Athletic conditioning and weight control on the Giants

What does weight have to do with success- absolutely nothing.

Put Parcells’ record next to Reeves and saying fitness has something to do with success and come back to me.

The coaches job is to say, not do. And to tirelessly work to put the players in a winning position -- which means sitting on their asses.

But Belichick isn’t exactly the model of fitness.

I’m guessing Marty in Albany has finally started dieting and walked almost a mile this morning so he’s full of confidence about his newfound workout warrior mentality

There are other reasons not to be fat.

BUT if you want to go there: Before I retired, I always believed that being at the proper weight not only gave me more energy, it allowed me to work harder and longer and thus, DO A BETTER JOB. Doesn't that apply to coaching, too?

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There are many benefits, that i personally experienced when I got my wt to about where it should be.

But i don't know if weight has anything to do with NFL coaching success. Off top of my head, Parcells, Reid, Madden and the fatty down in dallas have 6 SBs between them. Don’t think Vince L was a thin man.

the ideal weight to height ratios are to be terminated.....

...If you believe that a 6 ft male should weigh 165 lbs...

The hours these coaches work. At the facility at 4am, leave at 10 or later. Whats more valuable? Being in good shape, or getting at least 5-6 hours of uninterrupted sleep?

Personally, I definitely work a marriage of both, but it is difficult even while keeping my less strenuous work schedule. Getting a workout in isnt always in the cards. It sure as hell wouldnt be if I worked their hours. To compare it to the players' lifestyle is totally incongrupus. Their job is to constantly workout. Pretty silly parallel to draw.

In comment 16127545 TrevorC said:

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The hours these coaches work. At the facility at 4am, leave at 10 or later. Whats more valuable? Being in good shape, or getting at least 5-6 hours of uninterrupted sleep?

+1

About Daboll's and Wink's weight. Wink especially looks like he could have a heart attack any moment. They seem like good guys, good coaches and they have families. Hate for anything to happen to them. It's just a fact that they're more at risk for bad things.

that in the 40s and up.

has been everywhere from 195 to 420 (195 in my early 40s). Thinner makes life better in almost every way. But I was successful in my careers at all those weights. Would I have been more successful if I had been thinner? Sure. I had people facing jobs, and fat makes people like you less. Having said that the two best coaches in football (Belichick and Reid) have bodies like mine. And the job will tend to encourage heaviness - long hours, most of them non-active.

They will be happier and likely live longer if they lose weight. It will have only a tiny impact, if any, on their job performance.

And 190 lbs.

Best coaches of all time

I don’t think there is a correlation here, but I do agree I want everyone to be healthy and to live a long life

Would you rather have your coaches spend hours in the gym, running, etc or would you rather they put that same time into watching additional video, conferencing or doing other things that could actually improve their coaching.
Also do we really want coaches to be concerned about getting endorphin 'rushes' to make them fell good or satisfied?
Give me the edgy never satisfied unfit guy over that guy pumped up with endorphins.

Concerned if the SnC and nutrition coaches were obese. Since they obviously don't practice what they're preaching.

In comment 16127606 mfjmfj said:

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has been everywhere from 195 to 420 (195 in my early 40s). Thinner makes life better in almost every way. But I was successful in my careers at all those weights. Would I have been more successful if I had been thinner? Sure. I had people facing jobs, and fat makes people like you less. Having said that the two best coaches in football (Belichick and Reid) have bodies like mine. And the job will tend to encourage heaviness - long hours, most of them non-active. They will be happier and likely live longer if they lose weight. It will have only a tiny impact, if any, on their job performance.

Good post with some unfortunate truths. I was obese for a few years in my early 30s. I wouldn't say I was a pariah, I still had a full social life with amazing friends I still have to this day. But the constant losing battle of being comfortable in your own skin is such a drain, and people absolutely do treat you differently. Losing the weight was an eye opener.

It's not easy, and sometimes I opine that learning to manage food is, in some ways, more difficult than kicking dope (there's an old saying about getting g clean and weight gain: you put down the spoon and you'll probably pick up a fork). With drugs the answer is simple. Not east but not complicated either: abstinence. But there is no abstinence for food. Losing weight is like an alcoholic trying to learn how to drink like an average person. Early on its a meal-to-meal battle lol, it's hard as hell.

Sorry didn't mean to go off on a Monday morning tangent lol, have a good day folks.

In comment 16127505 HBart said:

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The coaches job is to say, not do. And to tirelessly work to put the players in a winning position -- which means sitting on their asses.

Agree...

I once had a history professor that was a World War II historian... he never served in the military.

I had a high school batting instructor that never played high level baseball and he was among the best in reputation.

A fat coach has nothing to do with their ability to coach and a fat trainer has nothing to do with their ability to train!

sure things are easier when you are thinner but for some its hard to stay thin. Better to be fat and happy than thinand miserable. The only guy that should be in great shape is the strength and conditioning coach. Some of my best teachers were fat, it didnt make them less effective.

I get what you are saying but as other have said, some of the best coaches in the game are way out of shape.

Some reasonable body management should not be out of the question.