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Relive the 1986 season

truebluelarry : 6/2/2023 7:14 am
Can't think of a better way to spend a Friday morning than enjoying NFL Films highlights of the Giants first Super Bowl season.

Road to the Super Bowl 1986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VatK4xPq8GA

Super Bowl XXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJkiEwc8U98

The full season video is a good one, as it give a broad flavor of what happened in the league that year and goes right up through the conference championships.
As an aside,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/2/2023 8:01 am : link
the Giants battles with the Eagles and Skins in the mid to late ‘80s, early ‘90s were two of my favorite rivalries ever. Classic, imv
86 Championship Game  
JaxGiant : 6/2/2023 8:15 am : link
How come I can never find the full game anywhere against the Skins? I never had a chance to see the game and would love to.
RE: 86 Championship Game  
truebluelarry : 6/2/2023 8:17 am : link
In comment 16126628 JaxGiant said:
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How come I can never find the full game anywhere against the Skins? I never had a chance to see the game and would love to.


It is part of the 10 Greatest Giants Games DVD set that was put out 11 or 12 years ago. Check eBay for a copy. It has all the playoff games and Super Bowls from 1986 & 1990 on there plus a couple of others like 41-0 over Minnesota.
Thanks Larry  
Matt in SGS : 6/2/2023 8:45 am : link
for that road to the Super Bowl, I have the original version that I recorded and the music is different. The highlights and narration are the same though.
I don't think I will ever see another Giants team equal to that one  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2023 10:29 am : link
Late in the year they became just an absolute juggernaut, crushing everyone in their path.
Magical season.  
Klaatu : 6/2/2023 10:30 am : link
Vindication for all those years of futility, with some of the most memorable plays in Giants history.
RE: 86 Championship Game  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16126628 JaxGiant said:
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How come I can never find the full game anywhere against the Skins? I never had a chance to see the game and would love to.


That fourth quarter was wild. The party was going on pretty much from the end of the third even though the lead was only 17 points. That's how good that defense was - everyone knew the Skins weren't going to do anything on offense. The lead might as well have been 50 points.
Too bad the Giants didn't get the Bears in the NFC Title Game at  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2023 10:50 am : link
Giants Stadium. It would've been VERY gratifying to kick their @$$es up and down the Jersey Turnpike as payback for the previous season. Those turkeys somehow think 86 was a "missing ring" for them, lol. Losing Jim McMahon was supposedly the difference to them.
RE: Too bad the Giants didn't get the Bears in the NFC Title Game at  
Klaatu : 6/2/2023 10:55 am : link
In comment 16126704 Optimus-NY said:
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Giants Stadium. It would've been VERY gratifying to kick their @$$es up and down the Jersey Turnpike as payback for the previous season. Those turkeys somehow think 86 was a "missing ring" for them, lol. Losing Jim McMahon was supposedly the difference to them.


I was pissed they didn't get to play the Browns in the Super Bowl.
RE: Too bad the Giants didn't get the Bears in the NFC Title Game at  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2023 11:02 am : link
In comment 16126704 Optimus-NY said:
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Giants Stadium. It would've been VERY gratifying to kick their @$$es up and down the Jersey Turnpike as payback for the previous season. Those turkeys somehow think 86 was a "missing ring" for them, lol. Losing Jim McMahon was supposedly the difference to them.


+infinity...I've heard this nonsense so many times and it really burns my ass. The Bears had zero chance of coming into Giants Stadium in January 1987 and winning. The Niners got blown the hell out 49-3 and Jim fuckin' McMahon would have beaten them? My fat ass he would have.

The 1986 Bears were a paper tiger benefitting from one of the worst divisions, and therefore weakest schedules, in NFL history.
RE: RE: Too bad the Giants didn't get the Bears in the NFC Title Game at  
truebluelarry : 6/2/2023 11:10 am : link
In comment 16126715 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 16126704 Optimus-NY said:


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Giants Stadium. It would've been VERY gratifying to kick their @$$es up and down the Jersey Turnpike as payback for the previous season. Those turkeys somehow think 86 was a "missing ring" for them, lol. Losing Jim McMahon was supposedly the difference to them.



+infinity...I've heard this nonsense so many times and it really burns my ass. The Bears had zero chance of coming into Giants Stadium in January 1987 and winning. The Niners got blown the hell out 49-3 and Jim fuckin' McMahon would have beaten them? My fat ass he would have.

The 1986 Bears were a paper tiger benefitting from one of the worst divisions, and therefore weakest schedules, in NFL history.


Truth.

Washington was the second best team in the NFL that year. and they whipped the Bears in Chicago the week before coming to the Meadowlands to face the Giants.
RE: I don't think I will ever see another Giants team equal to that one  
djm : 6/2/2023 11:37 am : link
In comment 16126689 Greg from LI said:
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Late in the year they became just an absolute juggernaut, crushing everyone in their path.


That 86 team was one of the most dominant NFL teams ever let alone NYG teams. Their margin of victory from around mid December (win at RFK) through Pasadena was nothing short of historically good.
RE: RE: Too bad the Giants didn't get the Bears in the NFC Title Game at  
Optimus-NY : 6/2/2023 11:46 am : link
In comment 16126715 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 16126704 Optimus-NY said:


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Giants Stadium. It would've been VERY gratifying to kick their @$$es up and down the Jersey Turnpike as payback for the previous season. Those turkeys somehow think 86 was a "missing ring" for them, lol. Losing Jim McMahon was supposedly the difference to them.



+infinity...I've heard this nonsense so many times and it really burns my ass. The Bears had zero chance of coming into Giants Stadium in January 1987 and winning. The Niners got blown the hell out 49-3 and Jim fuckin' McMahon would have beaten them? My fat ass he would have.

The 1986 Bears were a paper tiger benefitting from one of the worst divisions, and therefore weakest schedules, in NFL history.


Remember this?
Green Bay Packers vs Chicago Bears (11-23-1986) "Charles Martin's Cheapshot On Jim McMahon"

Even if the Bears had McMahon, they still weren't gonna beat the giants. Hell, I don't think they would've beaten the 'Skins either. I remember that midget Otis Wilson talking smack about how the Bears would've beaten the Giants in the NFC Title Game in January of '87 if they played after the Bears beat the Giants almost 8 months later by the score of 34-19 in the 1987 regular season opener on MNF at Soldier field. They were awfully chatty that night in the Postgame interviews.
The Captain  
PatersonPlank : 6/2/2023 12:10 pm : link
RE: The Captain  
Klaatu : 6/2/2023 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16126749 PatersonPlank said:
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If that doesn't scream BADASS, nothing does.
Two things that happened before the game  
Beezer : 6/2/2023 2:20 pm : link
that had me and my Dad fired up.

1. McConkey screaming out of the tunnel waving the towel and knocking over the pylon ...

and 2. Harry coming out alone for the toss.

Not going to say we KNEW the Giants would win, but those things gave it a feel.
I've written this post many times before  
Greg from LI : 6/2/2023 2:50 pm : link
But....the 1986 NFC Central the Bears faced was comprised of:

Minnesota (9-7)
Detroit (5-11)
Green Bay (4-12)
Tampa Bay (2-14)

Tampa was not only 2-14, but they were arguably the worst team of the '80s, with an astonishing point differential of -234.

In their last seven games, including the playoff loss to the Skins, the Bears turned the ball over an unbelievable 28 times.

And, again, the Giants allowed all of 3 points in two games against the strong offenses of Washington and SF. The Bears offense, after scoring 44 against Cincinnati in week four, only topped 23 points once - at home against the putrid Bucs, whose defense was easily the worst in football. With Jim McMahon, they wouldn't have done much against the Giants. With Flutie, who started in the playoffs, they wouldn't have scored if they had played ten quarters.

Another way of looking at it - the Giants in the playoffs faced the #6 scoring offense (Broncos), #7 (Niners), and #9 (Skins), and allowed a grand total of 23 points. Seven of those came via a meaningless garbage time Gary Kubiak touchdown pass against the Giants backups when the Super Bowl was 39-13 with a couple of minutes to go. But sure, Jim McMahon would have beaten them.
NY Giants Camelot  
arniefez : 6/2/2023 2:56 pm : link
The 1986 Giants would have beaten the 1986 Bears 10 times out of 10 in New Jersey even if as Parcells used to say, they played them in parking lot of free.

At the time of the 1986 NFL season NFC Championship game you could have brought in the Lombardi Packers or the Noll Steelers or the Madden Raiders and or any other Super Bowl era team you want to name, they weren't beating the Giants in the Meadowlands.
The 31 year wait was worth the game  
Sec 103 : 6/2/2023 4:22 pm : link
Still best Super Bowl I have ever witnessed.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/2/2023 6:52 pm : link
I never understood the 'Bears would have beaten the Giants in the '86 NFC title game' stance. If the Bears couldn't beat WFT-who we handled-how the F is Chicago beating us?

The NFC North sucked in the '80s, thus the Bears winning the division each season. & the one season post '85 in the '80s where the Bears had some postseason success consisted of them winning the 'Fog Bowl' vs. the Eagles before getting their asses kicked @ home by Walsh & SF.
1986 Bears  
Matt in SGS : 6/2/2023 9:01 pm : link
had Doug Flutie at QB and were by far the worst offense of the NFC playoff teams. Had they made it past Washington, unless they were able to force a turnover, they could have played 8 quarters at Giants Stadium and they wouldn't have scored a point against the Giants defense.
Matt in SGS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/3/2023 11:20 am : link
I watched the 30 for 30 for on the '80s Bears. Man, did the defense hate Flutie. Well, not Flutie so much, as Ditka for having him be the starter. Tomczak was their dude.
I was stationed in Missouri  
Mayo2JZ : 6/3/2023 5:26 pm : link
that season and I went to all the key games that year starting off with the first games in Dallas when Joe Morris held out, the game in NY when we beat Denver on that George Martin int and the Dallas game when they broke Danny Whites's arm/wrist? Of course the big game in Manny and that 4th and 17 play! I made it to one playoff game when we completely demolished SF and I was in the corner of the end zone where LT ran in the INT. Me and my buddy even made their highlight film for 1986! What a magical year!!
RE: NY Giants Camelot  
Mayo2JZ : 6/3/2023 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16126818 arniefez said:
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The 1986 Giants would have beaten the 1986 Bears 10 times out of 10 in New Jersey even if as Parcells used to say, they played them in parking lot of free.

At the time of the 1986 NFL season NFC Championship game you could have brought in the Lombardi Packers or the Noll Steelers or the Madden Raiders and or any other Super Bowl era team you want to name, they weren't beating the Giants in the Meadowlands.


But would we have beaten the '85 Bears?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/3/2023 6:37 pm : link
Hell, the '85 Giants made the '85 Bears sweat-a little @ least-in the divisional game. Of the 3 Bears wins that postseason, our game was the most competitive.
Rewatching the America's Game on the '86 Giants.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/3/2023 6:46 pm : link
Good Lord...did we knock the shit out of Montana in '86 & '90. We had to have given him the biggest fits in his career.
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