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NFT: Wisconsin burger- call out to CRinCA

Bill in UT : 6/3/2023 9:11 pm
Chuck sent me a recipe a few days ago for a Wisconsin burger. I already had a different recipe for a Wisconsin burger, but it looked like they could be combined with a good outcome. I was right. Thanks for putting me onto it, Chuck

Bill's and Chuck's Wisconsin Butter Burger

1 pound ground beef
1 C Beef stock
6-8 Tbs butter
1 onion, sliced
Buns
Cheese, optional

Flatten the beef into 4 1/4 pounders, smashed. Sprinkle salt and pepper on both sides
Cook onion in butter, with a little salt and pepper, over medium heat, until browned, then add stock. Bring to a simmer
Poach burgers til not pink on edges. Flip and add cheese if you want. Cover if cheese is added.
Serve with cooked onion

Please not that you'll need a bun that can handle some moisture.
Nice one.  
smshmth8690 : 6/3/2023 11:22 pm : link
So you don't sear the burger, just poach?
Kind of like a French Onion burger.
Kaiser  
TrevorC : 6/3/2023 11:47 pm : link
Would prob work best. Ciabatta too, but then its less a burger.

Doesn't sound like something I would order, but if made for me and given a bibb I wouldnt hate that!
RE: Nice one.  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 1:10 am : link
In comment 16127339 smshmth8690 said:
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So you don't sear the burger, just poach?
Kind of like a French Onion burger.


yeah, the process is contrary to what I always do, but the burger was pretty good
RE: Kaiser  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 1:12 am : link
In comment 16127342 TrevorC said:
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Would prob work best. Ciabatta too, but then its less a burger.

Doesn't sound like something I would order, but if made for me and given a bibb I wouldnt hate that!


I'm good with ciabatta or English muffin with a burger, but I try to stay low carb, so I had it on some low carb bread. The burger was good, tho
Sounds great  
TXRabbit : 6/4/2023 9:01 am : link
I'm totally okay with open-faced burgers too. Have you had a proper New Mexico burger? (hatch chilis, onions, yellow mustard) served open-faced
How about a Steamed Cheeseburger?  
Giant16 : 6/4/2023 9:07 am : link
First of all - love the NFT, food threads! Adding some info which reference the first hamburger at Louis' Lunch in New Haven and steamed "hamburgs" in Meriden CT. Have a great Sunday & keep cooking and sharing!
Link - ( New Window )
Speaking of Wisconsin burgers  
Dr. D : 6/4/2023 10:09 am : link
Have you guys had Culver's (from WI)?

One opened near us about 2 yrs ago. I think it blows away all other fast food burgers, that i know of.

The new Culver's is right down street from my father in laws, so I will never cook burgers when he comes over. I can't compete with Culver's!
RE: Speaking of Wisconsin burgers  
TXRabbit : 6/4/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16127413 Dr. D said:
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Have you guys had Culver's (from WI)?

One opened near us about 2 yrs ago. I think it blows away all other fast food burgers, that i know of.

The new Culver's is right down street from my father in laws, so I will never cook burgers when he comes over. I can't compete with Culver's!


Thanks for the info. I looked on G and see a few locations in North Texas now.
RE: Speaking of Wisconsin burgers  
Servo 2.0 : 6/4/2023 10:42 am : link
In comment 16127413 Dr. D said:
Quote:
Have you guys had Culver's (from WI)?

One opened near us about 2 yrs ago. I think it blows away all other fast food burgers, that i know of.

The new Culver's is right down street from my father in laws, so I will never cook burgers when he comes over. I can't compete with Culver's!


Culver’s is amazing. The burgers, the custard, the cheese curds, the fish fry—everything is top notch. Try the cheddar pub BBQ burger they are offering at the moment. Delicious!
I've got a Culver's  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 10:58 am : link
just a couple of miles from me. Never been there. Maybe I'll try them
Respectfully, these recipes  
Daniel in MI : 6/4/2023 11:08 am : link
Make no sense to me. Am I missing something? Why would I steam or poach a burger and lose all the flavor from the Maillard reaction?

The cooked onion and butter as a topping? Yes, please. Finish my browned burger in the juice? Ok, let’s try. But poaching or steaming as the primary cooking method without browning is kinda like going sou vide without searing at the end. You’re leaving a lot of delicious off the table from my pov.
I cry foul!  
Jim in Fairfax : 6/4/2023 11:14 am : link
A true Wisconsin burger would not be “cheese optional”.
Bill- lol  
CRinCA : 6/4/2023 12:12 pm : link
The credit is all yours! All I did was pass along what was a curious/unknown to me method of cooking a burger. For the record, cheese is never “optional” on a burger for me, it’s a must!

On a related note, I stumbled across another burger variation recently, this one from Michigan, which includes green olives. I have a friend in Ann Arbor who swears by them. This is on my list to try as well.

https://www.tastingtable.com/1209091/what-makes-michigans-beloved-olive-burger-unique/
RE: How about a Steamed Cheeseburger?  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 12:51 pm : link
In comment 16127397 Giant16 said:
Quote:
First of all - love the NFT, food threads! Adding some info which reference the first hamburger at Louis' Lunch in New Haven and steamed "hamburgs" in Meriden CT. Have a great Sunday & keep cooking and sharing! Link - ( New Window )


I watched a video and looked at a recipe. Probably something I'd have to make for myself for lunch- Mrs. in UT doesn't like cheeseburgers, pickles or raw onion :) I think I could just do it on a plate in a steamer, rather than buying the equipment they use. Thanks for the heads-up
RE: Respectfully, these recipes  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 12:55 pm : link
In comment 16127437 Daniel in MI said:
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Make no sense to me. Am I missing something? Why would I steam or poach a burger and lose all the flavor from the Maillard reaction?

The cooked onion and butter as a topping? Yes, please. Finish my browned burger in the juice? Ok, let’s try. But poaching or steaming as the primary cooking method without browning is kinda like going sou vide without searing at the end. You’re leaving a lot of delicious off the table from my pov.


To answer your question, you're missing an opportunity to experiment with different techniques/approaches. Many roads lead to delicious. I do many things with beef/ground beef that don't involve searing, from meatloaf, to drop meatballs, to stuffed cabbage, to stews and braises and they all taste great.
RE: I cry foul!  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 12:56 pm : link
In comment 16127439 Jim in Fairfax said:
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A true Wisconsin burger would not be “cheese optional”.


that's probably true. Sorry :)
RE: Bill- lol  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16127465 CRinCA said:
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The credit is all yours! All I did was pass along what was a curious/unknown to me method of cooking a burger. For the record, cheese is never “optional” on a burger for me, it’s a must!

On a related note, I stumbled across another burger variation recently, this one from Michigan, which includes green olives. I have a friend in Ann Arbor who swears by them. This is on my list to try as well.

https://www.tastingtable.com/1209091/what-makes-michigans-beloved-olive-burger-unique/


well, I do like green olives, mostly surrounded by vodka. I might consider a tapenade for this burger and not have olive slices falling out.
RE: How about a Steamed Cheeseburger?  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 1:37 pm : link
In comment 16127397 Giant16 said:
Quote:
First of all - love the NFT, food threads! Adding some info which reference the first hamburger at Louis' Lunch in New Haven and steamed "hamburgs" in Meriden CT. Have a great Sunday & keep cooking and sharing! Link - ( New Window )


I see that I've got a recipe from ATK for CT steamed cheeseburger, but they mix soy sauce, garlic powder and tomato paste into the ground beef.
RE: I've got a Culver's  
DefenseWins : 6/4/2023 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16127434 Bill in UT said:
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just a couple of miles from me. Never been there. Maybe I'll try them


You should... they do a good job for a chain place
RE: Speaking of Wisconsin burgers  
Bill in UT : 6/4/2023 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16127413 Dr. D said:
Quote:
Have you guys had Culver's (from WI)?

One opened near us about 2 yrs ago. I think it blows away all other fast food burgers, that i know of.

The new Culver's is right down street from my father in laws, so I will never cook burgers when he comes over. I can't compete with Culver's!


I just looked at their website- the burgers look nothing like the 2 recipes I referenced. No beef stock, as far as I can tell, no cooked onion. It looks like just a seared burger patty, American cheese, and a buttered/toasted bun. But I guess it works. Just seems easy enough to make at home.
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