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NFT: Chris Paul waived by Suns

No1MDGiantsFan : 6/7/2023 5:28 pm
Per Chris Haynes “ BREAKING: Phoenix Suns have notified star Chris Paul that he will be waived, making the future Hall of Famer one of the top free agents this offseason, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.”
Add him directly  
Reeses Pieces : 6/7/2023 5:30 pm : link
To the Lakers roster.
How does this work with a max contract?  
robbieballs2003 : 6/7/2023 5:32 pm : link
In general, a team can sign their own player to more money than another team. Teams will do a sign and trade for those reasons. But if a player is waived, how does that work?
Also,  
robbieballs2003 : 6/7/2023 5:33 pm : link
is there offset language so he can sign with a team for cheap?
RE: How does this work with a max contract?  
rich in DC : 6/7/2023 5:41 pm : link
In comment 16129529 robbieballs2003 said:
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In general, a team can sign their own player to more money than another team. Teams will do a sign and trade for those reasons. But if a player is waived, how does that work?


His salary for next season was only partially guaranteed, so it appears the Suns have decided to save themselves a LOT of money by waiving him and having those non-guaranteed dollars go away.
I could see Suns making a play for Quick  
nygiants16 : 6/7/2023 5:44 pm : link
maybe something involving Ayton?
RE: I could see Suns making a play for Quick  
Strahan91 : 6/7/2023 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16129539 nygiants16 said:
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maybe something involving Ayton?

Yuck
RE: RE: How does this work with a max contract?  
robbieballs2003 : 6/7/2023 6:12 pm : link
In comment 16129538 rich in DC said:
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In comment 16129529 robbieballs2003 said:


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In general, a team can sign their own player to more money than another team. Teams will do a sign and trade for those reasons. But if a player is waived, how does that work?



His salary for next season was only partially guaranteed, so it appears the Suns have decided to save themselves a LOT of money by waiving him and having those non-guaranteed dollars go away.


I thought all NBA contracts were fully guaranteed. The NBA is so confusing.
One of my favorite players the last 15/20 years  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2023 6:20 pm : link
if he goes to the Lakers I’ll be very disappointed
RE: One of my favorite players the last 15/20 years  
TyreeHelmet : 6/7/2023 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16129557 UConn4523 said:
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if he goes to the Lakers I’ll be very disappointed


Why?
Do you really not know  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2023 6:37 pm : link
?
I could see him taking less to be in a major market  
AROCK1000 : 6/7/2023 6:47 pm : link
Why not us??
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/7/2023 6:52 pm : link
I'm in the opposite boat of UConn: I can't stand Paul. Can't stand him. An all time great PG-to me, he's a notch below Magic & Zeke-but I'm so glad he's never won a ring.
You can dislike him  
UConn4523 : 6/7/2023 6:56 pm : link
and still not want him to be a Laker :)
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/7/2023 6:58 pm : link
Paul aside, Irving-that space cadet-said he wants LBJ to come to Dallas. And I want to have a threesome with Margot Robbie & Jessica Alba. News flash: neither of those are happening.
CP3 would murder Randle by Thanksgiving.  
bceagle05 : 6/7/2023 7:19 pm : link
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RE: ...  
MOOPS : 6/7/2023 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16129575 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Paul aside, Irving-that space cadet-said he wants LBJ to come to Dallas. And I want to have a threesome with Margot Robbie & Jessica Alba. News flash: neither of those are happening.


Not a good idea. Bad things happen when LBJ goes to Dallas.
MOOPS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/7/2023 7:27 pm : link
LOL. A second after I posted that, I thought...'Fuck. LBJ & Dallas? I'm forgetting one of my political idols in JFK! Fuck Dallas!' Haha.
According to Woj  
nygiants16 : 6/7/2023 7:29 pm : link
Suns still discussing scenarios with Paul, Paul wants to return to Phoenix...

Suns have also put Ayton on the trade block
RE: According to Woj  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/7/2023 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16129589 nygiants16 said:
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Suns still discussing scenarios with Paul, Paul wants to return to Phoenix...

Suns have also put Ayton on the trade block


Ayton strikes me as dude who got paid & doesn't GAF anymore.
there goes the Suns  
spike : 6/7/2023 8:26 pm : link
Will they trade Booker
RE: there goes the Suns  
nygiants16 : 6/7/2023 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16129617 spike said:
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Will they trade Booker


No, they are setting up for the new CBA, and build around Booker and KD
he's playing  
ElitoCanton : 6/7/2023 8:30 pm : link
with a fork in his back at this point.
RE: RE: According to Woj  
MOOPS : 6/7/2023 8:33 pm : link
In comment 16129604 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 16129589 nygiants16 said:


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Suns still discussing scenarios with Paul, Paul wants to return to Phoenix...

Suns have also put Ayton on the trade block



Ayton strikes me as dude who got paid & doesn't GAF anymore.


Ayton falls into that Kyler Murray/Kirk Cousins niche. You know when you're signing him he's not worth the money. But you pretty much have to because your alternatives are limited.
RE: there goes the Suns  
bw in dc : 6/7/2023 8:38 pm : link
In comment 16129617 spike said:
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Will they trade Booker


NFW. Booker is one of the ten best players in the league. And he's only 26.

Phoenix needs to trade Ayton while he still might have some decent value. Find a partner to take his soft-ass play and add more depth/quality.
I dont know ill gladly take  
nygiants16 : 6/7/2023 8:51 pm : link
an 18 and 10 center who shoots 60% from the field as the 3rd or 4th option and has an offensive game
Isn't Paul ancient by NBA standards  
xman : 6/7/2023 9:11 pm : link
and injury prone.
RE: Isn't Paul ancient by NBA standards  
moze1021 : 6/8/2023 7:45 am : link
In comment 16129645 xman said:
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and injury prone.


Plenty left in the tank to play that Kyle Lowry role on a championship team if he has the desire to do that.
would you do a  
NYG22 : 6/8/2023 7:56 am : link
Mitch Robinson + Fournier for Ayton deal?

Why for NYK: Ayton is more durable, is significantly better offensively with rebounding being negligible diff.

Why for Suns: Robinson is a better defensive anchor (what Vogel requires; to be fair, so does Thibs). Fournier gives them another shooter and the 2 for 1 deal helps their depleted roster after the KD trade.
RE: would you do a  
Heisenberg : 6/8/2023 8:02 am : link
In comment 16129714 NYG22 said:
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Mitch Robinson + Fournier for Ayton deal?

Why for NYK: Ayton is more durable, is significantly better offensively with rebounding being negligible diff.

Why for Suns: Robinson is a better defensive anchor (what Vogel requires; to be fair, so does Thibs). Fournier gives them another shooter and the 2 for 1 deal helps their depleted roster after the KD trade.


trying to imagine soft ass Ayton and Thibs....
i thought ayton would get overpaid...  
Italianju : 6/8/2023 8:15 am : link
which he did. Zero interest in trading for him. He isnt a bad player, but he doesnt seem like anything better then a solid to good player. Id much rather keep Mitch, i feel like he has more of an overall impact on the game then ayton does. Advanced stats have them having a similar impact as there PER and WS are pretty similar. And Mitchell does it on a very good contract, ayton does it on a deal that will play him 100 mill over the next 3 years (42 for mitch over the next 3 years)
I was dead wrong on Ayton  
Enzo : 6/8/2023 9:32 am : link
He really has taken a step back and it doesn't look like he's going to reach his potential.
RE: I dont know ill gladly take  
Pete44 : 6/8/2023 9:32 am : link
In comment 16129639 nygiants16 said:
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an 18 and 10 center who shoots 60% from the field as the 3rd or 4th option and has an offensive game


Really? A guy who puts zero effort in on defense and does not show up every night? No Thanks!
I am in tbe minority i guess  
nygiants16 : 6/8/2023 9:54 am : link
i just want an offensive center, but i also think with Ayton a big part is not wanting to be in phoenix
RE: I am in tbe minority i guess  
Pete44 : 6/8/2023 10:26 am : link
In comment 16129785 nygiants16 said:
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i just want an offensive center, but i also think with Ayton a big part is not wanting to be in phoenix


Actually, overall I agree with you that we need an offensive center, barring no other upgrades, but not sure Ayton is the answer. I prefer KP for what this team needs and if they can get him without trading Mitch, even better.
RE: I am in tbe minority i guess  
Enzo : 6/8/2023 10:41 am : link
In comment 16129785 nygiants16 said:
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i just want an offensive center, but i also think with Ayton a big part is not wanting to be in phoenix

a stretch 5 would be nice but I'd settle for someone who doesn't botch pocket passes and lose rebounds in traffic. Mitch brings a lot to the table but his hands are horrendous and result in too many missed opportunities for points. You can get away with that at times, but not in high level playoff games.
he's done as a pure PG  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 6/8/2023 10:43 am : link
since he has no ability to get to the rim anymore. His PnRs used to be about as effective as any play in the NBA for a decade. One of the most helpless looking things you'd see on an NBA court was a big switched to Paul and then Paul would dance his way to a wet 16 foot bucket.

One of the best PGs ever but unfortunately the fact that he always gets hurt in the playoffs is going to be a big part of his legacy. Like I'm pretty sure CP3 at his best was better than Kidd/Payton, but those two guys were more reliable and did get to the Finals as the best player. But CP3 really was a special player even if he's always been a douche.
RE: RE: ...  
colin : 6/9/2023 12:41 am : link
In comment 16129584 MOOPS said:
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In comment 16129575 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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Paul aside, Irving-that space cadet-said he wants LBJ to come to Dallas. And I want to have a threesome with Margot Robbie & Jessica Alba. News flash: neither of those are happening.



Not a good idea. Bad things happen when LBJ goes to Dallas.


This is a great fucking joke
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