But the NY Rangers with the New York media and Patrick Roy? You want to talk about two combustible elements...It'll be like Torts, except Roy is one of the greatest players in NHL history and instead of a pissed-off Masshole, Roy is a cranky French-Canadian.
This could either go very well or be a complete disaster
I just want to see Roy throw down with Rod the Bod
Roy had one surprising good season in Colorado, flamed out in the playoffs, and then was a disaster for the next two seasons while feuding with the front office. Are you really that impressed with winning a championship in the Q, the weakest of the Canadian junior leagues?
But I think he is a wild card as a head coach, one of my all time hockey favorites, but he's got to have a wide range of expectations. Could be great or disastrous.
Lavy is definitely safer. Inspirational? not sure any coach is inspirational to me if it's not Herb Brooks (and his NHL tenure was underwhelming).
I'm surprised Drury is not putting his future in more "stable" hands.
It will be awesome to watch this unfold. It definitely won't be boring.
Roy had one surprising good season in Colorado, flamed out in the playoffs, and then was a disaster for the next two seasons while feuding with the front office. Are you really that impressed with winning a championship in the Q, the weakest of the Canadian junior leagues?
He won a championship in the CHL, which has 60 teams. The fact that he won the Memorial Cup with a Q team, which like you said, is the weakest league, is pretty impressive.
Meanwhile, Laviolette also flamed out in his most recent tenure in Washington. Two years without getting past the first round (despite having the best player in the NHL) and missing the playoffs completely last year.
But I think he is a wild card as a head coach, one of my all time hockey favorites, but he's got to have a wide range of expectations. Could be great or disastrous.
I thought the Gallant hire was inspiring. I mean he led an expansion team to the SCF, he won the Jack Adams Award recently, he won the Gold for Canada-U-18 before he joined the Rangers... He gave Rangers fans a reason to be optimistic.
But I agree, none of the current candidates are inspiring. It's a lackluster list, but I think Roy has the most...upside, I guess? If Laviolette is the safe choice, Roy is the HR swing.
Eh....at the lower levels, winning is more about just out-talenting
the other teams. His NHL HC stint was not particularly good, especially when you factor in his static with Sakic. Do you think Roy will be able to handle the NY media? I don't.
As pj has said, Washington was trying to wring one more run out of a rapidly aging and declining core. I really don't think that says anything definitive about Laviolette.
needs to keep himself off the chopping block. Team must do better and not sure how far is good enough this year. There isnt much roster wise that can be done besides giving up on young talent. Maybe the off book coach is the best chance to improve the team. Either way dont think Drury will sleep well for the next year
and overstating stupid HC/media relations which has absolutely no impact on wins and losses. If it gets ugly in the standings the HC is toast anyway, and it won't matter if he's bringing cookies to the PC every night.
Roy will be a disaster here in my view. He's a clown.
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The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
Yep. Pretty much what Staple says in his most recent article. Drury has no plan. He's in way over his head. Link - ( New Window )
The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
Dubas has double-downed on Sullivan. Doesn't sound like Sullivan is going anywhere. Sheldon Keefe, on the other hand...
The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
Didn't Dubas say they're sticking with Sullivan last week?
The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
Yep. Pretty much what Staple says in his most recent article. Drury has no plan. He's in way over his head. Link - ( New Window )
The guy who traded Buchnevich for a bag of pucks, gave Goodrow a six year deal, Trocheck a seven year deal, let Kravtsov's asset value implode over the years, and traded for dying Patrick Kane has no plan?
his boss doesn't know he has no plan or has let himself be fooled into believing he does have a plan.
My plan was, before SCP began, positing this scenario--i.e., Rangers ousted and leapfrogged by NJD in Round 1 and where do they go, how do they improve, from there? No good answer.
There's been beats guys pushing Drury to re-sign......Kane!
The top 6 are a huge problem in their defensive deficiencies and "the Talent" coming up very small in the biggest games, at very high caps and NMCs. Fair enough, but after watching Game 1 of FLA v VGK I am beginning to believe that the top three pair are becoming a real ? based on their play 2H '22 - '23. As a group, they are not mobile enough, not physical enough, position savvy enough, not cohesive enough each with his partner.
a healthy Kane at 35 is a good addition if the price is right.
I also don't think Kane added much and he may have been redundant with Tarasenko, but he definitely out-pointed whoever would have been in his spot and that acquisition was pretty harmless.
He won't be ready to start the season, so maybe that's the perfect time to see another player (Othmann?) in a top 6 role and give him some rope if he's deemed NHL ready.
I think it's pretty likely, as has been leaked, that Drury hoped Sullivan wouldn't be retained by a new GM. Now I suppose there's still a chance because Dubas hasn't hired a GM yet. But, it sounds pretty damn unlikely.
Regardless of this, what has leaked has made it clear the relationship between Gallant and Drury was broken and was not going to be fixed. Gallant had to go.
So, to say there is no plan, eh.. who cares... The plan is to hire a new damn coach and they're in the process of taking interviews. The fact that none of the more experienced candidates have been hired thus far leads me to believe there's others he'd like to talk to or at least others he'd like a chance to talk to. Soo.. maybe just let the process work itself out before we decide how good said plan was. My 2 cents at least..
Nothing is really going to change so long as Sather is around
certainly isn't winning people over with his decision making so far, but it is kind of a paradox as far as fans are concerned.
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
certainly isn't winning people over with his decision making so far, but it is kind of a paradox as far as fans are concerned.
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
That's a fair point, PJ, but it makes me wonder then, why fire Gallant at all? Because they had their disagreements? And then there were rumors that Drury would've fired him as early as what? December? That sounds incredibly petty and short-sighted. Gallant, for all his flaws, which there are quite a few, had led the team to the ECF...and you're going to turn around and fire him a few months later? WTF?
None of these options inspire confidence and frankly, none of them seem clear upgrades over Gallant. For all his warts, Gallant did lead us to the Playoffs...twice. He's what? The winningest or second-winningest coach in team history? Sad commentary on this organization, but be that as it may, we got W'd under him.
But to your point about whether it's a retread or a first-timer, I thought that's why Roy made a ton of sense. He seemed like the happy medium. He has been an NHL HC and he's had success in the minors. He's also a hockey HOFer (that commands respect), he's a no-nonsense hardass, which is the antithesis of Gallant, and he knows how to reach young kids.
So you have the inexperienced like Leach, Knoblauch and I'll even throw Messier in there, and the experienced retreads like Laviolette and Hynes. Seemed like Roy was the best of both worlds.
had to go because it became clear he wasn't going to win a cup in NY. Gallant's career MO is have some success then get worse (except CBJ where they were bad all along) and he fit that pattern in NY too. Odds are him in 2023-2024 yields the same result.
Blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs is terrible. Doing it when you have such an advantage in net is even worse. And then to see the Canes dismantle them.
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
certainly isn't winning people over with his decision making so far, but it is kind of a paradox as far as fans are concerned.
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
Well, that sort of illustrates there is no plan. Promoting Knoblauch would have shown Drury cares about having someone on the same page as him, someone he can work with.
This meandering between interviews just strikes me as uninspiring bullshit hoping something good pops up.
Blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs is terrible. Doing it when you have such an advantage in net is even worse. And then to see the Canes dismantle them.
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
Rangers aren’t that good. They don’t beat Florida…they lost to that young team with “goaltender issues” in fact they even got shut out in games….
You’re just overrating your team.
The road wasn’t easy at all…The east was and is a gauntlet and rangers are just one of the bottom of the playoff teams…
there is always the danger the guy won't have time to fully integrate.
And it's easier to integrate complementary players--like they did last year--than guys like Kane and Tarasenko who are used to be the top player on their team but are not as good as they used to be (which is usually the case when a HOFer gets traded mid-season).
That said, this was a carbon copy of last year when they went up 2-0 in fairly dominant performances and then could not adjust to the other team's adjustments. And that falls squarely on Gallant and indicates why he never lasts long at a job.
The Rangers are a playoff team today without adjusting their roster in any meaningful way.
They are not a perfect team, but they have the main ingredients to win, they need three things to IMO be a legit cup contender. They need a 2C, they need a top 6 forward (RW) and they need a top 4 veteran stay at home D. All of this is doable this off-season IMO.
It is no secret the Rangers are built from the net out, when you have a healthy Igor you are never not a contender.
But saying they wouldn't have beaten FLA is pointless speculation. A week before the season ended FLA wasn't even a playoff team. Their goalie situation was awful, their D was brutal, and their scoring was inconsistent. Looks a lot like these past two games.
bad matchup for them in terms of both style and coaching.
It's easy to overreact to the way they went out, and I'm in agreement that Gallant had to go, but the takes on these threads are consistently more "the sky is falling" than is warranted.
Just my opinion, of course. I enjoy the banter either way; or most of it.
Blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs is terrible. Doing it when you have such an advantage in net is even worse. And then to see the Canes dismantle them.
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
Rangers aren’t that good. They don’t beat Florida…they lost to that young team with “goaltender issues” in fact they even got shut out in games….
You’re just overrating your team.
The road wasn’t easy at all…The east was and is a gauntlet and rangers are just one of the bottom of the playoff teams…
The Rangers had a better record than both teams still playing. I never said it was 'easy', I said it was easier than prior years. There is no Tampa Bay, no Colorado, etc. Once the Bruins got knocked out, there was no major threat.
Devils and Rangers were roughly equivalent teams. I said this going into the series and still think it's true. Rangers getting shut out by them twice was pathetic.
The Rangers’ big Achilles heel against Jersey was speed
I don't disagree the Devils have some fast players, but I don't think puck battles or loose pucks are always won because player a is faster than player b.
I see it at the youth level a lot. the faster players don't always win and it's not just physicality, but it's effort IMO.
and I think this holds true at all levels. In the NHL scheme plays into it too - far more than lower levels, but it starts with effort IMO and speed is lower on the list.
I'm not discounting the importance of speed, but I think it manifests itself in different ways like beating or putting pressure on the D (and that takes a toll in a game but it especially takes a toll in a series).
who shouldn't compete, but Kane wasn't added to win puck battles.
He was basically (IMO) a power play addition. That said he had 93 points as recently as last year, but with his hip in the condition it was, I didn't expect him to mix it up.
The guys on the Rangers you should be pointing to for playoff no-shows are Mika, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba, Miller, etc. (not even the kid line IMO) I don't care about straight line speed, Mika is a great two-way player who was off during the playoffs.
He had 4 pts in 7 games which is less than Kane (6) and he was sub 50% on faceoffs.
You can dissect all the players I mentioned and find major dropoffs or flaws with their playoffs.
who shouldn't compete, but Kane wasn't added to win puck battles.
He was basically (IMO) a power play addition. That said he had 93 points as recently as last year, but with his hip in the condition it was, I didn't expect him to mix it up.
The guys on the Rangers you should be pointing to for playoff no-shows are Mika, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba, Miller, etc. (not even the kid line IMO) I don't care about straight line speed, Mika is a great two-way player who was off during the playoffs.
He had 4 pts in 7 games which is less than Kane (6) and he was sub 50% on faceoffs.
You can dissect all the players I mentioned and find major dropoffs or flaws with their playoffs.
I believe a big reason why Zibanejad fell of is because Gallant gave his slot spot on the PP to Kane and moved Zib down to bumper. Which is a totally foolish move when you consider how many goals Zibanejad scored on a 1T from the dot on the PP.
My issue with the Kane trade was much less about his performance but the fit (putting my off-ice issues aside). It was a strategic mistake. I do not blame Kane's performance for the loss at all. He did better than anticipated but his flaws are his flaws.
First, I hate adding more than a single top six player for a playoff run. Second, Kane made no sense. The Rangers needed someone to win puck battles, forecheck, etc. Kane doesn't do that. The Rangers had the sixth best powerplay in the league. Why add Kane? To Costy's point, I thought it really disrupted things.
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I think Shiv, Kendall or Roman Roy would have a better shot at the Rangers job than Patrick Roy
My issue with the Kane trade was much less about his performance but the fit (putting my off-ice issues aside). It was a strategic mistake. I do not blame Kane's performance for the loss at all. He did better than anticipated but his flaws are his flaws.
First, I hate adding more than a single top six player for a playoff run. Second, Kane made no sense. The Rangers needed someone to win puck battles, forecheck, etc. Kane doesn't do that. The Rangers had the sixth best powerplay in the league. Why add Kane? To Costy's point, I thought it really disrupted things.
But you have to look at who Kane was replacing. Rangers really only had one natural RW (Kakko). They never replaced Buch.
So I think Kane and Tarasenko were a good gamble. They just did just not have enough time to gel.
he is a righty who plays LW. If he would only stay on his natural hand side it would solve one problem.
I hate all the dumping on Panarin, he's one of the best passers I've seen and he has a lot of unteachable traits, and though he has flaws he's a good player, but he's just not a great fit on the Rangers. Especially at that contract.
This could either go very well or be a complete disaster
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But I think he is a wild card as a head coach, one of my all time hockey favorites, but he's got to have a wide range of expectations. Could be great or disastrous.
Lavy is definitely safer. Inspirational? not sure any coach is inspirational to me if it's not Herb Brooks (and his NHL tenure was underwhelming).
I'm surprised Drury is not putting his future in more "stable" hands.
It will be awesome to watch this unfold. It definitely won't be boring.
He won a championship in the CHL, which has 60 teams. The fact that he won the Memorial Cup with a Q team, which like you said, is the weakest league, is pretty impressive.
Meanwhile, Laviolette also flamed out in his most recent tenure in Washington. Two years without getting past the first round (despite having the best player in the NHL) and missing the playoffs completely last year.
But I think he is a wild card as a head coach, one of my all time hockey favorites, but he's got to have a wide range of expectations. Could be great or disastrous.
I thought the Gallant hire was inspiring. I mean he led an expansion team to the SCF, he won the Jack Adams Award recently, he won the Gold for Canada-U-18 before he joined the Rangers... He gave Rangers fans a reason to be optimistic.
But I agree, none of the current candidates are inspiring. It's a lackluster list, but I think Roy has the most...upside, I guess? If Laviolette is the safe choice, Roy is the HR swing.
As pj has said, Washington was trying to wring one more run out of a rapidly aging and declining core. I really don't think that says anything definitive about Laviolette.
I'd rather hire someone else than either of them.
The one coach they still employ is Benoit Allaire who is rightfully credited with contributing to the Rangers success in goal.
Roy will be a disaster here in my view. He's a clown.
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I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
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The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
Yep. Pretty much what Staple says in his most recent article. Drury has no plan. He's in way over his head.
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Dubas has double-downed on Sullivan. Doesn't sound like Sullivan is going anywhere. Sheldon Keefe, on the other hand...
Didn't Dubas say they're sticking with Sullivan last week?
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The Rangers sure are taking their time. Leads me to believe they're monitoring the Sullivan situation to see if Dubas wants his own guy there. Otherwise they could have hired candidates like Lavy/Hynes a week or more ago. or even Babcock before the Sens hired him.
I think you're right which reinforces my view that Drury is an idiot with no real plan.
Gallant had to go. A good coach whose flaws became too big. But you needed to be comfortable with at least promoting Knoblauch to fire Gallant IMO.
I wish the mods would unban one of Snablas' fifteen accounts so he can tell us how good Drury is.
Yep. Pretty much what Staple says in his most recent article. Drury has no plan. He's in way over his head. Link - ( New Window )
The guy who traded Buchnevich for a bag of pucks, gave Goodrow a six year deal, Trocheck a seven year deal, let Kravtsov's asset value implode over the years, and traded for dying Patrick Kane has no plan?
Shocker.
My plan was, before SCP began, positing this scenario--i.e., Rangers ousted and leapfrogged by NJD in Round 1 and where do they go, how do they improve, from there? No good answer.
There's been beats guys pushing Drury to re-sign......Kane!
The top 6 are a huge problem in their defensive deficiencies and "the Talent" coming up very small in the biggest games, at very high caps and NMCs. Fair enough, but after watching Game 1 of FLA v VGK I am beginning to believe that the top three pair are becoming a real ? based on their play 2H '22 - '23. As a group, they are not mobile enough, not physical enough, position savvy enough, not cohesive enough each with his partner.
A tall mountain for whoever the new HC is.
a healthy Kane at 35 is a good addition if the price is right.
I also don't think Kane added much and he may have been redundant with Tarasenko, but he definitely out-pointed whoever would have been in his spot and that acquisition was pretty harmless.
He won't be ready to start the season, so maybe that's the perfect time to see another player (Othmann?) in a top 6 role and give him some rope if he's deemed NHL ready.
Regardless of this, what has leaked has made it clear the relationship between Gallant and Drury was broken and was not going to be fixed. Gallant had to go.
So, to say there is no plan, eh.. who cares... The plan is to hire a new damn coach and they're in the process of taking interviews. The fact that none of the more experienced candidates have been hired thus far leads me to believe there's others he'd like to talk to or at least others he'd like a chance to talk to. Soo.. maybe just let the process work itself out before we decide how good said plan was. My 2 cents at least..
I hate to say it this way, but Othmann had the "benefit" of spending two years post draft in juniors.
Both coaches in the Finals are retreads
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
That's a fair point, PJ, but it makes me wonder then, why fire Gallant at all? Because they had their disagreements? And then there were rumors that Drury would've fired him as early as what? December? That sounds incredibly petty and short-sighted. Gallant, for all his flaws, which there are quite a few, had led the team to the ECF...and you're going to turn around and fire him a few months later? WTF?
None of these options inspire confidence and frankly, none of them seem clear upgrades over Gallant. For all his warts, Gallant did lead us to the Playoffs...twice. He's what? The winningest or second-winningest coach in team history? Sad commentary on this organization, but be that as it may, we got W'd under him.
But to your point about whether it's a retread or a first-timer, I thought that's why Roy made a ton of sense. He seemed like the happy medium. He has been an NHL HC and he's had success in the minors. He's also a hockey HOFer (that commands respect), he's a no-nonsense hardass, which is the antithesis of Gallant, and he knows how to reach young kids.
So you have the inexperienced like Leach, Knoblauch and I'll even throw Messier in there, and the experienced retreads like Laviolette and Hynes. Seemed like Roy was the best of both worlds.
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
if he hires a known coach, even one with a cup and a track record of success, fans are uninspired because the coach is a "retread"
if he hires a coach who has no NHL track record it's basically putting his career in the hands of a first timer and if it turns out poorly (like with Quinn) 100% the fans will turn and say "shouldn't have hired a coach with no experience with all those known quantities out there"
so in Bart Simpson terms this paradox is defined by "damned if you do, damned if you don't"
Well, that sort of illustrates there is no plan. Promoting Knoblauch would have shown Drury cares about having someone on the same page as him, someone he can work with.
This meandering between interviews just strikes me as uninspiring bullshit hoping something good pops up.
Long article in the Athletic saying the same...no joy for Roy
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
Rangers aren’t that good. They don’t beat Florida…they lost to that young team with “goaltender issues” in fact they even got shut out in games….
You’re just overrating your team.
The road wasn’t easy at all…The east was and is a gauntlet and rangers are just one of the bottom of the playoff teams…
And it's easier to integrate complementary players--like they did last year--than guys like Kane and Tarasenko who are used to be the top player on their team but are not as good as they used to be (which is usually the case when a HOFer gets traded mid-season).
That said, this was a carbon copy of last year when they went up 2-0 in fairly dominant performances and then could not adjust to the other team's adjustments. And that falls squarely on Gallant and indicates why he never lasts long at a job.
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The Rangers are a playoff team today without adjusting their roster in any meaningful way.
They are not a perfect team, but they have the main ingredients to win, they need three things to IMO be a legit cup contender. They need a 2C, they need a top 6 forward (RW) and they need a top 4 veteran stay at home D. All of this is doable this off-season IMO.
It is no secret the Rangers are built from the net out, when you have a healthy Igor you are never not a contender.
But saying they wouldn't have beaten FLA is pointless speculation. A week before the season ended FLA wasn't even a playoff team. Their goalie situation was awful, their D was brutal, and their scoring was inconsistent. Looks a lot like these past two games.
It's easy to overreact to the way they went out, and I'm in agreement that Gallant had to go, but the takes on these threads are consistently more "the sky is falling" than is warranted.
Just my opinion, of course. I enjoy the banter either way; or most of it.
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Blowing 2-0 leads in the playoffs is terrible. Doing it when you have such an advantage in net is even worse. And then to see the Canes dismantle them.
The path to a Stanley Cup was never going to be easier than it was this year. A rising/young team with goaltending flaws, a decimated team in round 2, the 8th seed in the ECF. It's infuriating.
Rangers aren’t that good. They don’t beat Florida…they lost to that young team with “goaltender issues” in fact they even got shut out in games….
You’re just overrating your team.
The road wasn’t easy at all…The east was and is a gauntlet and rangers are just one of the bottom of the playoff teams…
The Rangers had a better record than both teams still playing. I never said it was 'easy', I said it was easier than prior years. There is no Tampa Bay, no Colorado, etc. Once the Bruins got knocked out, there was no major threat.
Devils and Rangers were roughly equivalent teams. I said this going into the series and still think it's true. Rangers getting shut out by them twice was pathetic.
Which is reason #89852 why acquiring Kane was stupid.
I don't disagree the Devils have some fast players, but I don't think puck battles or loose pucks are always won because player a is faster than player b.
I see it at the youth level a lot. the faster players don't always win and it's not just physicality, but it's effort IMO.
and I think this holds true at all levels. In the NHL scheme plays into it too - far more than lower levels, but it starts with effort IMO and speed is lower on the list.
I'm not discounting the importance of speed, but I think it manifests itself in different ways like beating or putting pressure on the D (and that takes a toll in a game but it especially takes a toll in a series).
Kakko is quite good at it. Kreider is surprisingly not good for someone with his size IMO.
He was basically (IMO) a power play addition. That said he had 93 points as recently as last year, but with his hip in the condition it was, I didn't expect him to mix it up.
The guys on the Rangers you should be pointing to for playoff no-shows are Mika, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba, Miller, etc. (not even the kid line IMO) I don't care about straight line speed, Mika is a great two-way player who was off during the playoffs.
He had 4 pts in 7 games which is less than Kane (6) and he was sub 50% on faceoffs.
You can dissect all the players I mentioned and find major dropoffs or flaws with their playoffs.
He was basically (IMO) a power play addition. That said he had 93 points as recently as last year, but with his hip in the condition it was, I didn't expect him to mix it up.
The guys on the Rangers you should be pointing to for playoff no-shows are Mika, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba, Miller, etc. (not even the kid line IMO) I don't care about straight line speed, Mika is a great two-way player who was off during the playoffs.
He had 4 pts in 7 games which is less than Kane (6) and he was sub 50% on faceoffs.
You can dissect all the players I mentioned and find major dropoffs or flaws with their playoffs.
I believe a big reason why Zibanejad fell of is because Gallant gave his slot spot on the PP to Kane and moved Zib down to bumper. Which is a totally foolish move when you consider how many goals Zibanejad scored on a 1T from the dot on the PP.
First, I hate adding more than a single top six player for a playoff run. Second, Kane made no sense. The Rangers needed someone to win puck battles, forecheck, etc. Kane doesn't do that. The Rangers had the sixth best powerplay in the league. Why add Kane? To Costy's point, I thought it really disrupted things.
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First, I hate adding more than a single top six player for a playoff run. Second, Kane made no sense. The Rangers needed someone to win puck battles, forecheck, etc. Kane doesn't do that. The Rangers had the sixth best powerplay in the league. Why add Kane? To Costy's point, I thought it really disrupted things.
But you have to look at who Kane was replacing. Rangers really only had one natural RW (Kakko). They never replaced Buch.
So I think Kane and Tarasenko were a good gamble. They just did just not have enough time to gel.
he is a righty who plays LW. If he would only stay on his natural hand side it would solve one problem.
I hate all the dumping on Panarin, he's one of the best passers I've seen and he has a lot of unteachable traits, and though he has flaws he's a good player, but he's just not a great fit on the Rangers. Especially at that contract.