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robbieballs2003 : 6/9/2023 11:34 am
There is this new rumor. Hmmm.
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RE: I can't shake this feeling of optimism  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/19/2023 2:18 pm : link
In comment 16135475 djm said:
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that RJ has truly found his stroke and delivery. If you glance at the stats they don't reflect that. He shot 43% from the field, 31% from 3 during the regular season. 43% from the field, 32% from 3 during the postseason. Identical. But he was 6-25 those first 2 games followed by 65-139 the rest of the way.

And now that I type that out it still feels like weird sample sizes to prove something that may not exist. I don't know, he just looked more comfortable shooting and scoring after those first 2 playoff games and they said RJ did tinker with his release point. It looked to me like that change in his shot really worked. But who knows.


I felt better about RJ after the postseason than I ever felt about him during his first four seasons. He really stepped up and played big time basketball in big spots, including carrying the team at times in multiple games. His overall numbers were weighed down by three bad games, but he was very good overall. I would need a no doubt top of the sport star to consider trading him. (For example, Bradley Beal wasn’t that.)
RJ did look composed in a lot of the post season games, which  
Heisenberg : 6/19/2023 2:38 pm : link
was a good development. But reading into his shooting stats and looking for anything good is probably a fools errand. He just hasn't shown any statistical improvement mainly because he's so inconsistent. The only clear improvement I see is his finishing is better than it was.

He still contributes enough that he's not a problem but he's also a place where the Knicks could look to improve.
But that's who RJ is  
widmerseyebrow : 6/19/2023 2:43 pm : link
He has flashes of putting it all together followed by streaks of being a professional brick layer. His averages are what they are. I give him credit for having one of his hot streaks when we needed it most, but history says we shouldn't think he has "turned a corner" because of a few good games in a row.
There is an internet rumor FWIW  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 3:39 pm : link
that Kat and his fiance are looking for a place in manhattan and it is said to b3 "urgent"..
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DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 3:43 pm : link
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The Celtics do not intend to trade Jaylen Brown and all signs continue to point toward Brown signing a five-year, $295 million super-max extension with Boston, per @AdamHimmelsbach
RE: There is an internet rumor FWIW  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 3:43 pm : link
In comment 16135503 nygiants16 said:
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that Kat and his fiance are looking for a place in manhattan and it is said to b3 "urgent"..


That's a weird rumor. Even if he were about to be traded, what rush would he be in to find a place to live? Not buying it.
RE: RE: There is an internet rumor FWIW  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16135505 DanMetroMan said:
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that Kat and his fiance are looking for a place in manhattan and it is said to b3 "urgent"..



That's a weird rumor. Even if he were about to be traded, what rush would he be in to find a place to live? Not buying it.


yeah its weird, but figure pass it along
lol  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 3:59 pm : link
Chris Paul confirms Isiah is running the show in Phoenix
RE: RE: I can't shake this feeling of optimism  
djm : 6/19/2023 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16135477 KayvonOjulari515 said:
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In comment 16135475 djm said:


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that RJ has truly found his stroke and delivery. If you glance at the stats they don't reflect that. He shot 43% from the field, 31% from 3 during the regular season. 43% from the field, 32% from 3 during the postseason. Identical. But he was 6-25 those first 2 games followed by 65-139 the rest of the way.

And now that I type that out it still feels like weird sample sizes to prove something that may not exist. I don't know, he just looked more comfortable shooting and scoring after those first 2 playoff games and they said RJ did tinker with his release point. It looked to me like that change in his shot really worked. But who knows.



The RJ situation is a tough one. I thought he played the best basketball of his career after the first two games of the Cleveland. He drove to the basket and finished with authority. His outside shot was still inconsistent, and he had a bad Game 6 against the Heat. Do you believe RJ has turned a corner and can develop into a 38% shoot three point shooter or is it possible that the playoffs this season will make RJ Barrett's trade value higher than it ever will be? I personally don't think RJ will ever be a good enough outside shooter. I would trade him as the centerpiece in a package for LaVine who is a far better offensive player.


Can't argue that take either. I am really on the fence. I think I will just put my faith in WWW/Rose and Thibs and see what they to do here. I have always liked LaVine.
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djm : 6/19/2023 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16135504 DanMetroMan said:
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The Celtics do not intend to trade Jaylen Brown and all signs continue to point toward Brown signing a five-year, $295 million super-max extension with Boston, per @AdamHimmelsbach


Never any doubt in my view. Brown isn't going anywhere. Neither is Tatum.
RE: lol  
djm : 6/19/2023 4:31 pm : link
In comment 16135511 DanMetroMan said:
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Chris Paul confirms Isiah is running the show in Phoenix


Isiah Thomas?
RE: RE: lol  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 4:33 pm : link
In comment 16135524 djm said:
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Chris Paul confirms Isiah is running the show in Phoenix



Isiah Thomas?


Yup.
Draymond  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 4:34 pm : link
flirting with signing with the Lakers. Probably just fucking around on social media but who knows?
Begley  
DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 4:57 pm : link
NBACentral
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Recent off-court events surrounding Zion Williamson have shocked high-ranking members of the Pelicans organization.

“High-ranking members of the organization have been dismayed by recent off-court developments around Williamson, as other outlets have noted. The organization recently fired assistant coach Teresa Weatherspoon, a Naismith Hall of Famer, who was instrumental in the development of several young Pelicans, including Williamson. Those reading the tea leaves may surmise that Weatherspoon’s firing was related to the team’s issues with Williamson.”
its eerily quiet with the knicks  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 5:26 pm : link
no real rumors, no real targets, some speculation but nothing sourced
RE: its eerily quiet with the knicks  
Strahan91 : 6/19/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16135544 nygiants16 said:
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no real rumors, no real targets, some speculation but nothing sourced

This time last year the big rumor was that they were going to trade their frp for Malcolm Brogdon so it's still quite early
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DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 5:41 pm : link
Deandre Ayton was requested by Washington in the Beal trade, but the Suns declined to include him, per @Gambo987
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Strahan91 : 6/19/2023 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16135554 DanMetroMan said:
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Deandre Ayton was requested by Washington in the Beal trade, but the Suns declined to include him, per @Gambo987

The Bartelstein conflict of interest in this trade Seems like it should lead to some sort of investigation. Not that I would expect that to happen or anything to come of it if it did given how soft Silver is
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DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 6:06 pm : link
The Bulls would be focused on getting a good young player, multiple first-round picks and salary filler if they decide to trade Zach LaVine, per @KCJHoop

Like it nor not, if that’s the ask the two teams do match up well…
RE: RE: its eerily quiet with the knicks  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 6:07 pm : link
In comment 16135549 Strahan91 said:
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no real rumors, no real targets, some speculation but nothing sourced


This time last year the big rumor was that they were going to trade their frp for Malcolm Brogdon so it's still quite early


Yeah true, just figured there woukd be something out there
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nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 6:08 pm : link
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The Bulls would be focused on getting a good young player, multiple first-round picks and salary filler if they decide to trade Zach LaVine, per
@KCJHoop
Sure seems doable for the Knicks.  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2023 6:23 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/19/2023 6:51 pm : link
So the Bulls are going to reup Vooch, but might trade LaVine? Who is running that operation...the same idiots who gave Beal a NTC?
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DanMetroMan : 6/19/2023 6:55 pm : link
Before Bradley Beal was dealt to Phoenix in a blockbuster trade, he had other suitors in New York.

The Knicks were “in heavy for a while” for the Washington All-Star, The Athletic reported Sunday.

The report also mentioned the Heat, Celtics, Bucks and Kings as other teams that made a play or were interested in Beal.


-“They’re not hoping for patience, they’re hoping for The Process. I don’t know if that’s coming, but they’ve looked at that situation in Philly and there’s been a hope in New York that stuff in Philly will go haywire to the point where Embiid will ask out,” ESPN’s Tim MacMahon said on “The Hoop Collective” podcast over three weeks ago.

RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16135578 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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So the Bulls are going to reup Vooch, but might trade LaVine? Who is running that operation...the same idiots who gave Beal a NTC?


It doesnt work with Lavine and Derozan, and they can probably get good deoth and picka in a deal for Lavine over Derozan
nygiants16.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/19/2023 7:08 pm : link
Fair, but what's their endgame? That roster is going nowhere & Demar isn't a spring chicken. The Ball injury really killed them, but who knows if he'll ever play again?
RE: nygiants16.  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16135588 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Fair, but what's their endgame? That roster is going nowhere & Demar isn't a spring chicken. The Ball injury really killed them, but who knows if he'll ever play again?


Derozan will probably be gone by the deadline or at the end of the year, he is an expiring..

I saw reports they were talking to vucevic but id be shocked if they resigned him, it just doesnt make sense..

Knicks are supposedly an option for Paul  
nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 7:14 pm : link
if he is bought out
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nygiants16 : 6/19/2023 7:16 pm : link
John Gambadoro, Arizona Sports 98.7: "I had a player tell me yesterday to watch out for the Knicks. It’s hard to believe that…I still think the Lakers & Clippers probably…I wouldn’t rule out the Knicks only because a player told me he was hearing they’re a good option for Chris…"
RE: Knicks are supposedly an option for Paul  
Enzo : 6/19/2023 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16135590 nygiants16 said:
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if he is bought out

we could also just trade for him.
RE: ...  
Enzo : 6/19/2023 9:36 pm : link
In comment 16135578 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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So the Bulls are going to reup Vooch, but might trade LaVine? Who is running that operation...the same idiots who gave Beal a NTC?

I think they may just re-sign Vucevic with the hope that they can trade him down the road (probably as soon as this coming season). Even if they let him walk, I don't think they have meaningful cap space. They may be better off keeping him and then trying to trade him - assuming there's a market for him.
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DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 10:23 am : link
The Timberwolves want him back. That is true from the very top of the organization down through the front office and coaching staff. Taylor, Marc and Rodriguez are all on board with trying to get Naz Reid back, sources told The Athletic. The discussions on a contract have gone on all season and will continue. It has gotten to the point where free agency is so close that Reid almost has to dip his toe in the water to see where the market is before he makes a decision. But the Wolves are very much alive in this situation, which was made even clearer by his presence at the practice facility on Monday.
– via Jon Krawczynski @ The Athletic
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DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 10:26 am : link
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Obi Toppin is a name to watch on the trade market, per @SBondyNYDN


“A source said Toppin was frustrated at times with his role, although he refrained from complaining to the media.”
Lillard  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 10:30 am : link
"liked" a post suggesting Zion to the Blazers.
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16135706 DanMetroMan said:
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The Timberwolves want him back. That is true from the very top of the organization down through the front office and coaching staff. Taylor, Marc and Rodriguez are all on board with trying to get Naz Reid back, sources told The Athletic. The discussions on a contract have gone on all season and will continue. It has gotten to the point where free agency is so close that Reid almost has to dip his toe in the water to see where the market is before he makes a decision. But the Wolves are very much alive in this situation, which was made even clearer by his presence at the practice facility on Monday.
– via Jon Krawczynski @ The Athletic


Twolves are a delusional franchise, do nothing a year ago so yes lets run it back
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nygiants16 : 6/20/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16135708 DanMetroMan said:
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Obi Toppin is a name to watch on the trade market, per @SBondyNYDN


“A source said Toppin was frustrated at times with his role, although he refrained from complaining to the media.”


Obi is going to hurt to see go, but for this team you need a big 3 and d wing in that spot off the bench
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Anakim : 6/20/2023 10:39 am : link
In comment 16135708 DanMetroMan said:
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Obi Toppin is a name to watch on the trade market, per @SBondyNYDN


“A source said Toppin was frustrated at times with his role, although he refrained from complaining to the media.”


Or we could just trade Randle? Problem solved.
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Enzo : 6/20/2023 10:48 am : link
In comment 16135712 nygiants16 said:
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The Timberwolves want him back. That is true from the very top of the organization down through the front office and coaching staff. Taylor, Marc and Rodriguez are all on board with trying to get Naz Reid back, sources told The Athletic. The discussions on a contract have gone on all season and will continue. It has gotten to the point where free agency is so close that Reid almost has to dip his toe in the water to see where the market is before he makes a decision. But the Wolves are very much alive in this situation, which was made even clearer by his presence at the practice facility on Monday.
– via Jon Krawczynski @ The Athletic



Twolves are a delusional franchise, do nothing a year ago so yes lets run it back

KAT barely played last year. They're likely to at least see that this team looks like when healthy before making any major moves.
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Strahan91 : 6/20/2023 10:54 am : link
In comment 16135712 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16135706 DanMetroMan said:


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The Timberwolves want him back. That is true from the very top of the organization down through the front office and coaching staff. Taylor, Marc and Rodriguez are all on board with trying to get Naz Reid back, sources told The Athletic. The discussions on a contract have gone on all season and will continue. It has gotten to the point where free agency is so close that Reid almost has to dip his toe in the water to see where the market is before he makes a decision. But the Wolves are very much alive in this situation, which was made even clearer by his presence at the practice facility on Monday.
– via Jon Krawczynski @ The Athletic



Twolves are a delusional franchise, do nothing a year ago so yes lets run it back

I assumed this was about Naz Reid, not Towns. It makes sense to try and retain Reid if you're going to deal Towns
Yeah  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 10:57 am : link
I mean theoretically KAT/Edwards give them 2 superstars to build around, Gobert is Gobert, McDaniels is a good young player, Reid is they keep him is a good young player. I actually can't fault them too much (especially given up what they did for Gobert). The league appears to be "wide open". If you told me the Wolves made a run next season I wouldn't be shocked.
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DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 11:02 am : link
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Portland won’t trade the No. 3 pick unless it nets one of a several premium targets to pair with Damian Lillard, league sources told @YahooSports
. The Blazers are preparing a significant offer for Miami’s Bam Adebayo, and other notes from around the NBA:
Nothing  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 11:04 am : link
Knicks related but interesting stuff (linked)
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RE: Nothing  
Strahan91 : 6/20/2023 11:13 am : link
In comment 16135726 DanMetroMan said:
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Knicks related but interesting stuff (linked) Link - ( New Window )

Don't know if this is a controversial take but personally I'd rather have Siakam than Bam if I were Portland and certainly over Paul George given his age and injury history.
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Anakim : 6/20/2023 11:48 am : link
In comment 16135725 DanMetroMan said:
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Portland won’t trade the No. 3 pick unless it nets one of a several premium targets to pair with Damian Lillard, league sources told @YahooSports
. The Blazers are preparing a significant offer for Miami’s Bam Adebayo, and other notes from around the NBA:


Take Randle!
RE: RE: Nothing  
nygiants16 : 6/20/2023 11:50 am : link
In comment 16135731 Strahan91 said:
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Knicks related but interesting stuff (linked) Link - ( New Window )


Don't know if this is a controversial take but personally I'd rather have Siakam than Bam if I were Portland and certainly over Paul George given his age and injury history.


They probably plan on resigning Grant and view them as playing the same position..

Bam replacing Nurkic upgrades their defense significantly
The  
DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 11:51 am : link
article more than implies Bam is almost certainly not being traded.
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DanMetroMan : 6/20/2023 11:54 am : link
The Athletic
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NEWS: It is unlikely that Zion Williamson is traded before the NBA Draft, league sources tell The Athletic.

But behind-the-scenes tensions between Williamson and the Pelicans have intensified over the past few months, @WillGuillory
reports.
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djm : 6/20/2023 1:53 pm : link
In comment 16135716 Anakim said:
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NBACentral
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Obi Toppin is a name to watch on the trade market, per @SBondyNYDN


“A source said Toppin was frustrated at times with his role, although he refrained from complaining to the media.”



Or we could just trade Randle? Problem solved.


Actually it creates a huge problem and one you refuse to ever acknowledge. Cool, Obi now can play 30-40 min a night. Never mind that the Knicks are worse. Problem solved? No.
RE: Nothing  
djm : 6/20/2023 2:00 pm : link
In comment 16135726 DanMetroMan said:
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Knicks related but interesting stuff (linked) Link - ( New Window )


I enjoyed the article but so many of these articles or buzz make Portland out to be this team that holds all the cards. They hold Liliard who has openly said he doesn't want to leave and they have the 3rd pick, which admittedly is a nice chip to hold. Outside of 1-2 decent trade chips, what do they really have? They plan on building a contender? They don't have shit. They aren't building shit unless they draft a plug and play legendary talent.

I remember seeing KNicks articles like this back in the day when the KNicks had nothing yet the articles implied that so many potential moves were on the horizon. Granted, Portland has a little more than nothing, but it aint much.

OK great they trade the 3rd pick for Bam and something else? OK and? They'd still suck.
take this line  
djm : 6/20/2023 2:04 pm : link
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Zach LaVine, the Bulls All-Star guard who flirted with Portland as he reached unrestricted free agency last June, also does not appear to be a legitimate target for the Blazers.


How the hell would they even get LaVine? I understand the article says not a legit target, but they literally don't have shit to offer. Again, start and end with that 3rd pick. That's all they have and they won't do that. I guess the article is doing what it should to dump cold water but all this buzz about Portland needs to be a little more brutally honest.

Portland needs to do something crazy because conventional trades won't do it for them. They don't have the firepower. Trade for Zion.
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