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Giants.com OTA #7 Report

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/5/2023 3:50 pm
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The New York Giants opened their third week of organized team activities (OTAs) on Monday at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center. They will practice every day except Wednesday leading into next week's minicamp, and then the team will break until training camp in late July.

The Giants spent a lot of time in the red zone, so there were many plays to be made on both sides of the ball. Let's get to it.

Here are highlights from OTA No. 7:



Top Plays: Linebackers show skills on busy red-zone day - ( New Window )
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RE: RE: Starting to love the depth......  
k2tampa : 6/6/2023 9:37 am : link
In comment 16128199 Payasdaddy said:
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Granted, possible lack of Super stars....but a professional stable of 7/8 WRs is nice security.



Yea, looks like 7-8 could belong in league
Last yr, maybe 2-3 each week
Nothing close to a wr1 but that’s not horrible, especially if teams need to pay attention to Waller.



They could go from being possibly the worst receiver group in the league at the start of last year to actually being able to trade a guy or two for a late round pick if they don't want to keep them on the practice squad, especially if one of the others (Smith?) is kept as a returner. (of course Shepard and Robinson might not be ready at the start).

Hodgins, Campbell, Robinson, Shepard, Slayton, Crowder, Hyatt, and Johnson. Then throw in Waller and Bellinger. The rest, Sills, Smith, Pimpleton, Polk, Mickens and Ford-Wheaton are closer to what the Giants put on the field at the start of last season (Sills was one of them) than the group they will put out there this year.
RE: RE: I said not to sleep on Crowder...  
Carl in CT : 6/6/2023 9:52 am : link
In comment 16128140 KDavies said:
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In comment 16128112 Eric from BBI said:


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"Crowder has been as-advertised in camp. He is a quick and excellent route runner out of the slot with reliable hands. He came up with a couple of touchdown catches today."



Crowder has always been a very good WR. Similar to Shep / Giants Steve Smith. If healthy he should make the team.

Campbell/Hodgins/Hyatt/Slayton/Johnson/Shep. The Giants actually have a pretty deep WR corps. Add in Waller and Bellinger and, health willing, Jones will have plenty of weapons.


No true#1 just a bunch of average guys. Bottom 1/4 in the league. TE’s a different if DW stays healthy.
Carl in CT  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/6/2023 10:28 am : link
I'm not sure I'd call Campbell, Hyatt, and Hodgins "bottom 1/4".

We shall see.
7 of the 20  
Pete in MD : 6/6/2023 10:53 am : link
highlights on Giants.com showed how proficient the players are at making a hands-in circle huddle.
RE: 7 of the 20  
Klaatu : 6/6/2023 11:45 am : link
In comment 16128531 Pete in MD said:
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highlights on Giants.com showed how proficient the players are at making a hands-in circle huddle.




"You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out..."
RE: Current  
MotownGIANTS : 6/6/2023 11:48 am : link
In comment 16128257 Toth029 said:
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Wide receivers are interesting.

Hyatt, Hodgins, Campbell, Robinson and Slayton are locks. Your question marks start and end with Shepard, Crowder, Smith, Sills, Collin Johnson, etc.

Crowder really hasn't done much in a couple years. To me he feels like insurance if Wan'Dale and Shepard can't be ready. Perhaps PS spot?


Think it'll be Hyatt, Hodgins, Campbell, Robinson, Slayton, Johnson and Crowder. I think he edges Shep just being healthier. Could we put Shep on the PS?
RE: RE: 7 of the 20  
Bill in UT : 6/6/2023 11:50 am : link
In comment 16128561 Klaatu said:
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highlights on Giants.com showed how proficient the players are at making a hands-in circle huddle.





"You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out..."


Ford-Wheaton's got some good size to go with that speed. Now, if only he's a football player
RE: RE: RE: I said not to sleep on Crowder...  
KDavies : 6/6/2023 11:51 am : link
In comment 16128464 Carl in CT said:
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In comment 16128112 Eric from BBI said:


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"Crowder has been as-advertised in camp. He is a quick and excellent route runner out of the slot with reliable hands. He came up with a couple of touchdown catches today."



Crowder has always been a very good WR. Similar to Shep / Giants Steve Smith. If healthy he should make the team.

Campbell/Hodgins/Hyatt/Slayton/Johnson/Shep. The Giants actually have a pretty deep WR corps. Add in Waller and Bellinger and, health willing, Jones will have plenty of weapons.



No true#1 just a bunch of average guys. Bottom 1/4 in the league. TE’s a different if DW stays healthy.


Add in Robinson if he's healthy to start the season, and that is quite a bit better than what the Giants have had for a while, even accepting your "bunch of average guys" and "bottom 1/4 in the league."

Past couple years, Giants have had historically bad WR corps. It is a very much improved unit to the point where they will be cutting some capable players if everyone is healthy
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Klaatu : 6/6/2023 11:58 am : link
In comment 16128566 Bill in UT said:
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Ford-Wheaton's got some good size to go with that speed. Now, if only he's a football player


Patti Traina seemed to sum him up in one observation: On one play he made a tremendous leaping catch, and then on the next play he let an easily catchable pass go right through his hands.
Premature roster thoughts (WR)  
NYG22 : 6/6/2023 12:26 pm : link
Campbell/Hodgins/Hyatt/Slayton are roster locks

Robinson a lock once healthy

Leaves 1-2 spots for:

Shep, Crowder - would think max of 1 of these makes the team

Johnson

Hard to imagine BFW making the team unless he turns into David Tyree (stud STer) early. If he is a practice squad guy, he could be plucked.

RE: RE: 7 of the 20  
Pete in MD : 6/6/2023 12:28 pm : link
In comment 16128561 Klaatu said:
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highlights on Giants.com showed how proficient the players are at making a hands-in circle huddle.





"You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out..."

I guess it shows that the team can function as one unit. I'd be worried if a few guys were in one circle and a few others were like 2 feet away in another. Jalin Hyatt was right in there with everyone else.
RE: RE: RE: 7 of the 20  
Klaatu : 6/6/2023 12:47 pm : link
In comment 16128601 Pete in MD said:
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In comment 16128531 Pete in MD said:


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highlights on Giants.com showed how proficient the players are at making a hands-in circle huddle.

"You put your left foot in, you take your left foot out..."

I guess it shows that the team can function as one unit. I'd be worried if a few guys were in one circle and a few others were like 2 feet away in another. Jalin Hyatt was right in there with everyone else.


Well, after all..."that's what it's all about," right?
RE: Premature roster thoughts (WR)  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/6/2023 12:57 pm : link
In comment 16128599 NYG22 said:
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Campbell/Hodgins/Hyatt/Slayton are roster locks

Robinson a lock once healthy

Leaves 1-2 spots for:

Shep, Crowder - would think max of 1 of these makes the team

Johnson

Hard to imagine BFW making the team unless he turns into David Tyree (stud STer) early. If he is a practice squad guy, he could be plucked.


My preliminary take is it Crowder versus Shep too.
RE: Starting to love the depth......  
ColHowPepper : 6/6/2023 1:16 pm : link
In comment 16128448 k2tampa said:
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...The rest, Sills, Smith, Pimpleton, Polk, Mickens and Ford-Wheaton are closer to what the Giants put on the field at the start of last season (Sills was one of them) than the group they will put out there this year.

I kind of like that take, k2. JS, with the BD and offensive staff inputs, have revamped that room in the space of one-off-season. Hopefully it translates to success on the offensive side of the ball.
RE: RE: the  
jrdinsc : 6/6/2023 2:23 pm : link
In comment 16128232 81_Great_Dane said:
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picture of Bellinger from the other day was not some sort of optical illusion... this is from today... damn....

Serious question: If you're a TE, I can see wanting to get stronger legs, but what is the advantage of arms like that? Does that kind of bulk help with blocking?


Mass moves mass, improved power, etc. I'm not sure there is a single downside to his size right now. I would also guess that there are very few isolated arm movements in his training plan (bicep curls, tricep extensions, etc). More likely that he was doing heavy compound movements (pullups, rows, bench, cleans, etc) that have proven time and time again the build size and power.

It is interesting, I was just talking with one of my crossfit coaches this week about how when we were coming up through high school there was no weight room work for many sports. Hopefully this has changed today and everyone is, at the VERY least, getting proper instruction early so they can reap the many benefits from lifting. All athletes, really all people, should be weight training regularly.
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