I know the talent isn't all there and we have rookie corners, but your main job was to stop Deebo Samuel because he is their ONLY threat on the outside, yet he finishes with 6 catches, 129 yards, 1 td?! lol. Coaching has to be better. Both OC & DC suck ass this year?!
you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.
The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.
The niners are a better team. However, This game they were gifted a bit too much.
Yes i agree, the refs gave the 49ers alot of calls in the 2nd and 3rd qtr. alot
Art Stapleton
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The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
This reads like the comments after Joe Judge Giants losses.
Yeah not seeing the upside either. In particular the offense has been complete unable to compete on any level in the last three matchups against the cream of the NFC. I expect the D to be a work in progress
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
Bingo!
I think once they got the lead - they tried a few things that didn’t work to show upcoming teams what they needed to guard.
Eric is right, both Eagles games are going to be as brutal as last year. Schedule this year is brutal and they aren’t close yet. They’ll stick with the middle and bottom tier teams, get wrecked by the top teams like tonight.
It’s classic Giants. All we hear is he’s kicking ass, dominant #1. Then right before the DAL game. He’s got a hamstring that will need to be managed all year, which happens to be the same hamstring hes had problems with for years.
Right there, that changed the trajectory and outlook for this team. We needed him to be “the guy”.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
I don't think san fran will be as good as last year.
no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.
RE: Lot of players on the Giants that aren’t long for this team.
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent
Both guys having a bad 2023.
No surprise.
They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.
But it's fair to point out there isn't much there from any move he has made since being hired. Not all of it is his fault as Neal was considered the best lineman in the entire draft. But it is the reality. The contribution from any move he has made has been lacking.
no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.
Charlotte Carroll
@charlottecrrll
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent
Both guys having a bad 2023.
No surprise.
They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.
Looks like Neal got hurt. I hope he's okay but if he misses a lot of time that might be it for him, given the development he needs.
no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.
The Giants are making strides in the right direction, but they are not a top tier team. They are not going to be competitive against the 49ers. Two years ago this team was a bottom feeder. It is not that any longer, but two of the first three games were against top 10 teams. Those are not games this team will win.
You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.
was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
I’m looking for consistency from Waller. I’m not talking about the fact they lost. It’s just my opinion watching him in total these first 3 weeks. The explosion isn’t there.
He can still move the chains, he’s not a bad player, he’s just not the dominant #1 he was being billed as. IMO.
you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.
The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.
the QB sucking tonight. He sucked tonight. Its okay to say it.
He missed the one throw to waller that was unforgivable. But the playcalling was atrocious. Jones cannot just drop back 30-40 times with this roster and play well. Thats not him. He needs play action. It makes the reads easier, but also allows them to protect better. Kafka abandoned any pretense of running the football almost immediately.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I hope Art’s right because at the moment I see a team regressing to the mean.
A prediction some probably had. They need to split the next 2 though. This team isn’t playoff ready but they’ve gotta keep their head above water on this early stretch. Think we see offensive improvement when we’re not facing top 3 offenses and get AT back but the defense needs to figure it out quick. We’ll be dead before we have the chance to improve otherwise.
The Giants are making strides in the right direction, but they are not a top tier team. They are not going to be competitive against the 49ers. Two years ago this team was a bottom feeder. It is not that any longer, but two of the first three games were against top 10 teams. Those are not games this team will win.
You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.
The defense got their ass kicked. And our OL got bitched.
I'm actually surprised they played the 49ers tough through 3 quarters, while missing their 2 best players on offense. Chin up this isn't a 40-0 loss on opening night at home.
He looks like he’s struggling with the hamstring - no explosion.
Giants never seem to get the All Pro player.
He has had Hammy issues for 2 years now. It’s obviously a problem, Giants needed to roll the dice though, they have no playmakers.
He looks like he’s struggling with the hamstring - no explosion.
Giants never seem to get the All Pro player.
They have scored a few All pro. They just turn out to be headcases.
But we were within one score at the end of three quarters, which is all you could hope for against a legit Super Bowl contender.
I can see us at 4-4 at the end of October.
This defense is not built to match up with teams it’s playing.
Seahawks, Dolphins, Bills will destroy this defense.
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.
The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.
The niners are a better team. However, This game they were gifted a bit too much.
Yes i agree, the refs gave the 49ers alot of calls in the 2nd and 3rd qtr. alot
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
When San Fran also played on a short week?
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
This reads like the comments after Joe Judge Giants losses.
Yeah not seeing the upside either. In particular the offense has been complete unable to compete on any level in the last three matchups against the cream of the NFC. I expect the D to be a work in progress
Haha. Everyone will be a complete embarrassment, get the clown cars out!
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
Bingo!
I think once they got the lead - they tried a few things that didn’t work to show upcoming teams what they needed to guard.
Whenever they needed a play, it came really easy.
It’s classic Giants. All we hear is he’s kicking ass, dominant #1. Then right before the DAL game. He’s got a hamstring that will need to be managed all year, which happens to be the same hamstring hes had problems with for years.
Right there, that changed the trajectory and outlook for this team. We needed him to be “the guy”.
And, some of the guys we were counting on to step up have been lack luster.
When San Fran also played on a short week?
The road team on Thursday night football is always at a huge disadvantage. Everyone knows this.
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.
I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
I don't think san fran will be as good as last year.
Truth hurts.
Yup. That 2022 draft was awful when you look at the return on draft capital.
Thibodeaux looks like a JAG
Neal is a bottom 2-3 RT
Robinson can't stay on the field, and we see guys with his skill level drafted on day 3 every year
Ezeudu couldn't beat out Glowinski. Maybe he's a depth piece/swing tackle
Flott...
Belton - not sure on him, but assuming he's not anything special.
Bellinger - decent blocker, 0 impact as a receiver. You can sign blocking TE's in July though.
Davidson - won't be here long IMO
McKethan - I don't see it.
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent
Both guys having a bad 2023.
No surprise.
They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
I need a break.
That’s non-competitive and Schoen needs to get that fixed.
LOL
He’s 11-2-1 against everyone else.
Giants are simply not good enough on offensive line or wide receiver to compete with the best teams.
The defense has taken a major step back because they’re fucking soft now. They weren’t good last year, but i never thought that they were soft.
Mitch McFadden showed some balls tonight unlike most of his teammates.
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
Waller has 9 catches for 112 yards in 3 games.
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent
Both guys having a bad 2023.
No surprise.
They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.
Looks like Neal got hurt. I hope he's okay but if he misses a lot of time that might be it for him, given the development he needs.
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no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.
LOL
Schoen needs to bring in talent, fast.
Playmakers are needed and we have none.
You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.
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was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
Waller has 9 catches for 112 yards in 3 games.
And no TD's.
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
108-19 their last three games against good teams. It’s not just one game.
and Breida ran hard.
Other than these two guys, the Giants individually and collectively as a team were beaten into the ground by a far superior team.
Any other players I should add to the Breida/McFadden list? Our punter? Our place kicker? John-Michael Schmidt?
Everyone is killing Waller but I didn’t love Jones’ ball placement on the throws in question, and those were the best chances for chunk plays
Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
I’m looking for consistency from Waller. I’m not talking about the fact they lost. It’s just my opinion watching him in total these first 3 weeks. The explosion isn’t there.
He can still move the chains, he’s not a bad player, he’s just not the dominant #1 he was being billed as. IMO.
The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.
Just compete
Seattle beating Detroit in Detroit...Lights are Out...
He missed the one throw to waller that was unforgivable. But the playcalling was atrocious. Jones cannot just drop back 30-40 times with this roster and play well. Thats not him. He needs play action. It makes the reads easier, but also allows them to protect better. Kafka abandoned any pretense of running the football almost immediately.
How are you not getting this?
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.
They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.
I hope Art’s right because at the moment I see a team regressing to the mean.
You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.
The defense got their ass kicked. And our OL got bitched.
We are going in the direction from 2017-2021
Rest up there some winnable games in the next 6
He’s 11-2-1 against everyone else.
Giants are simply not good enough on offensive line or wide receiver to compete with the best teams.
The defense has taken a major step back because they’re fucking soft now. They weren’t good last year, but i never thought that they were soft.
Mitch McFadden showed some balls tonight unlike most of his teammates.
A better stat is that he's 5-9-1 since his 6-1 start.
Everyone is killing Waller but I didn’t love Jones’ ball placement on the throws in question, and those were the best chances for chunk plays
Oh no, you know you’re not allowed to criticize blessed St. Daniel