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NGT- Judge cause of Patriots OTA violation

Chiefgiant : 5/25/2023 4:29 pm
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No doubt  
mfsd : 5/25/2023 4:36 pm : link
Gettleman's fault again
LMAO  
SteelGiant : 5/25/2023 4:39 pm : link
Classic Judge
LMAO  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/25/2023 4:49 pm : link
Not surprised at all in any way shape or form. That guy was a total waste.
If you really want to bother Belichick...  
JohnG in Albany : 5/25/2023 4:54 pm : link
Instead of pulling an OTA session, make him have all of them open to the press. *grin*
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MOOPS : 5/25/2023 5:16 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2023 6:49 pm : link
The $ considerations aside-I still think we're sending Joe checks-I don't get BB keeping this dude on the staff. Judge & Patricia did their best to ruin Mac Jones last fall. @ least Patricia is gone, but Judge remains? I don't get it. And I get that BB & Joe are friends, but still...

Then again, BB might be in the 'F it. I' the GOAT & I just wanna coach & BS with my sons & friends' mode.
Maybe he tried  
k2tampa : 5/25/2023 6:52 pm : link
Coughlin's rule of making them show up five minutes early.
Come on down Judge  
ghost718 : 5/25/2023 7:05 pm : link
Let me tell you how it went

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sb from NYT Forum : 5/25/2023 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16123279 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The $ considerations aside-I still think we're sending Joe checks-I don't get BB keeping this dude on the staff. Judge & Patricia did their best to ruin Mac Jones last fall. @ least Patricia is gone, but Judge remains? I don't get it. And I get that BB & Joe are friends, but still...

Then again, BB might be in the 'F it. I' the GOAT & I just wanna coach & BS with my sons & friends' mode.


Wasn’t there a report that BB gets a budget for the coaching staff, including himself, and by having guys on his staff that are still being paid by other teams he can keep more of the budget for himself?
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Sean : 5/25/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16123279 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The $ considerations aside-I still think we're sending Joe checks-I don't get BB keeping this dude on the staff. Judge & Patricia did their best to ruin Mac Jones last fall. @ least Patricia is gone, but Judge remains? I don't get it. And I get that BB & Joe are friends, but still...

Then again, BB might be in the 'F it. I' the GOAT & I just wanna coach & BS with my sons & friends' mode.

Judge gets paid for another two seasons, anything the Pats pay him is offset so I’m sure they are paying him nothing. Shurmur is finally off the books. I don’t think it was a coincidence that McAdoo got back into coaching once he was off the books.
sb from NYT Forum...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2023 7:38 pm : link
Perhaps.

I think a hugely underrated story going into this NFL season is what happens if the Pats go something like 6-11. Kraft has been very vocal publicly about his displeasure with the Patriots recent run of late. Throw in them giving Mayo some serious coin to stay in New England/some puff pieces about Mayo in The Athletic & Globe that I presume were Kraft associates leaked...

I wouldn't be surprised if BB is chasing Shula's all time wins record elsewhere if the Pats season goes south.
Sean.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2023 7:39 pm : link
I shoulda know Ben's tenure was going sideways when he showed up with the slick hair like Riles, Haha.
I would imagine he is doing what he is told up there.  
St. Jimmy : 5/25/2023 8:47 pm : link
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RE: ...  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/26/2023 8:19 am : link
In comment 16123279 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The $ considerations aside-I still think we're sending Joe checks-I don't get BB keeping this dude on the staff. Judge & Patricia did their best to ruin Mac Jones last fall. @ least Patricia is gone, but Judge remains? I don't get it. And I get that BB & Joe are friends, but still...

Then again, BB might be in the 'F it. I' the GOAT & I just wanna coach & BS with my sons & friends' mode.

Maybe he's just taking some of Judge's money off of Mara's plate via offset. It's the least he could do after recommending Judge in the first place and then following that up with the Brian Flores debacle.
How bad do you have to be at planning  
Mike from Ohio : 5/26/2023 8:52 am : link
and management when you know you can't keep the players more than 4 hours, but you can't get done in that time?

Part of being a coach is being organized and disciplined and it is pretty clear Joe Judge is neither of those things.
RE: No doubt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2023 9:05 am : link
In comment 16123238 mfsd said:
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Gettleman's fault again


Weird response. Especially since he was involved in the hiring process. Same with the previous failed head coach.
RE: RE: No doubt  
mfsd : 5/26/2023 9:18 am : link
In comment 16123488 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16123238 mfsd said:


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Gettleman's fault again



Weird response. Especially since he was involved in the hiring process. Same with the previous failed head coach.


Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part, after Ebner's recent comment about DG screwing up Judge.

IMO they both sucked
Ah yes  
HomerJones45 : 5/26/2023 9:37 am : link
remember those golden days when Judge got here and after his first season when you were all in love.
RE: Ah yes  
Big Blue '56 : 5/26/2023 9:40 am : link
In comment 16123508 HomerJones45 said:
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remember those golden days when Judge got here and after his first season when you were all in love.


Yeah, I was one of them. Prodigious mistake..😎
mfsd  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2023 9:57 am : link
Gotcha.

The funny thing is  
an_idol_mind : 5/26/2023 10:15 am : link
that when he was here, he didn't use all the OTAs available to him.
RE: The funny thing is  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2023 10:17 am : link
In comment 16123533 an_idol_mind said:
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that when he was here, he didn't use all the OTAs available to him.


That was the first time I started to wonder about him.
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Sean : 5/26/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16123537 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16123533 an_idol_mind said:


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that when he was here, he didn't use all the OTAs available to him.



That was the first time I started to wonder about him.

Eric, I do remember you calling that out early while the board was still giddy over him. “Imagine Parcells doing this?”
Sean  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2023 10:40 am : link
Not to dogpile, but Joe Judge comes across to me as a used car salesman. He was great at selling himself. But he was a lemon.
RE: RE: The funny thing is  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/26/2023 10:40 am : link
In comment 16123537 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16123533 an_idol_mind said:


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that when he was here, he didn't use all the OTAs available to him.



That was the first time I started to wonder about him.


This, then a coaching staff with almost no NFL experience, then not playing any starters in the preseason...
"I don't care if we are over four hours....  
sec308 : 5/26/2023 11:44 am : link
Start running those hills!"
I started to  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/26/2023 12:14 pm : link
sour on Judge after the 2nd game of his second season against WFT. Thursday night game on the road and he went conservative in the 4th playing for the FG. WFT then went right down the field as they did the drive prior.

Losing both Gates and Lenieux was a killer so early in the season and impacted things significantly and AT then hurt is ankle/foot which caused him to miss 3-4 games and he was never right all season imv.

RE: sb from NYT Forum...  
JohnF : 5/27/2023 12:21 pm : link
In comment 16123309 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I wouldn't be surprised if BB is chasing Shula's all time wins record elsewhere if the Pats season goes south.


Belichick won't be unemployed long if that happens. It would be funny if he ends up in Cleveland (I could see that franchise going south this year), though. Dallas is another possibility if McCarthy gets an early playoff bounce this year (Jerry Jones would LOVE the publicity with BB as his head coach!)
And to think  
Anakim : 5/27/2023 2:38 pm : link
This dipshit could’ve been our HC last year of John Mara reportedly had his way. We would’ve likely missed out on Dabes and Schoen would’ve been saddled by Coach Clueless.
Anak.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2023 2:45 pm : link
Mara wanted to keep JJ & promote Abrams to GM. Good Lord. Mara strikes me a good man & he loves the team, but his football IQ...it leaves a lot to be desired, much like his old man.
RE: And to think  
Sean : 5/27/2023 5:55 pm : link
In comment 16124128 Anakim said:
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This dipshit could’ve been our HC last year of John Mara reportedly had his way. We would’ve likely missed out on Dabes and Schoen would’ve been saddled by Coach Clueless.

Schoen wouldn’t have taken the job. He had options.
Agree with Sean.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2023 6:03 pm : link
Joe ain't taking the gig if JJ was forced upon him.
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