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Esiason - expects Giants' Daniel Jones to have a rough year

ThomasG : 6/4/2023 7:46 am
Some comments made from Boomer during his WFAN morning show and noted in the short article:

Former NFL MVP Boomer Esiason sees Jones continuing to be average — and even struggling — claiming that the team has not done enough to add weapons around him.

He (Boomer) still sees Jones a player who will have to use his legs to get the Giants down the field.

“I think Daniel Jones is gonna have another rough year in terms of him having to do a lot,” Boomer said. “They’re paying him to do a lot. To be able to fit another wide receiver, I don’t see it.”

Boomer Esiason expects Giants' Daniel Jones to have a 'rough year' - ( New Window )
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If by rough year  
mittenedman : 6/4/2023 7:51 am : link
he means another playoff season, then yes.
Seems to be a  
section125 : 6/4/2023 7:53 am : link
vindictive SOB.
WFAN  
Mike in NY : 6/4/2023 8:00 am : link
Giants should pull their affiliation and publicly denounce all of the Jets homers
If any QB would know about sucking,  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/4/2023 8:06 am : link
it'd be Boomer.
Giants  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2023 8:08 am : link
may take a step backwards given their competition, but Daniel Jones should take another step forward.

He's in the second year of the system with the same coaching staff.

His TE targets are very good.

He has legitimate NFL targets now at WR.

His OL should be much better.

Weird take by Boomer.
They didn’t add a stud receiver but I don’t see how anyone  
Mike in NJ : 6/4/2023 8:14 am : link
Can look at the moves the Giants made this off-season (Waller, Campbell, Hyatt, JMS) and not say the team has gotten much better offensively.

Are they going to be a top 10 offense? Probably not, but the level of talent has been raised significantly over last year. Claiming otherwise just reeks of bias.
Just cancel the season  
Gman11 : 6/4/2023 8:14 am : link
because a guy with a dog's name said it's going to be bad.
......  
Klaatu : 6/4/2023 8:16 am : link
Boomer is a Jet homer....  
George from PA : 6/4/2023 8:17 am : link
I think it's more likely Jones out perform Rodgers...

Higher competition will only force the Giants to score more points, which usually pad QB statistics
We know Boomer hasn't exactly been an admirer of the Giants  
ThomasG : 6/4/2023 8:18 am : link
but difficult to say they haven't upgraded the weapons around him.

Putting Waller and Campbell in place this year, 2nd round pick W. Robinson last year and middle round pick in Bellinger, 3rd round pick Hyatt this year that Schoen was willing to take in Rd 2. Schmitz may struggle some as a rookie Center but should be an upgrade versus what they had in front of Jones in previous years.

This may not be an explosive offense but feels like any neutral observer would say Jones has far more around him this year than last.
Boomer is a Jet homer....  
George from PA : 6/4/2023 8:18 am : link
I think it's more likely Jones out perform Rodgers...

Higher competition will only force the Giants to score more points, which usually pad QB statistics
RE: They didn’t add a stud receiver but I don’t see how anyone  
section125 : 6/4/2023 8:19 am : link
In comment 16127369 Mike in NJ said:
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Can look at the moves the Giants made this off-season (Waller, Campbell, Hyatt, JMS) and not say the team has gotten much better offensively.

Are they going to be a top 10 offense? Probably not, but the level of talent has been raised significantly over last year. Claiming otherwise just reeks of bias.


Waller isn't a stud? Yes, no Ja'marr Chase or Stefan Diggs, but Waller can certainly cause headaches - like Kelce and Kittle. We also do not know just what Hyatt will bring.
Crappy headline  
Matt123 : 6/4/2023 8:20 am : link
“I think Daniel Jones is gonna have another rough year in terms of him having to do a lot. They’re paying him to do a lot. To be able to fit another wide receiver, I don’t see it.”
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/4/2023 8:20 am : link
WFAN carries Giants game & I don't believe one host on the station roots for the team. Just wild. Imagine WEII not having one Patriots fan as a host.
Boomer and WFAN criticizing the Giants?  
Drewcon40 : 6/4/2023 8:28 am : link
Hmmm I’m shocked because they have always been so fair. I mean they criticize every move the great Joe Douglas makes. The media seems so even in their coverage. Surely, you jest.
Another misleading title  
JoeSchoens11 : 6/4/2023 8:28 am : link
Boomer’s ‘rough year’ comment:

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I think Daniel Jones is gonna have another rough year in terms of him having to do a lot,


He’s saying that the wr corp isn’t good enough to make DJs job as easy as others. Through that lens, being average statistically makes sense and can even be considered impressive…especially with a very tough schedule this year.

RE: ...  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/4/2023 8:29 am : link
In comment 16127378 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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WFAN carries Giants game & I don't believe one host on the station roots for the team. Just wild. Imagine WEII not having one Patriots fan as a host.


Yep. Just another great thing about having two teams in town for each sport. Would be awesome to wipe those second teams away.
As the article said  
HBart : 6/4/2023 8:33 am : link
"What Esiason is looking at is not clear. The Giants have a slew of very capable — and potentially explosive options — on their roster starting with tight end Darren Waller, running back Saquon Barkley and wide receivers Isaiah Hodgins and Wan’Dale Robinson." (I'd put Campbell and Hyayt ahead of those guys).

As Eric said, I could see the Giants regressing because of schedule and the division but not a single tea leaf pointing to a Jones regression.

Esiason is so brilliant he's seeing things other's can't, is an idiot, and/or didn't do any homework at all.
Screw that oversized head Norwegian Jet homer  
Sec 103 : 6/4/2023 8:34 am : link
First Simms, then Eli, now Jones.
Fuck off boom!
Esiason is an insufferable  
redwhiteandbigblue : 6/4/2023 8:42 am : link
asshole. Rarely has a good word about the Giants and when he does, there is always a "but...".

Boggles my mind that FAN calls itself "The Flagship Station of the NY Giants" All they do is carry the games. As many point out, almost none of the hosts are Giant fans. With Boomer and later in the afternoon with Carton, if the Jets win (even if they lose) and the Giants win, they talk Giants for 10 minutes and the rest of the hour talk Jets.

Flagship station of the Giants, my ass.
What does 'another' mean?  
SamdaGiantsFan : 6/4/2023 8:43 am : link
the use of that word makes me not want to read any further
Would  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2023 8:45 am : link
anyone here be shocked if Daniel Jones outplays Aaron Rodgers? Not me.
I don't understand why people get worked up over things like this.  
robbieballs2003 : 6/4/2023 8:54 am : link
Everyone has opinions. Stop listening to and linking them for others to see and we'll see the tide turn. The problem is people still fall for the shock value.
RE: Would  
ChrisRick : 6/4/2023 8:56 am : link
In comment 16127388 Eric from BBI said:
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anyone here be shocked if Daniel Jones outplays Aaron Rodgers? Not me.


I don’t see the big deal with Esiason’s comments. He is basically saying the passing offense does not scare anyone. I don’t see it as a criticism of Jones at all. And I agree with those that are saying crap subject line.
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ChrisRick : 6/4/2023 8:57 am : link
My mistake Eric. I didn’t mean to quote you, my comment was for the entire thread.
RE: I don't understand why people get worked up over things like this.  
BigBlueShock : 6/4/2023 8:57 am : link
In comment 16127389 robbieballs2003 said:
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Everyone has opinions. Stop listening to and linking them for others to see and we'll see the tide turn. The problem is people still fall for the shock value.

I’m not sure anyone is getting “worked up”. It’s ok to discuss and disagree with others’ opinions about the team on a message board that was created for just that…
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ilikethenygiants : 6/4/2023 8:58 am : link
It's always bugged me that WFAN's hosts all root for the Jets, except for Tiki - but since he was a Giant he can't be overly homer-ish or he'll look like a hack.

And I know this isn't about the morning show time - but if you're not listening to DiPietro and Rothenberg, you don't know what you're missing. Rothenberg is the on-air Giants fan we all need in NY.
RE: RE: I don't understand why people get worked up over things like this.  
robbieballs2003 : 6/4/2023 9:05 am : link
In comment 16127393 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16127389 robbieballs2003 said:


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Everyone has opinions. Stop listening to and linking them for others to see and we'll see the tide turn. The problem is people still fall for the shock value.


I’m not sure anyone is getting “worked up”. It’s ok to discuss and disagree with others’ opinions about the team on a message board that was created for just that…


I guess you didn't read the thread.
Have the Giants done “enough”?  
BillT : 6/4/2023 9:13 am : link
Well it’s not a top 10 receiver corps if that’s the standard. But compared to last year it is significantly improved. If DJ could do what he did with that group last year I’m not worried about an improvement based on this year’s talent.
Esiason isn't taking shots at DJ. He is saying with Jones' current  
ThomasG : 6/4/2023 9:16 am : link
receiver corps that Jones will have to do too much himself again.

Esiason is really criticizing Schoen.
RE: Giants  
DefenseWins : 6/4/2023 9:23 am : link
In comment 16127367 Eric from BBI said:
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may take a step backwards given their competition, but Daniel Jones should take another step forward.

He's in the second year of the system with the same coaching staff.

His TE targets are very good.

He has legitimate NFL targets now at WR.

His OL should be much better.

Weird take by Boomer.


Agree with this. Really makes no sense when the team has improved (on paper which means nothing) and he projects that Jones will play worse.

The key here will really be injuries to the pieces around him.
as has been said - sensationalist headline  
wigs in nyc : 6/4/2023 9:28 am : link
I have no love for Boomer Esiason, but essentially all he’s saying here ‘The Giants are still going to rely alot on Daniel Jones’ legs for success’ which seems like a not outlandish, and certainly not personally critical, take.
This is not new for Esiason  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 6/4/2023 9:31 am : link
He went after Eli plenty as well.

At this point on that station there's nothing to listen for except Tiki, and who would have ever thought we would say that.
His opinions regarding the Giants and Jones  
Hammer : 6/4/2023 9:32 am : link
are not the only things that Esiason is wrong about.

He and his partner are two insufferable assholes.

I can't listen to them. They can screw themselves simultaneously.
RE: Seems to be a  
Big Blue '56 : 6/4/2023 9:32 am : link
In comment 16127363 section125 said:
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vindictive SOB.


SEEMS? Nothing new, Giants-related, from this twit..
RE: Esiason isn't taking shots at DJ. He is saying with Jones' current  
BillT : 6/4/2023 9:33 am : link
In comment 16127399 ThomasG said:
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receiver corps that Jones will have to do too much himself again.

Esiason is really criticizing Schoen.

Considering what Schoen inherited at WR/TE that’s not any move valid than criticizing DJ. And Schoen had to upgrade almost every position on the roster not just the receivers.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  
Giant John : 6/4/2023 9:38 am : link
I believe the Giants has improved their talent level. Schedule is tougher so hoping for a record as good as last year. Don’t think too many teams are going to feel that are getting the week off when playing Giants.
Note  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2023 9:41 am : link
how Jones' improved with the late-season addition of Hodgins.

Now add Campbell and Hyatt.

And if anyone of Robinson, Shepard, or Johnson can make it back, the WR group becomes much different.

Beyond that, Waller is the alpha dog of the group. He elevates everyone. And Bellinger as #2? That's fantastic.
RE: RE: Esiason isn't taking shots at DJ. He is saying with Jones' current  
ThomasG : 6/4/2023 9:42 am : link
In comment 16127406 BillT said:
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In comment 16127399 ThomasG said:


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receiver corps that Jones will have to do too much himself again.

Esiason is really criticizing Schoen.


Considering what Schoen inherited at WR/TE that’s not any move valid than criticizing DJ. And Schoen had to upgrade almost every position on the roster not just the receivers.


Agreed. Schoen inherited Jones, Barkley and Thomas on offense and a bloated cap that didn't help with dealing with the rest of the issues.
FYI  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2023 9:44 am : link
I'm going to do an overview of each position on the team in a series of articles after the OTAs. I like to use quotes from the position coaches when I write these and the position coaches will be addressing the media at the June mini-camp.

(BTW, Brandon Brown will also be addressing the media then too).
It feels like, essentially, this boils down to Boomer  
wigs in nyc : 6/4/2023 9:51 am : link
reacting to NYG not going WR in Rd-1.
you are talking about him  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/4/2023 10:11 am : link
mission accomplished
Norman is a jackass  
Tom from LI : 6/4/2023 10:14 am : link
who is unlistenable. I think he was an overrated QB and an even more overrated broadcaster. He hates the Giants. So obvious. Just like we can all say the Jets are going to implode this year. This is all or nothing for them.

If he is basing it on the SOS, he could be in for a surprise. We all know that that does not shake itself out until next season's middle to end. Nobody can predict injuries, or teams flopping. The Eagles might come back to earth. Maybe start off fast and then fall off. It happens.

Now can Jones take a step back? Maybe. More importantly, will the Giants take a step back? More likely, but I doubt it.

Besides the talent deficit last year across the board we have not proven that we can even hang with the Eagles. I think we have closed the gap or even pulled up equal to the cowturds. We were in most of those games with our low end talent. In regards to the WFT, they could be a surprise. On paper they have all of the pieces. Who knows. That is why they play the games.
I don't understand why anybody  
TrevorC : 6/4/2023 10:26 am : link
Or how anybody can listen to NY sports talk radio any more given the content plus all of the available podacsts and sat radio options.

I dont live in the area any more, but there was a period where I rnjoyed the Michael Kay show A LITTLE. Then they hired Rosenberg with his corny act that brought nothing in terms of sports discussion and I found it unbearable. It's too bad LaGreca is stuck with those other two loudmouths. He is a quality sports talk radio persona.

Francesa was annoying for over a decade and a half. I know many eople thought he was a good listen, but I found him tedious and boorish.

I generally have GMFB on in the background while I work, might get into a Little around the nfl and then I just take breaks to read rhis place. Thats plenty.
any  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/4/2023 10:28 am : link
player can take a step forward or back.

But Boomer's reasoning is what makes no sense.
I did not know this  
pjcas18 : 6/4/2023 10:29 am : link
thank you ThomasG for bringing this to our attention.

Has Jones seen it?

Maybe he will opt out of the season to avoid the rough year Boomer predicts that seems a fait accompli.

RE: Giants  
JohnG in Albany : 6/4/2023 10:32 am : link
In comment 16127367 Eric from BBI said:
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may take a step backwards given their competition, but Daniel Jones should take another step forward.

He's in the second year of the system with the same coaching staff.

His TE targets are very good.

He has legitimate NFL targets now at WR.

His OL should be much better.

Weird take by Boomer.


While I'm by no means a fan of Esiason's radio "personality", he's by no means a Jones hater.
RE: Would  
81_Great_Dane : 6/4/2023 10:51 am : link
In comment 16127388 Eric from BBI said:
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anyone here be shocked if Daniel Jones outplays Aaron Rodgers? Not me.
Not me, either, because Rodgers is starting to break down physically and probably won’t be able to play at his accustomed level for the whole season. If they’re both healthy, Rodgers is Rodgers and we don’t know how good DJ can be.

DJ seems to be learning to avoid injury, as much as an NFL QB can.
RE: RE: Would  
PatersonPlank : 6/4/2023 10:56 am : link
In comment 16127431 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 16127388 Eric from BBI said:


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anyone here be shocked if Daniel Jones outplays Aaron Rodgers? Not me.

Not me, either, because Rodgers is starting to break down physically and probably won’t be able to play at his accustomed level for the whole season. If they’re both healthy, Rodgers is Rodgers and we don’t know how good DJ can be.

DJ seems to be learning to avoid injury, as much as an NFL QB can.


Rodgers is on the 18th green of his career, and he wasn't really that good last year. I understand the Jets sucked at the QB position, but I don't think personally that going with Rodgers now is a good thing for them. I'd actually not be surprised if he gets banged up and retires, putting them back with Wilson again
When people discuss Rodgers  
UConn4523 : 6/4/2023 11:03 am : link
why does the state of the Packer offense never come up when saying he wasn’t good last year? That WR/TE group rivaled ours for bottom of the league.

As for Boomer, don’t mind him and in general if not bothered by radio not overly supportive of the Giants. It’s sometimes more fun to hear the other side.
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