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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 3:46 pm
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Dobbs  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 6:17 pm : link
had all day to throw. Third and 11 and we give up a first down when we're behind by 14.
if they get a FG its over  
amindan54 : 9/17/2023 6:17 pm : link
you cant let them get a FG
I think it’s safe to say  
JT039 : 9/17/2023 6:17 pm : link
Wink was let go for a reason in Baltimore.

Haven’t forced a punt yet today.
It is surprising to me  
bhill410 : 9/17/2023 6:17 pm : link
How bad this defense is performing.
Defense is bad but notwithstanding 14  
SomeFan : 9/17/2023 6:17 pm : link
points, I’m still not enamored with the offense or STs. Arizona also seems to want it much more than the Giants.
McFadden is the worst football player I've ever seen.  
robbieballs2003 : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
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You aren’t  
mittenedman : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
going to see a less talented offense than AZ. All of these coaches are on the hot seat.
Is it asking too much to get a stop  
DonnieD89 : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
this series?
RE: _____________  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
In comment 16209460 I am Ninja said:
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KT is all talk. He's invisible a LOT. Even last year.


I dont know about the talking, but he sure does get blocked VERY easily by tight ends.
Arizona is no longer the worst team in the NFL.  
blink667 : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
And the D was supposed to be the better side of the ball.
Can’t win  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
With this defense.

Weak and worthless.

Dazed and confused.

Can’t play the run.

Can’t rush the passer.

Can’t defend the pass.

Did I miss anything?
Is Leonard Williams playing ?  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/17/2023 6:18 pm : link
Haven’t heard his name in 2 weeks boss
Are they able to redraft?  
Silver Spoon : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
Missing on 2 top 10 picks is a fireable offense.
Don’t know if  
46and2Blue : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
It’s wink or not but they are missing assignments all over the place out there
RE: Is it asking too much to get a stop  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16209472 DonnieD89 said:
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this series?

Way way too much
RE: Can’t win  
yalebowl : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16209476 M.S. said:
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With this defense.

Weak and worthless.

Dazed and confused.

Can’t play the run.

Can’t rush the passer.

Can’t defend the pass.

Did I miss anything?


No Turnovers!
Very hard to feel good about Thibodeaux  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
Invisible.
RE: You aren’t  
FStubbs : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
In comment 16209471 mittenedman said:
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going to see a less talented offense than AZ. All of these coaches are on the hot seat.


Sure you are, the offense in blue.
Defense  
Toth029 : 9/17/2023 6:19 pm : link
Can't help themselves.
Put Jackson back outside  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 6:20 pm : link
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Okereke,  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 6:20 pm : link
McFadden, Pinnock, Williams, Ward, McKinney, and KT have all been bad. Hard to win if that happens.

Agree with whoever said the Cardinals have little offensive talent. But we have less defensive talent.

I'm just startled that we can't get any pressure despite all the resources that were invested in the defense the last two years.
From Bono  
Wiggy : 9/17/2023 6:20 pm : link
To Bozo

4th quarter  
SGMen : 9/17/2023 6:20 pm : link
Can we get AZ to try a long FG and miss giving us good field position and a short at 28 - 21? Can I dream? I haven't heard much from our defense all game but again I think they have more talent than this shitshow.
And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
giantsFC : 9/17/2023 6:20 pm : link
For up to 5 years.

What has happened to our GIANTS?

I can’t ever imagine a world where this once power run and defense team would be this bad.

Is Simmons even playing??  
FranknWeezer : 9/17/2023 6:21 pm : link
WTF do we have to lose by turning him loose against his former team?
Nice  
Toth029 : 9/17/2023 6:21 pm : link
Ball by Hawkins.
Finally got a stop.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/17/2023 6:21 pm : link

Let's get this score
RE: And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16209490 giantsFC said:
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For up to 5 years.



If you dont know what you’re talking about, then just shut the fuck up.
Arizona punts!!!  
blink667 : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
Embarrassing
These rookie corners have been impressive.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
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RE: Is Simmons even playing??  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16209491 FranknWeezer said:
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WTF do we have to lose by turning him loose against his former team?


yes he has been in there
Use Hyatt!!  
prdave73 : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
Damn.. come on.
RE: RE: RE: how can defense  
bigbluescot : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16209451 beatrixkiddo said:
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In comment 16209443 Boss 63 said:


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be this bad



It’s overly aggressive without any real pressure?



Giants Defeane is just going through the motions other than Dex. Brutal. This entire coaching staff is going to get canned before the year is over.


I like the staff, they did well last year but fuck me they’ve rested on their laurels. Wink is a one trick pony, it’s normally a decent trick but it’s all he’s got. He’s not really got the horses for it. Daboll and Kafka made lemonade out of some pretty shitty lemons last year but they’ve not progressed and seem to have miscalculated the QB and the Oline.


Shoen and has grossly miscalculated the overall talent level. It’d have taken some real balls to have went ahead with a full reset after last year but that’s really want needed to happen.
RE: And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
JT039 : 9/17/2023 6:22 pm : link
In comment 16209490 giantsFC said:
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For up to 5 years.

What has happened to our GIANTS?

I can’t ever imagine a world where this once power run and defense team would be this bad.


We can’t cut Jones after next year with little cap impact
Get the ball in Hyatt’s hands  
Chris684 : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
End around or reverse here
RE: RE: And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
JT039 : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16209500 JT039 said:
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For up to 5 years.

What has happened to our GIANTS?

I can’t ever imagine a world where this once power run and defense team would be this bad.




We can’t cut Jones after next year with little cap impact


Can*
RE: These rookie corners have been impressive.  
g56blue10 : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16209496 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It’s insane that this defense is playing so bad and the rookie corners are the least of our worries
Commanders  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
tie the game at 21. Eighteen point comeback.
RE: And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
Sean : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16209490 giantsFC said:
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For up to 5 years.

What has happened to our GIANTS?

I can’t ever imagine a world where this once power run and defense team would be this bad.

This is not at all true.
Simmons has been  
cosmicj : 9/17/2023 6:23 pm : link
Playing.
TAKE A SHOT TO HYATT  
amindan54 : 9/17/2023 6:24 pm : link
you cant have a 10 play drive here


theres too little time you need a quick one.
We have no one on offense or defense  
yalebowl : 9/17/2023 6:24 pm : link
That scares another team
 
christian : 9/17/2023 6:24 pm : link
Here is Jones's chance to shut everyone up.
Send  
AcidTest : 9/17/2023 6:25 pm : link
Hyatt deep as a decoy to draw a safety and then throw a deep crossing route to Campbell or Slayton.
Id like to see them quicken the pace here  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/17/2023 6:25 pm : link
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since 2009 there have been 486 games where a team  
markky : 9/17/2023 6:25 pm : link
was trailing by 17 or more points at the half. Of these only 31 teams came back to win. that's 6.37%.

They  
Toth029 : 9/17/2023 6:25 pm : link
Are moving now. Hyatt has been in too.
...  
christian : 9/17/2023 6:25 pm : link
Breaking the pocket is the right call for Jones.
RE: And we are stuck w this QB & most roster cap repercussions  
bigbluescot : 9/17/2023 6:26 pm : link
In comment 16209490 giantsFC said:
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For up to 5 years.

What has happened to our GIANTS?

I can’t ever imagine a world where this once power run and defense team would be this bad.


They can get out of most of their decisions after next year. I doubt Daboll and Shoen last that long on this showing but there’s no real long term anchors assuming Thomas and Lawerance work out
Helluva  
Toth029 : 9/17/2023 6:26 pm : link
Throw.

Slayton is a bum.
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