BBV OTA report

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FYI... the preseason details have been posted since yesterday at the top of the Forum.

This report did have a much more detailed listing of who did not practice:

Not spotted at practice
Wan’Dale Robinson, Jason Pinnock, Aaron Robinson, Trenton Thompson, Nick McCloud, Marcus McKethan, Makai Polk, A’Shawn Robinson, Elerson Smith, Dexter Lawrence, D.J. Davidson and Leonard Williams were not seen on the field.

Some of those absences were likely injury-related as Wan’Dale and Aaron Robinson, McKethan and Davidson are all returning from season-ending injuries.

Linebacker Darrian Beavers was on the field but did not participate in team periods. Beavers spent last season on IR with a torn ACL.

this report is at least partially incorrect as Wan'Dale Robinson was there and running on the side according to two other reporters.

Pat Traina said he was there, but he was working out on the side. She was told he had off-season surgery, which she guessed was on his shoulder, but couldn't confirm. Speculation was Pinnock had off-season surgery, too, but that's all it was...speculation.

In comment 16123449 Klaatu said:

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Pat Traina said he was there, but he was working out on the side. She was told he had off-season surgery, which she guessed was on his shoulder, but couldn't confirm. Speculation was Pinnock had off-season surgery, too, but that's all it was...speculation.

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absentee list explains some things like Bobby McClain starting at safety yesterday as well as Amani Oruwariye at CB.

This is what I put on the front page now:

INJURIES AND ABSENTEES…
Not spotted at were RB Saquon Barkley (unsigned Franchise player), WR Makai Polk, OG Marcus McKethan (recovering from knee surgery?), DL Leonard Williams, DL Dexter Lawrence, DL A’Shawn Robinson, DL D.J. Davidson (recovering from knee surgery?), OLB Elerson Smith (recovering from foot surgery?), CB Nick McCloud, CB Aaron Robinson (recovering from knee surgery?), Jason Pinnock, and Trenton Thompson.

ILB Darrian Beavers (recovering from knee surgery) and S Dane Belton (recovering from unspecified offseason surgery) worked on the side.

Don't know if they'll show up before the mandatory mini-camp. It doesn't appear that A'Shawn Robinson is in NJ.

In comment 16123448 Eric from BBI said:

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this report is at least partially incorrect as Wan'Dale Robinson was there and running on the side according to two other reporters.

Pictures of Wan'Dale catching passes yesterday were posted on the Giants website!

Yup, you're right...

Wan’Dale Robinson, Sterling Shepard, Makai Polk, Tyre Phillips, Marcus McKethan, Elerson Smith, Darrian Beavers, Aaron Robinson, Jason Pinnock, Dane Belton and Trenton Thompson worked on the side.

They listed Elerson Smith's injury as "achilles"

Ezeudu and Lemieux were participating in practice

In comment 16123472 KarenP said:

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Wan’Dale Robinson, Sterling Shepard, Makai Polk, Tyre Phillips, Marcus McKethan, Elerson Smith, Darrian Beavers, Aaron Robinson, Jason Pinnock, Dane Belton and Trenton Thompson worked on the side. They listed Elerson Smith's injury as "achilles"

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Two reporters said Sterling Shepard was in some 7-on-7 drills.

Also, the Giants placed Elerson Smith on Injured Reserve in mid-December 2022 due to bone spurs near his Achilles’ that required surgery.

INJURIES AND ABSENTEES...
Not spotted at were RB Saquon Barkley (unsigned Franchise player), DL Leonard Williams, DL Dexter Lawrence, DL A’Shawn Robinson, DL D.J. Davidson (recovering from knee surgery), and CB Nick McCloud.

WR Wan’Dale Robinson (recovering from knee surgery), WR Makai Polk, OT Tyre Phillips, OG Marcus McKethan (recovering from knee surgery), ILB Darrian Beavers (recovering from knee surgery), OLB Elerson Smith (recovering from foot surgery), CB Aaron Robinson (recovering from knee surgery), S Dane Belton (recovering from unspecified offseason surgery), S Jason Pinnock, and S Trenton Thompson.worked on the side.

In comment 16123477 KarenP said:

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Ezeudu and Lemieux were participating in practice

Pat Traina said that Lemieux was playing Center with OL2. She didn't mention Ezeudu, but my guess is he was lining up at LG.

In comment 16123486 Klaatu said:

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In comment 16123477 KarenP said: Quote: Ezeudu and Lemieux were participating in practice Pat Traina said that Lemieux was playing Center with OL2. She didn't mention Ezeudu, but my guess is he was lining up at LG.

Lemieux being the #2 center is interesting. Where did Patti say that?

In comment 16123487 Eric from BBI said:

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In comment 16123486 Klaatu said: Quote: In comment 16123477 KarenP said: Quote: Ezeudu and Lemieux were participating in practice Pat Traina said that Lemieux was playing Center with OL2. She didn't mention Ezeudu, but my guess is he was lining up at LG. Lemieux being the #2 center is interesting. Where did Patti say that?

I linked to her podcast in the Big Blue Banter thread.

Dunleavy mentioned torn Achilles for Elerson Smith too, but looking back at the December stories, they say bone spurs near the Achilles.

Not sure what the real injury is on him.

"Season over following IR placement Smith (Achilles) is slated to miss the rest of the 2022-23 season after being placed on injured reserve, Dan Duggan of The Athletic reports. Impact Smith is now set to receive season-ending surgery next week on a nagging bone spur by his Achilles/heel."

says Vernon Butler was also absent... most of DLs seem to have been absent.

is an enlargement of the bony section (calcaneous) of the heel where the achilles tendon is inserted, causing irritation and pain in the tendon. Can be treated with steroids or surgically by shaving/cutting of the bony enlargement, with minimal effect on the tendon itself, but recovery is still a months long process. Could be what is being called a bone 'spur'.

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is an enlargement of the bony section (calcaneous) of the heel where the achilles tendon is inserted, causing irritation and pain in the tendon. Can be treated with steroids or surgically by shaving/cutting of the bony enlargement, with minimal effect on the tendon itself, but recovery is still a months long process. Could be what is being called a bone 'spur'.

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I don't think he "tore" his Achilles based on the December reports. I think reporters are remembering Achilles and just assuming it was a tear.

In comment 16123541 ColHowPepper said:

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is an enlargement of the bony section (calcaneous) of the heel where the achilles tendon is inserted, causing irritation and pain in the tendon. Can be treated with steroids or surgically by shaving/cutting of the bony enlargement, with minimal effect on the tendon itself, but recovery is still a months long process. Could be what is being called a bone 'spur'.

Isn’t that similiar to what Y Cespedes had in both feet on Mets towards his end?

In comment 16123617 Payasdaddy said:

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In comment 16123541 ColHowPepper said: Quote: is an enlargement of the bony section (calcaneous) of the heel where the achilles tendon is inserted, causing irritation and pain in the tendon. Can be treated with steroids or surgically by shaving/cutting of the bony enlargement, with minimal effect on the tendon itself, but recovery is still a months long process. Could be what is being called a bone 'spur'. Isn’t that similiar to what Y Cespedes had in both feet on Mets towards his end?

I had a ridiculous amount of calcium intertwined in my thigh bone from my first hip replacement. Shit gave me more annoyance than damn replacement failing
Surgeon said most of his time was deal with that during revision

Luckily, thigh is a lot easier to heal from than Achilles so I was getting around right away.

is a good thing. It's only May. Has to bode well for October or even September. Not all knee injuries are created equal.