may be the worst loss I have ever seen by the Giants, and I remember when the Giants lost 35-0 on opening night at home to the Cowboys.
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
LMAO with the mention of Peart. Thanks for the good joke.
RE: I lost all faith in both Daboll and Schoen after this game
to say it, but there was a reason, all we heard about all training camp about the position swaps that were going on with the guards. We just don't have starting caliber players in those spots and I think the coaches know it. Add on to that, Neal didn't do a thing to improve from what I have seen.....I am about to call him a bust....he's bad.
Did we not know it was going to be this wet for the game? Sorry I am in Indiana, but there was ZERO talk about it up until hours before kickoff. Seemed like the giants were not ready for the conditions and I think that had a LOT to do with how things went as well.
I am in no way in panic mode, we will see what happens in the coming weeks, but we still have leaks in the dam and we are not there yet with Dallas and Philly......
RE: Giants have 1 game they will be favored possibly
may be the worst loss I have ever seen by the Giants, and I remember when the Giants lost 35-0 on opening night at home to the Cowboys.
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
And Jones should get no pass. NOBODY should. Not one freaking player.
Even worse, it is showing a directv error with their receiver # and card #, and it's been like that for about 10 minutes and the clearly don't notice because they didn't interrupt the broken feed. That's pretty embarrassing.
Arizona played with some pretty high intensity today
They looked like children playing against men. I can't remember a game where a team looked so outplayed and outcoached in every single facet that's there's not a single positive to speak about. Nothing. A wire-to-wire complete and utter ass kicking.
If ever there was a time to be embarrassed as a team it's fucking now.
How is it possible to play this poorly without trying to suck?
This might be the worst performance I've ever seen from a football team.
Makes a great point that I witnessed also. After Jones threw that pick he was hit OB could have been a call, but no one on our sideline went over to protect Jones.
may be the worst loss I have ever seen by the Giants, and I remember when the Giants lost 35-0 on opening night at home to the Cowboys.
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
And Jones should get no pass. NOBODY should. Not one freaking player.
I was skeptical that the two best lineman available both happened to be from NC; it felt like maybe too much consideration had been given to a second-tier football program of a basketball school.
Neither have developed into being part of the solution to the O-line problem, and they occupy roster slots that should be filled by better players.
Was disappointed but to be honest if you really look at this team Dallas and Philly are way better built then the Giants and will be a bad match up for them for the foresable future. The Giants can still have a decent season and still make the playoffs but it's going to be a battle and it needs to start next week with PHX.
Makes a great point that I witnessed also. After Jones threw that pick he was hit OB could have been a call, but no one on our sideline went over to protect Jones.
The Cowboys just kicked more rubber pellets in his face. This wasn’t a game. It was an utter disgrace, and the entire Cowboys organization was laughing
Makes a great point that I witnessed also. After Jones threw that pick he was hit OB could have been a call, but no one on our sideline went over to protect Jones.
The defense quit early and if the offense was trying, it was hard to tell.
Makes a great point that I witnessed also. After Jones threw that pick he was hit OB could have been a call, but no one on our sideline went over to protect Jones.
We have a bunch of nice guys on this team. Who are our “Dogs?”
Parsons on Dallas for the next 8 years is an absolute nightmare. The fact that we could have had him is even worse.
Exactly.. The bottom line is people don't seem to understand when you miss out on a player like Parsons, you will be hurting for years. The reason the Cowboys are so good and the Giants are so bad is, they draft better! They have quality NFL GM's, HC's, coaching staff, Scouts, etc. Look at their DC, he has been quality for so long! The Giants Organization just can't figure it out. They are taking way to many gambles. Personally, I don't go after a young raw GM, in the state of the Giants Org, you go for the most experienced and qualified GM out there.
He can kiss another offer like that goodbye from us for next year.
Why? It was a good defensive play that was timed perfectly.
To me, that's just one of those plays where you tip your hat to the defense.
That's kind of like saying Jones was practically in the dirt but the defender just made a great play and got under it. These guys are paid to make plays and secure the ball.
I was skeptical that the two best lineman available both happened to be from NC; it felt like maybe too much consideration had been given to a second-tier football program of a basketball school.
Neither have developed into being part of the solution to the O-line problem, and they occupy roster slots that should be filled by better players.
McKethan missed his entire rookie year with an ACL and Ezeudu most of his rookie year and also had surgery. They are both still rookies.
We practiced with wet balls this week (insert joke here). Unfortunately the weather didn’t catch our coaches off-guard, we were just completely outclassed.
Parsons on Dallas for the next 8 years is an absolute nightmare. The fact that we could have had him is even worse.
Exactly.. The bottom line is people don't seem to understand when you miss out on a player like Parsons, you will be hurting for years. The reason the Cowboys are so good and the Giants are so bad is, they draft better! They have quality NFL GM's, HC's, coaching staff, Scouts, etc. Look at their DC, he has been quality for so long! The Giants Organization just can't figure it out. They are taking way too many gambles. Personally, I don't go after a young raw GM, in the state of the Giants Org, you go for the most experienced and qualified GM out there.
As evidenced by the many playoff games and Super Bowls Dallas has won in the last 25 years.
There definitely was a miscalculation by coaches and management as ti where the players were mentally and physically to play this game against the Cowboys.
Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
He caught it, turned, didn't see the defender, got crushed, and coughed up the ball.
Was it a good defensive play or not?
If Barkley is the best RB in the league and wants to be paid like it, he has to hold onto that one. He literally had it. If you want a HUGE contract, you have to finish that play. He sucked ass all night, too.
RE: RE: RE: RE: That Barkley INT was embarrassing.
Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
He caught it, turned, didn't see the defender, got crushed, and coughed up the ball.
Was it a good defensive play or not?
It was both.
HE caught the ball/ secured the ball.
Once he secures the ball - he is a pro- he should never lose it. If he does, it's his fault too.
You have to remember that it's not just the Defnese that are pro players. Offeisnve player's have to act like pros and not turn the ball over - as an example.
Of course it wasn't. It was just a perfect play by Diggs. Barkley never had a chance because Diggs came from his blind side...
Yep, just a really good play by Diggs. I don't even think it was counted as a catch by Barkley or they would have counted it as a fumble rather than int
Hire a new OL coach (Mike Munchak, please) and pray he's a miracle worker.
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants
He took a pretty big hit on the blocked FG.
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Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants
Took a shot on the blocked FG.
Yeah, but he stayed in there. I guess there was no other option, but I guess that's cause of optimism?
Who might that be?
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
LMAO with the mention of Peart. Thanks for the good joke.
Wow! Stereotypical fan are we?
Did we not know it was going to be this wet for the game? Sorry I am in Indiana, but there was ZERO talk about it up until hours before kickoff. Seemed like the giants were not ready for the conditions and I think that had a LOT to do with how things went as well.
I am in no way in panic mode, we will see what happens in the coming weeks, but we still have leaks in the dam and we are not there yet with Dallas and Philly......
Looking at this schedule and the way we played. This team is staring down the barrel of 3-4 wins
Why should they be favored?
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
And Jones should get no pass. NOBODY should. Not one freaking player.
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@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants
He took a pretty big hit on the blocked FG.
Would explain the bad miss
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Two frauds.
Wow! Stereotypical fan are we?
So far the dumbest comment of the night.
Even worse, it is showing a directv error with their receiver # and card #, and it's been like that for about 10 minutes and the clearly don't notice because they didn't interrupt the broken feed. That's pretty embarrassing.
And it's their home opener next week. This will be a very difficult game and there's no reason to have much confidence in it right now.
They looked like children playing against men. I can't remember a game where a team looked so outplayed and outcoached in every single facet that's there's not a single positive to speak about. Nothing. A wire-to-wire complete and utter ass kicking.
If ever there was a time to be embarrassed as a team it's fucking now.
How is it possible to play this poorly without trying to suck?
This might be the worst performance I've ever seen from a football team.
Agree with everything here
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may be the worst loss I have ever seen by the Giants, and I remember when the Giants lost 35-0 on opening night at home to the Cowboys.
Major changes need to be made to the OL for next week. Neal and Glowinski must be benched. Maybe Bredeson as well. We have options with Ezeudu, Peart, and McKethan. The current OL will get Jones killed and render all those weapons we added in the offseason meaningless.
Jones made mistakes, but I'll give him a pass since he was running for his life on every pass play.
We also need to see a lot more from KT. He was invisible tonight.
We can't pass block and can't generate any pass rush. And if that doesn't change, tonight will be repeated frequently this year.
And Jones should get no pass. NOBODY should. Not one freaking player.
Nobody making $40 million should ever get a pass.
Neither have developed into being part of the solution to the O-line problem, and they occupy roster slots that should be filled by better players.
The Cowboys just kicked more rubber pellets in his face. This wasn’t a game. It was an utter disgrace, and the entire Cowboys organization was laughing
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Graham Gano going for postgame imaging #Giants
He took a pretty big hit on the blocked FG.
Would explain the bad miss
He gave a big hit! Love the hard nosed attitude but someone has to tell him thats someone else's job.
Mock drafts? If they missed on 2 top 10 picks……yikes.
Should we still pay Dave on the back or no?
The defense quit early and if the offense was trying, it was hard to tell.
We have a bunch of nice guys on this team. Who are our “Dogs?”
Why? It was a good defensive play that was timed perfectly.
To me, that's just one of those plays where you tip your hat to the defense.
Exactly.. The bottom line is people don't seem to understand when you miss out on a player like Parsons, you will be hurting for years. The reason the Cowboys are so good and the Giants are so bad is, they draft better! They have quality NFL GM's, HC's, coaching staff, Scouts, etc. Look at their DC, he has been quality for so long! The Giants Organization just can't figure it out. They are taking way to many gambles. Personally, I don't go after a young raw GM, in the state of the Giants Org, you go for the most experienced and qualified GM out there.
Not good. Shows the "culture" may be fun but it isn't leading to a nasty NFL football team.
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He can kiss another offer like that goodbye from us for next year.
Why? It was a good defensive play that was timed perfectly.
To me, that's just one of those plays where you tip your hat to the defense.
That's kind of like saying Jones was practically in the dirt but the defender just made a great play and got under it. These guys are paid to make plays and secure the ball.
Neither have developed into being part of the solution to the O-line problem, and they occupy roster slots that should be filled by better players.
McKethan missed his entire rookie year with an ACL and Ezeudu most of his rookie year and also had surgery. They are both still rookies.
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He can kiss another offer like that goodbye from us for next year.
Why? It was a good defensive play that was timed perfectly.
To me, that's just one of those plays where you tip your hat to the defense.
Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
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Parsons on Dallas for the next 8 years is an absolute nightmare. The fact that we could have had him is even worse.
Exactly.. The bottom line is people don't seem to understand when you miss out on a player like Parsons, you will be hurting for years. The reason the Cowboys are so good and the Giants are so bad is, they draft better! They have quality NFL GM's, HC's, coaching staff, Scouts, etc. Look at their DC, he has been quality for so long! The Giants Organization just can't figure it out. They are taking way too many gambles. Personally, I don't go after a young raw GM, in the state of the Giants Org, you go for the most experienced and qualified GM out there.
As evidenced by the many playoff games and Super Bowls Dallas has won in the last 25 years.
Dave Gettleman’s gift to us all that will keep on giving for a long time
Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
He caught it, turned, didn't see the defender, got crushed, and coughed up the ball.
Was it a good defensive play or not?
Of course it wasn't. It was just a perfect play by Diggs. Barkley never had a chance because Diggs came from his blind side...
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Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
He caught it, turned, didn't see the defender, got crushed, and coughed up the ball.
Was it a good defensive play or not?
If Barkley is the best RB in the league and wants to be paid like it, he has to hold onto that one. He literally had it. If you want a HUGE contract, you have to finish that play. He sucked ass all night, too.
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Because it was an easy catch. If he's such a good receiver like we always hear, that's an easy catch for him.
He caught it, turned, didn't see the defender, got crushed, and coughed up the ball.
Was it a good defensive play or not?
It was both.
HE caught the ball/ secured the ball.
Once he secures the ball - he is a pro- he should never lose it. If he does, it's his fault too.
You have to remember that it's not just the Defnese that are pro players. Offeisnve player's have to act like pros and not turn the ball over - as an example.
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Was not on Jones nor Barkley.
Of course it wasn't. It was just a perfect play by Diggs. Barkley never had a chance because Diggs came from his blind side...
Yep, just a really good play by Diggs. I don't even think it was counted as a catch by Barkley or they would have counted it as a fumble rather than int
I mean, seriously.
We will be haunted by the 2021 draft for a long time I fear.