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Rewatching offense in 2nd half

Eric on Li : 9/17/2023 11:07 pm
that was the best i've seen jones navigate the pocket.

i was trying to specifically watch the 4 young OL and they all did a good job generating movement in the run game, mckethan and neal had key blocks on the series with barkleys td run and the run before it to get the ball on the goaline. but in the passing game it seemed like there weren't a lot of simple "block the guy in front of you" protections, they were kicking across formations a lot, and it seemed like jones was eluding at least one guy or sliding away from someone on most plays. in pass pro ezeudu and mckethan specifically looked somewhat "bend but dont break" and my big takeaway was jones navigating a lot of messy pockets well was the difference in that game.

there were also some plays the cardinals defended well that he smartly didn't force. in the rz he had that roll out right that he extended but smartly put out of bounds at the last second. also had the play in the rz where he put the ball in the ground near waller to avoid a sack and a grounding call.

not knocking the OL at all, given the circumstances they did a great job regardless of opponent. just a gutsy team win all around and hopefully something to build on. not sure if they schemed things differently to make life easier for what was basically an all new OL but hopefully this is the start of the OL taking some real steps forward (especially once thomas comes back).
Arizona in game one  
5BowlsSoon : 9/17/2023 11:17 pm : link
Was winning 16-10 in the 4th quarter at Washington. Wash scored 10 to win. That shows me they were very competitive. Same goes today. In other words, it doesn’t appear beating them is a given. ….so far.
RE: Arizona in game one  
Eric on Li : 9/17/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16210872 5BowlsSoon said:
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Was winning 16-10 in the 4th quarter at Washington. Wash scored 10 to win. That shows me they were very competitive. Same goes today. In other words, it doesn’t appear beating them is a given. ….so far.


they played hard and if you look at almost every big play the giants made arizona defenders were really close to making the play themselves. barkley only barely got a step on his td, hodgins td was through a tight window, slayton made some tough catches, jones broke contain on some runs where it looked like they had him, waller made some tough catches, etc.

when we see the numbers tomorrow i suspect they got pressure on jones on a high% of plays even in the 2nd half. so yes it appears they are a bit better than expected (especially dobbs).
RE: Arizona in game one  
Breeze_94 : 9/17/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16210872 5BowlsSoon said:
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Was winning 16-10 in the 4th quarter at Washington. Wash scored 10 to win. That shows me they were very competitive. Same goes today. In other words, it doesn’t appear beating them is a given. ….so far.


Arizona actually has some players on the offensive side of the ball. Connor, Hollywood, Ertz, a decent LT, and Parris Johnson at RT who looks good so far. Plus the young WR Wilson. Dobbs had a career game - thought he looked serviceable.
The hope is they found something in the 2nd half  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2023 11:39 pm : link
becauae they had some guys running free..

Just got to hope they can start as fast as they fknished this game
Mckethan communication...  
bluewave : 9/18/2023 5:41 am : link
Not sure how many stunts Arizona ran but being as young as Mckethan is I was surprised how much less of breakdown we had on the right side. Maybe his communication skills with Neal that much better than Glowinski?
today's baldy breakdown is jones' legs in 2nd half  
Eric on Li : 9/18/2023 10:04 am : link
you can see on a few of these a rusher came in, jones eluded them, climbed pocket, kept eyes downfield, but then took off. this was the story all 2nd half even when he passed the ball and didn't take off with his legs. that half was top tier pocket navigation, which is a skill he didnt always have and continues to get better.
Brian Baldinger @BaldyNFL · 15m . @Daniel_Jones10 runs for 58 yards in 2nd half. 5 of his runs went for a TD or First Down. #BaldysBreakdowns - ( New Window )
Same exact guy  
Thegratefulhead : 9/18/2023 10:09 am : link
We saw in Minnesota last year. That is Jones' game. That is how he has to be used.
RE: Same exact guy  
Eric on Li : 9/18/2023 10:15 am : link
In comment 16211264 Thegratefulhead said:
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We saw in Minnesota last year. That is Jones' game. That is how he has to be used.


i'm waiting to see what his numbers were compared to that game under pressure.

in minnesota he was 4/9 for 87 yards when pressured (34% of snaps). 0 tds/0 ints.

he was sacked 3x in both games but i think in this one he will have been pressured at a higher % and done more damage when pressured.
Jones made the OL look better  
PatersonPlank : 9/18/2023 10:35 am : link
they were better because it wasn't a jailbreak like vs Dallas, but they still weren't great. Jones movement filled in the gaps however
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