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Notes:
-Quick turnaround for the game today since yesterday's was at night.
-Mets have already won this three-game series with their victories the past two nights.
-They're going for the sweep today before facing Toronto at Citi Field tomorrow evening.
-The Mets will be facing starting pitchers for the opposition today and tomorrow who were in their starting rotation last season in Walker and Bassitt, respecitively.
-Walker pitched well last season during day games at Citi Field, so be aware of that.
-Vientos is sitting for Vogelbach again at DH today; only 2 of the 3 kids are in the lineup today (Baty is batting 5th against the righty Walker).
-Alvarez is hitting ninth today.
-The 4-man bench today will consist of Vientos, Escobar, Pham & Nido.
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-The Mets are tied with the Marlins for 2nd place in the NL East and for the 5th and 6th final seeds in the playoffs if they were to start today.
-There's a ton of time left, but now is the time to start making hey in the "W" column.
He wouldn't have. Take it a step further and ask yourself this: IF Narvaez didn't get hurt and Nido stayed stayed healthy, would we have seen Alvarez yet? We know the answer is no.
Clearly, Buck is an incredibly experienced baseball guy, but I also don't understand Alvarez in the 2 spot.
Clearly, Buck is an incredibly experienced baseball guy, but I also don't understand Alvarez in the 2 spot.
Buck's problem is that he manages to prove the press and social media wrong. He can't take criticism and does not seem able to tune it out.
Clearly, Buck is an incredibly experienced baseball guy, but I also don't understand Alvarez in the 2 spot.
Something is clearly off. Let me reiterate this: I have a MASSIVE amount of respect for Showalter. The man is a baseball savant. He knows the rules inside and out and is incredibly professional; HOWEVER, his distaste for rookies and his stubbornness are pat of his Achilles Heel (along with managing games in September like they're Spring Training games and other things numerous posters have brought up him while watching him manage the last year and change).
Uncle Steve needs to look long and hard at keeping him around going forward if this continues---which is clearly will based on what we've seen.
vogelbach has 1 hit in his last 17 plate appearances. his last XBH and his last RBI was almost a month ago already on may 7th.
lmao! That's actually funny and interesting at the same time. Are we talking per at bat here? If so, three and a half. I'll take the under.
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on the number of times Vogelbach swings the bat?
lmao! That's actually funny and interesting at the same time. Are we talking per at bat here? If so, three and a half. I'll take the under.
I'll take the under as well. Hell, he might not swing 3 times all game....
Additionally, why do we continue to trot the useless Vogelbach out there day after day when he can't hit out of a paper bag?
Does he have pictures of Buck naked in the hot tub????
Anyway, it frustrates me that while Buck would make a good bench coach, a younger manager who gets these kids coming up through the farm should be managing.
It is frustrating.
Additionally, why do we continue to trot the useless Vogelbach out there day after day when he can't hit out of a paper bag?
Does he have pictures of Buck naked in the hot tub????
Anyway, it frustrates me that while Buck would make a good bench coach, a younger manager who gets these kids coming up through the farm should be managing.
It is frustrating.
I think Vanzetti nailed it on the thread from lst night with his post today about it.
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Additionally, why do we continue to trot the useless Vogelbach out there day after day when he can't hit out of a paper bag?
Does he have pictures of Buck naked in the hot tub????
Anyway, it frustrates me that while Buck would make a good bench coach, a younger manager who gets these kids coming up through the farm should be managing.
It is frustrating.
Vanzetti nailed it with a post today on the thread from yesterday:
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lmao! That's actually funny and interesting at the same time. Are we talking per at bat here? If so, three and a half. I'll take the under.
I think he might've once read a headline that said "Lose weight be walking!". He didn't read the article, in which it said "lose weight by walking 1+ miles a day".
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on the number of times Vogelbach swings the bat?
lmao! That's actually funny and interesting at the same time. Are we talking per at bat here? If so, three and a half. I'll take the under.
I think he might've once read a headline that said "Lose weight be walking!". He didn't read the article, in which it said "lose weight by walking 1+ miles a day".
2. Lindor
3. Pete - get him up every 1st inning?
4. Alvarez - mash that thing young buck!
5. Marte - could trade spots w/Lindor since he actually steals bases
6. Baty - looking solid to start his career
7. Canha/DH (hopefully Vientos)
8. Canha/DH
9. Nimmo (I know, but small sacrifice for Pete, then he's basically leadoff again after first time thru order)
they traded more for Ruf than Vogelbach and they dumped him by the side of the road early. JDD alone has been a more valuable piece than Holderman. so i dont think it's even about justifying the trade.
i believe it is simply buck being stubbornly old school about veterans. i dont think he's worried about his reputation or how the trade looks in hindsight, i think he thinks he's right that rookies are unreliable and he's right to trust vogelbach's "discerning veteran eye" to get on base to help the team. i think he also thinks he's already "carrying the risk" of 2 rookies in his every day lineup. he's just wrong. on this particular subject he's the worst caricature of "old school".
dont know where to look up how many of those barrels were xbh but i would imagine that is an almost direct relationship.
for reference alvarez and baty both have 8 barrels on the season. pete has 29 already this year and had 59 last year. lindor has 16 and had 42 last year.
2. Lindor
3. Pete - get him up every 1st inning?
4. Alvarez - mash that thing young buck!
5. Marte - could trade spots w/Lindor since he actually steals bases
6. Baty - looking solid to start his career
7. Canha/DH (hopefully Vientos)
8. Canha/DH
9. Nimmo (I know, but small sacrifice for Pete, then he's basically leadoff again after first time thru order)
I'd move Nimmo to leadoff, and then move everyone else down a spot, and I'd be fine with that.
2. Lindor
3. Pete - get him up every 1st inning?
4. Alvarez - mash that thing young buck!
5. Marte - could trade spots w/Lindor since he actually steals bases
6. Baty - looking solid to start his career
7. Canha/DH (hopefully Vientos)
8. Canha/DH
9. Nimmo (I know, but small sacrifice for Pete, then he's basically leadoff again after first time thru order)
Speaking strictly for myself, I want Nimmo leading off...he's top 10 in the NL Batting race and he sees a lot of pitches per AB.
I want McNeil's bat control behind Nimmo, it also helps that McNeil is a lefty. Lindor's pretty handy with the bat too.
Pete will get to bat in the 1st inning if any one of those 3 get on base.
I'd like to break up the righties batting after Pete....wouldn't mind Baty coming up right after Pete.
Vientos at DH and has to face all LH Pitching, plus some select Righties. He doesn't have to play the field at this point in time.
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1. McNeil
2. Lindor
3. Pete - get him up every 1st inning?
4. Alvarez - mash that thing young buck!
5. Marte - could trade spots w/Lindor since he actually steals bases
6. Baty - looking solid to start his career
7. Canha/DH (hopefully Vientos)
8. Canha/DH
9. Nimmo (I know, but small sacrifice for Pete, then he's basically leadoff again after first time thru order)
Speaking strictly for myself, I want Nimmo leading off...he's top 10 in the NL Batting race and he sees a lot of pitches per AB.
I want McNeil's bat control behind Nimmo, it also helps that McNeil is a lefty. Lindor's pretty handy with the bat too.
Pete will get to bat in the 1st inning if any one of those 3 get on base.
I'd like to break up the righties batting after Pete....wouldn't mind Baty coming up right after Pete.
Vientos at DH and has to face all LH Pitching, plus some select Righties. He doesn't have to play the field at this point in time.
thanks man....I didn't look at L vs. R (just going gut) and I didn't look at avg. leaders, just knew that McNeil was up there last year. Didn't want to upset Lindor, hence he's in the 2 hole. But I do like Nimmo & McNeil back to back for the amount of pitches they see. Idea was to get Pete up sooner/more AB's (a la Judge) and not bat Alvarez 9th. Could put Lindor 5th. Fun to talk about vs. what we get IRL haha
go Canha! :)
leaving vogelbach in vs a lefty in this situation would have been malpractice.
a little surprising he went vientos over escobar though. this is more of a veteran spot.
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leaving vogelbach in vs a lefty in this situation would have been malpractice.
a little surprising he went vientos over escobar though. this is more of a veteran spot.
Big insurance run, especially with the BP situation
he actually hit that ball 112.8 mph and had an .810 xba, which is his hardest hit ball as a met this year. that's a quality at bat.
mark vientos 26 at bats, 5 rbis
mark vientos 26 at bats, 5 rbis
I believe it is 4 for Vientos, though I agree with the larger point
mark vientos 26 at bats, 5 rbis
Oy Vey!
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daniel vogelbach 51 at bats, 2 rbis
mark vientos 26 at bats, 5 rbis
I believe it is 4 for Vientos, though I agree with the larger point
you're right i did some very bad math there.
he actually hit that ball 112.8 mph and had an .810 xba, which is his hardest hit ball as a met this year. that's a quality at bat.
Criminal that he isnt getting all the DH at bats. The platoon concept clearly isn't working.
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full count and he does his job.
he actually hit that ball 112.8 mph and had an .810 xba, which is his hardest hit ball as a met this year. that's a quality at bat.
Criminal that he isnt getting all the DH at bats. The platoon concept clearly isn't working.
I get wanting to use him as more than a DH if you are going to play him, but both of our COF spots require rest to keep them fresh down the stretch so that would open up a spot. Hell I would sooner use Mehscobar at DH than Vogey because at least he has the potential to go on a hot streak.
101 pitches (71 strikes)
7 IP
5 H
2 R (1 ER)
0 HR
1 BB
9 K
3.21 ERA
Drew Smith the long ball has caused him to fall on the depth chart especially since Philly can mash
101 pitches (71 strikes)
7 IP
5 H
2 R (1 ER)
0 HR
1 BB
9 K
3.21 ERA
Scherzer pitching like this changes the outlook and upside for this team in a big way.
Hope the pen can close this out.
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would have thought drew smith but maybe buck wants someone he can pull for raley if they get their big lefties up in the 8th?
Drew Smith the long ball has caused him to fall on the depth chart especially since Philly can mash
brigham has given up 4 homers in 18 innings (smith has 2 in 18 innings).
with otto/robertson down there aren't any good options though.
Looks like Drew Smith is gonna come in to close things out in the 9th, unless the Mets tack on a buncha runs in the Bottom of the 8th here. Hopefully they can do just that and save everyone some agita.
Looks like Drew Smith is gonna come in to close things out in the 9th, unless the Mets tack on a buncha runs in the Bottom of the 8th here. Hopefully they can do just that and save everyone some agita.
smith coming on now with 1 out left to get with drew ellis up. he's 1 for 10 against righties.
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15 pitches, 11 strikes, 3 easy outs. Can't ask for more.
Looks like Drew Smith is gonna come in to close things out in the 9th, unless the Mets tack on a buncha runs in the Bottom of the 8th here. Hopefully they can do just that and save everyone some agita.
smith coming on now with 1 out left to get with drew ellis up. he's 1 for 10 against righties.
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there is a clear deserving every day player at every spot,
the bullpen is thin so if there's one area they should have an eye out to add anything they can, that's it.
it's past time to do the obvious and get vientos in there near every day for a week or two and see what happens. he has delivered from his first game up to his very professional late game at bat today. all 4 of his RBIs have come late game in wins when it mattered. he's played defense. all he does is hit the ball hard. there is only upside playing him.
the decision is eventually going to be calling up mauricio for pham or vogelbach. they have some time but not a lot if they want to see what mauricio can do before they go shopping for veterans. they have more time if there aren't any compelling veterans out there to begin with, but they cant predict that right now.
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That's big that they got contributions from elsewhere, particularly Canha.
And obviously, holding the Phils to 3 runs in the series helps a ton.
Alvarez has been better than advertised. Baty's not quite as good a hitter as expected, but holding his own. Vientos needs to play more.
I think Escobar's recent revival is keeping Mauricio in the minors. I don't think they want 3 rookie infielders (Baty, Vientos, Mauricio) on the roster, especially when at least two of them of them have questions about their defense. Too bad Mauricio can't play a corner OF spot yet; I'd take him over Tommy Pham or Tim Locastro in a heartbeat.
Guillorme is a good enough glove to have some trade value (love the guy but he's gotta hit more). Probably not enough trade value to get the kind of pitching help the Mets need, but he can bring back something. Otherwise, I think the most likely trade bait is Vientos — and they're clearly not showcasing him.
Trea Turner had a hit today, but otherwise looks lost (.279 OBP), and Kyle Schwarber is an automatic out. He has total 31 hits this season in 194 AB's, 13 are homers with 70 strikeouts...yes, a bunch of walks but, ouch.
No sympathy, even with Harper back, they look lost...of course, they did last year too and ended up in the WS.
Interesting question/conversation in my section Tuesday night about a hypothetical (I know it will never happen) trade proposal..
Would you trade Alvarez straight up for Othani?
Easy to say "of course," but Ohtani is going to be the first 400 million dollar player and turns 29 in a month. You are talking huge money versus a player with a really, really high ceiling who is six years away from free agency. Power from the catcher position, maybe 30 homers a year?
If I'm the Mets, I'm not so sure...that's a lot of money you can spend elsewhere...
It was a fun conversation and about 60/40 in favor of the trade, FYI.
I don't think his future is in the infield. He's got 6 errors in 24 games at 2b, and 5 errors at SS....and he's blocked at both positions.
Get him some games in the outfield, he's certainly got the arm for it.
I don't think his future is in the infield. He's got 6 errors in 24 games at 2b, and 5 errors at SS....and he's blocked at both positions.
Get him some games in the outfield, he's certainly got the arm for it.
He's supposedly been terrible when they tried him out in the OF. Let's see what happens in winter ball.
I don't think his future is in the infield. He's got 6 errors in 24 games at 2b, and 5 errors at SS....and he's blocked at both positions.
Get him some games in the outfield, he's certainly got the arm for it.
100% agree. As for can he do it, if he looked terrible? When did they try him out there? Don't you have to give him some run out there for an extended period to see if he can learn the position? He can run, he can throw, he's a SS for goodness sakes. Playing left or right field is not as challenging as SS. The one area you would think might be a problem is reading the ball off the bat and getting good jumps, but that can only be learned from reps.
There's no doubt in my mind he has the athleticism to play the outfield. It's puzzling to me why they aren't getting him reps out there and at 2B. To me it's overly conservative. Look at Mookie Betts, he's only played a handful of games in his career at middle infield, mostly at 2B, and he played a total of 15 games at SS in the minors 11 seasons ago, and they have played him there 8 games so far this year.
It only makes sense to get Mauricio some position versatility. The lack of foresight with him defensively is troubling. You traded for Lindor before the 2021 season to be your SS for 10 years. That's 2+ seasons ago, and Mauricio has played almost exclusively SS, the first time you've tried him at another position really was this year, 27 games at 2B. Why? He's 6'3", and part of his known physical profile for years has been his potential to fill out.
As for the previous question, I would not trade Alvarez for anyone. To me, he's a generational catcher. This is the second coming of Pudge Rodriguez, but with more power.
And Ohtani is superb, but as mentioned, the money matters. Make an aggressive run at him in free agency, absolutely, but I want him pitching to Alvarez.
Look at the greatest catchers of all-time... Bench, Berra, Pudge, and Piazza. I put Bench at the very top and Alvarez can be that good. His combination of power, hit tool, and defensive ability, at this age, I would argue if Alvarez is what we've seen to this point, he's in Bench company.
I know, it's too high praise for a rookie, but I've never seen a catcher with this combo of ability in my lifetime, and I'm in my mid-40s. I didn't really see Bench play, the greatest catcher I've ever seen from a defensive and offensive combination to ever play was Pudge Rodriguez, and Alvarez has considerably more power than him.
Has a catcher ever won a GG and led the league in homeruns? That's Alvarez's upside. The answer is yes, Bench did it twice, Pudge once (the only time Pudge went over 30 HRs with 31 total). Alvarez might get to 31 by September 1st and he barely played in April. To me he's too special and I wouldn't entertain any kind of offer for him.
2. Lindor
3. Pete - get him up every 1st inning?
4. Alvarez - mash that thing young buck!
5. Marte - could trade spots w/Lindor since he actually steals bases
6. Baty - looking solid to start his career
7. Canha/DH (hopefully Vientos)
8. Canha/DH
9. Nimmo (I know, but small sacrifice for Pete, then he's basically leadoff again after first time thru order)
Lindor has low OBP but he drives in runs. So I'd put him behind Pete to give him protection. A lot of guys pitching around Polar B with Baty behind him. So something like this:
Nimmo
McNeil
Alonso
Lindor
Alvarez
Baty
Marte
Vogy/Vientos
Canha
Vogy's one skill is he takes a lot of pitches so you want him behind Marte, so Marte can steal. And you want your highest OBP in front of your HR hitters.
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Source: The Mets have traded for right-handed reliever Vinny Nittoli from the Cubs.
He was in limbo after opting out of his minor league contract yesterday. Will go on the Mets' 40-man roster but can be optioned. Nottoli had a 3.48 ERA in 16 appearances at AAA.
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Source: The Mets have traded for right-handed reliever Vinny Nittoli from the Cubs.
He was in limbo after opting out of his minor league contract yesterday. Will go on the Mets' 40-man roster but can be optioned. Nottoli had a 3.48 ERA in 16 appearances at AAA.
Do we have room on the 40? I think they DFA Yacabonis so I guess he replaced him?
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I'd love to know if Ronny Mauricio can play corner outfield. I don't think he's ever been out there in his entire time in the Mets farm system.
I don't think his future is in the infield. He's got 6 errors in 24 games at 2b, and 5 errors at SS....and he's blocked at both positions.
Get him some games in the outfield, he's certainly got the arm for it.
He's supposedly been terrible when they tried him out in the OF. Let's see what happens in winter ball.
You may be thinking of Ahmed Rosario here. Cleveland tried him in the OF when they traded for him.....it didn't go well.
Mauricio has been in the Mets minors for 5 seasons. He's played 436 games on the infield. And not one inning in the Outfield.
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with the cheap years of control i think you'd have to keep the guy with that much upside and the $500m in cash vs. trading that amount for a half year of ohtani.
if he gets to FA, which he'd be crazy not to do at this point, sign him outright. if he gets to the trade market, anyone other than Alvarez is negotiable. i'd do Baty for Ohtani tomorrow knowing we have Vientos and Mauricio who could conceivably step into that spot almost right away.
interestingly the trade value simulator that's supposedly accurate on like 90% of real trades has Alvarez as the most valuable asset on the mets and more valuable than ohtani's remaining half year, but baty not too far off as the 3rd most valuable asset on the mets (lindor is 2nd).
they have Baty + Ramirez for Ohtani + Estevez as almost exactly even but slightly favoring angels. if they needed more than that they can have peterson and/or vasil too. plugging ohtani into the middle of this lineup and top of rotation would be insanity.
Ohtani is Babe Ruth.
He'd be the Mets best pitcher and top 2 or 3 hitter.
Alvarez is awesome and if they could acquire Ohtani without him I'd prefer it, but catcher is so shallow it basically levels the position to league average with some upside from Parada in a couple years.
Ohtani is Babe Ruth.
He'd be the Mets best pitcher and top 2 or 3 hitter.
Alvarez is awesome and if they could acquire Ohtani without him I'd prefer it, but catcher is so shallow it basically levels the position to league average with some upside from Parada in a couple years.
Put down the crack pipe Pookie
It's a long shot that Alvarez ever sniffs 8 fWAR.
The highest recorded catcher fWAR ever for a season is Johnny Bench and Gary Carter at 8.6. Ever.
Age is the only advantage Alvarez has.
Someone is smoking crack, only it's not who you think.
Ohtani is Babe Ruth.
He'd be the Mets best pitcher and top 2 or 3 hitter.
Alvarez is awesome and if they could acquire Ohtani without him I'd prefer it, but catcher is so shallow it basically levels the position to league average with some upside from Parada in a couple years.
It makes for interesting debate and when the group in section 114 I was with at CitiField Tuesday night was throwing it around, the assumption was that Ohtani would be signed, not a rental.
Ohtani is two players in one, but he may get 50 million a year; between his prowess as a hitter and a pitcher, plus the huge upside of his marketability....he'll be the face of any franchise he ends up with.
But, six years of team control is huge for Alvarez.
I'd love for Ohtani to end up on the Mets, of course. If not, I sure hope he ends up in the American League.
But, in today's baseball world there are only a handful on teams that can even consider the numbers he'll demand for 10 years (so you're paying him when he's in his late 30's)...round up the usual suspects...
Dodgers, Padres, Red Sox, Mets. Phillies (though with Harper perhaps not, especially if Wheeler and Nola are both free agents this year-too lazy to look it up), Angels?
I don't think the Yankees can sign him after signing Judge.
Whoever trades for him will have to give up a lot and will be sure they can sign him.
Ohtani is turning 29 right around the trade deadline so let's estimate him having 6 prime years left all at 8 wins that's obviously double at 48 wins and a net difference of 24 wins.
over the last 2 years:
a 50m aav/$500m contract should in theory buy you
8+ wins per year batting or
7+ wins per year pitching.
remember 50m per year is by itself 22% of the lux tax threshold and some number well below that per year would have gotten them judge or boegarts last year (or whichever of the big FAs they wanted). over 6 years aaron judge or any of the big FAs last year would almost definitely blow through the 24 fwar difference.
now let's add in that an injury to ohtani is probably both more likely since he's older and pitches, and more costly because you are counting on twice as much production from him. if he misses 1 of those 6 prime years, now the FA you sign with the $500m cash only has to produce 16 fwar to compensate. Lindor as a met is closing on that level of production 3 years into a 10 year/340m deal.
It's a long shot that Alvarez ever sniffs 8 fWAR.
The highest recorded catcher fWAR ever for a season is Johnny Bench and Gary Carter at 8.6. Ever.
Age is the only advantage Alvarez has.
Someone is smoking crack, only it's not who you think.
Be patient Daniel-san. You can have both come this off-season and give up nothing other than $$$. Glad you aren't running the team.
interestingly the trade value simulator that's supposedly accurate on like 90% of real trades has Alvarez as the most valuable asset on the mets and more valuable than ohtani's remaining half year, but baty not too far off as the 3rd most valuable asset on the mets (lindor is 2nd).
Wow, surprised baty is more valuable than Alonso. Is that because of the position he plays?
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interestingly the trade value simulator that's supposedly accurate on like 90% of real trades has Alvarez as the most valuable asset on the mets and more valuable than ohtani's remaining half year, but baty not too far off as the 3rd most valuable asset on the mets (lindor is 2nd).
Wow, surprised baty is more valuable than Alonso. Is that because of the position he plays?
It’s because Alonso is soon to be a UFA and is going to be paid market value. With Baty you get 5 years or so of cheap control.
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interestingly the trade value simulator that's supposedly accurate on like 90% of real trades has Alvarez as the most valuable asset on the mets and more valuable than ohtani's remaining half year, but baty not too far off as the 3rd most valuable asset on the mets (lindor is 2nd).
Wow, surprised baty is more valuable than Alonso. Is that because of the position he plays?
Probably years of control.
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has been combined over 8 fWAR the past two years.
It's a long shot that Alvarez ever sniffs 8 fWAR.
The highest recorded catcher fWAR ever for a season is Johnny Bench and Gary Carter at 8.6. Ever.
Age is the only advantage Alvarez has.
Someone is smoking crack, only it's not who you think.
Be patient Daniel-san. You can have both come this off-season and give up nothing other than $$$. Glad you aren't running the team.
Absolutely, if he hits free agency and he's not a Met it's because he doesn't want to be. IMO.
that wasn't the question asked by danny though.
About time we see that lineup
Your lips to....Bucks ears I guess. Is it to much to ask for this lineup to hit 5 HRs and get 10 runs tonight so we don't hear any more excuses?
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this is what it should look like the majority of the time, with vogey and escobar coming in on days when canha and marte specifically need rest. just let this group get a month as the A lineup at least twice per series.
Your lips to....Bucks ears I guess. Is it to much to ask for this lineup to hit 5 HRs and get 10 runs tonight so we don't hear any more excuses?
facing bassitt so ill settle for 4 runs in 2 or 3 innings with him barking at his catcher like he ended last year.
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this is what it should look like the majority of the time, with vogey and escobar coming in on days when canha and marte specifically need rest. just let this group get a month as the A lineup at least twice per series.
Your lips to....Bucks ears I guess. Is it to much to ask for this lineup to hit 5 HRs and get 10 runs tonight so we don't hear any more excuses?
facing bassitt so ill settle for 4 runs in 2 or 3 innings with him barking at his catcher like he ended last year.
Haha yeah I wasn't really expecting that much but in reality it would be nice to both knock Bassitt out early and also show how potent this lineup could be. That means we're getting 5 hits 1 run tonight.
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Mets closer Edwin Díaz (recovery from knee surgery) says he has been running/jogging in addition to his work on a stationary bike. "Everything is feeling great," said Díaz, who is closing in on three months removed from his operation.
3 months from today would be a mighty nice time to get timmy trumpets back in the building live.
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According to Mets GM Billy Eppler, Ronny Mauricio started learning left field yesterday.
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According to Mets GM Billy Eppler, Ronny Mauricio started learning left field yesterday.
Something obvious and that we have discussed all season. Mets staff finally gets to it on June 2.
Senga will be pitching on normal rest for the first time this season.
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It is TBD wonder if they do a bullpen game, or bring someone up. Moving Senga to Tuesday would give him 6 days rest (rather than the 4 days he would have if he started Sunday). It would also let them go Senga, Scherzer, Verlander if they wanted vs. the Braves.
Senga will be pitching on normal rest for the first time this season.
Got ya. Thanks. 2 off days this week will give him the extra rest after that start. Hopefully he isn’t affected by the normal rest