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Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:27 pm
Really curious to hear what Daboll will say at the podium. I hope he pulls a John McKay.

I put on the MSG Postgame show.
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I thought this was cancelled  
gtt350 : 9/10/2023 11:29 pm : link
,
It’s one game  
ajr2456 : 9/10/2023 11:29 pm : link
But not what you want to see from an offense led by a $40 million man.

Regroup with an inferior opponent the next two weeks and see what happens.
Pathetic performance by all involved…  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/10/2023 11:30 pm : link
Onto Arizona!
I know it is only one game  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:31 pm : link
but my expectations for this year have certainly adjusted downward.
RE: It’s one game  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16199498 ajr2456 said:
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But not what you want to see from an offense led by a $40 million man.

Regroup with an inferior opponent the next two weeks and see what happens.


SF isn’t inferior. They’re elite. And they will likely pound us at their place off a short week. Win next week or kiss any sort of meaningful season good bye.
Gano is injured?  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:31 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants
Glaring holes in the OL  
mac attack : 9/10/2023 11:31 pm : link
And I don't see ways to fix it.
RE: Gano is injured?  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16199510 Anakim said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants


Thomas is the one I’m concerned about.
RE: It’s one game  
SomeFan : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16199498 ajr2456 said:
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But not what you want to see from an offense led by a $40 million man.

Regroup with an inferior opponent the next two weeks and see what happens.
I think the inferior opponent may be us.
Looks like Eric was too disgusted to start this thread  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
...or passed out drunk. If that's the case, I don't blame him.

This is like 1995 and 2014, except empirically worse.
That was the worst game I've seen (watching football 50 years)  
TrueBlue'02 : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
Absolutely putrid.

Our offensive line looked worse than a bad college team. So bad, it is mind boggling.
Well,  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
That was a kick in the nuts
RE: RE: It’s one game  
ajr2456 : 9/10/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16199508 The_Boss said:
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In comment 16199498 ajr2456 said:


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But not what you want to see from an offense led by a $40 million man.

Regroup with an inferior opponent the next two weeks and see what happens.



SF isn’t inferior. They’re elite. And they will likely pound us at their place off a short week. Win next week or kiss any sort of meaningful season good bye.


Forgot San Fran was before Seattle
Blindsided  
knowledgetimmons : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
Worst performance and coaching I’ve seen in my lifetime.

Bono season, now it’s Bozo Season
Literally no one did a good job, including the coaches.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
And that’s the correct usage of the word “literally”.
I’ve never seen a team collapse like that ever  
Ben in Tampa : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
Everything went wrong. Ever single bounce went the wrong way. Just a terrible game from almost start to finish.

They need to do some soul searching this week and try to get right against the Card. Good grief that sucked.
What’s the argument for not benching Glowinski?  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
I understand it for Evan Neal. But Glowinski sucked last season. And then tonight. He has a fork stuck in his back.
Giants were holding back  
averagejoe : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
for Arizona next week and want Dallas to be overconfident .


That's all I got .
Evan Neal  
Amc825 : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
Does not pass the eyeball test. He is Top heavy, slow feet and unbalanced.

Banks will be in the conversation for a pro bowl by year 3.
If Disney movies have taught us anything  
cjac : 9/10/2023 11:33 pm : link
It’s that we will win the Super Bowl this year
RE: What’s the argument for not benching Glowinski?  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:34 pm : link
In comment 16199529 cosmicj said:
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I understand it for Evan Neal. But Glowinski sucked last season. And then tonight. He has a fork stuck in his back.


None
Absolutely none
Give Mckethen a shot (or whatever his name is)
RE: Gano is injured?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:34 pm : link
In comment 16199510 Anakim said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants


Took a shot on the blocked FG.
I lost all faith in both Daboll and Schoen after this game  
BestFeature : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
Two frauds.
Have to win next week  
moespree : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
Or 0-3 is likely.

The team that took the field tonight would be obliterated in San Francisco on a short week. Maybe even worse than tonight if that's even possible.
Spent last year defending Evan Neal.  
bceagle05 : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
Not gonna bother this year - he’s a bust until proven otherwise.
Madelyn Burke is cute tonight  
blueberry : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
only flower against this mess they served up tonight
RE: Evan Neal  
gersh : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
In comment 16199533 Amc825 said:
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Does not pass the eyeball test. He is Top heavy, slow feet and unbalanced.

Banks will be in the conversation for a pro bowl by year 3.


Yeah
I think the rookie CBs looked good
Hawkins PI penalty was just inexperience - he was with him
How many more years in a row is our STs gonna suck for?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/10/2023 11:35 pm : link
This is ridiculous.
Evan Neal can't stay at tackle  
tomdif21 : 9/10/2023 11:36 pm : link
We might as well move him inside now. We could bring back Solder and get the same level of play at tackle.
With only one OL who can block  
TrueBlue'02 : 9/10/2023 11:36 pm : link
what do we do?
RE: What’s the argument for not benching Glowinski?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:36 pm : link
In comment 16199529 cosmicj said:
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I understand it for Evan Neal. But Glowinski sucked last season. And then tonight. He has a fork stuck in his back.


It might be possible that Ezeudu and Shane Lemieux are worse.

Glowinski and Neal sucking were the least surprising part of this Shit fest.
RE: Literally no one did a good job, including the coaches.  
cosmicj : 9/10/2023 11:37 pm : link
In comment 16199526 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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And that’s the correct usage of the word “literally”.


I think Wink’s decision to start Hawkins can really be questioned. Adoree is a quality NFL starter. Why move him to the nickel role? I had been assuming that Hawkins’ performance in practice had been so convincing, it justified such an adventurous decision. Well…
Giants have 1 game they will be favored possibly  
Knickstape : 9/10/2023 11:37 pm : link
That’s next week against cardinals.

Looking at this schedule and the way we played. This team is staring down the barrel of 3-4 wins
RE: With only one OL who can block  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:37 pm : link
In comment 16199553 TrueBlue'02 said:
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what do we do?


Even he fucked them with a penalty.
When Daboll  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 11:38 pm : link
Takes the burden off the OL by saying it was not just them. That is pissing in my face and telling me it's raining.

The OL was disgusting .

Then he says they all gave great effort....seriously?
As I thought so far  
giantstock : 9/10/2023 11:38 pm : link
A 7 or 8 win team.

Completely outmatched in all phases vs a much superior team.

They need another year of draft picks and free agents. I believe they have a lort fa money available for next year?

Hopefuly next several weeks things will change but I don't believe so. Hope it does.
RE: When Daboll  
The_Boss : 9/10/2023 11:39 pm : link
In comment 16199564 HewlettGiant said:
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Takes the burden off the OL by saying it was not just them. That is pissing in my face and telling me it's raining.

The OL was disgusting .

Then he says they all gave great effort....seriously?


Spent the summer watching Aaron Boone post game pressers and taking notes?
Did the Center we cut that Dallas signed  
GiantTuff1 : 9/10/2023 11:39 pm : link
spill all of our protections schemes and secrets or something? Because good god that was bad.
This team showed nothing.  
sb2003 : 9/10/2023 11:39 pm : link
Zero.

They looked like children playing against men. I can't remember a game where a team looked so outplayed and outcoached in every single facet that's there's not a single positive to speak about. Nothing. A wire-to-wire complete and utter ass kicking.

If ever there was a time to be embarrassed as a team it's fucking now.

How is it possible to play this poorly without trying to suck?

This might be the worst performance I've ever seen from a football team.
RE: Gano is injured?  
bluefin : 9/10/2023 11:39 pm : link
In comment 16199510 Anakim said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants

He got slammed during the blocked FG, and he’s not a kid
RE: Did the Center we cut that Dallas signed  
Anakim : 9/10/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16199570 GiantTuff1 said:
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spill all of our protections schemes and secrets or something? Because good god that was bad.


And Dennis Houston told us NUTHIN'
Well that was fun to go to.  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/10/2023 11:40 pm : link
Anything that could go wrong early did and then the offensive line could not block anyone. We look like the worst team in the league. I doubt we are but it gets late early in this league.
RE: Have to win next week  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/10/2023 11:40 pm : link
In comment 16199543 moespree said:
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Or 0-3 is likely.

The team that took the field tonight would be obliterated in San Francisco on a short week. Maybe even worse than tonight if that's even possible.
100%
RE: This team showed nothing.  
HewlettGiant : 9/10/2023 11:41 pm : link
In comment 16199571 sb2003 said:
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Zero.

They looked like children playing against men. I can't remember a game where a team looked so outplayed and outcoached in every single facet that's there's not a single positive to speak about. Nothing. A wire-to-wire complete and utter ass kicking.

If ever there was a time to be embarrassed as a team it's fucking now.

How is it possible to play this poorly without trying to suck?

This might be the worst performance I've ever seen from a football team.


Given how many wretched performances they have had, that says a lot.

It will be interesting to see how  
larryflower37 : 9/10/2023 11:42 pm : link
The organization handles the media and pressure that a blow out like this will bring.
Hopefully they can rally from this and it grounds them that they have a ton of work left to do and they turn this around.
That was the worst shutout loss in the history of the series  
Greg from LI : 9/10/2023 11:42 pm : link
Seriously - even the ‘70s Giants didn’t get their asses kicked by the Cowboys this badly
This  
AcidTest : 9/10/2023 11:43 pm : link
may be the worst loss I have ever seen by the Giants, and I remember when the Giants lost 35-0 on opening night at home to the Cowboys.

Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.

Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.

We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.

We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
RE: Have to win next week  
Johnny5 : 9/10/2023 11:43 pm : link
In comment 16199543 moespree said:
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Or 0-3 is likely.

The team that took the field tonight would be obliterated in San Francisco on a short week. Maybe even worse than tonight if that's even possible.

SF is going to absolutely destroy this bag of shit called the NY Giants. Luckily I'm camping that weekend starting Thursday night so at least I will miss that embarrassment.
RE: RE: Literally no one did a good job, including the coaches.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/10/2023 11:43 pm : link
In comment 16199558 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16199526 shockeyisthebest8056 said:


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And that’s the correct usage of the word “literally”.



I think Wink’s decision to start Hawkins can really be questioned. Adoree is a quality NFL starter. Why move him to the nickel role? I had been assuming that Hawkins’ performance in practice had been so convincing, it justified such an adventurous decision. Well…


My biggest issue with Wink was his insistence on keeping nickel personnel on the field even in running situations (1st & 10, for example). The Cowboys would have 2 tight ends on the field and just run the ball down the Giants throats.
About as bad as it gets  
moespree : 9/10/2023 11:43 pm : link
No positives at all. Truly.

I hope last year wasn't simply an aberration or outlier year and now the franchise is back in the ditch.

But if they don't win next week against a team trying to tank, they will likely go 0-3. With Seattle and a road game in Miami after that.
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