Starting Lineups for both clubs today
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups today at the Braves & tomorrow at the Pirates
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Notes:
-The Mets are now two games below .500 now, with a record of 30-32 and are in 3rd place in the NL East sitting outside of the playoff picture by 2.5 games.
-Alonso's OK after yesterday's wrist incident, but Buck's keeping him out of the lineup as a precaution.
-All three of the three kids are in the lineup today, most likely due to Alonso's injury yesterday (I think this is only the 4th or 5th time they've been in the lineup together since they've all been brought up to the Show).
-Vogelbach is sitting; Alvarez is DHing in his place and is batting 2nd today.
-Vientos is playing 1B in Alonso's place today and is hitting 9th.
-Baty's hitting 5th and is at 3B today while Pham is hitting 7th and is in LF.
-Narvaez is catching today and is batting 8th on the order.
-It'd be nice if the Mets could salvage a game today against the Barfs and not get swept.
-The Mets' 4-man bench today is Canha, Vogelbach, Escobar, & Alonso.
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MLB - Week 11 of 27 - National League Playoff Picture 
I don’t know how anyone can feel anything but dread at this juncture.
Least enjoyable team ever.
Nothing in between is going to work.
I know Vientos doesn’t have the AB’s but what I’ve seen thus far he looks over matched as he did in his stint last season.
But Vogelsnacks can swing at NOTHING but earns the managers trust? Vientos could go 0-20 and I would still bat him over Peter Griffin.
Nothing in between is going to work.
1,000%
Game Over
I know Vientos doesn’t have the AB’s but what I’ve seen thus far he looks over matched as he did in his stint last season.
When he first came up this year I completely disagree... he was on the ball hitting it harder than anyone else on the Mets...
Last few sporadic starts? Maybe
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how many times do we have to watch them fail to get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs?!
I know Vientos doesn’t have the AB’s but what I’ve seen thus far he looks over matched as he did in his stint last season.
When he first came up this year I completely disagree... he was on the ball hitting it harder than anyone else on the Mets...
Last few sporadic starts? Maybe
Exactly - let the kid play. Why else keep him here? Buck fucked this up big time. And why….to make sure Vogelshit get his ABs??
I didn’t think I could despise a manager more that Terry Collins….Buck proved me wrong. This is a good team that’s ruined by the manager and FO.
No way.
Not until Buck commits to playing the kid.
All that would happen in this scenario is Mauricio's development and confidence would be ruined too.
Something has to change before they completely come off the tracks.
Unfortunately
pjcas18 : 8:47 pm : link : reply
the Mets have shown no lead is safe with this bullpen.
Eppler needs to get fired for all these bad signings and trades.
They need to send a message.
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The #Mets have lost six consecutive games for the first time since August 23-29, 2019.
And why would he? There are better teams on the west coast (where he wants to be) that can pay him a ransom as well. Keeping Eppler for the sole reason to sign a player we won’t get is Wilpon-level ineptitude.
Proud that they scored 10 runs and lost like that?! What a bad look!
Unfortunately he won’t
For the first time in Mets franchise history they’ve lost three straight games in which they had at least a 3-run lead.
as crappy as buck has been (very crappy) eppler deserves all blame for a game like this, and this series, because it was all on the BP. he had 2 or 3 slots in the BP he could have spent $ on even before Diaz injury where he brought in about 10 guys to compete and they have all been garbage. the OD roster had curtiss, santana, nogosek, and hunter on it. brigham hasn't been any better (or any of the other guys they've called up).
just a misevaluated roster across the board from last year's trade deadline on.
hasn't found a competent DH in 2 years or given vientos shot.
gave up holderman for the robust pillsbury dont swing boy.
let their most reliable starter (bassitt) walk despite a pretty reasonable contract.
let lugo walk without a phone call.
and the manager has been in denial of teams whose confidence has been shattered for whatever reason going back 4 months of baseball in a row to canhas homer vs philly.
season isnt over but if they dont find a way to change whatever is wrong within the organization it will be soon. there is a fracture somewhere in the clubhouse that is coming out on the field, and buck is one of the highest paid managers in the league because he's supposed to be in command of that type of thing. i dont know what the move is to change things but if there are veterans pissed their playing got cut, cutting them would be a good place to start.
This is the most frustrating Mets team I have had the displeasure of watching in quite some time. Maybe ever.
Get hot in September and make the playoffs.
Tonight was miserable for y’all but won’t matter come October.
Tell me you know nothing about Buck without saying you know nothing about Buck.
And he actually won 101 games last season - choked away the division - and got embarrassed out of the WC round.
But yeah - the 101 wins is cool too. Buck sucks.
Eppler and Buck are both terrible, both should go.
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For the first time in Mets franchise history they’ve lost three straight games in which they had at least a 3-run lead.
as crappy as buck has been (very crappy) eppler deserves all blame for a game like this, and this series, because it was all on the BP. he had 2 or 3 slots in the BP he could have spent $ on even before Diaz injury where he brought in about 10 guys to compete and they have all been garbage. the OD roster had curtiss, santana, nogosek, and hunter on it. brigham hasn't been any better (or any of the other guys they've called up).
just a misevaluated roster across the board from last year's trade deadline on.
hasn't found a competent DH in 2 years or given vientos shot.
gave up holderman for the robust pillsbury dont swing boy.
let their most reliable starter (bassitt) walk despite a pretty reasonable contract.
let lugo walk without a phone call.
and the manager has been in denial of teams whose confidence has been shattered for whatever reason going back 4 months of baseball in a row to canhas homer vs philly.
season isnt over but if they dont find a way to change whatever is wrong within the organization it will be soon. there is a fracture somewhere in the clubhouse that is coming out on the field, and buck is one of the highest paid managers in the league because he's supposed to be in command of that type of thing. i dont know what the move is to change things but if there are veterans pissed their playing got cut, cutting them would be a good place to start.
Well said, Eric.
The dearth of legitimate arms in the BP is so ridiculously glaring. The Lugo thing, as you hit on, is as curious as it gets.
While we can keep repeating the old platitude, “it’s still early” I prefer the old Yogiism, it got late early.
Jon Heyman
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There’s real concern Pete Alonso hits the Injured List. He may miss a few weeks.
Jon Heyman
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There’s real concern Pete Alonso hits the Injured List. He may miss a few weeks.
I thought he was ok? WTF?
The writing was on the wall when Alonso flew back to NY for additional tests in the middle of the road trip. A 10-15 day absence would be good news at this point. 6-8 weeks would be a disaster.
One worrisome thing about these types of injuries to hand/wrist is that even when the player is back and "healthy" the power often doesn't quite come back for a while after.
I’m not a Buck fan, but in this case, what was he supposed to do? Not only was this an awful loss, but Verlander burned the bullpen going into Pitt. Does anyone think Megill is going to give them 6 innings tonight?
Eppler is responsible for this mess. They can fire Buck, I’ve always thought he was the most overrated manager in MLB, but personnel is the main issue. His deadline trades last year smacked of desperation then, and are looking worse every game.
Jon Heyman
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There’s real concern Pete Alonso hits the Injured List. He may miss a few weeks.
it's certainly not good to lose alonso, but they scored 10 without him last night for the first time in forever against strider. they have enough talent to score runs without him- they need guys who havent been pulling their weight to start doing so. which is basically every vet on the roster other than alonso.