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The Bills' new stadium will have a grass field

jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 6/6/2023 6:12 am
Why can't the Giants install a similar grass field?
Bills plan grass field for new stadium - ( New Window )
Our stadium gets way too much use  
Giant John : 6/6/2023 6:27 am : link
To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.
Why does this question...  
BMac : 6/6/2023 10:00 am : link
...constantly ome up when it's been answered ad nauseum?
Imagine thinking this would be a relevant point.  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/6/2023 10:24 am : link
Who's the second NFL team that uses the Bills' new stadium? And what does the projected usage for non-football events look like?

You couldn't just ask yourself "is this really an apples to apples comparison?" before posting this here?
RE: Imagine thinking this would be a relevant point.  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 6/6/2023 11:49 am : link
In comment 16128488 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Who's the second NFL team that uses the Bills' new stadium? And what does the projected usage for non-football events look like?

You couldn't just ask yourself "is this really an apples to apples comparison?" before posting this here?


Gee, I guess those non-football events are more important than injuries to the players!
RE: Imagine thinking this would be a relevant point.  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 6/6/2023 11:49 am : link
In comment 16128488 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Who's the second NFL team that uses the Bills' new stadium? And what does the projected usage for non-football events look like?

You couldn't just ask yourself "is this really an apples to apples comparison?" before posting this here?


Gee, I guess those non-football events are more important than injuries to the players!
RE: Our stadium gets way too much use  
Mook80 : 6/6/2023 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16128354 Giant John said:
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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.


Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route
RE: Imagine thinking this would be a relevant point.  
5BowlsSoon : 6/6/2023 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16128488 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Who's the second NFL team that uses the Bills' new stadium? And what does the projected usage for non-football events look like?

You couldn't just ask yourself "is this really an apples to apples comparison?" before posting this here?


I’ll help you guys here…see link
MetLife - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Our stadium gets way too much use  
BMac : 6/6/2023 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16128617 Mook80 said:
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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.



Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route


Horseshit. Lincoln isn't used a fraction compared to Met Life, and that doesn't include two pro teams using Met Life.
Just a flat-out lie.
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jv : 6/6/2023 1:43 pm : link
In comment 16128635 BMac said:
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Horseshit. Lincoln isn't used a fraction compared to Met Life, and that doesn't include two pro teams using Met Life.
Just a flat-out lie.


Lincoln Financial gets used a ton. What do you work for the Maras? They may not have 2 pro teams in there but it's getting used for Temple games plus a myriad of concerts, monster truck shows, fitness expos, etc just like any major stadium.

MetLife just continues to find ways to be a shitty stadium. You'd think the easiest thing to not fuck up would be the playing surface.
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jestersdead : 6/6/2023 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16128659 jv said:
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Horseshit. Lincoln isn't used a fraction compared to Met Life, and that doesn't include two pro teams using Met Life.
Just a flat-out lie.



Lincoln Financial gets used a ton. What do you work for the Maras? They may not have 2 pro teams in there but it's getting used for Temple games plus a myriad of concerts, monster truck shows, fitness expos, etc just like any major stadium.

MetLife just continues to find ways to be a shitty stadium. You'd think the easiest thing to not fuck up would be the playing surface.


A simple "event search" for both stadiums shows Metlife hosting double to triple the events as Lincoln Financial. Metlife will have 10-20 concerts there this summer season while the Linc only has 5-7
RE: RE: Our stadium gets way too much use  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/6/2023 2:13 pm : link
In comment 16128617 Mook80 said:
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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.



Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route

It's not just "a few times a year less" it's that the few times a year less are all in Q4 when the grass would get obliterated by overuse and no regrowth.

That's why Pittsburgh and Philly (both have an NFL tenant and a college tenant) are not comparable to MetLife. The college schedule is over before winter even begins.
RE: RE: Imagine thinking this would be a relevant point.  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/6/2023 2:16 pm : link
In comment 16128563 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:
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In comment 16128488 Gatorade Dunk said:


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Who's the second NFL team that uses the Bills' new stadium? And what does the projected usage for non-football events look like?

You couldn't just ask yourself "is this really an apples to apples comparison?" before posting this here?



Gee, I guess those non-football events are more important than injuries to the players!

Do you think frozen mud is safer than cushioned turf? Because that's what would happen.

The non-football events are a profit center - they're not going anywhere. When you're ready to reframe your argument to exist in the real world, come back.
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BMac : 6/6/2023 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16128659 jv said:
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In comment 16128635 BMac said:


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Horseshit. Lincoln isn't used a fraction compared to Met Life, and that doesn't include two pro teams using Met Life.
Just a flat-out lie.



Lincoln Financial gets used a ton. What do you work for the Maras? They may not have 2 pro teams in there but it's getting used for Temple games plus a myriad of concerts, monster truck shows, fitness expos, etc just like any major stadium.

MetLife just continues to find ways to be a shitty stadium. You'd think the easiest thing to not fuck up would be the playing surface.


Look at and compare the stadium calendars, dipshit.
BMac.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/6/2023 7:02 pm : link
You are one miserable SOB man. Seek help dude.
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TrevorC : 6/6/2023 7:12 pm : link
In comment 16128617 Mook80 said:
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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.



Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route


This isn't really true. Looking at the event calendars, the Linc has 8 non-football events between now and the season. Met Life has 19 non-football events THROUGH the season and thats with having a football game on that field almost every week.

So essentially 34 events to 15. Just saying.
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TrevorC : 6/6/2023 7:15 pm : link
In comment 16128678 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 16128354 Giant John said:


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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.



Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route


It's not just "a few times a year less" it's that the few times a year less are all in Q4 when the grass would get obliterated by overuse and no regrowth.

That's why Pittsburgh and Philly (both have an NFL tenant and a college tenant) are not comparable to MetLife. The college schedule is over before winter even begins.


I didnt realize Temple started playing there in 2020. Still, its a pretty wide gap in events
They should have gone with a dome  
GFAN52 : 6/6/2023 8:53 pm : link
as well.
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Mook80 : 6/12/2023 12:19 pm : link
In comment 16128678 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 16128354 Giant John said:


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To install grass. They just put in a new synthetic so let’s see how that works out.



Nonsense. Philly gets used a few times a year less and has a grass field. They just went the cheapest and easiest route


It's not just "a few times a year less" it's that the few times a year less are all in Q4 when the grass would get obliterated by overuse and no regrowth.

That's why Pittsburgh and Philly (both have an NFL tenant and a college tenant) are not comparable to MetLife. The college schedule is over before winter even begins.


Lincoln Financial Field regularly hosts the Army-Navy game in december, so in those years it's basically 1 absolute max 2x more that MetLife gets used in December. And they never seem to have a problem. MetLife absolutely could have natural grass they just do not want to invest the money into maintaining it properly so it makes it through entire season.
Last year  
Mook80 : 6/12/2023 12:30 pm : link
Lincoln Financial Field was used December 4th, 10th, January 1st, January 8th, January 21st, January 29th.

At no point in that stretch was the field in poor condition. 4 out of 5 weekends in January it was played on and this is how it looked on January 29th.



If Philly can handle it just fine playing on it 4 of 5 weekends in January there is no reason MetLife can't do the same.
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Mook80 : 6/12/2023 12:31 pm : link
RE: Last year  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/12/2023 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16131785 Mook80 said:
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Lincoln Financial Field was used December 4th, 10th, January 1st, January 8th, January 21st, January 29th.

At no point in that stretch was the field in poor condition. 4 out of 5 weekends in January it was played on and this is how it looked on January 29th.

If Philly can handle it just fine playing on it 4 of 5 weekends in January there is no reason MetLife can't do the same.

We're just ignoring three weeks off in late December?

Leave the playoffs out of it because it's not something that you can plan for too far in advance, but even there, the Jets and Giants could both be in the playoffs at the same time, and both could conceivably host games. That would also be twice as much use as Philly could even host in the first place.

From Labor Day to the end of the NFL regular season, how many weekends was MetLife Stadium completely dormant? And which weekends were they?
To minimize waste,  
Pete in MD : 6/12/2023 1:04 pm : link
they are also providing reusable folding tables that can survive multiple body slams.
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