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NFT: Downtown Philly Tourist Attractions Help Needed

NYG27 : 6/8/2023 3:21 pm
Even with living just 2 hours from Philly, I never had interest in visiting.

Although I have family members visiting me that want to do a day trip there in a couple of weeks on a Saturday.

Main things they want to visit is the Liberty Bell, possibly a couple of history museums, Rocky statue and a cheese steak stop.

Any suggestion on what else would be worth checking out too while there? Best place to try a cheese steak and where would be a good place to park that would be near these locations?
The Horse Poop  
JohnG in Albany : 6/8/2023 3:26 pm : link
Buffet?
At Jefferson Station  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/8/2023 3:36 pm : link
You can watch the homeless guy take a piss while you wait for your train.
Go to the Italian Market  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/8/2023 3:37 pm : link
The Liberty Bell is kinda disappointing
Rent some bikes and take a  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 3:43 pm : link
Spin up kelly drive to see the boat houses. If you have a fairly athletic crew, you can stop in East Falls and grab drinks by the river.

The zoo is apparently a good one. I just never went.

Go for drinks in Fishtown/Northern Liberties...lots of outdoor seating.

Don't know if Reading Terminal is open on weekends, but that place is insane for food.
Cheese steaks?  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 3:47 pm : link
D'Alessandro's is the best really, but its about 10 miles away from center city.

John's Roast Pork has a great steak. But I keep hearing about Angelo's on 9th in S. Philly having not only great steaks, but the pizza is awesome too (and I think Philly pizza sucks).

If you get hungry again, Philly has the best Chinatown on the East Coast in my opinion. Dim Sum Garden, David's Mai Lai Wah (wings!) and Sang kee are all top notch.
Bunch  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2023 3:50 pm : link
of good breweries in Philly.
Looking  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2023 3:51 pm : link
forward to trying Kalaya. The chef just won the best chef in these Mid-Atlantic states
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DanMetroMan : 6/8/2023 3:52 pm : link
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forward to trying Kalaya. The chef just won the best chef in these Mid-Atlantic states Link - ( New Window )


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RE: Go to the Italian Market  
Essex : 6/8/2023 3:58 pm : link
In comment 16130037 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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The Liberty Bell is kinda disappointing


I am kind of in agreement with this--it is just a bell. Maybe in this age of everything being a photo opp, people like it more so they can get their photo. I am always of the opinion if there is a line avoid it.

The Franklin Institute on the other hand is amazing and so is Independence Hall (right near the Liberty Bell). The Franklin Institute if I remember correctly is not too far from the Rocky statue. John's Steaks is where I would go for Cheesesteaks. Pat and Geno's are fine, but not the best and tourist traps. Philly is a great day trip.
Reading  
DanMetroMan : 6/8/2023 4:00 pm : link
Market is great
The rocky steps and art musuem are in the same spot  
Metnut : 6/8/2023 4:07 pm : link
and are both worth checking out. When I'm in filling, I enjoy just walking around the Rittenhouse Square area and the South Street area (near Jim's steaks). The markets mentioned above are fine too.

It's a fun city to visit, but wouldn't want to live there and hate their sports teams.
Logistics  
10 to 13 : 6/8/2023 4:17 pm : link
The rocky statue is next to the art museum which is on the other side of the city from the Liberty Bell. It would not be feasible to walk this distance not advisable. More than likely the rocky statue will have an extremely long line.

There are several good museums and obviously the Franklin Institute being the most well known. Within walking distance from the Liberty Bell which is newer this the American Revolution museum which is pretty cool. It’s also in an area called Old City which is highly walkable with numerous options for food including a couple cheesesteak spots, Campos and Sonny’s.

My friends and I have done a cheesesteak tasting event 4 times with a brief Covid hiatus. Johns roast pork is the best. Period. It has won every single year in a blind test. It’s a bit out of the way and has nothing of consequence around it. This doesn’t feel like a cheesesteak hunt kind of day trip but if you wanted more thoughts I’d be happy share.
RE: RE: Go to the Italian Market  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 4:42 pm : link
In comment 16130053 Essex said:
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In comment 16130037 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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The Liberty Bell is kinda disappointing



I am kind of in agreement with this--it is just a bell. Maybe in this age of everything being a photo opp, people like it more so they can get their photo. I am always of the opinion if there is a line avoid it.

The Franklin Institute on the other hand is amazing and so is Independence Hall (right near the Liberty Bell). The Franklin Institute if I remember correctly is not too far from the Rocky statue. John's Steaks is where I would go for Cheesesteaks. Pat and Geno's are fine, but not the best and tourist traps. Philly is a great day trip.


Frankin institute hasnt been cool in over a decade. Its kind of beat to shit and and the workers suck.

I never got the allure of the Italian market. Its cool if you are shopping to stock your fridge, but NBD to me.
The Liberty Bell...  
Chris in Philly : 6/8/2023 4:46 pm : link
is just a bell, but it's still cool to see. Pair that with a timed ticket to Independence Hall and if you want more that sort of thing, both the US Constitution Center and the Independence Museum are worth looking into.

The Rocky statue is by the Art Museum, which is a great museum but you won't have time for it. You can still do the steps and the statue though. Parking is miserable.

Most of the best cheesesteak shops have been mentioned, but most of them are inconvenient to center city. If you want to stay in the general area of independence square, then I would just go to Sonny's. Is it the best? No. But not bad and far better than the tourist traps. Then get dessert at Franklin Fountain down the street. And maybe grab some chocolates for the road at Shanes.

That's a pretty good day with a minimum amount of getting around.
RE: The Horse Poop  
Sec 103 : 6/8/2023 5:15 pm : link
In comment 16130027 JohnG in Albany said:
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Buffet?


And the homeless druggies... Can't miss 'em
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/8/2023 6:56 pm : link
I might get flamed for this, but I prefer Philadelphia to NYC. I find NYC to be too much. Philadelphia-while I think its either the 5th or 6th biggest city in the nation-doesn't feel as overwhelming & intimidating.

Hit up the Museum of Art, which is right by the stairs up to the museum. Check out the Liberty Bell. & have a pint or 10 of Pliny the Elder at Monk's, this really great pub in Center City.
These are really two different areas.  
KeoweeFan : 6/8/2023 7:20 pm : link
The historic district (Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, Ben Franklin and other sites) is near the river. There is where the original cheese steak vendors are and they are still good. Last time I was there parking was reasonable.

City Center is where the statue is. If that is one of your "must sees" I'd recommend a "drive by" even if you had to circle a number of times. The parking in that area is outrageously priced (as are the restaurants) . Nothing struck me as "family attractions" other than the statue.

These observations go back 10 years when my brother had a home in the historic district on 2nd street, originally 2 blocks from the port. (subsequent land filling moved the river bank further East.)
Franklin Fountain Ice Cream Parlor on Market Street  
Jazzertpt Go Big Blue! : 6/8/2023 7:22 pm : link
Is awesome! Market street has lots of places! I second Reading Terminal Market (Dinic's Roast Pork, cool Amish place too)

If you've never been, corner where Gino's and Pat's is pretty cool, much better cheesesteaks elsewhere (go to John's Roast Pork)

I like taking family to Independence Hall

City Tavern - you can have a meal like Revolutionary times.
RE: These are really two different areas.  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 7:50 pm : link
In comment 16130156 KeoweeFan said:
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The historic district (Liberty Bell, Independence Hall, Ben Franklin and other sites) is near the river. There is where the original cheese steak vendors are and they are still good. Last time I was there parking was reasonable.

City Center is where the statue is. If that is one of your "must sees" I'd recommend a "drive by" even if you had to circle a number of times. The parking in that area is outrageously priced (as are the restaurants) . Nothing struck me as "family attractions" other than the statue.

These observations go back 10 years when my brother had a home in the historic district on 2nd street, originally 2 blocks from the port. (subsequent land filling moved the river bank further East.)


Rocky statue is NOT in Center City. It is at the Art Museum.The neighborhood right by the Art Museum is NOT Center City. Its Fairmount with a touch of Brewerytown.
Steve's Prince of Steaks has a CC location.  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 7:52 pm : link
They arent as good as the orig location in NE Philly, but still much better than Pat's Geno's, Jim's or a pizza place.
RE: Franklin Fountain Ice Cream Parlor on Market Street  
Chris in Philly : 6/8/2023 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16130160 Jazzertpt Go Big Blue! said:
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Is awesome! Market street has lots of places! I second Reading Terminal Market (Dinic's Roast Pork, cool Amish place too)

If you've never been, corner where Gino's and Pat's is pretty cool, much better cheesesteaks elsewhere (go to John's Roast Pork)

I like taking family to Independence Hall

City Tavern - you can have a meal like Revolutionary times.


City Tavern closed…
The Mutter Museum is interesting to  
St. Jimmy : 6/8/2023 9:08 pm : link
see.
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Larry in Pencilvania : 6/8/2023 10:08 pm : link
In comment 16130147 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I might get flamed for this, but I prefer Philadelphia to NYC. I find NYC to be too much. Philadelphia-while I think its either the 5th or 6th biggest city in the nation-doesn't feel as overwhelming & intimidating.

Hit up the Museum of Art, which is right by the stairs up to the museum. Check out the Liberty Bell. & have a pint or 10 of Pliny the Elder at Monk's, this really great pub in Center City.


The beer selection at Monks is insane pair that with the veal cheeks and pomme frites
For breakfast I'd recommend  
Larry in Pencilvania : 6/8/2023 10:12 pm : link
Sabrina's Cafe near the art museum. The portions are insane and the food is awesome
RE: For breakfast I'd recommend  
TrevorC : 6/8/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16130253 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Sabrina's Cafe near the art museum. The portions are insane and the food is awesome


I would do Silk City. Not only is the menu absolutely terrific, but the decor is wild and its only a ten min cab/uber right from the art museum. Outdoor bar is probably open by now.

Sabrinas is good, but Silk is insane.
If your in the historical section  
joeinpa : 6/9/2023 7:28 am : link
Right across the street from the Liberty Bell is

Independence Hall, ( a must visit). Congress Hall and the Supreme Court Building

Also next to Liberty Hall is the dig of the house Washington lived in when he served as President in Philadelphia

Constitutional Center is also in that area

Worth a visit,

Carpenter s Hall home of First constitutional Congress, Ben Franklin s Home and Museum, Christ Church and Betsy Ross s home

You could do that in a day and still visit Reading Markets
Barnes Art Gallery is amazing  
CasualFan : 6/9/2023 10:21 am : link
Going down Kelly Drive is worth doing. Great restaurants all over.
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RE: RE: For breakfast I'd recommend  
j_rud : 6/9/2023 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16130257 TrevorC said:
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Sabrina's Cafe near the art museum. The portions are insane and the food is awesome



I would do Silk City. Not only is the menu absolutely terrific, but the decor is wild and its only a ten min cab/uber right from the art museum. Outdoor bar is probably open by now.

Sabrinas is good, but Silk is insane.


Comfort and Floyd is the best breakfast in the city. I'll die on this hill.
Thanks for all the great suggestions  
NYG27 : 6/9/2023 1:51 pm : link
I'll be with two teenage boys, who one of is really into historic sites.

Question, if I park near the historic sites to visit Liberty Bell, Independence and Congress Halls. How is public transportation from that area to the Art Museums and Rocky statue? Is there a subway\metro that connects the two locations or would it be better to go by car and find parking in that 2nd location.
People voluntarily go to Philadelphia?  
NNJ Tom : 6/9/2023 3:54 pm : link
You couldn't pay me to go to that hell/sh~t hole.
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TrevorC : 6/9/2023 4:28 pm : link
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Sabrina's Cafe near the art museum. The portions are insane and the food is awesome



I would do Silk City. Not only is the menu absolutely terrific, but the decor is wild and its only a ten min cab/uber right from the art museum. Outdoor bar is probably open by now.

Sabrinas is good, but Silk is insane.



Comfort and Floyd is the best breakfast in the city. I'll die on this hill.


Mis C&F just breakfast? Or is it brunch? Because I was going with brunch, plus the bar, plus the greak patio/beer garden.

Is Honey's still around? Because that place made great breakfast too.

Wanna get drunk? Go to Loco Pez and have a street dog.

Philly's food scene is insane.
RE: Thanks for all the great suggestions  
TrevorC : 6/9/2023 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16130614 NYG27 said:
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I'll be with two teenage boys, who one of is really into historic sites.

Question, if I park near the historic sites to visit Liberty Bell, Independence and Congress Halls. How is public transportation from that area to the Art Museums and Rocky statue? Is there a subway\metro that connects the two locations or would it be better to go by car and find parking in that 2nd location.


Unless you want to learn the bus routes, public trans is a problem going from site to site like you mentioned. My advice would be to Uber there. You COULD walk like 20 blocks and just look at Philly. If you get over to fairmount and 15th after the Bell (5th and market), the walk up Fairmount is a nice area. Lots of spots to stop for ice cream and other food. You also got Eastern State Penitentiary which hasnt been mentioned but I heard was cool. Its also right down the street from the Art Museum and Al Capone's cell is on display.

Fairmount might be my favorite part of Philly.
RE: The Liberty Bell...  
5BowlsSoon : 6/9/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16130077 Chris in Philly said:
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is just a bell, but it's still cool to see. Pair that with a timed ticket to Independence Hall and if you want more that sort of thing, both the US Constitution Center and the Independence Museum are worth looking into.

The Rocky statue is by the Art Museum, which is a great museum but you won't have time for it. You can still do the steps and the statue though. Parking is miserable.

Most of the best cheesesteak shops have been mentioned, but most of them are inconvenient to center city. If you want to stay in the general area of independence square, then I would just go to Sonny's. Is it the best? No. But not bad and far better than the tourist traps. Then get dessert at Franklin Fountain down the street. And maybe grab some chocolates for the road at Shanes.

That's a pretty good day with a minimum amount of getting around.


Your answer is awesome….great details provided. I don’t plan on going but if I did, your answer is all I would need. No offense to the others who chimed in. Also, seeing Chris from PHILLY wrote this just makes you seem to be more of a guy in the know.

But that is just me….beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, right?
RE: Thanks for all the great suggestions  
TrevorC : 6/9/2023 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16130614 NYG27 said:
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I'll be with two teenage boys, who one of is really into historic sites.

Question, if I park near the historic sites to visit Liberty Bell, Independence and Congress Halls. How is public transportation from that area to the Art Museums and Rocky statue? Is there a subway\metro that connects the two locations or would it be better to go by car and find parking in that 2nd location.


Unless you want to learn the bus routes, public trans is a problem going from site to site like you mentioned. My advice would be to Uber there. You COULD walk like 20 blocks and just look at Philly. If you get over to fairmount and 15th after the Bell (5th and market), the walk up Fairmount is a nice area. Lots of spots to stop for ice cream and other food. You also got Eastern State Penitentiary which hasnt been mentioned but I heard was cool. Its also right down the street from the Art Museum and Al Capone's cell is on display.

Fairmount might be my favorite part of Philly.
Thanks for the info on transportation  
NYG27 : 6/12/2023 1:12 pm : link
Not interested in taking any buses but getting familiar with the subway lines. From the looks of it, we should be able to visit most of the things we wanted to visit using the subway system and a short walk.
RE: Thanks for the info on transportation  
Chris in Philly : 6/12/2023 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16131830 NYG27 said:
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Not interested in taking any buses but getting familiar with the subway lines. From the looks of it, we should be able to visit most of the things we wanted to visit using the subway system and a short walk.


The Art Museum area is the one you will have trouble with there. You should just uber from Independence Mall (where all the revolutionary sites are) to the museum and back. Everything else you can walk to.
Sorry to hijack  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2023 1:27 pm : link
but I'm headed to Philly tomorrow - Thursday for work, is the overpass collapse snarling traffic terribly?

I may take the train if it is.
RE: Sorry to hijack  
Chris in Philly : 6/12/2023 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16131844 pjcas18 said:
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but I'm headed to Philly tomorrow - Thursday for work, is the overpass collapse snarling traffic terribly?

I may take the train if it is.


It's brutal if you are coming down 95. We haven't seen how the other routes will be affected yet. But I would take the turnpike all the way down and cross over the Walt Whitman or Ben Franklin Bridge. The other alternative is to take exit 6 and follow the PA turnpike to 476S and come down that way around the city. Depends on what part of the area you need to get too. Just avoid 95.
RE: RE: Sorry to hijack  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2023 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16131845 Chris in Philly said:
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but I'm headed to Philly tomorrow - Thursday for work, is the overpass collapse snarling traffic terribly?

I may take the train if it is.



It's brutal if you are coming down 95. We haven't seen how the other routes will be affected yet. But I would take the turnpike all the way down and cross over the Walt Whitman or Ben Franklin Bridge. The other alternative is to take exit 6 and follow the PA turnpike to 476S and come down that way around the city. Depends on what part of the area you need to get too. Just avoid 95.


I'm headed to Logan Square (basically)

Was  
DanMetroMan : 6/12/2023 1:38 pm : link
in Philly this weekend, Monk's Cafe is awesome
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Chris in Philly : 6/12/2023 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16131848 pjcas18 said:
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but I'm headed to Philly tomorrow - Thursday for work, is the overpass collapse snarling traffic terribly?

I may take the train if it is.



It's brutal if you are coming down 95. We haven't seen how the other routes will be affected yet. But I would take the turnpike all the way down and cross over the Walt Whitman or Ben Franklin Bridge. The other alternative is to take exit 6 and follow the PA turnpike to 476S and come down that way around the city. Depends on what part of the area you need to get too. Just avoid 95.



I'm headed to Logan Square (basically)


Yeah the Whitman or Franklin will be your best bet. But I am guessing volume will be higher than normal. Give yourself some extra time.
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Chris in Philly : 6/12/2023 1:40 pm : link
In comment 16131852 DanMetroMan said:
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in Philly this weekend, Monk's Cafe is awesome


Did you blow up the overpass?

Yes, Monk's is terrific.
RE: Was  
GF1080 : 6/12/2023 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16131852 DanMetroMan said:
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in Philly this weekend, Monk's Cafe is awesome


One of the countries best beer bars!

Have to go to Philly Thursday also but more near Manayunk. Will take 1 to the PA Turnpike I think.
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TrevorC : 6/12/2023 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16131848 pjcas18 said:
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but I'm headed to Philly tomorrow - Thursday for work, is the overpass collapse snarling traffic terribly?

I may take the train if it is.



It's brutal if you are coming down 95. We haven't seen how the other routes will be affected yet. But I would take the turnpike all the way down and cross over the Walt Whitman or Ben Franklin Bridge. The other alternative is to take exit 6 and follow the PA turnpike to 476S and come down that way around the city. Depends on what part of the area you need to get too. Just avoid 95.



I'm headed to Logan Square (basically)


Personally, I would recommend the train. But there is a bus (Mega/Bolt) that does from Boston to Baltimore. Chris is right, taking the blue route (Penn Tpke/476-> 76E) is another option and takes you along the Schuylkill which is def a nicer drive. Avoid rush hour around that "Conshy curve" as it can be very slow.

Also, if you go that way, you can hit up D'Alessandros for a steak on the way out of the city!
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TrevorC : 6/12/2023 1:54 pm : link
In comment 16131855 Chris in Philly said:
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in Philly this weekend, Monk's Cafe is awesome



Did you blow up the overpass?

Yes, Monk's is terrific.


I used to work near Monk's and would go there for my lumch break. After a burger and one of those big Belgian beers, going back to work was....tough.
Thanks  
pjcas18 : 6/12/2023 2:08 pm : link
for the advice.
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