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In re-watching parts of the game, DJ's tackle on INT

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2023 10:12 am
may have also saved the game.
he's going to have his hands full against SF  
KDavies : 9/18/2023 10:16 am : link
QB, top running option, and starting MLB
I looked at that play  
M.S. : 9/18/2023 10:16 am : link

Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him?

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?
RE: I looked at that play  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2023 10:17 am : link
In comment 16211278 M.S. said:
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Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him?

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?


If DJ doesn't get there, the defender scores.
This is a great point  
UberAlias : 9/18/2023 10:24 am : link
Honestly, the national media will never appreciate Jones. They look at a nerdish kid from Duke and are uncapable of seeing past that and recognizing his toughness and other qualities. The real football people di see it, but overall it will never be part of the narrative.
RE: This is a great point  
KDavies : 9/18/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16211295 UberAlias said:
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Honestly, the national media will never appreciate Jones. They look at a nerdish kid from Duke and are uncapable of seeing past that and recognizing his toughness and other qualities. The real football people di see it, but overall it will never be part of the narrative.


Nope. Some of them made their mind up that Jones was a terrible pick, and the Giants should have taken Haskins. Some foolish talking heads even claimed the Giants organization was racist for selecting Jones over Haskins.
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ryanmkeane : 9/18/2023 10:35 am : link
Lots of moments in a game like that HAVE to happen if you are coming back from a 20 point deficit. The Cardinals late hit penalty which was iffy. The Jones to Barkley TD. The block in the back which was also a bit iffy.
40 million  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/18/2023 10:35 am : link
was a bargain......
He's like Shohei Ohtani  
HBart : 9/18/2023 10:39 am : link
The Giants best player on both sides of the ball. Well maybe 3rd best on D.
Another bad play by Barkley  
RollBlue : 9/18/2023 10:42 am : link
if that were Engram......................
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ryanmkeane : 9/18/2023 10:45 am : link
I can't imagine what NFL Network and ESPN would be doing today if that was Mahomes instead of Jones.
Not sure but  
k2tampa : 9/18/2023 10:46 am : link
Campbell might have been able to push him out of bounds because Jones made him alter his route. But it would have been another 10 yards closer to the end zone.

The other thing I noticed was it looks like the defender actually gets Barkley's facemask after the ball deflects off him.
RE: RE: I looked at that play  
Joe Beckwith : 9/18/2023 11:20 am : link
In comment 16211279 Eric from BBI said:
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Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him?

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?



If DJ doesn't get there, the defender scores.

+1.
Yes the sideline was there but he took a good angle and made the effort to stop the play. We’ve seen other QBs just try to be obstacles until help arrives.
RE: RE: I looked at that play  
Ivan15 : 9/18/2023 11:31 am : link
In comment 16211279 Eric from BBI said:
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Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him? _______________________
Yup! It may not have been a great play by a defensive back but was a pretty good play by a QB.

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?



If DJ doesn't get there, the defender scores.
RE: RE: RE: I looked at that play  
Ivan15 : 9/18/2023 11:34 am : link
In comment 16211457 Ivan15 said:
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In comment 16211279 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 16211278 M.S. said:


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Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him? _______________________
Yup! It may not have been a great play by a defensive back but was a pretty good play by a QB.

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?



If DJ doesn't get there, the defender scores.

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Sorry Eric. I stepped on your reply. I need to preview my stuff.
It wasn't just that Jones made the effort  
Coopcomic : 9/18/2023 11:39 am : link
The impressive thing to me is that the DB is running down the sidelines, Jones is with him - and then he gives a juke hesitation like he might cut and Jones stops right with him. So, Jones doesn't bite - and the guy is run out of bounds. Not many QBs make that play - it's pure athleticism along with the effort.
RE: Another bad play by Barkley  
Rory : 9/18/2023 12:06 pm : link
In comment 16211339 RollBlue said:
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if that were Engram......................


rollblue do you have some anti SB agenda? He got popped hard both times which led to the INT. check yourself kid
Shout out to the kid with the half Duke half giant  
Stephen in Sofla : 9/18/2023 12:07 pm : link
Helmet.
That had to make D. Jones's day!
RE: RE: This is a great point  
JOrthman : 9/18/2023 12:10 pm : link
In comment 16211308 KDavies said:
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In comment 16211295 UberAlias said:


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Honestly, the national media will never appreciate Jones. They look at a nerdish kid from Duke and are uncapable of seeing past that and recognizing his toughness and other qualities. The real football people di see it, but overall it will never be part of the narrative.



Nope. Some of them made their mind up that Jones was a terrible pick, and the Giants should have taken Haskins. Some foolish talking heads even claimed the Giants organization was racist for selecting Jones over Haskins.


The media seems to do this all the time. They prejudge a player by where they are drafted and where they thought they should have been drafted. OR in Eli's case, all the draft drama prior. Once that is established, it becomes very hard to win them over unless you become an All pro.

I was just watching a few sports shows and they were downplaying the commanders because of Howell at QB. Now, I don't know what Howell will do in the future, but they seem to be basing that more on his draft status then what he's done on the field.
I don’t think the roughing penalty on the Cards  
cosmicj : 9/18/2023 12:11 pm : link
was borderline at all. Jones was tackled and on the ground and two guys hit him without pulling up.
The bad roughing call  
cosmicj : 9/18/2023 12:28 pm : link
was the one called on McKinney in the 1st qt. He was standing there and Dobbs slid into him.
Hey Rory,  
RollBlue : 9/18/2023 1:30 pm : link
the one against Dallas I agree. The one yesterday went right through his hands, he didn't get "popped".

I didn't like most of Barkleys game yesterday. He did make a few really good plays, but I think most on here over value him at this point. In addition, players like Engram would be torched big time here for similar gaffes.
RE: This is a great point  
gersh : 9/18/2023 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16211295 UberAlias said:
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Honestly, the national media will never appreciate Jones. They look at a nerdish kid from Duke and are uncapable of seeing past that and recognizing his toughness and other qualities. The real football people di see it, but overall it will never be part of the narrative.


Exactly
Unless you are yelling and pumping your fist all the time- no one is going to talk you up (unless you have undeniable and consistent success)

It was so annoying hearing Schlereth talking up that undrafted and rusher on the Cardinals. He look, it’s a white guy with long hair, making a play and being very emotional, gotta love that guy.!
With most QBs in the NFL that's 6. DJ is tough and  
Blue21 : 9/18/2023 2:21 pm : link
Athletic. He wasn't giving that one up.
RE: RE: I looked at that play  
rnargi : 9/18/2023 2:25 pm : link
In comment 16211279 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16211278 M.S. said:


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Wasn't the Cardinal sorta hemmed in on the side-line and sorta angling out when Daniel Jones dove at him?

Which is not to take anything away from our QB. Clearly the effort was there to get in on the play and maybe it was only due to Daniel Jones' effort that the guy was corralled by the sideline.

But I'm not sure about that?



If DJ doesn't get there, the defender scores.


That was also one more tackle than KT5 had in the game.
Great point Eric  
Matt M. : 9/18/2023 2:52 pm : link
I was also going to point out he had more tackles than KT, but was beaten to it.
RE: This is a great point  
islander1 : 9/18/2023 2:54 pm : link
In comment 16211295 UberAlias said:
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Honestly, the national media will never appreciate Jones. They look at a nerdish kid from Duke and are uncapable of seeing past that and recognizing his toughness and other qualities. The real football people di see it, but overall it will never be part of the narrative.


The guy almost never makes 'a business decision' out there.
He kinda looked like Jason Sehorn out there  
Lurts : 9/18/2023 3:05 pm : link
Length, speed, great form, imposing his will on the receiver.
RE: Hey Rory,  
Rory : 9/19/2023 11:28 am : link
In comment 16211803 RollBlue said:
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the one against Dallas I agree. The one yesterday went right through his hands, he didn't get "popped".

I didn't like most of Barkleys game yesterday. He did make a few really good plays, but I think most on here over value him at this point. In addition, players like Engram would be torched big time here for similar gaffes.


watch again man, defender is right on top of him when he makes the catch. also the defender was coming in with his helmet...I'd be a little distracted too.
and then the defense held to a field goal  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2023 11:29 am : link
that whole sequence gave them a little life..
RE: RE: Hey Rory,  
section125 : 9/19/2023 11:32 am : link
In comment 16212749 Rory said:
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In comment 16211803 RollBlue said:


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the one against Dallas I agree. The one yesterday went right through his hands, he didn't get "popped".

I didn't like most of Barkleys game yesterday. He did make a few really good plays, but I think most on here over value him at this point. In addition, players like Engram would be torched big time here for similar gaffes.



watch again man, defender is right on top of him when he makes the catch. also the defender was coming in with his helmet...I'd be a little distracted too.


roll blue is right, that ball went through his hands before anything else. Yes, Dallas game he got popped(not an excuse - hold the ball.)
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