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| Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said. |
We know this, because there has been at least one president in recent years who is famously been proven incapable of keeping his mouth shut on the record, in matters from national security to his own deposition for sexual assault.
If the U.S. govt is hiding flying saucers or aliens, at least one of these loose-lipped presidents would have spilled the beans. Or else a different conspiracy is at work.
The president is a temporary employee. I’d say he’s need to know but he’s probably less than that
Sorry dude but that has to be the dumbest reason for it not to be real I’ve ever heard. The president is a temporary employee he’s at best need to know like et confirmed his reservation for Sunday dinner. Clinton himself said he has a lot of interest in the topic tried to find out and was told no and after continuing to push it his people were told he needs to stop before there’s a jfk situation. If you recall one of the theories behind his assassination though I wouldn’t be shocked if any of the theories were the reason for it
Biological beings have needs and issues with space travel. Machines, not so much..and machines with AI have the best of both worlds. Make them self replicating/self repairing, and they can make as many of themselves as needed.
You don't need more than one or two worlds to start the ball rolling by creating AI robots and space travel. We are in the beginning stages of AI...what will happen in 2-300 years?
The other thing Aliens could be...is US! If Time travel becomes possible, it explains a lot of what we're seeing with UFO's. Time travelers would take incredible precautions not to interact with people from an earlier time, so the basic time line is not polluted.
I’d be more worried about accidentally falling and hitting the back of my head on 15 bullets
That would be human ego. Believing everything revolves around earth wasn’t that long ago and this isn’t much different
Biological beings have needs and issues with space travel. Machines, not so much..and machines with AI have the best of both worlds. Make them self replicating/self repairing, and they can make as many of themselves as needed.
You don't need more than one or two worlds to start the ball rolling by creating AI robots and space travel. We are in the beginning stages of AI...what will happen in 2-300 years?
The other thing Aliens could be...is US! If Time travel becomes possible, it explains a lot of what we're seeing with UFO's. Time travelers would take incredible precautions not to interact with people from an earlier time, so the basic time line is not polluted.
Indeed time is probably the answer either way. If backwards time travel is possible (big if), visitors (carefulness aside) in the universal time scale are arriving in a blink of an eye. Literally - 15,000 years in the universe time scale is one blink of an eye in a human lifetime. What are the odds?
If only forward time travel is possible, why pick this point in time and space? If/when the first human-spawned machines time travel into deep future time space, maybe we find all sorts of other intelligence that figured out the same.
First of all, it's important to note that anyone making any sort of claim has the burden of proof. It is not up to me, the listener, to disprove it.
Second, in the case of a truly extraordinary claim like, "Extraterrestrials have or are visiting Earth", the level of evidence required is very high indeed. Reports of strange lights in the sky, third hand accounts of what may or may not debris from an alien craft, first hand accounts from people who are mentally unstable or seeking attention and similar data do not come close to approaching the standard required.
As a thought experiment, the idea of extraterrestrials or time travelers or whatever visiting our planet is very interesting. But as a real thing that might have happened I remain very dubious.
It's basically some guy who claims to know a guy (nutshell)
No evidence presented. Nothing tangible, only hearsay
carry on
There's some major toe tapping going on here finding excuses.
There very well may be alien visitors, but likely few and far between if there are. Some people would have you believe they're here all the time, crash with frequency, are sighted all the time, but don't make contact, stay hidden, and with mega millions of cell phones, no one gets more than fuzzy images. Only the dark web of coverup bureaucrats manage to collect evidence.
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The good news is that your future descendants are working to do just that.
The bad news? My future descendants and everyone else's are doing the same thing. So our powerball payoff will be $1.25
You know oghwga, I don't disagree with you on that. I also am not sold on his documentary Close Encounters of the 5th Kind. What I did find extremely interesting was the Disclosure Project. The upcoming press conference looks like it may be similar to that. I also saw a recent video of Greer's, in which they were trying to get attorney's to help them try to start a RICO case against some industries that they claim are withholding technology, and have threatened people who could possibly turn whistleblower. They believe that the threat of violence makes it a case of organized crime. Who knows?
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I remember 20 years ago he was talking about a breakthrough engine using quantum flux or some other such bullshit that was coming very soon thanks to alien technology. I've yet to see any hard evidence from a guy who claims to have a lot of it.
You know oghwga, I don't disagree with you on that. I also am not sold on his documentary Close Encounters of the 5th Kind. What I did find extremely interesting was the Disclosure Project. The upcoming press conference looks like it may be similar to that. I also saw a recent video of Greer's, in which they were trying to get attorney's to help them try to start a RICO case against some industries that they claim are withholding technology, and have threatened people who could possibly turn whistleblower. They believe that the threat of violence makes it a case of organized crime. Who knows?
I doubt there's a legitimate RICO case there for a number of reasons I will not bore you with.
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I remember 20 years ago he was talking about a breakthrough engine using quantum flux or some other such bullshit that was coming very soon thanks to alien technology. I've yet to see any hard evidence from a guy who claims to have a lot of it.
You know oghwga, I don't disagree with you on that. I also am not sold on his documentary Close Encounters of the 5th Kind. What I did find extremely interesting was the Disclosure Project. The upcoming press conference looks like it may be similar to that. I also saw a recent video of Greer's, in which they were trying to get attorney's to help them try to start a RICO case against some industries that they claim are withholding technology, and have threatened people who could possibly turn whistleblower. They believe that the threat of violence makes it a case of organized crime. Who knows?
I doubt there's a legitimate RICO case there for a number of reasons I will not bore you with.
Honestly, if they try to file it, or not, it doesn't matter to me. I just thought it was an interesting angle to take, but it seems like a serious long shot.
But the video of the crash and the police video appears to be real. I just don’t think the part about the beings was real. I think the kid made up the part about the aliens. But a meteorite may have crashed near by his home and then he sensationalized it.
But the video of the crash and the police video appears to be real. I just don’t think the part about the beings was real. I think the kid made up the part about the aliens. But a meteorite may have crashed near by his home and then he sensationalized it.
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