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DeAndre Hopkins released

bigblue12 : 5/26/2023 1:05 pm
I don't think we will have interest, but interesting nonetheless
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We should have some interest  
Payasdaddy : 5/26/2023 1:08 pm : link
And we can make $$$ line up if needed
Interesting timing  
Rjanyg : 5/26/2023 1:08 pm : link
You would think they could get a late round pick for him.
Wow.... so nobody wanted to trade for him.  
DefenseWins : 5/26/2023 1:08 pm : link
what happens with his contract if someone else wants to pick him up?
BBI salary cap experts  
fish3321 : 5/26/2023 1:08 pm : link
can someone chime in if this dream is possible?
Wow wasn’t expecting that  
No1MDGiantsFan : 5/26/2023 1:10 pm : link
I expect to have some interest but he will probably get a lot more than we can afford
lions and panthers would make a lot of sense  
Eric on Li : 5/26/2023 1:10 pm : link
they can offer him 1 year/10m+ incentive type deals in the range of OBJ.

he'd claimed he was looking for a team with stable management and a good defense and implied a QB who takes things seriously. a lot of targets from bryce young and jared goff available.

giants or ravens would have made sense pre-waller/obj deals but not sure the $ is there any more.
RE: BBI salary cap experts  
Payasdaddy : 5/26/2023 1:11 pm : link
In comment 16123680 fish3321 said:
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can someone chime in if this dream is possible?

No expert, but extending Leo or adoree can make it happen
Obviously, saquon extension too
They can even do something with DJ money
Gotta at least toss around idea


RE: BBI salary cap experts  
Eric on Li : 5/26/2023 1:13 pm : link
In comment 16123680 fish3321 said:
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can someone chime in if this dream is possible?


anything is possible, they'd just have to get really creative. i dont really see it bc they have already committed targets to campbell, slayton, waller but i guess you never know. hodgins was their best WR last year so he will probably also be in mix. just drafted hyatt. shepard and robinson are already on the field in otas.
He would hinder Hyatt's development  
gtt350 : 5/26/2023 1:16 pm : link
or at least playing time
or he would serve as a 1 year mentor for Hyatt  
fish3321 : 5/26/2023 1:16 pm : link
hmmmmm
If Schoen is willing to push major Leo/Adoree dollars into next year  
BillT : 5/26/2023 1:17 pm : link
Then they can make the dollars work. I don’t think he wants to do that but what do I know.
No one wanted the rest of that contract  
larryflower37 : 5/26/2023 1:17 pm : link
Will be interesting to see what gets on the open market.
1 year 8 to 10 million with incentives
I don’t think the Giants are going to be in on this  
Ben in Tampa : 5/26/2023 1:17 pm : link
but they should definitely make a call
Just hope he stays out of the division  
DaveInTampa : 5/26/2023 1:17 pm : link
Imagine the Eagles running 3 WR sets with Brown, Smith, and DHop
Bills, Chiefs, Ravens  
fish3321 : 5/26/2023 1:18 pm : link
I'd think would have interest.

Legit contenders would could benefit from a 1 year contract

Leo's cap hit is 32.2 million  
Vanzetti : 5/26/2023 1:19 pm : link
14.2 of that is "dead," meaning there is no way to reduce or eliminate it.

But he is due 18 million in salary, most of which could easily be restructured as bonus.


So, really money is no obstacle, as long as you are OK with kicking the can down the road.

I would do it because Hopkins potentially makes this skill group one of the best in the league. And you would really find out about DJ.
well this is interesting  
djm : 5/26/2023 1:19 pm : link
..

This is why I would have given up a fifth  
sec308 : 5/26/2023 1:19 pm : link
and I heard he is willing to renegotiate.
I really wish we didn't re-sign Slayton.  
Anakim : 5/26/2023 1:22 pm : link
Sorry. Shep is also a waste, but it's the vet min. Not a huge deal.
Sure hope they explore this, as unlikely as it seems.  
bceagle05 : 5/26/2023 1:24 pm : link
Not everyone on your roster needs to be 25 years old. Hopkins, Waller and Saquon would be glorious. Throw in Hyatt’s speed + Jones’ mobility + great depth (Campbell/Robinson/Hodgins/Bellinger/Shep/rookie RB) - fun to think about.
Forgot Slayton too.  
bceagle05 : 5/26/2023 1:25 pm : link
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They can sign him, but it'll come at a price.  
Optimus-NY : 5/26/2023 1:29 pm : link
Personally, I wouldn't want to risk not being able to re-sign/extend Thomas and McKinney, oe even Barkley for that matter. The most prudent move would be to get your WR in the draft next season unless Hopkins is willing to take less.
RE: This is why I would have given up a fifth  
Vanzetti : 5/26/2023 1:29 pm : link
In comment 16123702 sec308 said:
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and I heard he is willing to renegotiate.


But then the Giants would have taken on his contract

Right now, he is a free agent and can sign for whatever
Slayton's contract will in no way hinder  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/26/2023 1:30 pm : link
Hopkins if they wanted to sign him. At this point Hopkins has are his millions and wants to go win somewhere. And Probably at a discount he won't offer the Giants.

If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?
Doubt  
jc in c-ville : 5/26/2023 1:31 pm : link
They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.
Just waiting for the eagles to sign him  
Essex : 5/26/2023 1:42 pm : link
And we all left asking how?
RE: Slayton's contract will in no way hinder  
Anakim : 5/26/2023 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16123712 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Hopkins if they wanted to sign him. At this point Hopkins has are his millions and wants to go win somewhere. And Probably at a discount he won't offer the Giants.

If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?


We signed Slayton to 8/9M per. You don't think we could've used that money in better ways? We have Hodgins, who is our tall, jump-ball guy and we have Wan'Dale who is our shifty guy out of the slot. But since then, we added some more speedsters/HR threats in Parris Campell, Jamison Crowder, Jalin Hyatt, Jeff Smith and Bryce Ford-Wheaton. Slayton is redundant. Of course, we didn't know it at the time, but me thinks that if Schoen had an opportunity to do it over again, he would have used that Slayton money to address another position or two.

Like we did last year? We made it to the second round...


I don't think we should sign Hopkins, but that Slayton deal still sticks in my craw. Not a HUGE deal and there are certainly worse deals and players out there, but it just wasn't necessary. Same with Shepard, but at least Shepard's deal was a vet min. so he can easily be cut.
I think that ship has sailed  
AcesUp : 5/26/2023 1:45 pm : link
We piecemealed our WR1 with Waller, Slayton, Campbell and Hyatt. They could fit him if they want but it's probably smarter to start shuffling the cap in the event of an injury. I'd rather break glass for a vet in the event of an injury to Edge, OT or Corner than splurge on Hopkins before we can see what some of these other investments have to offer.
He knows this is his last chance to win a championship  
fanatic II : 5/26/2023 1:46 pm : link
Will probably go to a SB contender at a discounted rate.

I think he goes to KC. The perfect setup for him to succeed.

If you look at the other contenders they all have #1s and many have #2s. KC just has Kelce. Hopkins would take over the Tyreek Hill role.

If he goes to KC Hopkins will put up monster numbers. Moves up to the top of the 2nd round in fantasy.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2023 1:46 pm : link
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Text from one source on what to watch for Hopkins: "Bills"

Obviously one of Hopkins' many options here. Fantastic player.
The only way I would  
thevett : 5/26/2023 1:48 pm : link
Sign him would be to keep him away from other NFC East teams. Even then probably not !!
RE: Doubt  
BleedBlue : 5/26/2023 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16123715 jc in c-ville said:
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They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.



We are going to be “not a wr away” forever here on bbi

The giants don’t think this way, in fact they think we are closer than most…that’s why it was quality over quantity in drsft and you saw us moving up.

Giants should absolutely make a phone call….

Waller
Barkley
Hopkins
Hyatt
Hodgins
Robinson
Campbell
Slayton

That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS

It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old
Bills make a ton of sense  
AcesUp : 5/26/2023 1:49 pm : link
They're in an arms race in a loaded AFC, probably lagging behind a couple of teams too. They've got a window to attack now.
RE: Bills make a ton of sense  
BleedBlue : 5/26/2023 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16123736 AcesUp said:
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They're in an arms race in a loaded AFC, probably lagging behind a couple of teams too. They've got a window to attack now.


I agree

I expect bills or KC but giants should make a call for sure
Schefter tweet  
RCPhoenix : 5/26/2023 1:52 pm : link
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
ESPN Senior NFL Insider.

@AdamSchefter

On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert.
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While it would suck to eat cap  
HBart : 5/26/2023 1:53 pm : link
The same season as signing someone, cutting Slayton post June 1 should only be about $2MM in 2023 dead money. Not ideal, but not enough to dissuade signing Hopkins if they want him.

I think we're better off standing pat.
not like Schoen to make a move like that  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/26/2023 2:01 pm : link
I do not see this happening
Bills drafted Kincaid and Torrance at OG  
Payasdaddy : 5/26/2023 2:04 pm : link
Hopkins would make offense sickening
Josh Allen has to tone down hero ball a bit near red zone. Not a ton but sometimes tries to do too much.
2024  
Payasdaddy : 5/26/2023 2:07 pm : link
Is probably when gmen go for wr1 ( Hopkins more a wr2 at this point)
But still need to consider him now

I am fine with a bunch of good , not great wrs
We aren’t there yet but we can probably find another good one in draft next yr too
RE: Wow.... so nobody wanted to trade for him.  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/26/2023 2:10 pm : link
In comment 16123679 DefenseWins said:
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what happens with his contract if someone else wants to pick him up?


bbi was wrong? What a shock.
RE: RE: Doubt  
joeinpa : 5/26/2023 2:11 pm : link
In comment 16123734 BleedBlue said:
[quote] In comment 16123715 jc in c-ville said:


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They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.




We are going to be “not a wr away” forever here on bbi

The giants don’t think this way, in fact they think we are closer than most…that’s why it was quality over quantity in drsft and you saw us moving up.

Giants should absolutely make a phone call….

Waller
Barkley
Hopkins
Hyatt
Hodgins
Robinson
Campbell
Slayton

That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS

It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old [/

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Money is no issue  
Thegratefulhead : 5/26/2023 2:11 pm : link
If they want him, they can compete financially with anyone. People don't understand that they can push the money into forever, forever. They can do it for as long as they want.

Let that sink.

Smart teams, willing to spend, don't have a salary.

We could do it too.

RE: Schefter tweet  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/26/2023 2:12 pm : link
In comment 16123740 RCPhoenix said:
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
ESPN Senior NFL Insider.

@AdamSchefter

On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert. Link - ( New Window )


Would have been interesting if he added the Cleveland Groper to that list.
Feeling around the league  
ajr2456 : 5/26/2023 2:19 pm : link
Is he’s the Ravens to lose.
Bills would be fun as a football fan  
Heisenberg : 5/26/2023 2:20 pm : link
I think that match would make sense. Would provide a dimension to that offense they dont have.

Please god, not the fucking Eagles or Dallas.

Would love him here but fit seems really unlikely.
Quite a few folks here  
Sammo85 : 5/26/2023 2:21 pm : link
were thinking of giving up our late 1st or 2nd rounder "plus" some goodies on top.

I guess Bills/KC are at top of list.
Giants will be interested  
mittenedman : 5/26/2023 2:26 pm : link
and they should be.
"we're not one player away"  
djm : 5/26/2023 2:26 pm : link
has to be the most annoying take in NYG BBI history.

Glad the Giants didn't think this way when they traded for Rob Carpenter, mid season, at which point they were around 500.

PS, Rob Carpenter never even won a super bowl here with NYG. Was that still a bad trade?
RE: Doubt  
Stu11 : 5/26/2023 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16123715 jc in c-ville said:
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They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.

W
"We're not one player away" is such a tired take that's regurgitated here endlessly. You're never one player away. You constantly try and improve. Just curious did you think the Bengals were one player away from the SB 2 years ago? You never know how things are gonna break injury/breaks wise. Young players may develop faster than you think who knows ? It's a year to year league. You constantly try and improve your team when possible. We made the division round of the playoffs last year. Who saw that coming?
RE: Wow.... so nobody wanted to trade for him.  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/26/2023 2:27 pm : link
In comment 16123679 DefenseWins said:
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what happens with his contract if someone else wants to pick him up?

The remaining money on his contract was non-guaranteed, so it's vapor now - there wouldn't be any offset language attached to non-guaranteed salary.
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