucking DH, fatty.

taking out Vientos for a singles hitter when down 4 runs and have 2 runners on.

vientos is probably one of the best chances on the team to make it a 1 run game on 1 swing.

of course xxxl guillorme without the defense (vogelbach) does his best small ball impression flying out semi-hard at 96mph.

if its a 1 run game and you are putting up mcneil because a base hit ties it i get it. in this situation there was no reason for that switch when vogelbach has been the opposite of a run producer.

In comment 16122245 KevinBBWC said:

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taking out Vientos for a singles hitter when down 4 runs and have 2 runners on.

Everyone knew it was going to happen. Why keep Vientos out there when you can have the 300 lb ZERO up at bat? I would love Buck if he wasn’t so ignorant and stubborn.

So glad we wasted two lineup spots on these guys. Are we really wasting games to market these guys for trades? One of which we just signed for no reason at all? Benny Hill is running this team.

10th homer and 24th rbi in 43 games so he's roughly on a 35+ homer, 85+ rbi pace.

In comment 16122252 Eric on Li said:

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10th homer and 24th rbi in 43 games so he's roughly on a 35+ homer, 85+ rbi pace.

Would have been nice to have had him here over Canha. Almost the whole lineup is homegrown. Would have been cool for him to be a part of it.

he's played in 5 straight games. pretty amazing for a rookie.

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SANCHEZ

Mets brain trust on full display.

no need to play Sanchez, when Perez, Narvaez and Alvarez are better.

In comment 16122263 CooperDash said:

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Mets brain trust on full display.

Haha!

Is usually what Buck and Eppler answer when asked about young players and decisions.

Well there's a number of decisions and events in this game tonight where I don't know how you can honestly say that. Pinch hitting for Vientos and sitting Alvarez have in fact proved not to be "best for the team".

So why is it happening?

Simple moves.

unless you get a young, cost-controlled pitche. Besides Ohtani, next FA period has Flaherty, Giolito, Sonny Gray, Heaney (opt-out), Kershaw, Montgomery, Nola, Eduardo Rodriguez, Urias, Wood, etc.

Scherzer may not opt out.

Money off the books next year: Carrasco ($14 million; replace with Vasil), Canha ($10.5 million; replace with Mauricio); Escobar ($9.5 million; replace with Guillorme); Pham ($5 million; maybe replace with Rudick).

That right there is 4 players making a total of $39 million where you can get equal or better production from cost-controlled players.

That will almost pay for Ohtani. If Mets lose out on Ohtani, spend on FA pitching. Let's say Dodgers go for Ohtani. Spend on Urias. As Dan has mentioned a number of times, next year's FA is horrendous for hitters beyond Ohtani. Devers/Machado locked up. Pitching it's not bad.

Mets could still have Verlander, Scherzer, Senga, Urias, Quintana, Peterson, Megill, Vasil. If Scherzer opts out, replace him with a Nola or Giolito. Cheaper on a yearly basis and younger.

Bring in the homegrown hitters:

CF Nimmo
LF McNeil
SS Lindor
1B Alonso
3B Baty
C Alvarez
DH Vientos
2B Mauricio
RF Marte

bench: Narvaez, Guillorme, Rudick, Canha or Escobar on a cheaper re-sign

eventually you have Ramirez/Williams/Parada stepping in as McNeil and Marte age out.

In comment 16122244 CooperDash said:

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Being a fucking DH, fatty.

He's such a tease. He looks like Babe Ruth, but he hits more like Buddy Harrelson.

In comment 16122358 Dr. D said:

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In comment 16122244 CooperDash said: Quote: Being a fucking DH, fatty. He's such a tease. He looks like Babe Ruth, but he hits more like Buddy Harrelson.

That's not a knock on Buddy, who was scrappy and at least a contributor with his glove at SS.

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In comment 16122377 DanMetroMan said:

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They're listing Jett Williams as a CF ? I thought he was playing a lot of SS in the minors.

Most of the Met Pitching prospects are 2 years away. They have to fill that gap, and I shudder to think of Eppier making any more deadline deals this summer.

Is playing mostly SS this year but the feeling has always been his future position is probably CF or 2B

In comment 16122358 Dr. D said:

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In comment 16122244 CooperDash said: Quote: Being a fucking DH, fatty. He's such a tease. He looks like Babe Ruth, but he hits more like Buddy Harrelson.

...Don't insult Buddy Harrelson!

In comment 16122383 Named Later said:

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In comment 16122377 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Top 37 prospects Link - ( New Window ) They're listing Jett Williams as a CF ? I thought he was playing a lot of SS in the minors. Most of the Met Pitching prospects are 2 years away. They have to fill that gap, and I shudder to think of Eppier making any more deadline deals this summer.

Other GMs LOOOVE Eppler though! lol

In comment 16122377 DanMetroMan said:

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that was a good list other than the rudick omission probably.

fangraphs has 118 prospects graded 50+ and the mets 7 are tied with Cincy for most in MLB. they also have mets farm 4th most valuable 1 spot ahead of tampa. graduations are going to pummel it over the next year but if they can transition these kids into a successful 1/3 of the lineup not much will matter.

Mendick 1-4, BB, K
Mauricio 2-5, 2b, error, CS
Guillorme 1-3, 2 BB
Cortes 3-5, HR
Butto 1.2 innings 6 hits 7 runs 2 walks 2 k's (yuck)
Walker .2 innings 2 hits 2 runs 2 walks 1 K

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Rudick 3-4, HR, 2B, SB, K (Has more homers over his first 35 games this season than he did over his entire college career 176 games (5)
Peroza 1-2, 2 BB
Santos 5.2 innings 8 hits 6 runs 6 walks 4 k's (Big kid, throws hard, not a SPer)

A+
Tidwell 5.0 innings 2 hits 2 runs 4 walks 7 k's (42 k's 22 walks over 28.1 innings)
Gervase 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 3 k's (Wild line... 17.1 innings 9 hits 16 walks 26 k's)
Ramirez 1-5, 2b, K
Lugo 2-5 (slow start)
Consuegra 0-3, BB, 2 k's (Huge April, struggling in May .617 OPS)
Palmer 2-4, HR, K

St. Lucie
Jett 1-4, K
Thomas 3-4
Reimer 0-3, BB, 2 k's
Tilien 0-4
Nido (rehab) 1-4 (2/2 throwing out runners)
De La Cruz 6 innings 7 hits 2 runs 1 walk 7 k's
Ankeney 1 perfect, 1 K (0 ER allowed over 8 innings, 14 k's, personal sleeper)

seems to agree with whoever spoke to the writer who said the Mets are high on Rudick


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Nifty skill set, dunno if he’ll do enough damage to be a long term regular

In comment 16122377 DanMetroMan said:

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Some of these ETAs are a bit silly. Parada 2026? Jett 2028? Vasil 2025? Tidwell 2026?

In comment 16122408 DanMetroMan said:

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seems to agree with whoever spoke to the writer who said the Mets are high on Rudick Jarrett Seidler @jaseidler · 14h Replying to @teddstalks Nifty skill set, dunno if he’ll do enough damage to be a long term regular

Rudick is likely not to be a long term starter on a team like the Mets, I can agree. But he looks like he could possibly be quite a 4th OF, which is quite valuable.

clarify, Sielder's comment is about Rudick's profile as a big league regular, not specific to the Mets. It's still a positive blurb for a guy FG's oddly completely omitted. The Mets do not have 37 prospects better than Matt Rudick. Very rough list but I'd have him in the 15-20 range

In comment 16122418 DanMetroMan said:

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clarify, Sielder's comment is about Rudick's profile as a big league regular, not specific to the Mets. It's still a positive blurb for a guy FG's oddly completely omitted. The Mets do not have 37 prospects better than Matt Rudick. Very rough list but I'd have him in the 15-20 range

Seidler

they are basically paying 2 of them like 18m combined (plus a ton of tax) this year between canha/pham.

and Lugo were the two clear omissions for me.

An A-Bomb for A-Ram, Alex Ramirez with a solo shot. That's his 3rd HR on the year. Power hasn't been there so far in 2023, but that's his second homer since 5/16 #Mets

Jett the Met (CF) with a 1st inning walk and steal (his 11th). Williams now has 26 walks over his first 96 ab's #Mets

4 scoreless for Cameron Foster. That's 15 scoreless innings over his last 3 starts #Mets

back in the lineup hitting 9th, Vientos back on the bench.

In comment 16122634 DanMetroMan said:

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back in the lineup hitting 9th, Vientos back on the bench.

buck seems intent on 2 of them playing together in a merry go round but rarely all 3 at once.

In comment 16122655 Eric on Li said:

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In comment 16122634 DanMetroMan said: Quote: back in the lineup hitting 9th, Vientos back on the bench. buck seems intent on 2 of them playing together in a merry go round but rarely all 3 at once.

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Not sure why the #Mets called up Mark Vientos to not prioritize playing him daily.

In minors this year
- 13 HR
- .333 BA
- 1.104 OPS

vs RHP in minors this year
- 11 HR
- .327 BA
- 1.105 OPS

Guess when you can get Vogelbach and his .721 OPS in there vs RHP you make it happen.

In comment 16122656 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16122655 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 16122634 DanMetroMan said: Quote: back in the lineup hitting 9th, Vientos back on the bench. buck seems intent on 2 of them playing together in a merry go round but rarely all 3 at once. Mike Kurland @Mike_Kurland · 1h Not sure why the #Mets called up Mark Vientos to not prioritize playing him daily. In minors this year - 13 HR - .333 BA - 1.104 OPS vs RHP in minors this year - 11 HR - .327 BA - 1.105 OPS Guess when you can get Vogelbach and his .721 OPS in there vs RHP you make it happen.

this has been my biggest gripe in terms of not calling up vientos earlier. vogelbach is on pace for like 6 homers now. he is a 300 pound version of guillorme, except he cant hit lefties at all and with no defense.

i respect his ability to get on base but if he isnt doing damage he is simply nowhere near an everyday player.

morel and vientos were doing in the minors?

1 easy way to break up morel's homer streak would have been to bench him the day after he hit his homers.

In comment 16122659 Eric on Li said:

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morel and vientos were doing in the minors? 1 easy way to break up morel's homer streak would have been to bench him the day after he hit his homers.

it makes absolutely no sense. Vogelbach is slugging .377 vs. RHP this season. He's not some "proven" above average MLB masher, he's with his 7th organization for a reason. I've been mildly defensive of him (as a bench bat, quality AB late in a game ala Lenny Harris) but this is ridiculous. Morel was scorching hot, called up and is playing every day. We all remember what Mike Jacobs did, why not see what the kid can do? This isn't like suggesting benching a guy like Marte... it's Vogelbach!

10 days ago there were 2 players ahead of Vientos in terms of wRC+ in the IL... Christopher Morel (who is now setting records with the Cubs) and Matt McLain (.857 OPS first 7 games)... both are playing every day... or close to it...#Mets

In comment 16122661 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16122659 Eric on Li said: Quote: morel and vientos were doing in the minors? 1 easy way to break up morel's homer streak would have been to bench him the day after he hit his homers. it makes absolutely no sense. Vogelbach is slugging .377 vs. RHP this season. He's not some "proven" above average MLB masher, he's with his 7th organization for a reason. I've been mildly defensive of him (as a bench bat, quality AB late in a game ala Lenny Harris) but this is ridiculous. Morel was scorching hot, called up and is playing every day. We all remember what Mike Jacobs did, why not see what the kid can do? This isn't like suggesting benching a guy like Marte... it's Vogelbach!

his may numbers are even worse so the trend is going backwards.

in 18 games / 54 plate appearances in May:

.200 / .333 / .311
(644 ops / 87 rc)

he has 2 doubles, 1 homer, and 4 rbis.

his only positive number is 9 walks (to go along with 9 total hits). that's it.

vientos, escobar, baty, alvarez all deserve playing time more than vogelsnack. even canha has almost twice as many xbh in roughly the same playing time. pham has been better this month. all of them bring more versatility since they can play defense.

i get since his only value is the bat he cant rebuild any value without at bats, but he doesnt need starts and he certainly doesnt need to be subbed in for vientos right now.

correct myself, 5th organization. Was going by memory and was obviously wrong. 5th.

In comment 16122671 DanMetroMan said:

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correct myself, 5th organization. Was going by memory and was obviously wrong. 5th.

doesnt really matter, he should have stayed at organization #4 and we'd still have holderman.

for all the issues with the lack of vientos at bats now he was over a 900 ops in AAA a year ago. think about how many at bats have been wasted between then and now on trash. and how many prospects were given up for ruf, vogey, naquin when they could have just kept jdd (who even had an option remaining i think).

even if all those prospects stink, they at least could have been traded for other things at the deadline.

In comment 16122656 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16122655 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 16122634 DanMetroMan said: Mike Kurland @Mike_Kurland · 1h Not sure why the #Mets called up Mark Vientos to not prioritize playing him daily. In minors this year - 13 HR - .333 BA - 1.104 OPS vs RHP in minors this year - 11 HR - .327 BA - 1.105 OPS Guess when you can get Vogelbach and his .721 OPS in there vs RHP you make it happen.

Damn you Buck. You stubborn SOB. Are you trying to piss fans off ??

know absolutely nothing about projecting swing mechanics but visually this is a beautiful swing, what a bomb. Projected early 2nd round pick (Chase Davis)
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