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NFT: Mets @ Pirates: Game 1 - Megill (R) vs Hill (L) - 7:05pm EDT

Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 4:59 pm

Starting Lineups for both clubs today
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups today at the Pirates today and tomorrow
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-Alonso's been placed on the IL and Guillorme's been called up in his place (see tweet below for more details).
-Vientos is DHing & Canha's at 1B.
-Baty's not in the lineup tonight against the southpaw Hill.
-The Mets' 4-man bench today is Baty, Guillorme, Vogelbach, & Narvaez.
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Tweet from Mike Mayer @mikemayer22 - 4:35 PM · June 9, 2023
Here are a couple of more tweets:  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 5:11 pm : link

SNY Mets @SNY_Mets - Pete Alonso is expected to miss 3-4 weeks with a left wrist bone bruise and sprain - 4:36 PM · June 9, 2023
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Twwet - Mike Puma @NYPost_Mets - Tomas Nido cleared waivers and will accept an outright to Syracuse if he is not traded. | 4:22 PM · June 9, 2023 from Pittsburgh, PA 49.1K Views
I found this tweet humerous...  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 5:21 pm : link

Tweet - LFGM @Mets__Moments - 4:41 PM · June 9, 2023 · 217 Views
Bet they lose 2 out of 3  
Sammo85 : 6/9/2023 5:31 pm : link
Pirates have come back to earth, but they are much better than in past few years and have had stretches of solid fundamental ball.

Megill and Senga need to give really good starts and length (ie, six plus or seven in both). This bullpen won't hold if it has to cover more than 3 innings over extended series the way it is now.
Here are some articles:  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 6:28 pm : link
MMO GAME THREAD: METS VS PIRATES, 7:05 PM - Posted by Elliot Teichman | Jun 9, 2023

Mets vs. Pirates: Lineups, broadcast info, and open thread, 6/9/23: The Mets limp into Pittsburgh after losing six straight to try to turn things around. - By Allison McCague | @PetitePhD | Jun 9, 2023 | 6:05pm EDT

Mets call up Luis Guillorme and Zach Muckenhirn, DFA Stephen Nogosek: The news comes in the wake of Alonso’s IL stint, which is the headliner among the team’s afternoon announcements. - By Vasilis Drimalitis | @vasdrimalitis | Jun 9, 2023, 4:55pm EDT

PETE ALONSO PLACED ON IL WITH BONE BRUISE, RECALL LUIS GUILLORME - Posted by Michael Mayer | Jun 9, 2023

SERIES PREVIEW: METS SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS IN PITTSBURGH - Posted by Christian De Block | June 9, 2023

3 takeaways from the Braves' demoralizing sweep of the Mets | By Terrence Jordan | 8:00 AM EDT

3 recent examples of the Mets' medical staff catching injury red flags | By Michael Cahill | Jun 8, 2023

Recent history....  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 6:55 pm : link

Tweet - Mike Janela @MikeJanela - 9:56 AM · June 9, 2023 · 71.1K Views
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/9/2023 6:57 pm : link
Old man is in Pittsburgh for this series. The first time he's been to PNC, which I think is the best ballpark in the league with an amazing backdrop of the downtown skyline.
Here are links to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 7:10 pm : link
Mets at Pirates | 7:05 pm EDT start - June 9, 2023 - TV Broadcast: Mets' feed - SNY: Gary, Ron, & Zeile (volokit2.com)

Mets at Pirates | 7:05 pm EDT start - June 9, 2023 - TV Broadcast: Pirates' feed (volokit2.com)

MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch - Mets at Pirates - June 9, 2023 - 7:05 pm EDT start

Enjoy :-)

RE: ...  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 7:11 pm : link
In comment 16130749 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Old man is in Pittsburgh for this series. The first time he's been to PNC, which I think is the best ballpark in the league with an amazing backdrop of the downtown skyline.
Wow. Hope he enjoys it. It looks like an amazing place to see a game.
Optimus.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/9/2023 7:21 pm : link
I've been once. I went with brother in law who is a big Cubs fan in 2017, season after Chicago won it all. It was a lot of fun. A lot of good bars near the park before walking across the Roberto Clemente Bridge to the park. I'd highly recommend getting there sometime.
RE: Optimus.  
Optimus-NY : 6/9/2023 7:26 pm : link
In comment 16130760 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I've been once. I went with brother in law who is a big Cubs fan in 2017, season after Chicago won it all. It was a lot of fun. A lot of good bars near the park before walking across the Roberto Clemente Bridge to the park. I'd highly recommend getting there sometime.


How are the ticket prices? Decent I'd imagine, right?
Optimus.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/9/2023 7:29 pm : link
I can't recall, but I don't think it was outrageous. The Pirates were meh that season & there were a helluva lot more Cubs fans in attendance than Pirates fans.
Vientos  
GF1080 : 6/9/2023 7:34 pm : link
Drives in the first run!
Megill  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2023 8:02 pm : link
is no bueno.
Esco  
GF1080 : 6/9/2023 8:02 pm : link
Man this team is hard to watch. Trying to still be optimistic but I just don't see it with them.
Why are we watching?  
Stufftherun : 6/9/2023 8:04 pm : link
Oh yeah, it’s the old ya have to turn and look at the accident as you drive by.
Team  
GF1080 : 6/9/2023 8:04 pm : link
I'm glad Buck is proud of them. 7-2 and need to go to pen again shortly...
This team is garbage  
Sammo85 : 6/9/2023 8:08 pm : link
from the top down.
I don't know how many more  
larryflower37 : 6/9/2023 8:13 pm : link
I have in me, they are finding new ways to lose.
Need Lucchesi, Butto  
spike : 6/9/2023 8:22 pm : link
up here in a hurry.
Game over  
spike : 6/9/2023 8:25 pm : link
Empty the pen! Let Volgie bat 100 times
RE: Need Lucchesi, Butto  
pjcas18 : 6/9/2023 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16130795 spike said:
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up here in a hurry.


Lucchesi. lol.

man, when you have a $345M payroll and you're begging the Mets to re-call a pitcher with a 5+ FIP to replace the pitchers currently in the rotation.

Is this rock bottom?

One of my biggest fears is because the Mets still can see a path to contention that Eppler, in fear for his job, trades prospects for "help" and pours gas on this fire and does more longer term damage.
RE: RE: Need Lucchesi, Butto  
larryflower37 : 6/9/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16130798 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16130795 spike said:


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up here in a hurry.



Lucchesi. lol.

man, when you have a $345M payroll and you're begging the Mets to re-call a pitcher with a 5+ FIP to replace the pitchers currently in the rotation.

Is this rock bottom?

One of my biggest fears is because the Mets still can see a path to contention that Eppler, in fear for his job, trades prospects for "help" and pours gas on this fire and does more longer term damage.


Please no!
It's why he should let go now before the deadline
Lol, skipped this game and glad I did. The Mets  
CooperDash : 6/9/2023 8:54 pm : link
are unwatchable. Buck and Eppler have done a great job taking a good team and making them an absolute joke.. This team is going nowhere and fast. Can’t wait for these morons to be gone from this team.
2 runs against the 43 year old Rich Hill  
CooperDash : 6/9/2023 9:28 pm : link
LMAO

Buck has his team playing inspired baseball! And if the reason we are keeping these ineffective vets (and playing them so much) is because they are great in the clubhouse - then they are doing a really shitty job.

If anyone is sitting here expecting a Braves or Philly-like run like last season…lol, have fun with that dream. Not even remotely the same teams or FO.
Gary Sanchez  
spike : 6/9/2023 9:29 pm : link
Sánchez in 10 games as a Padre: .297/.341/.757, five HRs, 188 wRC+
Blue Jays just released Anthony Bass RP  
spike : 6/9/2023 9:32 pm : link
Bass, 35, was acquired from the Marlins at last year’s trade deadline. Between the two clubs, he posted a 1.54 ERA on the season. The Blue Jays exercised a $3MM club option to keep him around for 2023 but his results have taken a step back this season, as he has a 4.95 ERA thus far. His 26.5% strikeout rate from last year is down to 21.6% here in 2023, his walk rate has gone from 7.3% to 10.2% and his ground ball rate from 41.2% to 38.3%.

Kick the tires?
Braves Lefty RP Lucas Luetge  
spike : 6/9/2023 9:38 pm : link
also was DFA'ed this week.

Hefner  
spike : 6/9/2023 9:49 pm : link
has to be on the hot seat
RE: Gary Sanchez  
KDavies : 6/10/2023 7:24 am : link
In comment 16130823 spike said:
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Sánchez in 10 games as a Padre: .297/.341/.757, five HRs, 188 wRC+


So what? We’re the Mets supposed to keep him over Narvaez? Or Alvarez? Or DH him?
Bass would be a definite upgrade  
KDavies : 6/10/2023 7:26 am : link
Luetge might be as well. SSS this year. Would be fine adding him. Should be noted Bass might be blacklisted by some teams for PC reasons. Look it up, as I don’t think it can be discussed on this forum
Mets fans  
spike : 6/10/2023 9:34 am : link
showing more fight in the stands than the team on the field last night.

https://twitter.com/JamesSantelli/status/1667347201641652225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1667347201641652225%7Ctwgr%5E6edc4970d558718167f8e062f64caa90683d360b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2023%2F06%2F09%2Fmets-pirates-fans-brawl-in-stands-during-blowout%2F
Brawlin in the Stands - ( New Window )
Where do they go from here?  
dannysection 313 : 6/10/2023 9:49 am : link
At four games under, management will certainly not throw the towel in on the season, but they should be realistic about their chance for a wild card spot moving forward.

Yes, that math says there is time, but most teams who reach almost half way and are a number of games back, do not make the play-offs...that is the rule.

There are a number of places and players to blame here, to me the biggest disappointment has been JVL, with Max a close second.

The Mets had a huge game (if there is such a thing in June) game three against Atlanta, they had their "ace" on the mound, scored 10 runs....and lost. And, the night before had their other "ace" on the mound, had a three run lead, lost, and taxed the bullpen.

So, their top two pitchers (getting paid north on 90 million this season), pitched a total of 8 1/3 innings, and gave up 10 runs. And taxed the bullpen

The bull pen is a disaster too, but you can make changes there; you can't fire JVL/Meager Max.

Why is Tommy Hunter still a Met? Is there no one better than him in the minors?

Why does Vogelbach get any AB's and why is he still on the team? He's a DH only who is hitting for no power, can't play the field and clogs the bases up when he walks, which is his specialty.

Time to replace Megill with somebody...Luccesi threw 7 shut out innings, pitched OK his other starts...why not pitch him instead of Mcgill?

Play the kids every day, do not trade any of them at the deadline and try to trade Meager Max (who spit the bit in his two biggest games as a Met last year-game 159 against Atlanta, game 1 play-offs against SD).

When the crowds at CitiField thin and no one is buying $16 burgers, or paying $40 to park, Uncle Steve will really be upset. Yes, there is a chance things will change, but empty seats, more than anything, get the owner's attention.

Firing Eppler does nothing in terms of player performance and its hard to believe Uncle Stevie will fire Buck, but something has to give, especially if the team is embarrassed by the Yankees next week.

Last night is the first time in years I didn't watch any of the game, or check the score in the middle of the night. Game 3 against Atlanta was way too painful for this long suffering Met fan.

Rant over....

RE: Mets fans  
Optimus-NY : 6/10/2023 9:55 am : link
In comment 16130936 spike said:
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showing more fight in the stands than the team on the field last night.

https://twitter.com/JamesSantelli/status/1667347201641652225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1667347201641652225%7Ctwgr%5E6edc4970d558718167f8e062f64caa90683d360b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2023%2F06%2F09%2Fmets-pirates-fans-brawl-in-stands-during-blowout%2F Brawlin in the Stands - ( New Window )


What a mess.
Does Megill have options left?  
Section331 : 6/10/2023 11:06 am : link
There is no sense in trotting him out there every 5th day, he is just not getting it done. On a night the Mets NEEDED a strong start to save their pen, he delivers his worst start of the season (in a long line of poor starts). Let him work out his issues in Cuse, if he’s out of options, see ya.

Luccesi is a much better option. He’s not great, but he’s crafty, and he battles. Quintana can’t get back soon enough.
I'm starting to wonder if the Mets might be sellers before the trade  
Ira : 6/10/2023 12:07 pm : link
deadline.
Vientos immediately benched after 1/3 + BB game  
Metnut : 6/10/2023 1:15 pm : link
Great job Buck.
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