Starting Lineups for both clubs today
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups today & tomorrow against the Braves
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-The Mets are currently a .500 team with a 30-30 record.
-They're in third place in the NL East, 5.5 games behind the first place Braves.
-Two of the three kids are sitting today: Alvarez and Vientos.
-Vogelbach is DHing against the righty and Narvaez is at Catcher for Alvarez.
-Lindor is slumping badly still and is hitting second today.
-McNeil is in LF today (batting third today) and Escobar is playing 2B (batting eighth).
Alvarez, Canha, Vientos, & Pham
Say what you want, but the Mets are a better club with Narvaez in lieu of Nido now. Hopefully Narvaez stays healthy now. He's a fine re-addition. Buck ain't wasting anytime putting him out there tonight. I just wish Alvarez's bat was in the lineup at DH instead of Vogey, especially with this particular opponent. No reason to give away games.
It looks like Vogelbach or Pham have to be next to go, but via trade this time. I'm assuming this won't happen until near the trade deadline on July 31st. Hope I'm wrong though. I'd rather it be Vogelbach and hope it's sooner instead of later to get Mauricio up here, but it seems like he'll need another month and a half to acclimate to LF in Syracuse before anything is considered. Gonna be an interesting buildup to the trading deadline during the next 7 to 8 weeks or so.
Current MLB standings
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-The Mets need to not get swept here. That would be painful. One of three is the minimum. 2 of 3 would help point them in the right direction IMHO. This is a big series.
Why is the hitting coach not on the hot seat? If one guy is slumping, you figure it's that guy. If everyone is slumping, doesn't that suggest the coaching is a problem. Then you have young hitters coming up, starting strong and then cooling off — which is common, since the league gets a book on them, but it's also consistent with bad coaching at the MLB level.
I feel the same way.
It seems like the Mets front office has been a clownshow since 1988.
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Will any of the guys listed 21 to 30 go in a deal for a reliever?
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He left because Nats promised him he'd start. Not sure how much he'd welcome the BP transition.
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My list is really weighted towards upper levels and likelihood of making majors. Probably some younger guys who should be on there but I tend to look at production.
Will any of the guys listed 21 to 30 go in a deal for a reliever?
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Because he didn't pass rookie status yet. I think 45 days on active roster or 50 IP or 130 AB. He hasn't reached any of those milestones yet.
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I have no idea why Mark Vientos is still on this list since he's in the Show now.
Will any of the guys listed 21 to 30 go in a deal for a reliever?
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Because he didn't pass rookie status yet. I think 45 days on active roster or 50 IP or 130 AB. He hasn't reached any of those milestones yet.
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Scott Barlow from KC (article on him HERE) is one and former Met Trevor Williams from the horrible Nats is the other.
He left because Nats promised him he'd start. Not sure how much he'd welcome the BP transition.
Gotta try, right?
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I have no idea why Mark Vientos is still on this list since he's in the Show now.
Will any of the guys listed 21 to 30 go in a deal for a reliever?
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Because he didn't pass rookie status yet. I think 45 days on active roster or 50 IP or 130 AB. He hasn't reached any of those milestones yet.
Thanks GF!
NP! Thanks for all your posts here to keep us informed. I like the visuals.
And believe it or not today is the 45th day on active roster for Vientos so he graduated from prospect status. Pipeline just updated and they have him out and Chris Larez now enters as prospect #30.
While Mark Canha’s OPS is only down 35 points from where it was this time last season, left field as a whole has been more of a black hole in the New York lineup. (Some of that falls on Jeff McNeil, whose OPS when playing left is just .452.) McNeil’s OPS as a whole is down 106 points. Luis Guillorme’s lack of production accentuates the plummet at second base.
The Mets still haven’t solved their DH conundrum — it wasn’t like they were getting all-world numbers from that spot last season — and both Francisco Lindor and Starling Marte are significantly down from where they were a year ago.
half full = mcneil and lindor are all stars, the babip should be as low as it is, especially without the shift. canha and marte have started to look better. the babip is pretty glaring though and seems likely to turn around.
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Alex Ramírez continues his hot stretch as he whacked another home run tonight for Brooklyn (High-A).
The 20-year-old now has five home runs and 29 RBIs on the season.
His average up to .260 and OPS up to .743 after a slow start.
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My list is really weighted towards upper levels and likelihood of making majors. Probably some younger guys who should be on there but I tend to look at production.
Why so low with Ramirez?
I would have him after Jett probably.
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Alex Ramirez has homered in two straight games for High-A @BKCyclones
fan of his game and timing lines up with when it may make sense to shift nimmo to a corner (or just give him more rest). not untradeable but he's a good prospect.
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Can Jose Butto be a better option in the Mets pen?
his average exit velocity over his 2 years at the MLB level is 94.7mph. that would be 6th best in baseball.
he had 2 near homers to cf that would have been out in other parks in the series vs toronto. young players cant get better not playing. no issue giving vogelbach occasional starts but they have to give up on this idea that he is any way, shape, or form a #5 hitter. he is a role player who presents severe roster flexibility limitations.
He batted 4th.
Unless I'm mistaken I think the Mets rookies have started in the top 4 in the lineup a total of 1 time this year.
1 run game you have 6 outs left,
narvaez has no power and first game back,
pham hit 2 homers last game and hits lefties.
buck was too slow as usual w/ bp but pham there is fine.
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Why is Pham pinch hitting for Narvaez.. this is ridiculous.. idk what the hell Keith and Gary are on defending this move. Total BS
1 run game you have 6 outs left,
narvaez has no power and first game back,
pham hit 2 homers last game and hits lefties.
buck was too slow as usual w/ bp but pham there is fine.
I meant instead of Alvarez
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Why is Pham pinch hitting for Narvaez.. this is ridiculous.. idk what the hell Keith and Gary are on defending this move. Total BS
1 run game you have 6 outs left,
narvaez has no power and first game back,
pham hit 2 homers last game and hits lefties.
buck was too slow as usual w/ bp but pham there is fine.
I meant instead of Alvarez
he's on a 1/17 and hasnt done much pinch hitting. no issue if you choose him but pham is just as defendable. managers generally dont like not having a catcher on the bench if a game goes into extras.
pham has been decent and coming off a big game. pinch hitting late with rookies in cold streaks isnt setting them up for success, it's more of a last resort type situation.
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Why is Pham pinch hitting for Narvaez.. this is ridiculous.. idk what the hell Keith and Gary are on defending this move. Total BS
1 run game you have 6 outs left,
narvaez has no power and first game back,
pham hit 2 homers last game and hits lefties.
buck was too slow as usual w/ bp but pham there is fine.
I meant instead of Alvarez
he's on a 1/17 and hasnt done much pinch hitting. no issue if you choose him but pham is just as defendable. managers generally dont like not having a catcher on the bench if a game goes into extras.
I mean I can buy the slump thing I guess, but I still disagree...
Your catcher on the bench thing makes no sense though in this case. Alvarez had to come in anyway
But maybe you can defend that by saying he got the GIDP the inning before.
However, I just don't see how you let him face Murphy after a walk and a double. Runners on second and third so no GIDP possibility
It really seems sometimes that Buck is more concerned with saving the pen--even after a day off--than he is with winning the game.
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In comment 16128989 moze1021 said:
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Why is Pham pinch hitting for Narvaez.. this is ridiculous.. idk what the hell Keith and Gary are on defending this move. Total BS
1 run game you have 6 outs left,
narvaez has no power and first game back,
pham hit 2 homers last game and hits lefties.
buck was too slow as usual w/ bp but pham there is fine.
I meant instead of Alvarez
he's on a 1/17 and hasnt done much pinch hitting. no issue if you choose him but pham is just as defendable. managers generally dont like not having a catcher on the bench if a game goes into extras.
I mean I can buy the slump thing I guess, but I still disagree...
Your catcher on the bench thing makes no sense though in this case. Alvarez had to come in anyway
duh forgot who he was pinch hitting for.
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Pham is the 3rd best RH bat off the bench
pham has been decent and coming off a big game. pinch hitting late with rookies in cold streaks isnt setting them up for success, it's more of a last resort type situation.
You sound like Buck man! How does a rookie get used to coming off the bench in a big situation if you don't give them a chance at it in June? Don't forget Alvarez and Vientos have had 4 of the biggest clutch hits for the Mets this year...
Damn..I sure as hell don't want bums like Vogelbach or Pham getting big September/October at bats vs guys like Vientos/Alvarez/Mauricio who all have more talent in their pinkies!! Enough of this bullshit with the low ceiling and just as low floor veterans..
But maybe you can defend that by saying he got the GIDP the inning before.
However, I just don't see how you let him face Murphy after a walk and a double. Runners on second and third so no GIDP possibility
It really seems sometimes that Buck is more concerned with saving the pen--even after a day off--than he is with winning the game.
which has been his habit since september last year. no urgency to keep close games close. always saving his powder for the next game.
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I would have pulled CC after he walked the leadoff hitter. He was leaving his pitches up.
But maybe you can defend that by saying he got the GIDP the inning before.
However, I just don't see how you let him face Murphy after a walk and a double. Runners on second and third so no GIDP possibility
It really seems sometimes that Buck is more concerned with saving the pen--even after a day off--than he is with winning the game.
which has been his habit since september last year. no urgency to keep close games close. always saving his powder for the next game.
Saves his powder. Or after the opponent takes the lead he brings in his top bullpen guys anyway--a case of closing the barn door after the horses have run out.
Damn that deadline was such a turning point
So Buck's moves really backfired tonight.
McNeil at 2B, Canha in LF and Vientos at DH--Mets probably win the game
this team is 1 step forward 1 step back, still paying for the sins of last year.
im very close to flipping from defending buck to the exact opposite side in a span of 1 game thread. he just keeps making bad decisions on the margins. ill blame eppler for most of the shitty bp depth highlighted by the ridiculously stupid decision to trade holderman (which we all first guessed).
but buck makes the lineup card and vogelbach should not be hitting 5th until he at least hits 1 ball actually over a wall, and more realistically 5-10.
you cannot leave carrasco out there like he did. turned a game that should have been a win into a very bad loss.
Damn that deadline was such a turning point
every time i see iglesias in there looking unhittable (to us at least) i relive the stupid comment about robust relievers. also every time vogelbach does nothing which is often.