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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:06 pm
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/21/2023 11:07 pm : link
Beat Seattle.
This  
Giantsbigblue : 9/21/2023 11:08 pm : link
Defense is not doing it for me. The offense at least has key people missing.
We got whooped  
armstead98 : 9/21/2023 11:08 pm : link
Need AT and Bredesen back for a semblance of offense.

Defense is terrible, that’s the biggest concern for me.
Zero tackling.  
SoZKillA : 9/21/2023 11:08 pm : link
Bad play calling from both Wink and Kafka.

They can’t afford to loser anymore games the next month or it is over.
They're SAVING the good plays for Seattle!  
x meadowlander : 9/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
I think...
I hate the fuckin 49ers  
Chris684 : 9/21/2023 11:10 pm : link
..
no hyatt, horrible gameplan  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
horrible
At one point, I was really impressed how we hung around for as long  
Anakim : 9/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
as we did, but then it all went to shit. Just pathetic tackling, particularly from the secondary. Tre Hawkins III was awful, McKinney plays like he doesn't give a shit, NO pressure from the outside.


And the offense mostly were just ineffective
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:11 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
So surprising  
M.S. : 9/21/2023 11:12 pm : link

An outcome?
Good thing  
Sammo85 : 9/21/2023 11:12 pm : link
They came back in Arizona because it could really get ugly fast and bottom could fall out if they don’t beat Seattle. I still think this is only maybe a 6 win team.

I see huge talent discrepancies on roster. This team is still far off from having dominant talent at all levels that align/feed into one another on both sides of ball.
RE: ...  
M.S. : 9/21/2023 11:13 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.

This is non-sensical. Did he watch the game? Apparently not.
Bad tackling.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/21/2023 11:14 pm : link

Can't get off the field on 3rd down

Our "stars" don't show up in big moments. Waller, Thibs ect.

Undisciplined , back breaking penalties at the worst times.

No turnovers.

Adoree Jackson plays off the ball every play. 3rd and 2? He's 10 yards behind.

Frustrating team to watch.
I couldn't foresee us winning this game  
Anakim : 9/21/2023 11:14 pm : link
It was encouraging for a bit, but the most frustrating thing is the lack of fundamentals. Tackling, blocking, doing your assignment, catching the fucking ball. You know, the basics.
expectations for the season  
Gap92 : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
Officially tempered
This team is Garbage!  
ZogZerg : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
They don't play smart and they are soft.

Glad they have 10 captains.
Giants didn't have a shot in this game  
Breeze_94 : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
even with Barkley, Thomas, etc.

Not sure I can find many positives, besides McFadden.
RE: ...  
cosmicj : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.


I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
Perhaps there's hope  
terptacular : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
Maybe one of our coaches will invent flubber
RE: ...  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.


Giants were a playoff team a year ago. It's game 3, getting blown out 30-12 and we "competed". That's funny.
Okay with it  
Spider43 : 9/21/2023 11:16 pm : link
We kept it close for a bit, I can't complain.
The Giants have some work to do.  
sb2003 : 9/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
And the niners are overrated.
I understand  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.

RE: Good thing  
GiantGrit : 9/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
In comment 16216530 Sammo85 said:
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They came back in Arizona because it could really get ugly fast and bottom could fall out if they don’t beat Seattle. I still think this is only maybe a 6 win team.

I see huge talent discrepancies on roster. This team is still far off from having dominant talent at all levels that align/feed into one another on both sides of ball.


Not only do I agree with this, but I am once again thinking its 2 years away. Because guys like McKinney, Ojulari, Saquon, Leo Williams and Adoree Jackson may not be long for this team and the jury is very much out on KT and Neal. They have a lot of holes.

I'm kinda baffled at how devoid of talent the team still is and I'm starting to question both coordinators.
evan Neal hurt  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
looked liek a sprain ankle
certain military officials...  
thrunthrublue : 9/21/2023 11:17 pm : link
described Custer's little big horn operation as encouraging also. to the same end.....2023 Giants, are a pitiful dumpster fire of a cluster fuck. Start watching the USC college games, cause that qb could be headed to the meadowlands.
Tim in Eternal Blue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
The Giants had an easy schedule a year ago. They don't now.

Many of us predicted this. Worse record despite better roster.
Banged up, short week, playing the best team in the conference  
Greg from LI : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
Frankly, why is anyone surprised?
RE: I understand  
Simms11 : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.


Yup! Might even get it from the Commanders
Have to wonder if McKinney  
bceagle05 : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
is damaged goods after that accident last year. Can’t tackle at all.
I'm at a point with  
Breeze_94 : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
Jackson, McKinney, and Williams where all 3 could walk after this season and I wouldn't feel a thing.

In fact, there's not a single guy worth resigning when you add in Campbell, Bredeson, Holmes, A'Shawn.

Next offseason is going to be another one with a TON of turnover. They don't win next week and they are staring a top 10 pick in the face.
talent discrepancy is one thing  
black aces : 9/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
but completely outmatched regarding physicality

sideline looks like a mash unit
RE: I understand  
sb2003 : 9/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.


The niners are a better team. However, This game they were gifted a bit too much.
RE: RE: ...  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16216569 cosmicj said:
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In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:


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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.



I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I see a lot of positive things
RE: I understand  
terptacular : 9/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.


The tough part for me is that our much ballyhoo'd acquisitions don't look very good.
RE: ...  
WillVAB : 9/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.


This reads like the comments after Joe Judge Giants losses.
RE: I understand  
GiantGrit : 9/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.


I think in 48 hours many will come around to this. Long term concerns - I see some young guys who you really need to emerge not panning out and I'm starting to question scheme on both sides of the ball.

McFadden was a bright spot tonight.
Lot of players on the Giants that aren’t long for this team.  
ThomasG : 9/21/2023 11:20 pm : link
And some are Schoen picks.

Truth hurts.
RE: ...  
BH28 : 9/21/2023 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.


The reality is they aren't good enough to beat good teams. They play a lot of good teams this year. They aren't developing into anything this year.
RE: evan Neal hurt  
beatrixkiddo : 9/21/2023 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16216590 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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looked liek a sprain ankle


Who cares, once Thomasnis back they should move Ezeudu to RT. Can play next to his college teammate. Can’t be worse than Neal. I’ve seen enough, he is not an NFL OT, maybe he can be a serviceable OG if they move him inside. What a way ti follow up the shit show that Gettleman left, to have two picks inside the top 10 and for both to be complete busts. This franchise isn’t going anywhere.
RE: RE: I understand  
Greg from LI : 9/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16216602 Simms11 said:
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In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:


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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.




Yup! Might even get it from the Commanders


I will never, ever understand why this board has perpetually, for almost three decades now, been desperate to be afraid of the shitty ass Skins
When  
Sammo85 : 9/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
you have four busts in your top four picks across 2021 and 2022 - I guess not surprising?

Toney was a headcase, Ojulari never plays. Thibs is a ghost. Evan Neal flat out sucks at football.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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2m
Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent
RE: Banged up, short week, playing the best team in the conference  
Everyone Relax : 9/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16216601 Greg from LI said:
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Frankly, why is anyone surprised?

Not at all surprised, and if I didn’t watch, woke up tomorrow to check the score I wouldn’t have batted an eye. It just sucks watching it
After all the off-season talk  
mittenedman : 9/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
I was really looking forward to watching Waller, but…..yeah.

He looks like he’s struggling with the hamstring - no explosion.

Giants never seem to get the All Pro player.
waller is just not a difference maker  
amindan54 : 9/21/2023 11:22 pm : link
thts been dissapointing.
Frustrating but not horrible  
George : 9/21/2023 11:22 pm : link
Not getting off the field on third downs makes me crazy, and having a grabby secondary doesn’t help.

But we were within one score at the end of three quarters, which is all you could hope for against a legit Super Bowl contender.

I can see us at 4-4 at the end of October.
RE: ...  
ThomasG : 9/21/2023 11:22 pm : link
In comment 16216635 Eric from BBI said:
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Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent


Both guys having a bad 2023.

No surprise.
The fact that Shane Lemieux is on this team  
TrueBlue'02 : 9/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
much less playing, means that this team cannot evaluate OL talent.

He is not an NFL player.
RE: Tim in Eternal Blue  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
In comment 16216598 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giants had an easy schedule a year ago. They don't now.

Many of us predicted this. Worse record despite better roster.


Oh I understand. I just think Stapleton's comment is ridiculous. There was zero to be encouraged by the Giants offense. Literally nothing. 150 yards. Giants are the first team since 08 to have less than 100 yards at the half in 3 straight games. The defense had some decent stops but they gave up 450 yards, 30+ points and can't tackle.

What exactly was encouraging? That it wasn't 50-12? GTFOH Art
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