Some comments made from Boomer during his WFAN morning show and noted in the short article:
Former NFL MVP Boomer Esiason sees Jones continuing to be average — and even struggling — claiming that the team has not done enough to add weapons around him.
He (Boomer) still sees Jones a player who will have to use his legs to get the Giants down the field.
“I think Daniel Jones is gonna have another rough year in terms of him having to do a lot,” Boomer said. “They’re paying him to do a lot. To be able to fit another wide receiver, I don’t see it.”
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Call me crazy, but I'm kind of expecting it.
He's in the second year of the system with the same coaching staff.
His TE targets are very good.
He has legitimate NFL targets now at WR.
His OL should be much better.
Weird take by Boomer.
I still that our WR are bottom 3 in the NFL (if you classify DW as a TE). That said he will again have to dink and dunk down the field and we will then hear his yards per attempt suck. Eric, how you think we have quality Wr targets is beyond me.
Yup
But Boomer's reasoning is what makes no sense.
Did you read the article? Nothing he said even hinted at Jones taking a step back, his entire point was that they haven’t surrounded him with enough weapons, specifically a true #1 WR and that as a result it will be rough on Jones and he will have to do a lot with his legs again this season.
If he was criticizing anyone it was Schoen
Most of us likely disagree with him, but it's not really a knock on DJ. I don't think he is giving enough credit to the impact Waller will have. Especially since we have two very legit TEs that will be catching passes now. Personally I am more worried about the OL progressing than Jones.
Esiason doesn’t like Jones’ chances to take that leap this year without a true “No. 1” wide receiver — an element that general manager Joe Schoen says is not necessary to win a championship (see: Kansas City Chiefs).
It seems pretty clear that Easiason thinks Jones is still hamstrung by the organization not bringing in enough quality. Note the: "...Lamar Jackson of the Giants..." That sounds pretty complimentary to me.
You may not agree with that assessment, which is debatable, but he's not saying Jones is the problem going forward.
Failure to read beyond a headline continues to be a problem for this board...
The guy is worth 10s of millions and he gets really pissed off when someone gets a 100mm+ contract
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“When you look at the group of players around him, you could say he’s the Lamar Jackson of the Giants,” Boomer added. “That had always been the argument around the Ravens, that they were a run-first team, they were using his legs as opposed to his arm, and now all of a sudden they add all these receivers and Lamar Jackson says he wants to throw for 6,000 yards.”
Esiason doesn’t like Jones’ chances to take that leap this year without a true “No. 1” wide receiver — an element that general manager Joe Schoen says is not necessary to win a championship (see: Kansas City Chiefs).
It seems pretty clear that Easiason thinks Jones is still hamstrung by the organization not bringing in enough quality. Note the: "...Lamar Jackson of the Giants..." That sounds pretty complimentary to me.
You may not agree with that assessment, which is debatable, but he's not saying Jones is the problem going forward.
Failure to read beyond a headline continues to be a problem for this board...
You’re objective takes are not welcome..:)
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“When you look at the group of players around him, you could say he’s the Lamar Jackson of the Giants,” Boomer added. “That had always been the argument around the Ravens, that they were a run-first team, they were using his legs as opposed to his arm, and now all of a sudden they add all these receivers and Lamar Jackson says he wants to throw for 6,000 yards.”
Esiason doesn’t like Jones’ chances to take that leap this year without a true “No. 1” wide receiver — an element that general manager Joe Schoen says is not necessary to win a championship (see: Kansas City Chiefs).l
It seems pretty clear that Easiason thinks Jones is still hamstrung by the organization not bringing in enough quality. Note the: "...Lamar Jackson of the Giants..." That sounds pretty complimentary to me.
You may not agree with that assessment, which is debatable, but he's not saying Jones is the problem going forward.
Failure to read beyond a headline continues to be a problem for this board...
Im sorry, but I don't agree with that interpretation at all.
Which other WR options were available in FA that would have satisfied those that bang the table for a number 1?
How is investing in Waller (who averages 850 yards and 5TDs over the last 4 seasons) and a 3rd round pick who many think could be the steal of the draft, hamstringing Jones' production?
Not to mention a 2nd rounder last year who looked promising before getting hurt as well as a very talented albeit banged up former 2nd rounder who had a strong year last year.
This idea that the Giants org is holding back weapons for Jones has absolutely no merit. Who should they have gone after? DJ Moore cost a lot. Jeudy was being dangled for a 2nd for 2 years of control. OBJ?
The Giants prioritized defense this offseason because thats where the value was and in the flow of things, scored a starting center as well as accruing a ton of speed at WR to go with their big guys. Boomer is a blowhard whose football opinions are basically compost.
It's amazing how people fall for this all the time
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“When you look at the group of players around him, you could say he’s the Lamar Jackson of the Giants,” Boomer added. “That had always been the argument around the Ravens, that they were a run-first team, they were using his legs as opposed to his arm, and now all of a sudden they add all these receivers and Lamar Jackson says he wants to throw for 6,000 yards.”
Esiason doesn’t like Jones’ chances to take that leap this year without a true “No. 1” wide receiver — an element that general manager Joe Schoen says is not necessary to win a championship (see: Kansas City Chiefs).l
It seems pretty clear that Easiason thinks Jones is still hamstrung by the organization not bringing in enough quality. Note the: "...Lamar Jackson of the Giants..." That sounds pretty complimentary to me.
You may not agree with that assessment, which is debatable, but he's not saying Jones is the problem going forward.
Failure to read beyond a headline continues to be a problem for this board...
Im sorry, but I don't agree with that interpretation at all.
Which other WR options were available in FA that would have satisfied those that bang the table for a number 1?
How is investing in Waller (who averages 850 yards and 5TDs over the last 4 seasons) and a 3rd round pick who many think could be the steal of the draft, hamstringing Jones' production?
Not to mention a 2nd rounder last year who looked promising before getting hurt as well as a very talented albeit banged up former 2nd rounder who had a strong year last year.
This idea that the Giants org is holding back weapons for Jones has absolutely no merit. Who should they have gone after? DJ Moore cost a lot. Jeudy was being dangled for a 2nd for 2 years of control. OBJ?
The Giants prioritized defense this offseason because thats where the value was and in the flow of things, scored a starting center as well as accruing a ton of speed at WR to go with their big guys. Boomer is a blowhard whose football opinions are basically compost.
And even bigger than a splooge WR signing was the drafting of a C who actually plays C and is probably more important for DJ’s growth than a WR..And we are fine at the receiving position with Waller, et al..
Spread them out. It is amazing the simultaneous speed pressure this offense can apply to both flanks and over the top while creating interior space for the likes of Hodgins, Bellinger and Robinson.
And if all else fails, DJ legs should make it difficult to get us off the field.
Im sorry, but I don't agree with that interpretation at all.
Which other WR options were available in FA that would have satisfied those that bang the table for a number 1?
How is investing in Waller (who averages 850 yards and 5TDs over the last 4 seasons) and a 3rd round pick who many think could be the steal of the draft, hamstringing Jones' production?
Not to mention a 2nd rounder last year who looked promising before getting hurt as well as a very talented albeit banged up former 2nd rounder who had a strong year last year.
This idea that the Giants org is holding back weapons for Jones has absolutely no merit. Who should they have gone after? DJ Moore cost a lot. Jeudy was being dangled for a 2nd for 2 years of control. OBJ?
The Giants prioritized defense this offseason because thats where the value was and in the flow of things, scored a starting center as well as accruing a ton of speed at WR to go with their big guys. Boomer is a blowhard whose football opinions are basically compost.
You don't agree with my interpretation of the article or Esiason's assessment of the situation?
I understand what the brass did and didn't do (so far) in the offseason. The point is Esiason thinks Jones needs better tools to compete for bigger prizes. And like I said, that is debatable. But it's an unreasonable position for Esiason to take.
I bet Esiason would change his mind, for example, if Schoen acquires Hopkins. Because Hopkins would satisfy his theory that Jones needs a WR1.
Spread them out. It is amazing the simultaneous speed pressure this offense can apply to both flanks and over the top while creating interior space for the likes of Hodgins, Bellinger and Robinson.
And if all else fails, DJ legs should make it difficult to get us off the field.
100% agree with everything brother Bob said here. No need to be redundant.
This is really what it comes down to. The guy is obsessed with money. I’ve yet to hear him talk about Gerrit Cole without immediately referencing his contract, so it crosses over to other sports too.
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Im sorry, but I don't agree with that interpretation at all.
Which other WR options were available in FA that would have satisfied those that bang the table for a number 1?
How is investing in Waller (who averages 850 yards and 5TDs over the last 4 seasons) and a 3rd round pick who many think could be the steal of the draft, hamstringing Jones' production?
Not to mention a 2nd rounder last year who looked promising before getting hurt as well as a very talented albeit banged up former 2nd rounder who had a strong year last year.
This idea that the Giants org is holding back weapons for Jones has absolutely no merit. Who should they have gone after? DJ Moore cost a lot. Jeudy was being dangled for a 2nd for 2 years of control. OBJ?
The Giants prioritized defense this offseason because thats where the value was and in the flow of things, scored a starting center as well as accruing a ton of speed at WR to go with their big guys. Boomer is a blowhard whose football opinions are basically compost.
You don't agree with my interpretation of the article or Esiason's assessment of the situation?
I understand what the brass did and didn't do (so far) in the offseason. The point is Esiason thinks Jones needs better tools to compete for bigger prizes. And like I said, that is debatable. But it's an unreasonable position for Esiason to take.
I bet Esiason would change his mind, for example, if Schoen acquires Hopkins. Because Hopkins would satisfy his theory that Jones needs a WR1.
Well, both really.
From the article:
Former NFL MVP Boomer Esiason sees Jones continuing to be average — and even struggling — claiming that the team has not done enough to add weapons around him.
“You look at this list, it’s not that great compared to top 10 teams in the league,” Boomer said on his WFAN morning show about the Giants’ receiving corps. “That’s why they probably felt they had to pay Daniel Jones soon.”
What Esiason is looking at is not clear. The Giants have a slew of very capable — and potentially explosive options — on their roster starting with tight end Darren Waller, running back Saquon Barkley and wide receivers Isaiah Hodgins and Wan’Dale Robinson.
Add in the fact they re-signed veteran wideouts Darius Slayton and Sterling Shepard, finally drafted a starting center (John Michael Schmitz) and packed the roster with speed at receiver with Jalin Hyatt, Parris Campbell, Jeff Smith and Jamison Crowder.
That wasn’t enough to sway Boomer, though. He still sees Jones a player who will have to use his legs to get the Giants down the field.
Those are consecutive paragraphs where they indict Boomer for saying the Giants didn't do enough to help Jones. Also the idea that because they couldnt get him weapons, they decided to give him $160 million dollar contract? That doesn't make any sense at all. If the Giants felt Jones could not improve without securing top flight weapons across the board, that would tell me they did not have faith in him at all.
Also, comparing the investment in Jones weapons to Jacksons is also tremendously flawed. They drafted two WRs in the 1st in Marquise Brown and Rashod Bateman in addition to drafting a TE in the 3rd who is one of the best in the NFL in Andrews. Jones has Slayton (5th), Wandale (2nd and likely overdrafted) and Hyatt (3rd).
Jackson has had more invested in his corps. Adding a 31 year old Hopkins at 15-20 million per year when we have so many young key players to re-sign doesnt make any sense at all. Sometimes, there is just nothing there.
This is the biggest key. Again, back to back 1100 yard seasons before some injuries held him back is a tremendous weapon to have in the middle of the field with the speed guys we have. Plus, him and Hodgins in the red zone will be a nightmare for defenses
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player can take a step forward or back.
But Boomer's reasoning is what makes no sense.
Did you read the article? Nothing he said even hinted at Jones taking a step back, his entire point was that they haven’t surrounded him with enough weapons, specifically a true #1 WR and that as a result it will be rough on Jones and he will have to do a lot with his legs again this season.
If he was criticizing anyone it was Schoen
So his argument is "because the Giants didn't get Jones an All-Pro/Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, then the Giants didn't help Jones this offseason"?
What a crock of shit.
(1) They got a Pro Bowl/All Pro tight end via trade.
(2) They drafted a WR this year who may end up being the best WR available in this draft.
(3) Which wide receiver should they have signed in free agency in March? (You can argue Hopkins now, but what about when free agency started?)
(4) Didn't they draft arguably the best center in the draft?
(5) They did add Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, and Jeff Smith in free agency.
Again, the argument seems to be, where is the #1 WR? Guilty as charged, I guess. SMH
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may take a step backwards given their competition, but Daniel Jones should take another step forward.
He's in the second year of the system with the same coaching staff.
His TE targets are very good.
He has legitimate NFL targets now at WR.
His OL should be much better.
Weird take by Boomer.
I still that our WR are bottom 3 in the NFL (if you classify DW as a TE). That said he will again have to dink and dunk down the field and we will then hear his yards per attempt suck. Eric, how you think we have quality Wr targets is beyond me.
Waller, Bellinger, Cager, Hyatt, Hopkins, Campbell, Robinson, Slayton, Johnson, Crowder are far better than anything Daniel Jones has ever had to work with. It's not even close.
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anyone here be shocked if Daniel Jones outplays Aaron Rodgers? Not me.
Call me crazy, but I'm kind of expecting it.
+1
Carton interrupted and said it's because Boomer is jealous that they earn more money than he ever did, just because he played in a different era. Boomer gave him a dirty look and never actually denied it.
It seems like a decent assumption since his criticism of NY QBs never seems to end, regardless of the year.
We've either added, upgraded or gained experience across the entire offense.
QB: DJ yr two with Daboll/Kafka and feelin' it
WR/TE's: Waller size/speed, Bellinger(stronger&experienced), Campbell speed, Hyatt speed, Wan'dale speed/healthy
RB: SB, plus depth EG
OL: Experienced, added JMS - This group is going to be legit imo, Neal is a bad man and not going to repeat last year.
Looking forward to Boomer eating his words when DJ finishes better than AR
It will be interesting to see who has the better year.
Campbell or OBJ.
I especially like the part where he said “another season where he’s asked to do too much”—— you fucking twat.
While true you can say the same about Mahommes. What top tier Qb isn't expected to do a lot. And he use his legs a lot because it's part of his skill set. Waller is a huge add. Boomer hates the Giants and is usually at best snide in any and all comments
He's just a dick. But to be fair I don't think it just about the Giants. That's who he is
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“I think Daniel Jones is gonna have another rough year in terms of him having to do a lot. They’re paying him to do a lot. To be able to fit another wide receiver, I don’t see it.”
While true you can say the same about Mahommes. What top tier Qb isn't expected to do a lot. And he use his legs a lot because it's part of his skill set. Waller is a huge add. Boomer hates the Giants and is usually at best snide in any and all comments
He's just a dick. But to be fair I don't think it just about the Giants. That's who he is
Perfect!
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player can take a step forward or back.
But Boomer's reasoning is what makes no sense.
Did you read the article? Nothing he said even hinted at Jones taking a step back, his entire point was that they haven’t surrounded him with enough weapons, specifically a true #1 WR and that as a result it will be rough on Jones and he will have to do a lot with his legs again this season.
If he was criticizing anyone it was Schoen
So his argument is "because the Giants didn't get Jones an All-Pro/Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, then the Giants didn't help Jones this offseason"?
What a crock of shit.
(1) They got a Pro Bowl/All Pro tight end via trade.
(2) They drafted a WR this year who may end up being the best WR available in this draft.
(3) Which wide receiver should they have signed in free agency in March? (You can argue Hopkins now, but what about when free agency started?)
(4) Didn't they draft arguably the best center in the draft?
(5) They did add Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, and Jeff Smith in free agency.
Again, the argument seems to be, where is the #1 WR? Guilty as charged, I guess. SMH
Eric, I know Im new here, but I said it first.
Just kidding.
But in all seriousness, the Giants might have gotten the very best offensive weapon that was available in Waller. Can anybody honestly say they would consider Moore a bigger game changer than Waller?
So his argument is "because the Giants didn't get Jones an All-Pro/Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, then the Giants didn't help Jones this offseason"?
Esiason's argument is that the Giants offense, particularly Jones, needs a bonafide WR1 to make the next step.
Now, is a WR1 a prerequisite to be top tier offense? No, but unless you have one of the alien QBS from another QB planet (Mahomes, Allen, etc) it's a very important position.
Let's be honest here. There are a lot of question marks with this WR group.
I like Hyatt, but he's a rookie, and he dropped to the third round for some reason.
Parris Campbell finally played a full season last year after three years of being unavailable. But it was a fairly non-descript season.
Hodgins was a great find last year. But I have no idea what to expect from his in 2023.
Robinson looks like a decent find, but he was oft-injured and, to me, didn't look as explosive as he looked at Kentucky.
Shepherd should be assumed to be a non-factor.
I like Slayton quite a bit, but he's maybe a WR2 on his very best day.
In other words, we have a litter of muts with no stud breed.
I am a fan of Waller for sure. But his last great season was in 2020.
Why is that vindictive?
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player can take a step forward or back.
But Boomer's reasoning is what makes no sense.
Did you read the article? Nothing he said even hinted at Jones taking a step back, his entire point was that they haven’t surrounded him with enough weapons, specifically a true #1 WR and that as a result it will be rough on Jones and he will have to do a lot with his legs again this season.
If he was criticizing anyone it was Schoen
So his argument is "because the Giants didn't get Jones an All-Pro/Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, then the Giants didn't help Jones this offseason"?
What a crock of shit.
(1) They got a Pro Bowl/All Pro tight end via trade.
(2) They drafted a WR this year who may end up being the best WR available in this draft.
(3) Which wide receiver should they have signed in free agency in March? (You can argue Hopkins now, but what about when free agency started?)
(4) Didn't they draft arguably the best center in the draft?
(5) They did add Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, and Jeff Smith in free agency.
Again, the argument seems to be, where is the #1 WR? Guilty as charged, I guess. SMH
I’m not disputing any of that. My point wasn’t that I agree with him as much as you missed his point thinking he was suggesting Jones would go backwards this season but instead they didn’t bring in enough weapons to play with Jones. I agree with your last point in disputing that argument.
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So his argument is "because the Giants didn't get Jones an All-Pro/Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, then the Giants didn't help Jones this offseason"?
Esiason's argument is that the Giants offense, particularly Jones, needs a bonafide WR1 to make the next step.
Now, is a WR1 a prerequisite to be top tier offense? No, but unless you have one of the alien QBS from another QB planet (Mahomes, Allen, etc) it's a very important position.
Let's be honest here. There are a lot of question marks with this WR group.
I like Hyatt, but he's a rookie, and he dropped to the third round for some reason.
Parris Campbell finally played a full season last year after three years of being unavailable. But it was a fairly non-descript season.
Hodgins was a great find last year. But I have no idea what to expect from his in 2023.
Robinson looks like a decent find, but he was oft-injured and, to me, didn't look as explosive as he looked at Kentucky.
Shepherd should be assumed to be a non-factor.
I like Slayton quite a bit, but he's maybe a WR2 on his very best day.
In other words, we have a litter of muts with no stud breed.
I am a fan of Waller for sure. But his last great season was in 2020.
You still havent answered the question.....who else should the Giants have gone after to satisfy your complaint.
I remember your name months ago, and you seemed to find every reason to find fault with the direction the Giants went. Even when their was obvious progress, you felt something was wrong with it. Thats just not the way I choose to view this passion of mine. The facts are, the Giants made a pretty crazy move trading for Waller, loaded the team with speed, including drafting a guy that might have the game breaking ability of between Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace.
How does the receiver room look this year as opposed to last year? Its kind of silly to complain about a team not making moves when that team has a WR corps that is upgraded at literally every single spot from last year with the exception of Shephard.
Not going to box with you on this any more.
Who were the #1 wide receivers in the 2023 NFL Draft by your definition?
Who were the #1 wide receivers available in free agency in March 2023?
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Long story short, the supporting cast around Daniel Jones is much stronger than it was in 2022. I would like to remind people that David Sills and Marcus Johnson were getting serious snaps for the team early in the season.
Now if they struggle against the better fronts again running the ball and the OL's PB still is poor then Boomer has a fair point imv. Being behind the chains is tough for most QB's and teams but the Giants are at least better equipped to avoid these situations as often as last season. Hopefully.
If the OL takes a big step then I think a much more dynamic offense is in the cards and PA will be the big winner with those big chunk plays downfield when D's have to account for run/pass.
—Was in fact an above average unit in 2022 and one that was good enough to win a playoff game.
—Was in year 1 of a new regime and a regime that is universally held in high regard around the NFL
The giants offense was fucking solid last year. Why are we always forced to debate or defend Daniel jones and the offense? This wasn’t 1997. Wasn’t 1994. The 2022 giants won 10 games because of their offense. Sure it was imperfect and it was far from prolific, but why is every fucking conversation rooted in this notion that the giants offense needs all this work? That Jones HAS to play better? And why aren’t people expecting this offense to improve simply by organic means?
Darren waller doesn’t have to be a savior. He just has to add a missing element and more importantly fill a starting role adequately. Same with the rookie center and the same goes for Campbell. We flat out never had 3 professional above replacement level targets humming at the same time in 2022. Now we have more than that, on paper, and we’re coming from an above average 2022 season with the same highly beloved coaching staff. Sale ascending QB. Same star RB.
Maybe we have a tough season, any team can, but boomer is a lazy asshole. Go cover your jets and act like that team is the most talented roster going and go all in. Good luck with that. Same coaching staff. Same shit stained OL except for 1-2 guys.
The Giants picked up Hodgins late and Bellinger came back and the offense picked up again.
Now compare that to what we have now.
It's no comparison.
I'm befuddled that some can't see that. We're going to cut some WRs this year who would have started on this team last year.
The Giants picked up Hodgins late and Bellinger came back and the offense picked up again.
Now compare that to what we have now.
It's no comparison.
I'm befuddled that some can't see that. We're going to cut some WRs this year who would have started on this team last year.
This is exactly right. We ahve hedged our bets against Wandale's recovery with PC and SS. We have a legit possession guy in Hodgins. Slayton and Hyatt are stretch the field players (I honestly think Hyatt has better quickness than most give credit for) and between Bellinger, Jones and any running back we have on the field, there should be a ton of space.
I am very fired up for what our offense will look like. The Guard spots and the injuries will be an interesting watch during camp.
The Giants picked up Hodgins late and Bellinger came back and the offense picked up again.
Now compare that to what we have now.
It's no comparison.
I'm befuddled that some can't see that. We're going to cut some WRs this year who would have started on this team last year.
This is exactly right. We ahve hedged our bets against Wandale's recovery with PC and SS. We have a legit possession guy in Hodgins. Slayton and Hyatt are stretch the field players (I honestly think Hyatt has better quickness than most give credit for) and between Bellinger, Jones and any running back we have on the field, there should be a ton of space.
I am very fired up for what our offense will look like. The Guard spots and the injuries will be an interesting watch during camp.
Who were the #1 wide receivers in the 2023 NFL Draft by your definition?
Who were the #1 wide receivers available in free agency in March 2023?
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Long story short, the supporting cast around Daniel Jones is much stronger than it was in 2022. I would like to remind people that David Sills and Marcus Johnson were getting serious snaps for the team early in the season.
You know a WR1 when you see him - high # of targets, catches, TDs, big plays, etc. And multiples years doing it.
IMV, there was two WR prospects in the 2023 draft with WR1 potential: Smith-Njigba and Addison. I did/do like the potential of Hyatt, Mims, Downs, and Tillman.
I don't think there were any WR1s in free agency until now with Hopkins. I would have easily endorsed, however, making moves for Lazard, Meyers, and Agholor. Solid WRs who I believe could have made more strides under Daboll/Kafka.
We certainly have more offensive players around Jones. Outside of Waller, however, everyone else is a serious question mark with a checkered past.
You still havent answered the question.....who else should the Giants have gone after to satisfy your complaint.
I remember your name months ago, and you seemed to find every reason to find fault with the direction the Giants went. Even when their was obvious progress, you felt something was wrong with it. Thats just not the way I choose to view this passion of mine. The facts are, the Giants made a pretty crazy move trading for Waller, loaded the team with speed, including drafting a guy that might have the game breaking ability of between Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace.
How does the receiver room look this year as opposed to last year? Its kind of silly to complain about a team not making moves when that team has a WR corps that is upgraded at literally every single spot from last year with the exception of Shephard.
Not going to box with you on this any more.
I'm not complaining. Esiason is. I'm just making the case why his point isn't unreasonable.