won't be added and Lavender likely won't be either. I completely understand why people want to see "new" faces but teams generally do not add prospects to the 40 man (in a losing season) before they have to. There is no turning back and even bad rosters do run up against roster limitations.
-Today we have Tyler Stuart (coming off his worst career start. He's very possibly wearing down) and Jordany Ventura coming off of back to back gems (14 innings 3 hits 19 k's). Ventura has allowed more than 3 runs 3 times all season (20 games pitched)
-McDaniel names Jett Williams the Mets #1 prospect, Drew Gilbert #2
11. New York Mets
2023 preseason rank: 11
2022 midseason rank: 14
2022 preseason rank: 20
2021 midseason rank: 22
Top 100 prospects: Luisangel Acuña, SS/2B (No. 40); Drew Gilbert, OF (No. 56); Jett Williams, SS/OF (No. 83); Ronny Mauricio, 2B/OF/SS (No. 92); Kevin Parada, C (No. 95)
New York famously added to its prospect core at this year’s Deadline, bringing in two Top 100 prospects in Acuña and Gilbert alongside other notable talents like Ryan Clifford, Marco Vargas and Justin Jarvis. Those trades certainly helped build out the Mets’ top-end talent and depth, but the organization still isn’t quite there in either department to break into the Top 10. The good news: many of the organization’s top names could see Queens soon with nine of the Top 17 already at Double-A or Triple-A
jarvis is rule 5 eligible and luchessi has made a few rehab starts
so i think those are probably the 2 most interesting arms who get chances down the stretch (though jarvis hasn't pitched particularly well so that's not a given, vasil also wasn't pitching particularly well up until recently so hopefully that similarly flips quickly).
RE: jarvis is rule 5 eligible and luchessi has made a few rehab starts
so i think those are probably the 2 most interesting arms who get chances down the stretch (though jarvis hasn't pitched particularly well so that's not a given, vasil also wasn't pitching particularly well up until recently so hopefully that similarly flips quickly).
Jarvis and Crow are absolute locks to be added to the 40 man. Jarvis likely won't be called up unless he turns it around in Syracuse. No point in having a guy come up to have his head bashed in.
so i think those are probably the 2 most interesting arms who get chances down the stretch (though jarvis hasn't pitched particularly well so that's not a given, vasil also wasn't pitching particularly well up until recently so hopefully that similarly flips quickly).
Jarvis and Crow are absolute locks to be added to the 40 man. Jarvis likely won't be called up unless he turns it around in Syracuse. No point in having a guy come up to have his head bashed in.
right but my point is anyone thinks vasil is ready now, he too was getting his head bashed in up until the last couple starts. in june when he got promoted to AAA he had a 10+ era. he made 4 starts in july that were better (4.6 era) but he only got out of the 5th inning once. the last 2 starts were probably his best 2 of the year so it's not impossible 2 weeks from now jarvis puts himself in a similar position.
don't think many people think Vasil is MLB ready either though (and Vasil is a much more highly regarded prospect). Jarvis is a fringe top 30 prospect in the Mets system. So far 18 AAA innings 40 baserunners. That doesn't mean he can't turn it around, but it's becoming short on time to do so in time to be in line for an MLB callup. Syracuse's season ends on 9/24.
Kellum Clark on base again. OPS now sits at .924, OBP is over .500. I'd be pretty shocked if he's not with @stluciemets as soon as the FCL season ends. He's too advanced for the level
but im hopeful one day soon cohen wont have the smartest baseball quotes of anyone in the org. another strong article from sammon:
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“The reality is, the game is changing,” Cohen said. “It’s getting faster. It’s getting younger. You can see the teams that are fun to watch that are young. And with the shift being gone, the defense matters more, speed matters more on the bases. The pitcher is a little bit more gassed from just a 15-second clock. So the game has changed. You gotta change with it.”
A.J. Ewing is making his first career start in LF. It's the third position he's played over his first 6 games, none coming at his natural position (SS)
but im hopeful one day soon cohen wont have the smartest baseball quotes of anyone in the org. another strong article from sammon:
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“The reality is, the game is changing,” Cohen said. “It’s getting faster. It’s getting younger. You can see the teams that are fun to watch that are young. And with the shift being gone, the defense matters more, speed matters more on the bases. The pitcher is a little bit more gassed from just a 15-second clock. So the game has changed. You gotta change with it.”
speed and defense, plus their pitchers inability to combat other team's speed, were achilles heels of this years roster. the new rules 100% exacerbated their age problem. Were the Mets a poor fit for baseball’s new rules? Expect a new approach in 2024 - ( New Window )
I was just watching games around the league and it is obvious Nimmo needs to move off leadoff.
Not a real knock on him, but the stolen base is more of a weapon now with the pitch clock and the limit on number of throws to 1st. Nimmo does not steal bases. Alonso has 1 fewer and McNeil the same amount.
He could be a 2 hitter, he has 20 HR power and walks/takes enough pitches to let the leadoff hitter steal, but I like what i see so far with Jett - more of a leadoff hitter IMO if he carries that patience, OBP and SB's to the next levels.
Banks remains in the game, allows a walk and is replaced by Louis who allows the runner to score. Banks final line 1 inning 0 hits 1 er 2 walks 1 K #Mets
but im hopeful one day soon cohen wont have the smartest baseball quotes of anyone in the org. another strong article from sammon:
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“The reality is, the game is changing,” Cohen said. “It’s getting faster. It’s getting younger. You can see the teams that are fun to watch that are young. And with the shift being gone, the defense matters more, speed matters more on the bases. The pitcher is a little bit more gassed from just a 15-second clock. So the game has changed. You gotta change with it.”
speed and defense, plus their pitchers inability to combat other team's speed, were achilles heels of this years roster. the new rules 100% exacerbated their age problem. Were the Mets a poor fit for baseball’s new rules? Expect a new approach in 2024 - ( New Window )
I was just watching games around the league and it is obvious Nimmo needs to move off leadoff.
Not a real knock on him, but the stolen base is more of a weapon now with the pitch clock and the limit on number of throws to 1st. Nimmo does not steal bases. Alonso has 1 fewer and McNeil the same amount.
He could be a 2 hitter, he has 20 HR power and walks/takes enough pitches to let the leadoff hitter steal, but I like what i see so far with Jett - more of a leadoff hitter IMO if he carries that patience, OBP and SB's to the next levels.
acuna will hopefully get himself in the leadoff consideration in the next year or 2. explosive athletes are hard to find in free agency unless they have big flaws. i know he's struggled post-trade but he's the prospect who has the most unique skillset in terms of what was already in the organization.
had no clue about this but apparently when Asian HS players bypass going to the NPB/KBO their HS's lose 5 years of MLB funding (which is what's going to happen to the HS of the kid the Dodgers just signed Hyun-Seok Jang) and they even had an actual rule banning such players from returning for 2 years if they left their MLB organizations (this rule was lifted officially but apparently is still mostly enforced).
Agreed on Nimmo being an ideal #2 hitter. The fact that he also hits from the left side, is a tough player to turn double plays on, is a contact hitter, uses the whole field, takes pitches (as noted), gets on base without the benefit of a hit, has enough power, and finally is a good baserunner, to me he's basically the perfect #2 hitter.
6 innings 2 hits 0 er 3 walks 10 k's. Yup. 57 k's over his last 34.2 innings. Still don't know what to make of this guy. Far too hittable at times, the epitome of a "when he's on, he's on" P
Parada (rehab and DHing) 0-3, Lara 2-2. SB, having a rough August coming into today but very nice under the radar season. Could be a very nice bench piece, Mosquera 0-3, Lorusso 0-2 (3-32 to begin his career), Morabito 0-2
I don't think anybody is clamoring to see 34 year old ex-Met pick Adam Kolarek so badly, but post trade he's only allowed 1 hit over 5.1 innings (6 appearances). Carved out a decent career for an 11th round pick who was released by @mets before making an MLB appearance #Mets
Diaz pitched off a mound yesterday for the first time since the WBC injury.
Really the event that triggered this debacle of a season.
I know people on here are generally ridiculous about injuries, but I'd like to see Diaz take the mound before the end of the season for a few reasons....
1. so he doesn't go into 2024 having missed a full season. Maybe semantics but it means something
2. serve as a cleanse to this shit show of a season, kind of a bookend to "lift the curse"
3. even while I acknowledge losing is better for the franchise at this point, I also think ending the season on a positive note could be a good thing. I believe in the power of persuasion and spirituality and good vibes, etc.
not going to say it's critical he pitch and if he doesn't I won't be outraged, but if he's cleared medically I'd let him go out there.
He’s cleared (and they are using some sort of new numbers based system to assist with how quickly he has/will move through his rehab) he will pitch. My guess is assuming no setbacks he makes 2-3 appearances at the very end of the year and if he feels anything resembling soreness or his stuff in rehab doesn’t look how it normally does he will not.
Williams now has the highest bb% in all of minor league baseball (400 or more PA)
Do you think they wait until next year to move him to Bing? He hasn’t been in Brooklyn long, but already it looks like he’s got nothing left to prove at that level.
You’re never gonna live this one down Dan, you were on him from the jump. Good call.
very solid last 3 months. the 9, 9, 7 column is walks and the 7, 11, 16 column is the k's, so he's added power this month at the expense of some k's (and 2bs).
Williams now has the highest bb% in all of minor league baseball (400 or more PA)
Do you think they wait until next year to move him to Bing? He hasn’t been in Brooklyn long, but already it looks like he’s got nothing left to prove at that level.
You’re never gonna live this one down Dan, you were on him from the jump. Good call.
100% a guess but I think he finishes the season in BK. If he finishes strong he'll still play the entire 2024 season as a 20 year old. Stating the obvious but that puts him in line to be a big leaguer as soon as 2025, or if he's outstanding next season, even 2024. He still has some work to do (he's looking less and less like a SS, but that's okay. He's impressed in CF and his issues at SS, okay arm, okay range will be non-issues at 2b, if that's really where this lands.). Completely guessing but I'd say Acuna ends up in CF (more of a quick twitch athlete/can cover more ground) and Jett Williams at 2b.
Related, and maybe just a coincidence but after YEARS of reluctance giving players looks at multiple positions, Jett Williams has played SS/CF, Morabito and Rowdey Jordan have played OF/2b and the Baro/Ewing/Houck/Vargas group have seen time at multiple spots. This seems like a shift in philosophy (and to me a good one).
@BaseballAmerica ranks @mets system #14 in baseball. Pipeline and FG both ranked them #11
14. New York Mets
Top 100 Prospects: SS Luisangel Acuña (63), OF Drew Gilbert (85), OF Ryan Clifford (96), SS Jett Williams (97)
The Skinny: The Mets exchanged Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer—and at least $70 million—for three of the Astros’ and Rangers’ top prospects who now rank as the top three future talents for New York. The Mets added a bevy of other prospects as part of six deadline deals and well-rounded prep shortstop Colin Houck in the 2023 draft. The organization has seen encouraging growth from pitching prospects such as Mike Vasil, Blade Tidwell and Christian Scott.
RE: carlos cortes must really be sniffing his chance
very solid last 3 months. the 9, 9, 7 column is walks and the 7, 11, 16 column is the k's, so he's added power this month at the expense of some k's (and 2bs).
0 reason to not call him up, he's rule 5 eligible. Why lose him (or risk losing him) without giving him a look? If he comes up and stinks then what was lost exactly? It's not like "rushing" up a core piece.
has struggled post trade (no, I'm not concerned). He, Williams and Gilbert sure seem to fall into the "new model" of player that teams are looking for. Speed, some pop, athletic, rangy. Clifford less so, but sluggers will always have value.
I don't personally believe the main reason Mauricio remains in AAA is the PPI program, *but* if you do (or it is) then we are 2 days away from 8/19 (where it comes a non-issue) assuming he doesn't receive 130 ab's the rest of the way #Mets
5 POTENTIAL METS SEPTEMBER CALL UPS IN 2023 - Posted by Patrick Glynn | Aug 15, 2023 | MMOnline.com
-McDaniel names Jett Williams the Mets #1 prospect, Drew Gilbert #2
11. New York Mets
2023 preseason rank: 11
2022 midseason rank: 14
2022 preseason rank: 20
2021 midseason rank: 22
Top 100 prospects: Luisangel Acuña, SS/2B (No. 40); Drew Gilbert, OF (No. 56); Jett Williams, SS/OF (No. 83); Ronny Mauricio, 2B/OF/SS (No. 92); Kevin Parada, C (No. 95)
New York famously added to its prospect core at this year’s Deadline, bringing in two Top 100 prospects in Acuña and Gilbert alongside other notable talents like Ryan Clifford, Marco Vargas and Justin Jarvis. Those trades certainly helped build out the Mets’ top-end talent and depth, but the organization still isn’t quite there in either department to break into the Top 10. The good news: many of the organization’s top names could see Queens soon with nine of the Top 17 already at Double-A or Triple-A
Jarvis and Crow are absolute locks to be added to the 40 man. Jarvis likely won't be called up unless he turns it around in Syracuse. No point in having a guy come up to have his head bashed in.
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so i think those are probably the 2 most interesting arms who get chances down the stretch (though jarvis hasn't pitched particularly well so that's not a given, vasil also wasn't pitching particularly well up until recently so hopefully that similarly flips quickly).
Jarvis and Crow are absolute locks to be added to the 40 man. Jarvis likely won't be called up unless he turns it around in Syracuse. No point in having a guy come up to have his head bashed in.
right but my point is anyone thinks vasil is ready now, he too was getting his head bashed in up until the last couple starts. in june when he got promoted to AAA he had a 10+ era. he made 4 starts in july that were better (4.6 era) but he only got out of the 5th inning once. the last 2 starts were probably his best 2 of the year so it's not impossible 2 weeks from now jarvis puts himself in a similar position.
speed and defense, plus their pitchers inability to combat other team's speed, were achilles heels of this years roster. the new rules 100% exacerbated their age problem.
Were the Mets a poor fit for baseball’s new rules? Expect a new approach in 2024 - ( New Window )
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“The reality is, the game is changing,” Cohen said. “It’s getting faster. It’s getting younger. You can see the teams that are fun to watch that are young. And with the shift being gone, the defense matters more, speed matters more on the bases. The pitcher is a little bit more gassed from just a 15-second clock. So the game has changed. You gotta change with it.”
speed and defense, plus their pitchers inability to combat other team's speed, were achilles heels of this years roster. the new rules 100% exacerbated their age problem. Were the Mets a poor fit for baseball’s new rules? Expect a new approach in 2024 - ( New Window )
I was just watching games around the league and it is obvious Nimmo needs to move off leadoff.
Not a real knock on him, but the stolen base is more of a weapon now with the pitch clock and the limit on number of throws to 1st. Nimmo does not steal bases. Alonso has 1 fewer and McNeil the same amount.
He could be a 2 hitter, he has 20 HR power and walks/takes enough pitches to let the leadoff hitter steal, but I like what i see so far with Jett - more of a leadoff hitter IMO if he carries that patience, OBP and SB's to the next levels.
K, BB, DP
down 4-0 in the 6th have something cooking. Baro single, Houck walk (second of the game, 7th in 6 pro games) to open the inning
Not expected to pitch this season. 106 inning pitched this year as is.
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but im hopeful one day soon cohen wont have the smartest baseball quotes of anyone in the org. another strong article from sammon:
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“The reality is, the game is changing,” Cohen said. “It’s getting faster. It’s getting younger. You can see the teams that are fun to watch that are young. And with the shift being gone, the defense matters more, speed matters more on the bases. The pitcher is a little bit more gassed from just a 15-second clock. So the game has changed. You gotta change with it.”
speed and defense, plus their pitchers inability to combat other team's speed, were achilles heels of this years roster. the new rules 100% exacerbated their age problem. Were the Mets a poor fit for baseball’s new rules? Expect a new approach in 2024 - ( New Window )
I was just watching games around the league and it is obvious Nimmo needs to move off leadoff.
Not a real knock on him, but the stolen base is more of a weapon now with the pitch clock and the limit on number of throws to 1st. Nimmo does not steal bases. Alonso has 1 fewer and McNeil the same amount.
He could be a 2 hitter, he has 20 HR power and walks/takes enough pitches to let the leadoff hitter steal, but I like what i see so far with Jett - more of a leadoff hitter IMO if he carries that patience, OBP and SB's to the next levels.
acuna will hopefully get himself in the leadoff consideration in the next year or 2. explosive athletes are hard to find in free agency unless they have big flaws. i know he's struggled post-trade but he's the prospect who has the most unique skillset in terms of what was already in the organization.
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the plans are for Sproat?
Not expected to pitch this season. 106 inning pitched this year as is.
thanks.
Diaz pitched off a mound yesterday for the first time since the WBC injury.
Really the event that triggered this debacle of a season.
I know people on here are generally ridiculous about injuries, but I'd like to see Diaz take the mound before the end of the season for a few reasons....
1. so he doesn't go into 2024 having missed a full season. Maybe semantics but it means something
2. serve as a cleanse to this shit show of a season, kind of a bookend to "lift the curse"
3. even while I acknowledge losing is better for the franchise at this point, I also think ending the season on a positive note could be a good thing. I believe in the power of persuasion and spirituality and good vibes, etc.
not going to say it's critical he pitch and if he doesn't I won't be outraged, but if he's cleared medically I'd let him go out there.
AVG/OPS or E.R.A (W-L) (S)
Luisangel Acuna SS/2B (AA Binghamton) - 0/4, R, BB, .157/.435
Drew Gilbert OF (AA Binghamton) - 3/5, 2B(1), 2 R, K, .326/.848
Jett Williams SS/CF (High A Brooklyn) - 1/3, BB, .283/.894
Ronny Mauricio IF/OF (AAA Syracuse) - 0/4, BB, 2 K, SB(20), .287/.826
Kevin Parada C (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; Sprained Ankle
Ryan Clifford OF/1B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/4, 2 K, .258/.863
Colin Houck SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/1, 2 BB, .176/.593
Marco Vargas SS/2B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/3, 2 K, .266/.827
Mike Vasil RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
Blade Tidwell RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Alex Ramirez OF (High A Brooklyn) - 0/4, 2 K, .236/.669
Christian Scott RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Jacob Reimer 3B/1B (High A Brooklyn) - 0/4, 2 K, .122/.528
Brandon Sproat RHP (Not Assigned) - N/A
Justin Jarvis RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
Dominic Hamel RHP (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Tyler Stuart RHP (AA Binghamton) - 3.0 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 0 HR, 4.34, L(2-2)
Jesus Baez SS (Rookie FCL Mets) - DNP
Calvin Ziegler RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured; Torn Quad; Expected Back 2024
Ronald Hernandez C/1B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/1, 2 BB, .295/.930
Luis R Rodriguez LHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured
Jeremiah Jackson INF/OF (AA Binghamton) - 1/5, R, 2 RBI, 3 K, .154/.579
Nolan McLean RHP/OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - DNP
Diego Mosquera SS (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/5, 3B(1), 3 K, .174/.570
Raimon Gomez RHP (High A Brooklyn) - Injured; TJS; Expected Back 2024
Joel Diaz RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - Injured; TJS; Expected Back 2024
Matt Rudick OF (AA Binghamton) - Injured
Nick Morabito OF/2B (Low A St. Lucie) - 1/4, R, 2 K, .283/.740
Coleman Crow RHP (AA Binghamton) - Injured; TJS; Expected Back 2024
Kade Morris RHP (Not Assigned) - N/A
Honorable Mention
Brett Baty 3B (AAA Syracuse) - 1/4, K, .356/1.263
Luke Ritter 2B/3B/1B (AAA Syracuse) - 1/4, 3 K, .246/.770
Nate Lavender RHP (AAA Syracuse) - DNP
Carlos Cortes OF (AAA Syracuse) - 2/4, HR(12), 2 R, RBI, K, .261/.820
Brandon McIlwain OF (AAA Syracuse) - 0/2, R, RBI, BB, 2 SB(5), .282/.913
Jose Peroza 3B (AA Binghamton) - DNP
Rowdey Jordan 2B/OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/5, 2B(20), R, RBI, .237/.766
JT Schwartz 1B/OF (AA Binghamton) - 2/4, R, 2 RBI, BB, 2 K, .294/.793
William Lugo 3B/SS (High A Brooklyn) - 0/3, .216/.662
Stanley Consuegra (High A Brooklyn) - 0/4, 3 K, .228/.734
Jordany Ventura RHP (High A Brooklyn) - 4.0 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 5 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 3.56, L(3-1)
Layonel Ovalles RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
Douglas Orellana RHP (Low A St. Lucie) - DNP
Simon Juan OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - DNP
Willy Fanas OF (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/3, 2 K, .244/.722
A.J. Ewing SS/2B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 0/2, K, .308/.911
Boston Baro SS/2B (Rookie FCL Mets) - 1/3, R, K, .375/1.024
Daiverson Gutierrez C (Rookie DSL Mets Blue) - 1/4, RBI, K, .189/.572
Jeremy Rodriguez SS (Rookie DSL Mets Orange) - DNP
Jeffry Rosa OF (Rookie DSL Mets Orange) - DNP
Cristopher Larez SS (Rookie DSL Mets Orange) - Injured
Do you think they wait until next year to move him to Bing? He hasn’t been in Brooklyn long, but already it looks like he’s got nothing left to prove at that level.
You’re never gonna live this one down Dan, you were on him from the jump. Good call.
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Williams now has the highest bb% in all of minor league baseball (400 or more PA)
Do you think they wait until next year to move him to Bing? He hasn’t been in Brooklyn long, but already it looks like he’s got nothing left to prove at that level.
You’re never gonna live this one down Dan, you were on him from the jump. Good call.
100% a guess but I think he finishes the season in BK. If he finishes strong he'll still play the entire 2024 season as a 20 year old. Stating the obvious but that puts him in line to be a big leaguer as soon as 2025, or if he's outstanding next season, even 2024. He still has some work to do (he's looking less and less like a SS, but that's okay. He's impressed in CF and his issues at SS, okay arm, okay range will be non-issues at 2b, if that's really where this lands.). Completely guessing but I'd say Acuna ends up in CF (more of a quick twitch athlete/can cover more ground) and Jett Williams at 2b.
Related, and maybe just a coincidence but after YEARS of reluctance giving players looks at multiple positions, Jett Williams has played SS/CF, Morabito and Rowdey Jordan have played OF/2b and the Baro/Ewing/Houck/Vargas group have seen time at multiple spots. This seems like a shift in philosophy (and to me a good one).
14. New York Mets
Top 100 Prospects: SS Luisangel Acuña (63), OF Drew Gilbert (85), OF Ryan Clifford (96), SS Jett Williams (97)
The Skinny: The Mets exchanged Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer—and at least $70 million—for three of the Astros’ and Rangers’ top prospects who now rank as the top three future talents for New York. The Mets added a bevy of other prospects as part of six deadline deals and well-rounded prep shortstop Colin Houck in the 2023 draft. The organization has seen encouraging growth from pitching prospects such as Mike Vasil, Blade Tidwell and Christian Scott.
0 reason to not call him up, he's rule 5 eligible. Why lose him (or risk losing him) without giving him a look? If he comes up and stinks then what was lost exactly? It's not like "rushing" up a core piece.