7th overall pick in 2nd round of the 2023 draft had a pool number of Rockies: $1,868,400, the 7th pick in the 5th round had a pool number of Rangers: $437,900
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
this season has gotten worse because I'm COMPLETELY checked out on the Giants. My GF asked if I wanted to watch the game Sunday and I said "I'm not in the mood". I literally had nothing else I needed to do, I just wasn't "in the mood". I flipped on the game eventually but my sports interest right at this moment are the Mets, my mediocre fantasy team and now the Knicks who I will enjoy but no real title aspirations. I really didn't expect the Giants to be awful.
Wow, Danngets sports headaches. you weren’t in the mood?? I hear ya though, bud.
I’ve occasionally mentioned it in the last. I used to say a baseball junkie needs to experience spring training, buts that’s changed over the years. But for a an uber fan like you, I can suggest enough catching some backfield minor,league games if you ever head down there.
But even better, catch an FCL game. For a guy like you, you’d be a kid in a candy store!!!!
can't just subtract the 5th round pick and suggest it's "nothing" because it's both the player and the pool money. Just because the Mets used their money in 2023 where their 5th rounder got slot doesn't mean anything. The money used to sign ANY of the their over slot signings has to come from somewhere. Ewing/Troesser were picked 1 pick apart, Ewing got 200K over slot, Troesser 120K under. The Mets in 2023 had extra picks, which allowed them to sign over slot players, in years where you don't have extra picks signing over slot players becomes harder, and more so when you're subtracting draft pool money.
I have never seen a 14 year old with a slower trot than this kid.
He’s slow??
No, homerun trot
He jogged out a HR?
No, walked. All of them.
How many?
(Cracks up laughing) ALOT!!!!!!
7th overall pick in 2nd round of the 2023 draft had a pool number of Rockies: $1,868,400, the 7th pick in the 5th round had a pool number of Rangers: $437,900
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
+ 5th round pick and 5th round money, 8th pick in the 5th round was 433,500. So it's far, far closer to 2 million in lost money, 1.93,500 based on 2023's numbers and the pools go up, not down annually.
if there is a SP out there who you think is worth 5 years 100m+, which equates to probably 120 big league starts, you are projecting probably 15-20 fwar in the next 5 years. it is adding another SP expected to be on the level senga pitched this past year. snell, nola,
the odds of getting that amount of production from prospect $ that's roughly equal to sproat, larez, thornton is exponentially lower, and at least 5 years deferred in the future.
and keep in mind that just like sproat/larez, if there are players they like better than them in those classes they will still get them because the penalty is smaller than their highest value choice (first round pick, biggest IFA signing).
100% go for yamamoto/montgomery first but if they go elsewhere don't turn the phone off.
weird dynamic with the Wilpons being on board with this new soccer stadium and Cohen reportedly trying to block the usage of the parking lot (unless he gets his casino...)
7th overall pick in 2nd round of the 2023 draft had a pool number of Rockies: $1,868,400, the 7th pick in the 5th round had a pool number of Rangers: $437,900
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
+ 5th round pick and 5th round money, 8th pick in the 5th round was 433,500. So it's far, far closer to 2 million in lost money, 1.93,500 based on 2023's numbers and the pools go up, not down annually.
the pools go up along with the slot values (which i said) but the value of the prospect is still the same. they lose slot value of their 2nd and 5th highest pick - which their 2nd round and 5th round picks last year approximate closest. unlike last year they arent going to get comp picks for losing players via FA so the picks they are risking should be their 2nd rd pick and 5th rd picks at slot value.
The Mets are down to a few in-person manager interviews and are on track to make a hire within a week, league sources say.
After first-round telephone interviews, the Mets began their in-person interviews on Wednesday with Carlos Mendoza, and are continuing on Thursday with Craig Counsell. There are believed to be one or maybe two other finalists, if we want to use that vague word (the Mets would push back on it).
Oakland manager Mark Kotsay has been in the mix, sources say, but it is unclear to what extent. The New York Post also linked former San Diego skipper Andy Green to the job.
it seems like they've toed a balance between it being obviously counsell's job and not talking to anyone in any way threatening to counsell being a clear top target (publicly at least).
On paper (which means next to nothing in November) the top of this draft is not as intriguing as last year. Wetherholt seeing time at SS should help his draft stock quite a bit. I'm intrigued by Seaver King. Caglianone with the Ohtani comps seems ridiculous (and unfair)
The Mets are down to a few in-person manager interviews and are on track to make a hire within a week, league sources say.
After first-round telephone interviews, the Mets began their in-person interviews on Wednesday with Carlos Mendoza, and are continuing on Thursday with Craig Counsell. There are believed to be one or maybe two other finalists, if we want to use that vague word (the Mets would push back on it).
Oakland manager Mark Kotsay has been in the mix, sources say, but it is unclear to what extent. The New York Post also linked former San Diego skipper Andy Green to the job.
it seems like they've toed a balance between it being obviously counsell's job and not talking to anyone in any way threatening to counsell being a clear top target (publicly at least).
Also, the conspiracy theorist in me... it looks like a real search aka the league can't claim the Mets/Stearns tampered before they could.
he puts down a pretty heavy marker here despite the non-ideal walk year:
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He’s been on the injured list once in the past six seasons, missing a single start in July 2022 with an elbow strain, although he also missed a spring training start in 2020 with “the flu” a few days before the world ended; before that, his last injury of any sort was a UCL sprain in 2017 that was treated with a PRP injection. I think he’s a hidden ace, someone who’ll take off for whoever signs him — and shame on the Phillies if they don’t — even though he might end up more in the $25 million a year range than the $30 million-plus he’s likely to be worth.
i really have to say it would be so nice to do to philly what they did to us with wheeler - assuming law ends up right about nola.
Also, the conspiracy theorist in me... it looks like a real search aka the league can't claim the Mets/Stearns tampered before they could.
i think that would be a near impossible case to prove given that stearns and counsell were technically still part of the same org through sept 1. so there's only like a month in between and stearns wasnt even employed by the mets that entire time.
if there's a tampering case it would more likely be with stearns some time over the 2+ year pursuit than counsell in the brief period after stearns hire but before mil got eliminated. milwaukee has now twice given mets permission to talk to their guys a little early so it would seem that they aren't scorned but i suppose that could change.
The draft lottery is just for the 1st round, right?
he New York Mets will get a huge windfall this year from lower debt payments thanks to owner Steve Cohen’s 2021 refinancing of the bonds used to finance the construction of Citi Field.
The ballpark, which opened in 2009, was financed with 40-year and 37-year PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) bonds at interest rates between 4.3% and 6.5%. Back then, the Mets were owned by the Wilpon and Katz families, who operated the New York City-owned ballpark (formerly known as Queens Ballpark LLC) through a lease agreement with the New York City Industrial Development Agency (NYCIDA) until 2049. Link - ( New Window )
projecting Lugo at roughly 3 for 39, and I'd do that. Unclear if he'd be willing to return. I think he's very similar to Quintana in value.
And I gave that number before Law's piece!
12:19 PM · Oct 31, 2023
"Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
It would. I think that’s very low. Got 15 before he proved he could start. I suspect he gets something like 3 for 39."
i think he's more likely to get 2 years than 3, but for mets i think a 3x30m makes a ton of sense to flatten out his lux tax hits and knowing he can shift to BP effectively. id be very happy with him as a 3rd SP who can compete for a rotation slot with peterson/megill/vasil and shift to BP if necessary.
i would imagine lugo doesnt care too much where he pitches other than how it impacts how much $ he gets since middle relievers dont get $30m.
if he's their 2nd SP signing that seems a little risky but he's a perfect 3rd SP/potential high leverage RP swing piece.
he New York Mets will get a huge windfall this year from lower debt payments thanks to owner Steve Cohen’s 2021 refinancing of the bonds used to finance the construction of Citi Field.
The ballpark, which opened in 2009, was financed with 40-year and 37-year PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) bonds at interest rates between 4.3% and 6.5%. Back then, the Mets were owned by the Wilpon and Katz families, who operated the New York City-owned ballpark (formerly known as Queens Ballpark LLC) through a lease agreement with the New York City Industrial Development Agency (NYCIDA) until 2049. Link - ( New Window )
if memory serves this was done about 12 months before seidler and a bunch of others were screaming to "name 1 thing cohen has actually done better than the wilpons"?
really stood out. I'm not really buying it. He was really bad most of the year and needs his command to be near perfect to be effective. He's at an age where his velocity declines (and it isn't great to begin with) so there's not a lot of room for error there. Really risky guy to sign.
@mets
have released nearly 30 players. Cole Gordon, Kolby Kubichek, Manuel Guance, Nick Meyer, Elliot Johnstone, Pedro Mercedes, Ramon Henriquez, Luis Castillo, Fernando Villalobos, Christopher Vasquez, Yordis Perera, Eric Santana, Gregory Leal, Jonaiker Palacios, Sammy Tavarez, Luis A Rodriguez (the righty), Joe Joe Rodriguez, Luis Montas, Dylan Hall, Chase Estep, Carlos Dominguez. Cesar Berbesi, Dyron Campos, Matt Minnick
More releases to announce-
17th round 2022 Connor Brandon, UDFA Mathieu Voros, IFA Adrian Hernandez, 2021 7th rounder Kevin Kendall.
@mets announce the release of an additional 5 players
RHP Elian Nunez, RHP Yeudi Lora, LHP Arlison Rodriguez, C Jose Marcano and RHP (and 70 grade name) Frelianderson Seijas
really stood out. I'm not really buying it. He was really bad most of the year and needs his command to be near perfect to be effective. He's at an age where his velocity declines (and it isn't great to begin with) so there's not a lot of room for error there. Really risky guy to sign.
im not sure im buying it or selling it. im almost definitely going for yamamoto, montgomery, ohtani first - but so will 1/3 of baseball.
a lot fewer than 1/3 of baseball will go hard for nola, snell, etc. and that number will be again less whoever gets the top guys w/o QOs. so there may be some deals to be had.
let's say they get 1 of yamamoto/montgomery (which seems like a pretty safe bet).
if nola or snell is sitting out there at a reasonable price on a 4 or 5 year deal not unlike how bassitt lingered on the market last year, i think they'd have to consider it.
a Yamamoto/Senga/Quintana + Nola or Snell top 4 would be very strong. All except Quintana 30 or younger.
for a combined $50m/year x 4-7 years they can do that. and then they've got some real runway to build up/phase in the arms in the system.
tends to overhype these Cuban players but apparently this kid has defected Link - ( New Window )
does he count against any different pool or is he just a free agent?
Once he's declared a FA he will count against whatever IFA year's pool he opts to sign. The Mets don't have much money left this year (no clue how much this kid is expected to sign for, admittedly had never even heard of him). He could wait until the next signing period.
"He’s probably a $25 million per year guy, even at 24 or so starts a year, but I’d be wary of going more than two years for a guy with two Tommy Johns and several other arm injuries on his medicals."
Clevinger's best FIP since 2019 was 4.15 over 8 starts in 2020 and he's been worth 3.3 fWAR over that time. He's also known as an absolute dickhead. Who is giving Mike Clevinger 25 million per? Goodness.
Robert Murray
@ByRobertMurray
Terms of Max Muncy’s extension with the Los Angeles Dodgers: two years, $24 million with $10 million club option for 2026.
That's a steal for LAD. Muncy has posted 5.3 fWAR since OD 2022 hitting 57 homers with a 113 wRC+
Pretty telling when so many players brought in within the last 12 months are already being dumped in one off-season. Ortega, Nittoli, Mendick, Araúz, Brigham, Locastro, Reyes, Almonte, Hernández, Battenfield + Curtiss who was signed April 2022 by Billy Eppler #Mets
has them at 33/40 slots and id say at least 4 more pitchers are easily disposable if necessary.
considering they probably don't need to sign more than 5 active roster free agents, and probably only 1 or 2 by the gm meetings, they should have plenty of slots for whomever they want to keep. METS MAKE MORE 40-MAN ROSTER MOVES - ( New Window )
With the WS over should we start a new thread for the off-season?
Thanks for doing that btw GF. I think you should start another one again on January 1st as well (Off-Season Thread Part 2 until Spring Training) so people can find them besides the usual die-hards.
With the WS over should we start a new thread for the off-season?
Thanks for doing that btw GF. I think you should start another one again on January 1st as well (Off-Season Thread Part 2 until Spring Training) so people can find them besides the usual die-hards.
Sounds good! I'll try to remember in January haha.
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
Wow, Danngets sports headaches. you weren’t in the mood?? I hear ya though, bud.
I’ve occasionally mentioned it in the last. I used to say a baseball junkie needs to experience spring training, buts that’s changed over the years. But for a an uber fan like you, I can suggest enough catching some backfield minor,league games if you ever head down there.
But even better, catch an FCL game. For a guy like you, you’d be a kid in a candy store!!!!
He’s slow??
No, homerun trot
He jogged out a HR?
No, walked. All of them.
How many?
(Cracks up laughing) ALOT!!!!!!
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7th overall pick in 2nd round of the 2023 draft had a pool number of Rockies: $1,868,400, the 7th pick in the 5th round had a pool number of Rangers: $437,900
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
+ 5th round pick and 5th round money, 8th pick in the 5th round was 433,500. So it's far, far closer to 2 million in lost money, 1.93,500 based on 2023's numbers and the pools go up, not down annually.
They’d win the lottery
Draft Griffin under slot first.
Then kill it with some mid round over slots!!!
But in Metsland… things don’t go that way 😞
the odds of getting that amount of production from prospect $ that's roughly equal to sproat, larez, thornton is exponentially lower, and at least 5 years deferred in the future.
and keep in mind that just like sproat/larez, if there are players they like better than them in those classes they will still get them because the penalty is smaller than their highest value choice (first round pick, biggest IFA signing).
100% go for yamamoto/montgomery first but if they go elsewhere don't turn the phone off.
right on time here's law's top 50, he has Shohei 1, Nola 3, Yamamoto 4, Gray 5, Montgomery 6, Snell 7, Rodriguez 8, Imanaga 11, Hendricks 12, Lugo 17. So seems like a pretty big drop off after those guys in the top 10 making 1 of them a must.
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In comment 16271433 DanMetroMan said:
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7th overall pick in 2nd round of the 2023 draft had a pool number of Rockies: $1,868,400, the 7th pick in the 5th round had a pool number of Rangers: $437,900
So maybe I'm confused with what the 1.5 number your citing is?
1.5m was what sproat got last year (which was exactly slot). this years 2nd will be higher so the slot value will be slightly higher but sproat was generally ranked ahead of where they picked him so i think he's a good proxy to the type of talent they would be giving up.
+ 5th round pick and 5th round money, 8th pick in the 5th round was 433,500. So it's far, far closer to 2 million in lost money, 1.93,500 based on 2023's numbers and the pools go up, not down annually.
the pools go up along with the slot values (which i said) but the value of the prospect is still the same. they lose slot value of their 2nd and 5th highest pick - which their 2nd round and 5th round picks last year approximate closest. unlike last year they arent going to get comp picks for losing players via FA so the picks they are risking should be their 2nd rd pick and 5th rd picks at slot value.
And I gave that number before Law's piece!
12:19 PM · Oct 31, 2023
"Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
It would. I think that’s very low. Got 15 before he proved he could start. I suspect he gets something like 3 for 39."
After first-round telephone interviews, the Mets began their in-person interviews on Wednesday with Carlos Mendoza, and are continuing on Thursday with Craig Counsell. There are believed to be one or maybe two other finalists, if we want to use that vague word (the Mets would push back on it).
Oakland manager Mark Kotsay has been in the mix, sources say, but it is unclear to what extent. The New York Post also linked former San Diego skipper Andy Green to the job.
it seems like they've toed a balance between it being obviously counsell's job and not talking to anyone in any way threatening to counsell being a clear top target (publicly at least).
On paper (which means next to nothing in November) the top of this draft is not as intriguing as last year. Wetherholt seeing time at SS should help his draft stock quite a bit. I'm intrigued by Seaver King. Caglianone with the Ohtani comps seems ridiculous (and unfair)
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The Mets are down to a few in-person manager interviews and are on track to make a hire within a week, league sources say.
After first-round telephone interviews, the Mets began their in-person interviews on Wednesday with Carlos Mendoza, and are continuing on Thursday with Craig Counsell. There are believed to be one or maybe two other finalists, if we want to use that vague word (the Mets would push back on it).
Oakland manager Mark Kotsay has been in the mix, sources say, but it is unclear to what extent. The New York Post also linked former San Diego skipper Andy Green to the job.
it seems like they've toed a balance between it being obviously counsell's job and not talking to anyone in any way threatening to counsell being a clear top target (publicly at least).
Also, the conspiracy theorist in me... it looks like a real search aka the league can't claim the Mets/Stearns tampered before they could.
i really have to say it would be so nice to do to philly what they did to us with wheeler - assuming law ends up right about nola.
Also, the conspiracy theorist in me... it looks like a real search aka the league can't claim the Mets/Stearns tampered before they could.
i think that would be a near impossible case to prove given that stearns and counsell were technically still part of the same org through sept 1. so there's only like a month in between and stearns wasnt even employed by the mets that entire time.
if there's a tampering case it would more likely be with stearns some time over the 2+ year pursuit than counsell in the brief period after stearns hire but before mil got eliminated. milwaukee has now twice given mets permission to talk to their guys a little early so it would seem that they aren't scorned but i suppose that could change.
Correct
The ballpark, which opened in 2009, was financed with 40-year and 37-year PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) bonds at interest rates between 4.3% and 6.5%. Back then, the Mets were owned by the Wilpon and Katz families, who operated the New York City-owned ballpark (formerly known as Queens Ballpark LLC) through a lease agreement with the New York City Industrial Development Agency (NYCIDA) until 2049.
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projecting Lugo at roughly 3 for 39, and I'd do that. Unclear if he'd be willing to return. I think he's very similar to Quintana in value.
And I gave that number before Law's piece!
12:19 PM · Oct 31, 2023
"Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
It would. I think that’s very low. Got 15 before he proved he could start. I suspect he gets something like 3 for 39."
i think he's more likely to get 2 years than 3, but for mets i think a 3x30m makes a ton of sense to flatten out his lux tax hits and knowing he can shift to BP effectively. id be very happy with him as a 3rd SP who can compete for a rotation slot with peterson/megill/vasil and shift to BP if necessary.
i would imagine lugo doesnt care too much where he pitches other than how it impacts how much $ he gets since middle relievers dont get $30m.
if he's their 2nd SP signing that seems a little risky but he's a perfect 3rd SP/potential high leverage RP swing piece.
The ballpark, which opened in 2009, was financed with 40-year and 37-year PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) bonds at interest rates between 4.3% and 6.5%. Back then, the Mets were owned by the Wilpon and Katz families, who operated the New York City-owned ballpark (formerly known as Queens Ballpark LLC) through a lease agreement with the New York City Industrial Development Agency (NYCIDA) until 2049. Link - ( New Window )
if memory serves this was done about 12 months before seidler and a bunch of others were screaming to "name 1 thing cohen has actually done better than the wilpons"?
have released nearly 30 players. Cole Gordon, Kolby Kubichek, Manuel Guance, Nick Meyer, Elliot Johnstone, Pedro Mercedes, Ramon Henriquez, Luis Castillo, Fernando Villalobos, Christopher Vasquez, Yordis Perera, Eric Santana, Gregory Leal, Jonaiker Palacios, Sammy Tavarez, Luis A Rodriguez (the righty), Joe Joe Rodriguez, Luis Montas, Dylan Hall, Chase Estep, Carlos Dominguez. Cesar Berbesi, Dyron Campos, Matt Minnick
More releases to announce-
17th round 2022 Connor Brandon, UDFA Mathieu Voros, IFA Adrian Hernandez, 2021 7th rounder Kevin Kendall.
RHP Elian Nunez, RHP Yeudi Lora, LHP Arlison Rodriguez, C Jose Marcano and RHP (and 70 grade name) Frelianderson Seijas
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im not sure im buying it or selling it. im almost definitely going for yamamoto, montgomery, ohtani first - but so will 1/3 of baseball.
a lot fewer than 1/3 of baseball will go hard for nola, snell, etc. and that number will be again less whoever gets the top guys w/o QOs. so there may be some deals to be had.
let's say they get 1 of yamamoto/montgomery (which seems like a pretty safe bet).
if nola or snell is sitting out there at a reasonable price on a 4 or 5 year deal not unlike how bassitt lingered on the market last year, i think they'd have to consider it.
a Yamamoto/Senga/Quintana + Nola or Snell top 4 would be very strong. All except Quintana 30 or younger.
for a combined $50m/year x 4-7 years they can do that. and then they've got some real runway to build up/phase in the arms in the system.
does he count against any different pool or is he just a free agent?
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tends to overhype these Cuban players but apparently this kid has defected Link - ( New Window )
does he count against any different pool or is he just a free agent?
Once he's declared a FA he will count against whatever IFA year's pool he opts to sign. The Mets don't have much money left this year (no clue how much this kid is expected to sign for, admittedly had never even heard of him). He could wait until the next signing period.
got it so no more yoan moncadas but if over 25 all bets off?
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simplest terms, if you're under 25 you count against IFA pools.
got it so no more yoan moncadas but if over 25 all bets off?
Exactly. Then you're a full-on FA, same as with the over 25 Japanese players (who are eligible for FA)
"He’s probably a $25 million per year guy, even at 24 or so starts a year, but I’d be wary of going more than two years for a guy with two Tommy Johns and several other arm injuries on his medicals."
Clevinger's best FIP since 2019 was 4.15 over 8 starts in 2020 and he's been worth 3.3 fWAR over that time. He's also known as an absolute dickhead. Who is giving Mike Clevinger 25 million per? Goodness.
@FabianArdaya
Dodgers are finalizing a two-year contract extension with Max Muncy, source tells The Athletic.
Muncy had a $14 million club option for 2024 that was pending.
@ByRobertMurray
was on it.
@ByRobertMurray
Terms of Max Muncy’s extension with the Los Angeles Dodgers: two years, $24 million with $10 million club option for 2026.
That's a steal for LAD. Muncy has posted 5.3 fWAR since OD 2022 hitting 57 homers with a 113 wRC+
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
The Mets have placed more players on outright waivers to clear 40-man space, per source:
-RHP Peyton Battenfield
-RHP John Curtiss
-RHP Elieser Hernández
-RHP Bryce Montes de Oca
-RHP Denyi Reyes
-OF Tim Locastro
If unclaimed, Montes de Oca and Battenfield could be retained.
considering they probably don't need to sign more than 5 active roster free agents, and probably only 1 or 2 by the gm meetings, they should have plenty of slots for whomever they want to keep.
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Thanks for doing that btw GF. I think you should start another one again on January 1st as well (Off-Season Thread Part 2 until Spring Training) so people can find them besides the usual die-hards.
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With the WS over should we start a new thread for the off-season?
Thanks for doing that btw GF. I think you should start another one again on January 1st as well (Off-Season Thread Part 2 until Spring Training) so people can find them besides the usual die-hards.
Sounds good! I'll try to remember in January haha.
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