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Daniel Jones and Giants ready to give 'dead snap' a chance

bumpsinthenight : 5/30/2023 12:12 pm
ESPN article.

I know it's been discussed that JMS was using it in camp and DJ didn't have a problem with him using it but didn't see a write-up.

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So when Jones was asked by new center John Michael Schmitz (this year’s second-round pick out of the University of Minnesota) whether he was OK with the “dead snap” technique that Schmitz used in college, there wasn’t much to consider.

“As long as it gets back to me,” Jones told ESPN.

Daniel Jones and Giants ready to give 'dead snap' a chance - ( New Window )
Is this a big deal?  
pennylane : 5/30/2023 12:27 pm : link
I don't really know.
wait until the first botched snap...  
bumpsinthenight : 5/30/2023 12:34 pm : link
It is an adjustment; the ball is in a different orientation when it gets to the QB. Instead of coming with the nose of the ball posting to the QB, he can catch much like a WR with the hand forming a diamond; the ball is on the vertical axis of the nose, so you're catching more like you would catch a basketball since it is longwise to the QB.
Sick of this already  
David B. : 5/30/2023 12:41 pm : link
Unless the OC-QB exchange starts failing regularly, this thing is getting WAY too much press.
RE: Is this a big deal?  
bumpsinthenight : 5/30/2023 12:50 pm : link
In comment 16125148 pennylane said:
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I don't really know.



To clarify, I don't think it is a big deal at all, and neither does DJ, and he's the only person that matters in this discussion.
well, the center matters, too  
fkap : 5/30/2023 12:58 pm : link
if DJ wants traditional, the center has to get used to a different snapping method.
Probably only take a couple hundred snaps to get used to it.....  
MOOPS : 5/30/2023 12:58 pm : link
for Jones. Likely only a subtle difference on his end.
You'd likely prefer Hassenauer and Bredeson to snap the same way for the sake of consistency. They currently don't.
RE: Sick of this already  
joeinpa : 5/30/2023 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16125161 David B. said:
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Unless the OC-QB exchange starts failing regularly, this thing is getting WAY too much press.


Lol, so true, and unfortunately becoming a norm on sport’s reporting
Sick of it? Lol  
UConn4523 : 5/30/2023 1:25 pm : link
It’s May, what would you prefer? It’s a tactical change and it’s interesting. It’s also a completely avoidable subject if you don’t like it.

Just wait, this will be listed on Sept 10th as one of the "key"  
PatersonPlank : 5/30/2023 1:26 pm : link
factors the Giants need to overcome to beat the Cowboys - LOL
The big consideration  
mittenedman : 5/30/2023 1:35 pm : link
is snap speed. The traditional snap moves w/faster verlocity which helps the QB. However, the dead snap may be more accurate and easier to catch and transition the grip into throwing position.
RE: RE: Sick of this already  
Everyone Relax : 5/30/2023 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16125181 joeinpa said:
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In comment 16125161 David B. said:


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Unless the OC-QB exchange starts failing regularly, this thing is getting WAY too much press.



Lol, so true, and unfortunately becoming a norm on sport’s reporting

We are in the information overload era. If Jones were to nick himself shaving we'd be getting medical updates daily.
RE: Probably only take a couple hundred snaps to get used to it.....  
D HOS : 5/30/2023 1:48 pm : link
In comment 16125175 MOOPS said:
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for Jones. Likely only a subtle difference on his end.
You'd likely prefer Hassenauer and Bredeson to snap the same way for the sake of consistency. They currently don't.


That was my thought also. JMS gets hurt, now the snap totally changes. Maybe not a big deal, but seems like something to keep in mind.
I have 3 Cs...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/30/2023 1:58 pm : link
...2 deap snap.
DJ stated the only part that matters. Get it to him.
I was at the Sunday Night DAL- Giants game in 1985  
Victor in CT : 5/30/2023 2:09 pm : link
when Oates and Simms botched the snap to blow the game. Don't be surprised if there are issues early, it's only natural. Ultimately they will work it out, but the media and internet bullshit today will be unceasing if it does occur.
RE: Probably only take a couple hundred snaps to get used to it.....  
Mad Mike : 5/30/2023 2:13 pm : link
In comment 16125175 MOOPS said:
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for Jones. Likely only a subtle difference on his end.
You'd likely prefer Hassenauer and Bredeson to snap the same way for the sake of consistency. They currently don't.

One of the pros that I've seen people citing for using the dead snap is that's it's easier for the snapper, so makes it easier to swap guys in if necessary. Presumably if the Giants decide to go with it, our backup centers will spend plenty of time on it and have no problem doing it effectively.
I'm going to go out on a limb...  
JohnG in Albany : 5/30/2023 2:21 pm : link
and say that I think an NFL quarterback can catch a football coming to him from the center.

RE: I was at the Sunday Night DAL- Giants game in 1985  
section125 : 5/30/2023 3:22 pm : link
In comment 16125246 Victor in CT said:
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when Oates and Simms botched the snap to blow the game. Don't be surprised if there are issues early, it's only natural. Ultimately they will work it out, but the media and internet bullshit today will be unceasing if it does occur.


WTF, you are worried about something that happened 38 years ago with two different players? The beat Lamar because of a blown snap last year. Bad snaps happen all the time, not matter the style.

It will take maybe a few snaps to get used to it. Seems to me it would be easier to catch. The only concern should be if it gets to Jones as fast as the regular way and that is all that matters.
RE: RE: I was at the Sunday Night DAL- Giants game in 1985  
Victor in CT : 5/30/2023 4:40 pm : link
In comment 16125296 section125 said:
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In comment 16125246 Victor in CT said:


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when Oates and Simms botched the snap to blow the game. Don't be surprised if there are issues early, it's only natural. Ultimately they will work it out, but the media and internet bullshit today will be unceasing if it does occur.



WTF, you are worried about something that happened 38 years ago with two different players? The beat Lamar because of a blown snap last year. Bad snaps happen all the time, not matter the style.

It will take maybe a few snaps to get used to it. Seems to me it would be easier to catch. The only concern should be if it gets to Jones as fast as the regular way and that is all that matters.


you been taking writing tips from PaulN LOL? I'm not worrying, merely pointing out that it wouldn't be unusual for issues to occur with a new C/QB combo, and that in today's media world it would overblown.
You have to look at it from a news reporter's point of view.  
Marty in Albany : 5/30/2023 9:40 pm : link
There are multiple issues (like player development, player health, coaching strategy) that are far more IMPORTANT to the Giants' ability to win than the dead snap, BUT the dead snap is actual NEWS.
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David B. : 6/2/2023 8:12 pm : link
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