they can offer him 1 year/10m+ incentive type deals in the range of OBJ.
he'd claimed he was looking for a team with stable management and a good defense and implied a QB who takes things seriously. a lot of targets from bryce young and jared goff available.
giants or ravens would have made sense pre-waller/obj deals but not sure the $ is there any more.
No expert, but extending Leo or adoree can make it happen
Obviously, saquon extension too
They can even do something with DJ money
Gotta at least toss around idea
anything is possible, they'd just have to get really creative. i dont really see it bc they have already committed targets to campbell, slayton, waller but i guess you never know. hodgins was their best WR last year so he will probably also be in mix. just drafted hyatt. shepard and robinson are already on the field in otas.
Not everyone on your roster needs to be 25 years old. Hopkins, Waller and Saquon would be glorious. Throw in Hyatt’s speed + Jones’ mobility + great depth (Campbell/Robinson/Hodgins/Bellinger/Shep/rookie RB) - fun to think about.
Personally, I wouldn't want to risk not being able to re-sign/extend Thomas and McKinney, oe even Barkley for that matter. The most prudent move would be to get your WR in the draft next season unless Hopkins is willing to take less.
Hopkins if they wanted to sign him. At this point Hopkins has are his millions and wants to go win somewhere. And Probably at a discount he won't offer the Giants.
If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?
Hopkins if they wanted to sign him. At this point Hopkins has are his millions and wants to go win somewhere. And Probably at a discount he won't offer the Giants.
If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?
We signed Slayton to 8/9M per. You don't think we could've used that money in better ways? We have Hodgins, who is our tall, jump-ball guy and we have Wan'Dale who is our shifty guy out of the slot. But since then, we added some more speedsters/HR threats in Parris Campell, Jamison Crowder, Jalin Hyatt, Jeff Smith and Bryce Ford-Wheaton. Slayton is redundant. Of course, we didn't know it at the time, but me thinks that if Schoen had an opportunity to do it over again, he would have used that Slayton money to address another position or two.
Like we did last year? We made it to the second round...
I don't think we should sign Hopkins, but that Slayton deal still sticks in my craw. Not a HUGE deal and there are certainly worse deals and players out there, but it just wasn't necessary. Same with Shepard, but at least Shepard's deal was a vet min. so he can easily be cut.
We piecemealed our WR1 with Waller, Slayton, Campbell and Hyatt. They could fit him if they want but it's probably smarter to start shuffling the cap in the event of an injury. I'd rather break glass for a vet in the event of an injury to Edge, OT or Corner than splurge on Hopkins before we can see what some of these other investments have to offer.
He knows this is his last chance to win a championship
That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS
It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old
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On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert. Link - ( New Window )
The same season as signing someone, cutting Slayton post June 1 should only be about $2MM in 2023 dead money. Not ideal, but not enough to dissuade signing Hopkins if they want him.
That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS
It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old [/
If they want him, they can compete financially with anyone. People don't understand that they can push the money into forever, forever. They can do it for as long as they want.
Let that sink.
Smart teams, willing to spend, don't have a salary.
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On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert. Link - ( New Window )
Would have been interesting if he added the Cleveland Groper to that list.
They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.
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"We're not one player away" is such a tired take that's regurgitated here endlessly. You're never one player away. You constantly try and improve. Just curious did you think the Bengals were one player away from the SB 2 years ago? You never know how things are gonna break injury/breaks wise. Young players may develop faster than you think who knows ? It's a year to year league. You constantly try and improve your team when possible. We made the division round of the playoffs last year. Who saw that coming?
he'd claimed he was looking for a team with stable management and a good defense and implied a QB who takes things seriously. a lot of targets from bryce young and jared goff available.
giants or ravens would have made sense pre-waller/obj deals but not sure the $ is there any more.
No expert, but extending Leo or adoree can make it happen
Obviously, saquon extension too
They can even do something with DJ money
Gotta at least toss around idea
anything is possible, they'd just have to get really creative. i dont really see it bc they have already committed targets to campbell, slayton, waller but i guess you never know. hodgins was their best WR last year so he will probably also be in mix. just drafted hyatt. shepard and robinson are already on the field in otas.
1 year 8 to 10 million with incentives
Legit contenders would could benefit from a 1 year contract
But he is due 18 million in salary, most of which could easily be restructured as bonus.
So, really money is no obstacle, as long as you are OK with kicking the can down the road.
I would do it because Hopkins potentially makes this skill group one of the best in the league. And you would really find out about DJ.
But then the Giants would have taken on his contract
Right now, he is a free agent and can sign for whatever
If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?
If they want to give him good money he'd sign but that's not the smartest move. Is this team a D Hop away for a play off run?
We signed Slayton to 8/9M per. You don't think we could've used that money in better ways? We have Hodgins, who is our tall, jump-ball guy and we have Wan'Dale who is our shifty guy out of the slot. But since then, we added some more speedsters/HR threats in Parris Campell, Jamison Crowder, Jalin Hyatt, Jeff Smith and Bryce Ford-Wheaton. Slayton is redundant. Of course, we didn't know it at the time, but me thinks that if Schoen had an opportunity to do it over again, he would have used that Slayton money to address another position or two.
Like we did last year? We made it to the second round...
I don't think we should sign Hopkins, but that Slayton deal still sticks in my craw. Not a HUGE deal and there are certainly worse deals and players out there, but it just wasn't necessary. Same with Shepard, but at least Shepard's deal was a vet min. so he can easily be cut.
I think he goes to KC. The perfect setup for him to succeed.
If you look at the other contenders they all have #1s and many have #2s. KC just has Kelce. Hopkins would take over the Tyreek Hill role.
If he goes to KC Hopkins will put up monster numbers. Moves up to the top of the 2nd round in fantasy.
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Text from one source on what to watch for Hopkins: "Bills"
Obviously one of Hopkins' many options here. Fantastic player.
We are going to be “not a wr away” forever here on bbi
The giants don’t think this way, in fact they think we are closer than most…that’s why it was quality over quantity in drsft and you saw us moving up.
Giants should absolutely make a phone call….
Waller
Barkley
Hopkins
Hyatt
Hodgins
Robinson
Campbell
Slayton
That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS
It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old
I agree
I expect bills or KC but giants should make a call for sure
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On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert.
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I think we're better off standing pat.
Josh Allen has to tone down hero ball a bit near red zone. Not a ton but sometimes tries to do too much.
But still need to consider him now
I am fine with a bunch of good , not great wrs
We aren’t there yet but we can probably find another good one in draft next yr too
bbi was wrong? What a shock.
[quote] In comment 16123715 jc in c-ville said:
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They go after him. As echoed, Giants are not a WR away.
We are going to be “not a wr away” forever here on bbi
The giants don’t think this way, in fact they think we are closer than most…that’s why it was quality over quantity in drsft and you saw us moving up.
Giants should absolutely make a phone call….
Waller
Barkley
Hopkins
Hyatt
Hodgins
Robinson
Campbell
Slayton
That is the makings of an actual NFL offense skill group and really only puts IOL as the only question mark offensively and they look to have landed a starter in JMS
It’s def a move I’d make and kicking Jackson or Williams dollars down road some shouldn’t be an issue. Both are solid players and big contributors and aren’t old [/
+ 1
Let that sink.
Smart teams, willing to spend, don't have a salary.
We could do it too.
@AdamSchefter
ESPN Senior NFL Insider.
@AdamSchefter
On a recent appearance on the “I Am Athlete” podcast, free-agent WR DeAndre Hopkins listed the five QBs he’d most like to catch passes from: the Bills’ Josh Allen, the Eagles’ Jalen Hurts, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, the Ravens’ Lamar Jackson and the Chargers’ Justin Herbert. Link - ( New Window )
Would have been interesting if he added the Cleveland Groper to that list.
Please god, not the fucking Eagles or Dallas.
Would love him here but fit seems really unlikely.
I guess Bills/KC are at top of list.
Glad the Giants didn't think this way when they traded for Rob Carpenter, mid season, at which point they were around 500.
PS, Rob Carpenter never even won a super bowl here with NYG. Was that still a bad trade?
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"We're not one player away" is such a tired take that's regurgitated here endlessly. You're never one player away. You constantly try and improve. Just curious did you think the Bengals were one player away from the SB 2 years ago? You never know how things are gonna break injury/breaks wise. Young players may develop faster than you think who knows ? It's a year to year league. You constantly try and improve your team when possible. We made the division round of the playoffs last year. Who saw that coming?
The remaining money on his contract was non-guaranteed, so it's vapor now - there wouldn't be any offset language attached to non-guaranteed salary.