Skinner OL Report Raises Coaching Question To Me

when it comes to his punch, and that his technique (set, reset, set, reset) is not the result of coaching from Bobby Johnson.

Conversely, as far as the eye test goes, you see some of the same punch technique flaws with Neal, Peart, Ezeudu. I haven't watched enough of McKethan to have an opinion on it.

I think it's a valid question and worthy of some criticism.

JMS, Ezeudu and McKethan grow into reliable starters.

Also slow getting his hands up versus Dallas?

In comment 16212917 Trainmaster said:

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Also slow getting his hands up versus Dallas?

He was slow last year as well.

In comment 16212911 Ira said:

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JMS, Ezeudu and McKethan grow into reliable starters.

It's interesting that JMS does not have the issues with hand placement. Right at the snap, his hands immediately go up.

vs an inferior player thing. You've got to imagine the Giant coaches tell the players how to do things but that doesn't mean the players will internalize and do it.

As Sy has said, o-line play, and depth, in the league sucks. Sometimes you gotta roll with an incomplete player because there isn't an upgrade out there.

That could describe the Giants situation more than the coaches aren't doing their jobs.

he said lower hands is more of an OT thing, guards should start with hands higher or something akin to that.

Yet, it is hard to break old habits. Try changing your swing golfing. You can practice all you want, you will fall back to the old swing when playing or under pressure until you have been doing it about 10000 times - not an exaggerated number. I am sure these guys have the same issues, especially when footwork is being changed along with hand placement. In college pure ability got them through. Now they are up against people every bit as athletic as themselves.

What I liked about Ezeudu is how crazy quick his feet are. His steps are barely noticeable.

here as saying you want to wait to get your hands up as late as possible before engaging with the DL across from you because getting hands up early gave the DL an earlier target to swipe, swim, or hatchet down and then make his move, whether inside or outside or spin?

In comment 16212845 regulator said:

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when it comes to his punch, and that his technique (set, reset, set, reset) is not the result of coaching from Bobby Johnson. Conversely, as far as the eye test goes, you see some of the same punch technique flaws with Neal, Peart, Ezeudu. I haven't watched enough of McKethan to have an opinion on it. I think it's a valid question and worthy of some criticism.

Is this punch wrong or just unconventional and Bobby Skinner misconstrues it as wrong?

let me get this straight.

Marcus McKethan tore his ACL last year in an intra-squad scrimmage. He missed the preseason and the regular season.

He missed all of the OTAs and mini-camps this year. He started off training camp on the PUP. He played sparingly this preseason.

He just started his first NFL game and did well given the circumstances.

If anything, the coaches did a fantastic job getting him ready.

Think.
Every McKethan snap - ( New Window )

Neal should get reps at guard.

In comment 16213179 Ira said:

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Neal should get reps at guard.

I suggest we come out with a new lineup every week. Every player should play a new position for the next game.

In comment 16213169 Eric from BBI said:

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let me get this straight. Marcus McKethan tore his ACL last year in an intra-squad scrimmage. He missed the preseason and the regular season. He missed all of the OTAs and mini-camps this year. He started off training camp on the PUP. He played sparingly this preseason. He just started his first NFL game and did well given the circumstances. If anything, the coaches did a fantastic job getting him ready. Think. Every McKethan snap - ( New Window )

That was a fun watch. McKethan has some nice power. Him and JMS worked well together. JMS has a good feel for where pressure is coming from and McKethan's head was on a swivel. It was impressive considering it was their 2nd and 1st game in the NFL

Was nicely blocked with Neal riding the rusher back and then burying him when DJ stepped up. JMS and McKethan did nicely handling some DL games and allowed Jones to step up and take off.

Where do you get your expertise of hand punch and when and how quickly an offensive lineman should get his hands up? I’m genuinely curious. I’m guessing you have zero expertise in the matter because there are a million techniques taught and a bunch of moving parts involved in how and why one technique may be better than others at different positions and in different schemes. I’m not trying to be a dick, but you started the thread so I’m assuming (hoping) you have more inexperience than just what you e read off the internet?

In comment 16213208 BigBlueShock said:

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Where do you get your expertise of hand punch and when and how quickly an offensive lineman should get his hands up? I’m genuinely curious. I’m guessing you have zero expertise in the matter because there are a million techniques taught and a bunch of moving parts involved in how and why one technique may be better than others at different positions and in different schemes. I’m not trying to be a dick, but you started the thread so I’m assuming (hoping) you have more inexperience than just what you e read off the internet?

SO you think that McKethan is being taught to keep his hands at his side and let a defensive lineman get into his body? You think he is being taught to not punch and just catch the lineman? Admittedly, my opinion is primarily based on Skinner crticizing the technique, but it is alos based on the fact that JMS does the exact opposite. He gets his hands up immediately and immediately engages the defender with his hands.