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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 3:46 pm
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This Forum is awesome  
Florida Giants Fan : 9/17/2023 5:30 pm : link
I love this forum. It is so great to know that there are so many people out there who are having a brain aneurysm just like I am, lol. #Giantsfansunite. On a different note the Rams 49ers game is phenomenal. Very exciting.
Barkley  
mittenedman : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
is Reggie Bush 2
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
But hey, I am sure we had a great week of practice.
Giants offense  
bc4life : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
0 points, 89 total yards, 2 sacks, & 1 interception

Cards on pace to come close to 5oo yards total offense.



Too bizarre to even get mad
They won't win a game this year..  
TheEvilLurker : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
Trying the reverse jinx.. but I think it's too late.
RE: This is as bad as I’ve seen  
DonnieD89 : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16209007 Beezer said:
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since I was a kid.

We are going back to the mid-1970s.

THAT kind of bad.


Yep…
Daniel Jones  
cjac : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
First one in the building every morning
I'm blown away  
sb2003 : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
at how this team absolutely sucks from top to bottom.

Coming off of last year and the hype for this season It's just fucking stunning. In a game and a half not a single point scored while giving up 60.

How is this even possible to be this shitty? I don't get it.
So who do we  
kcgiants : 9/17/2023 5:31 pm : link
pick with the overall 1st pick of 2024 draft?
Id honestly bench Daniel Jones.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
It clearly isn't all his fault, but he's seeing ghosts. He left a clean pocket to scramble and missed a receiver WIDE OPEN down the sideline. He underthrew a WIDE OPEN Slayton. He just got sacked on a 3 man rush because he showed zero feel for the pocket. He's shook. Taylor sucks, but they have to do something.

Fuck Saquon for making a business decision there.

The defense is absolutely lifeless with barely anything resembling a pass rush. Thibs and Owereke are so easily blocked by tight ends that it’s embarrassing.

Just a GUTLESS first half by a bunch of losers.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
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Ben McAdoo part 2?

Prove me wrong.

(he was 11-5 in his first year as HC btw)
This is the worst I've ever seen them play  
moespree : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
It is worse than Joe Judge games.

It feels like they're playing at half speed with zero intensity. They're getting pushed all over the field and don't seem to care that they are being humiliated. No pride at all it seems.

And the coaching feels like they do nothing all week.
great week of practice???  
bc4life : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
you have to wonder if they practiced at all.
RE: Hot seat getting warmer and warmer  
bigbluescot : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16209010 JT039 said:
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For Schoen and Daboll


They’ve fundamentally miscalculated the talent on the team on the back of last year. I imagine they went into that year ready to clear Jones and Barkley out and didn’t that’s the fundamental mistake.

I give them some latitude on the Neal pick, as it seemed a no brainer and some of their other picks have been decent enough but they miscalculated on the QB and paid the RB too much even on a one year rental. This should have been the rebuilding year instead we went pretty far in with an overrated roster.
RE: RE: Anyone not thinking about draft position  
Knickstape : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16209028 Dang Man said:
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In comment 16208966 Knickstape said:


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Is just in denial. This team is fucking dreadful.

Just need to hope schoen isn’t a fucking idiot and would pull the trigger on Caleb Williams if given the opportunity


Not in denial, but what gets you excited about the draft with their lack of talent evaluation?



I think Caleb Williams is as can’t miss as a prospect can be.

However I have 0 faith schoen would actually take him since he just paid jones and would look like an idiot
DeVito  
thrunthrublue : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
Looked much better than either of the two qb’s on the roster. Jones is as dumb as a post. What an embarrassing mess.
RE: RE: Anyone not thinking about draft position  
DefenseWins : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16209028 Dang Man said:
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In comment 16208966 Knickstape said:


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Is just in denial. This team is fucking dreadful.

Just need to hope schoen isn’t a fucking idiot and would pull the trigger on Caleb Williams if given the opportunity


Not in denial, but what gets you excited about the draft with their lack of talent evaluation?


+1
I used to laugh at people who would say Gettleman sucks but then wanted us to tank to get a better pick... for Gettleman
RE: So who do we  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16209045 kcgiants said:
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pick with the overall 1st pick of 2024 draft?
who is that can’t miss QB? That is what they should do.
RE: 60 - 0 start the season  
markky : 9/17/2023 5:32 pm : link
In comment 16209003 SGMen said:
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Worst NFL start ever?


actually yes. it's a record.
RE: RUN!!! Daniel Jones!!!  
map7711 : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16209014 prdave73 said:
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What the HELL!?>


Got to understand. They have a 3 man rush. That means the have 9 guys in coverage. It’s gonna take time to get open. But this OL can’t freaking block the Don Bosco DL.
Will someone throw a chair  
yalebowl : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
In the locker room at half time?
It’s comical  
beatrixkiddo : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
It’s like coaches come here to one up each other over the next in how to totally fuck a team up horribly. Haha
RE: Giants offense  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16209040 bc4life said:
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0 points, 89 total yards, 2 sacks, & 1 interception

Cards on pace to come close to 5oo yards total offense.



Too bizarre to even get mad


That’s where we disagree. I’m plenty fucking mad. The problem is I’m not sure that a single one of these players are.
RE: ...  
HomerJones45 : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16209048 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
·
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Ben McAdoo part 2?

Prove me wrong.

(he was 11-5 in his first year as HC btw)
ouch
Strahan  
Giantsbigblue : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
All but just called out Daboll.
First team since 1992  
David B. : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
To not score points in the first 6 quarters.


I love that this team sets new records every week.
Tell me again how awesome Jones is  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
And how nothing is actually his fault
Sy's wrong I think  
bc4life : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
This is worse than McAdoo
I’m Sick of This Team  
Bernie : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
Call me when they get their heads out of their asses.
RE: RE: RE: Anyone not thinking about draft position  
bigbluescot : 9/17/2023 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16209052 Knickstape said:
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In comment 16209028 Dang Man said:


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In comment 16208966 Knickstape said:


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Is just in denial. This team is fucking dreadful.

Just need to hope schoen isn’t a fucking idiot and would pull the trigger on Caleb Williams if given the opportunity


Not in denial, but what gets you excited about the draft with their lack of talent evaluation?




I think Caleb Williams is as can’t miss as a prospect can be.

However I have 0 faith schoen would actually take him since he just paid jones and would look like an idiot


Thankfully they can still get out of Jones. They might have to swallow next year with him as backup but there’s little long term damage to his deal
RE: So who do we  
family progtitioner : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16209045 kcgiants said:
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pick with the overall 1st pick of 2024 draft?


How about yet another lousy ol?
Good for calling out Dabs.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
Shit is embarrassing.
Most of the blame is with  
section125 : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
Wink. Just awful defense.

Our "improved" WRs are awful - just awful. Campbell acn't catch and Waller is almost as bad.
Daboll needs to take a hard look at himself  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
No team in NFL history has been this bad. Its a lot more than the players. Even if the players were really bad we would be more competitive than this
This is worse than Judge year 2.  
mittenedman : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
Judge had that go him loss to DEN then the heartbreaker to WAS on the Dex offsides.

But it was never this bad.

Giants are the first team since 1992 not to score in the first 6 quarters.
That was not on Jones  
bluefin : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
to take a deep shot, you need 3-4 seconds - but the 2/5 UNC line were beaten by a 3-man rush
Giants 21  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link

Arizona 20

Believe it!
Last year was a mirage  
lawguy9801 : 9/17/2023 5:34 pm : link
We have resumed being a complete, utter fucking joke of an embarrassment.

Different players, different coaches - same complete fucking pathetic fucking uncompetitive embarrassing bullshit.

Having serious thoughts about burning all of my Giants gear. Not there yet. But the seed is planted.
RE: Hmmm, not sure what is going on  
k2tampa : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
In comment 16208327 jvm52106 said:
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But something is off. I think that Dallas beat down is still lingering right now.

We need to be very careful here as another drive might be the stake in the heart to this team.


Or they just aren't that good.
Caleb  
bronxboy : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
watch
RE: Most of the blame is with  
Route 9 : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
In comment 16209074 section125 said:
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Wink. Just awful defense.

Our "improved" WRs are awful - just awful. Campbell acn't catch and Waller is almost as bad.


0 points on offense in 6 quarters in the modern day NFL lol
Joe nailed the ‘22 draft too.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
Thibs and Neal…
Is Jones contract  
MyNameIsMyName : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
Still a great deal? Lol
Some  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
thoughts:

Jones isn't processing well. He's definitely not seeing some open receivers. Taking a sack at the end of the half was also bad, and he badly underthrew Slayton.

Barkley has no holes to run, but allowing another pass to bounce of his hands was inexcusable.

There is no pressure by the DL. KT is AWOL. He's being easily blocked by one man. Dobbs had plenty of time to throw.

The run defense is also porous. Ward is being washed out in the run game and we can't set the edge.

Pinnock was killed by Ertz.

Bad coaching by Daboll to waste a TO on that sill challenge on the pass to Moore, and then not calling a TO at about 1:50 was also poor.

This is likely the worst team in the league. Outscored 60-0 in six quarters, and after adding Waller, Campbell, and Hyatt.
The ineptitude  
Costy16 : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
To not be able to score when this league is setup to score points is truly something to behold.
RE: ...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
In comment 16209048 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
·
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Ben McAdoo part 2?

Prove me wrong.

(he was 11-5 in his first year as HC btw)


McAdoo had an excuse. All of the WRs were finished a month into the season. And his team at least tried early on. The Giants showed ip lifeless from the opening snap.
RE: Giants 21  
bigbluescot : 9/17/2023 5:35 pm : link
In comment 16209080 M.S. said:
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Arizona 20

Believe it!


They ain’t suddenly stopping the Dobbs train
RE: Daniel Jones  
section125 : 9/17/2023 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16209043 cjac said:
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First one in the building every morning


They have 6 or 7 drops and you blame Jones?

RE: Daniel Jones  
bradshaw44 : 9/17/2023 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16209043 cjac said:
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First one in the building every morning


Someone has to make the coffee…
RE: Some  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/17/2023 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16209089 AcidTest said:
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thoughts:

Barkley has no holes to run, but allowing another pass to bounce of his hands was inexcusable.



Disagree, Barkley had holes, he just has shitty vision. He missed holes last week too.
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