I love the final scene of the Sopranos. For me, seeing Tony, his family, and the other patrons enjoying the simple things in life is a good reminder to do the same...and Tony's demise during it is a jolting reminder to enjoy it while I can.
Went with my family for lunch, was lucky to sit in the booth where the scene was shot.
Great place. Simple old ice cream shop with a small diner menu and the 4 of us all enjoyed what we had. We'll worth the visit if in the area.
I’ll take “Angry Overreactions” for $200, Alex.
Good grief
Get a clue, Chachi. :)
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That's awesome. Seems like a great spot really for any occasion. That's what we saw when there, just like in the scene - a couple families, a few couples on dates, and some folks in their late 70s.
I actually didn't get the onion rings...probably should have.
holy shit
On Saturdays the Sopranos tour would come through about 1 PM. Avoid it then unless you like being gawked at by German tourists.
I agree with this Milton. That's exactly how I interpreted it. Although, if I someone told me I had to bet on it.... I think he does get whacked there... lol.
I believe that. Don't Stop Believin isn't actually in the jukebox either. And they put the men's room sign on the women's room door for the show.
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...but how he lives. The conversation at the dinner table is about the FBI investigation and the possibility of Tony going to prison. The suspense we feel, wondering who might be the guy in the restaurant who might whack Tony is what Tony feels every day. This is how he lives, maybe he'll wind up in prison, maybe that guy at the counter will kill him, maybe the guy coming out of the bathroom will, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe next month, maybe next year. It's how he lives. And that's what the scene is about. Not how he dies.
I agree with this Milton. That's exactly how I interpreted it. Although, if I someone told me I had to bet on it.... I think he does get whacked there... lol.
Yeah, both. These two things are not incongruent.
if thats the case, why not just fade out normally instead of the abrupt blackness? Also, the onion rings at Holsten's aren't good at all. Processed rings, basically what you would get from the ShopRite frozen section.
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Holy shit one of my favorite BBI posts in a long time. Just 'shithead' perfected
I have also been saying the same thing about breaking bad tho so what do I know.
I always thought the ending was a clever, sardonic twist to the fans and viewers of the show. In the end we were the ones who couldn’t see, hear or visualize what happened…We are all immediately disconnected from the Sopranos reality and it all vanished in a blink of the eye.
I’m my mind what happened to Tony is less important and since we don’t see what happened can be left to the interpretation of the individual viewer (regardless of what Chase had in mind. Much like a literary essay (as long as you can defend analysis with arguments of facts, foreshadowing, symbolism, etc.)
If Gandolfini hadn’t passed and Chase was offered an enormous amount of cash are we all so certain Chase wouldnt have altered his original intent of Tony getting whacked to support a sequel or movie? That’s why I only take at face value what was actually shown on the show. Is a made up world and know one person can tell me what to think about it…not even Chase.
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Just something fictional that was in the script of the episode (owner’s words, not mine), so now everyone orders them.
I believe that. Don't Stop Believin isn't actually in the jukebox either. And they put the men's room sign on the women's room door for the show.
There is no jukebox, other than the one they installed (and is still there) for the show. And yeah, the onion rings are really nothing special.
That's a neat little shopping area. There's a butcher across the street from Holstein's -- Mastriano's -- where they make the best sandwiches.
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Just something fictional that was in the script of the episode (owner’s words, not mine), so now everyone orders them.
I believe that. Don't Stop Believin isn't actually in the jukebox either. And they put the men's room sign on the women's room door for the show.
There is no jukebox, other than the one they installed (and is still there) for the show. And yeah, the onion rings are really nothing special.
That's a neat little shopping area. There's a butcher across the street from Holstein's -- Mastriano's -- where they make the best sandwiches.
So, there is no jukebox? Other than the one installed for the show which is still there? Wouldn’t that mean thereIS a jukebox there? I’m confused, lol
I always thought the ending was a clever, sardonic twist to the fans and viewers of the show. In the end we were the ones who couldn’t see, hear or visualize what happened…We are all immediately disconnected from the Sopranos reality and it all vanished in a blink of the eye.
I’m my mind what happened to Tony is less important and since we don’t see what happened can be left to the interpretation of the individual viewer (regardless of what Chase had in mind. Much like a literary essay (as long as you can defend analysis with arguments of facts, foreshadowing, symbolism, etc.)
If Gandolfini hadn’t passed and Chase was offered an enormous amount of cash are we all so certain Chase wouldnt have altered his original intent of Tony getting whacked to support a sequel or movie? That’s why I only take at face value what was actually shown on the show. Is a made up world and know one person can tell me what to think about it…not even Chase.
I agree, the ending would've been fluid given the climate of extending the show if so desired.
Given Chase's higher level of filmmaking and imagery, the idea that he would create an ambiguous ending seems very in line with what he would do. And I can see why many people would jump to this.
At the same time, he really went out of his way with the "Members Only Jacket" theme over multiple episodes that season, including having that mysterious guy going to the bathroom credited as "Man in Members Only Jacket". Chase has also stated multiple times that "everything is there if you look for it".
Based on that last paragraph, it's hard to imagine he would go out of his way to falsely lead the audience just for the sake of doing it.
What I think we can say after all these years is that the possibility for a Sopranos movie meant that Tony Soprano himself as James Gandolfini would have to be a part of it (and most every fan of the show would agree with this). So if the intent was to kill off Tony but still keep the possibility of a movie open, then the open ended conclusion was brilliant.
And now that Gandolfini is no longer around, it's safer to be definitive about the ending being what a good amount of people feel happened (death).
If that's the case, what storyline possibly was wrapped up in that finale?
The only thing I could piece together was Patsy Parisi getting revenge for Tony killing his brother Philly in the first season. As the audience we definitely know that Patsy is convinced Tony was the one who did it as he nearly shot at Tony's house in season 2 when the FBI was spying on him (and instead he urinated on his lawn).
The tense energy at Tony's house when Meadow and her fiancee (Patsy's son, Jason I think) were celebrating their engagement, plus the fact that Patsy survived that shootout outside Bada Bing, are some signs that maybe this was a possibility.
A fun game to play would be to assume Tony was indeed murdered, and to guess who was responsible and why?
Who else besides Patsy would want to do it and actually carry it out?
A fun game to play would be to assume Tony was indeed murdered, and to guess who was responsible and why?
Who else besides Patsy would want to do it and actually carry it out?
Brother or other relative of Eugene Pontecorvo.
If that's the case, what storyline possibly was wrapped up in that finale?
The only thing I could piece together was Patsy Parisi getting revenge for Tony killing his brother Philly in the first season. As the audience we definitely know that Patsy is convinced Tony was the one who did it as he nearly shot at Tony's house in season 2 when the FBI was spying on him (and instead he urinated on his lawn).
The tense energy at Tony's house when Meadow and her fiancee (Patsy's son, Jason I think) were celebrating their engagement, plus the fact that Patsy survived that shootout outside Bada Bing, are some signs that maybe this was a possibility.
A fun game to play would be to assume Tony was indeed murdered, and to guess who was responsible and why?
Who else besides Patsy would want to do it and actually carry it out?
Patsy actually pissed in the pool, not on the lawn.
Then he pissed in PaulN's Cheerios.
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Just something fictional that was in the script of the episode (owner’s words, not mine), so now everyone orders them.
I believe that. Don't Stop Believin isn't actually in the jukebox either. And they put the men's room sign on the women's room door for the show.
There is no jukebox, other than the one they installed (and is still there) for the show. And yeah, the onion rings are really nothing special.
That's a neat little shopping area. There's a butcher across the street from Holstein's -- Mastriano's -- where they make the best sandwiches.
So, there is no jukebox? Other than the one installed for the show which is still there? Wouldn’t that mean thereIS a jukebox there? I’m confused, lol
There's one of those individual jukebox things, like at a diner, at the one table they filmed at. There are no others at any of the other tables. Hope this clear this up, but if not screw all the way off.
Awww damn, there goes that theory!
Sepinwall and Zoller Seitz were stunned by Chase’s confession, rightly so considering his recent comments about the finale (“I also feel like, Jesus, there were 86 episodes and you’re fixated on that? Can’t we talk about something else?”). When they pointed out his use of the words “death scene,” Chase paused and replied, “F*ck you guys.”
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Where? I grew up in Nutley. About 15-20 minutes from there. Kind of cracked me up to see a place I had eaten in growing up as the final scene location
Then again the whole series did locations wise. My Aunt lived 5 minutes from Vesuvio. I was in the famed BadaBing even though it was Satin Dolls in the 80s
I'm worried about this guy.
I grew up in Nutley, too. Right by the Nutley/Bloomfield border near the Garden State Parkway entrance.
No -- see above.
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Where? I grew up in Nutley. About 15-20 minutes from there.
I grew up in Nutley, too. Right by the Nutley/Bloomfield border near the Garden State Parkway entrance.
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Where? I grew up in Nutley. About 15-20 minutes from there.
I grew up in Nutley, too. Right by the Nutley/Bloomfield border near the Garden State Parkway entrance.
I was in Glen Ridge and my friends and I frequently walked there.
We rode our bikes there. Great time to be a kid. We walked or rode everywhere