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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:17 pm
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 7:59 pm : link
Pat Leonard
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants
RE: FYI, the 49ers  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16210229 section125 said:
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beat the Rams by 1 td - 30-23....


We will see how that goes. They have the short week too and really won't benefit from any travel by us since we are staying out there. Plus, they had to play hard until the end.

I think we could keep it close, we'll see. Every game is different.
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section125 : 9/17/2023 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16210237 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants


The ice machine will be worn out...
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christian : 9/17/2023 8:01 pm : link
In comment 16210222 dpinzow said:
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Fantastic combination of deep shots and YAC in the passing game.

The Giants seemingly have entered the 21st century on offense.



Better OL protection is the keystone to all of that. The modern offensive playcalling is there but is still useless without a good OL and the OL played well in the 2nd half


Of course, I couldn't agree more.

Although, Jones made a number of nice plays leaving the pocket and buying himself time.
A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 9/17/2023 8:01 pm : link
1) That team in the 2nd half is the team I expected the first 6 quarters.

2) That comeback, even in week 2, salvaged the season...at least for now.

3) Speculation that the 1st half they were trying to hard to protect the young OL. Let it fly in the 2nd half

4) Hyatt needs to be on the field A LOT MORE
Did anyone see Leonard Williams  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 8:02 pm : link

Today?
RE: What the hell did I just watch?  
M.S. : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16209965 Gary from The East End said:
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Did Daboll make a deal with the Devil during halftime or something?

Who let you in on the secret?
Ez, McK, Neal, and JMS  
Joe Beckwith : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
will be tested Thursday night….and that’s a good thing because I expect we go with 3 of those young guys and AT the old man ,when he comes back, the rest of the season.
The 2nd half  
DieHard : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
was a very Bills-esque showing by the offense, (no surprise given Daboll taking playcalling reins). Losing Barkley hurts, but if the rejiggered OL can hold up, we can do some damage.

Glad the defense stepped up near the end, but they're the unit I'm most concerned about right now. A similar performance vs the 49ers/Dolphins/Bills gives us zero margin for error.
Just got back from the bar...  
bw in dc : 9/17/2023 8:03 pm : link
Today was a perfect example why you want a dual threat QB.

Jones was tremendous in the second half.
Offense  
stretch234 : 9/17/2023 8:04 pm : link
2nd half

5 drives
42 plays
350 yards
4 TDs/ 1 FG
RE: Barkley  
joeinpa : 9/17/2023 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16210057 Crazed Dogs said:
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hurt yet again... crazy game ..very much NYG... they are going to hjave to play a lot better to compete next week


Not really, 31-8 is pretty dominating. I think we need to look at this as what it was, two separate halves

Surely you can see the way they played in the second half is good enough to win a lot of games
Get these guys  
Carson53 : 9/17/2023 8:08 pm : link
some Five Hour Energy drinks or something about 5 minutes before they come on the field...they always snooze thru the first quarter of a game, unbelieveable.
Speaking of Barkley  
Carson53 : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.
Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
j_rud : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:10 pm : link
I imagine DJ gets the player of the week, considering the INT is not on him
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.

Definitely, great grab on the final drive
RE: Tough game in SF but  
k2tampa : 9/17/2023 8:11 pm : link
In comment 16210166 EdS56 said:
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winnable. Looks like high ankle for Barkley so
4 games at least. Time to get inventive.


Looked like the ankle went inside rather than rolling to the outside. Those take time.
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:12 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


His catch on the last drive was superb.

I'd like to see him high point that ball that was a tad underthrown in the first half down the far sideline.
RE: RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
rnargi : 9/17/2023 8:12 pm : link
In comment 16210299 ryanmkeane said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


Definitely, great grab on the final drive


I thought a shin down was in...and that sure looked like his shin was in.
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
cosmicj : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


I thought Slayton was terrific. That catch over the middle in the 4th quarter was a big play and a difficult one to make.

Havent seen anyone talk about it but Hodgins’ body control to catch that laser from DJ in the end zone was great. Not an easy catch to make.
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
dpinzow : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


I'd be surprised if we saw him anytime before Week 7
RE: Did anyone see Leonard Williams  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210254 M.S. said:
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Today?


Who?

Joking of course, but haven’t seen much of him. Dex did finally crank it up in the second half
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
GFAN52 : 9/17/2023 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


Yep, it's pretty doubtful he could play on a short week. I just hope it's not a long-term injury or even worse.
 
ryanmkeane : 9/17/2023 8:14 pm : link
The TD to Hodgins is why you pay Jones. Pretty much the only window that existed on that throw.
RE: RE: Speaking of Barkley  
mfsd : 9/17/2023 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16210316 dpinzow said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.



I'd be surprised if we saw him anytime before Week 7


Yup this feels like the dreaded high ankle sprain/4-6 week recovery
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:15 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
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Andrew Thomas on hamstring injury: “I’m feeling good. It’s definitely progressing. It’s tough without going full speed in the game to know but I think it’s progressing”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:15 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/17/2023 8:16 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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Saquon Barkley went for Xrays om his ankle after the game. He was in the locker room, almost despondent, which stuck out amid the jubilation. Did not do am interview. #Giants
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dpinzow : 9/17/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16210330 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants


Time for Eric Gray to show he's the goods.

The other thing this does is it likely puts almost everything on Jones because one of the other RBs breaking out is unlikely. Hoping against hope that Gray is the goods
RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
ajr2456 : 9/17/2023 8:18 pm : link
In comment 16210295 j_rud said:
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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.


Slayton looked more like rookie year Slayton than what we saw the last couple of years
Looking forward to SY’s game review  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 8:20 pm : link
Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.
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RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 8:20 pm : link
In comment 16210338 dpinzow said:
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In comment 16210330 Eric from BBI said:


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Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
Saquon Barkley had an x-ray on his right ankle after the game. He limped around the locker room and it was a bit swollen. Clearly he had some pain and discomfort.

This is definitely a concern for the Giants and Barkley moving forward, especially with a short turnaround this week but also for the long-term prospects of the team. A damper on a dramatic win. #giants



Time for Eric Gray to show he's the goods.

The other thing this does is it likely puts almost everything on Jones because one of the other RBs breaking out is unlikely. Hoping against hope that Gray is the goods


Everything on offense is already on Jones.
RE: RE: Not sure if mentioned but Slayton deserves a tip of the hat  
eli4life : 9/17/2023 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16210314 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16210295 j_rud said:


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Several tough grabs and nearly an incredible catch at the pylon. Hands don't seem to be an issue.



I thought Slayton was terrific. That catch over the middle in the 4th quarter was a big play and a difficult one to make.

Havent seen anyone talk about it but Hodgins’ body control to catch that laser from DJ in the end zone was great. Not an easy catch to make.

I don’t recall that being the problem with him I thought it was the layups he bumbles
RE: Hyatt changes the game  
Brick72 : 9/17/2023 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16210150 ajr2456 said:
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He’s not Odell but it’s a threat we haven’t had since. He’s got speed, good wr instincts, and hands.

He has very good hands and tracks the ball well. So far he's had to slow down to catch the ball. When Jones learns to lead him better some of those will become home run balls. At that point he completely changes the defensive coverage over the top, and Slayton seems to be playing in a higher gear also. If they keep it up and refine it, the middle/underneath become a Waller/Bellinger/Shep/Campbell danger zone for the defense.
RE: RE: Hyatt changes the game  
section125 : 9/17/2023 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16210365 Brick72 said:
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He’s not Odell but it’s a threat we haven’t had since. He’s got speed, good wr instincts, and hands.


He has very good hands and tracks the ball well. So far he's had to slow down to catch the ball. When Jones learns to lead him better some of those will become home run balls. At that point he completely changes the defensive coverage over the top, and Slayton seems to be playing in a higher gear also. If they keep it up and refine it, the middle/underneath become a Waller/Bellinger/Shep/Campbell danger zone for the defense.


Jones doesn't seem to just let it fly. Seems to try to be perfect and not let the WRs just run under it.
RE: Just got back from the bar...  
Spider56 : 9/17/2023 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16210263 bw in dc said:
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Today was a perfect example why you want a dual threat QB.

Jones was tremendous in the second half.


I thought for sure you were going to say ‘today was a perfect example of why we drink’
RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:
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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.


LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!
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Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16210237 Eric from BBI said:
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Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Would characterize Saquon Barkley’s demeanor as down or despondent. Not clear what exactly the X-rays showed, but his face told the story that it’s not good #giants


That's what has me worried :-(
RE: Speaking of Barkley  
Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16210293 Carson53 said:
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seeing how frustrated he was throwing his helmet on the sideline, will be surprised if he plays on a short week.


I'd be happy if we saw him again this season.
just realized........  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:36 pm : link
...remember when we couldn't score 30 in a game?

Now we did it in a half!!!!
general question about SB....  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:37 pm : link
...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.
What a game  
AcesUp : 9/17/2023 8:39 pm : link
It felt like the season was on the line every drive of the second half was relieved when it was over. We experienced the Daniel Jones floor game in the first half and the Daniel Jones ceiling game in the second half.

You can see from the broadcast that they were playing that shallow 2 high and just crashing down on our short passing game. Jones either didn’t take or missed a couple shots in the first half and that Hyatt bomb changed everything. Need more of that regardless of the OL issues. Gotta trust Jones to either buy time or take the sack when things break down. Continue to deprogram him from the Jason Garrett brainwashing, get it through to him that the light is green.
RE: general question about SB....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
In comment 16210436 BillKo said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.


You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.
A win is a win  
US1 Giants : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
but I am not very happy with it. The Cardinals are probably the worst team in the league. The excitement of this win will mask many problems.
Barkley  
WillVAB : 9/17/2023 8:40 pm : link
Thank God the FO didn’t puss out and give him a McAffrey contract. Unfortunate he got hurt, but he gets hurt every year which is why you don’t give him a long term contract.
RE: RE: general question about SB....  
BillKo : 9/17/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16210452 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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...why on the play before his injury did he go down behind the LOS for like a three yard loss.

I thought that really was not a smart play.



You're playing for clock time. They were kicking the FG the whole time, not trying to advance the ball.


Well if that's the point, why did we run hard on the next two plays? LOL

My point, it was a dumb play. You run it for positive yardage and make them use their time out. You don't go backwards.
RE: RE: Looking forward to SY’s game review  
Optimus-NY : 9/17/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16210415 BillKo said:
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In comment 16210355 WillVAB said:


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Where he blows Barkley and gives back handed compliments to Jones so he can stay on brand with his draft grades.



LOL, nearly spit up my beer on this one....!!!


People are about to learn  
OBJ_AllDay : 9/17/2023 8:42 pm : link
That running backs not named saquon Barkley occasionally fumble… I feel bad for him such a shit hand with his injury luck. Never had the chance to show who he was at PSU
RE: A win is a win  
RCPhoenix : 9/17/2023 8:43 pm : link
In comment 16210453 US1 Giants said:
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but I am not very happy with it. The Cardinals are probably the worst team in the league. The excitement of this win will mask many problems.


If you aren’t happy about coming back from the dead I don’t know what you would be happy about.

Also - are the Cards the worst team in the NFL? I’m not so sure.
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