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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:06 pm
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This is how you know you DC is doing a good job.  
prdave73 : 9/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
I know the talent isn't all there and we have rookie corners, but your main job was to stop Deebo Samuel because he is their ONLY threat on the outside, yet he finishes with 6 catches, 129 yards, 1 td?! lol. Coaching has to be better. Both OC & DC suck ass this year?!
RE: After all the off-season talk  
beatrixkiddo : 9/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
In comment 16216639 mittenedman said:
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I was really looking forward to watching Waller, but…..yeah.

He looks like he’s struggling with the hamstring - no explosion.

Giants never seem to get the All Pro player.


He has had Hammy issues for 2 years now. It’s obviously a problem, Giants needed to roll the dice though, they have no playmakers.
The big question  
Everyone Relax : 9/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
Is who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give the Giants 4 prime time games in the first 6 weeks of the season
RE: After all the off-season talk  
sb2003 : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16216639 mittenedman said:
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I was really looking forward to watching Waller, but…..yeah.

He looks like he’s struggling with the hamstring - no explosion.

Giants never seem to get the All Pro player.


They have scored a few All pro. They just turn out to be headcases.
RE: Frustrating but not horrible  
Sammo85 : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16216647 George said:
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Not getting off the field on third downs makes me crazy, and having a grabby secondary doesn’t help.

But we were within one score at the end of three quarters, which is all you could hope for against a legit Super Bowl contender.

I can see us at 4-4 at the end of October.


This defense is not built to match up with teams it’s playing.

Seahawks, Dolphins, Bills will destroy this defense.
RE: RE: I understand  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16216610 sb2003 said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.




The niners are a better team. However, This game they were gifted a bit too much.


Yes i agree, the refs gave the 49ers alot of calls in the 2nd and 3rd qtr. alot
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ajr2456 : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16216569 cosmicj said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.



I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.


I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.
Why is “short week” a factor for the Giants  
M.S. : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link

When San Fran also played on a short week?
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Lambuth_Special : 9/21/2023 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16216616 WillVAB said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.



This reads like the comments after Joe Judge Giants losses.


Yeah not seeing the upside either. In particular the offense has been complete unable to compete on any level in the last three matchups against the cream of the NFC. I expect the D to be a work in progress
RE: The big question  
beatrixkiddo : 9/21/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16216662 Everyone Relax said:
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Is who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give the Giants 4 prime time games in the first 6 weeks of the season


Haha. Everyone will be a complete embarrassment, get the clown cars out!
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JT039 : 9/21/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16216670 ajr2456 said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.



I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.



I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.


Bingo!

I think once they got the lead - they tried a few things that didn’t work to show upcoming teams what they needed to guard.

Whenever they needed a play, it came really easy.
Entirely predictable outcome,  
darren in pdx : 9/21/2023 11:25 pm : link
Eric is right, both Eagles games are going to be as brutal as last year. Schedule this year is brutal and they aren’t close yet. They’ll stick with the middle and bottom tier teams, get wrecked by the top teams like tonight.
RE: waller is just not a difference maker  
mittenedman : 9/21/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16216646 amindan54 said:
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thts been dissapointing.


It’s classic Giants. All we hear is he’s kicking ass, dominant #1. Then right before the DAL game. He’s got a hamstring that will need to be managed all year, which happens to be the same hamstring hes had problems with for years.

Right there, that changed the trajectory and outlook for this team. We needed him to be “the guy”.

I don't think much of our offensive play caller.  
fkap : 9/21/2023 11:26 pm : link
and it isn't just this game.

And, some of the guys we were counting on to step up have been lack luster.
RE: Why is “short week” a factor for the Giants  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16216673 M.S. said:
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When San Fran also played on a short week?


The road team on Thursday night football is always at a huge disadvantage. Everyone knows this.
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sb2003 : 9/21/2023 11:26 pm : link
In comment 16216670 ajr2456 said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.



I’m with Stapleton. That was a credible effort with the 49ers pulling away in the 2nd half. The Giants obviously need to improve but nothing really unexpected happened.



I think San Fran took it easy being a short week.


I don't think san fran will be as good as last year.
2-15......  
thrunthrublue : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.
RE: Lot of players on the Giants that aren’t long for this team.  
Breeze_94 : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16216620 ThomasG said:
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And some are Schoen picks.

Truth hurts.


Yup. That 2022 draft was awful when you look at the return on draft capital.

Thibodeaux looks like a JAG

Neal is a bottom 2-3 RT

Robinson can't stay on the field, and we see guys with his skill level drafted on day 3 every year

Ezeudu couldn't beat out Glowinski. Maybe he's a depth piece/swing tackle

Flott...

Belton - not sure on him, but assuming he's not anything special.

Bellinger - decent blocker, 0 impact as a receiver. You can sign blocking TE's in July though.

Davidson - won't be here long IMO

McKethan - I don't see it.




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Hammer : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
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Charlotte Carroll
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent



Both guys having a bad 2023.

No surprise.


They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.
I like Schoen  
moespree : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
But it's fair to point out there isn't much there from any move he has made since being hired. Not all of it is his fault as Neal was considered the best lineman in the entire draft. But it is the reality. The contribution from any move he has made has been lacking.

I haven't seen one word about  
Chris L. : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
the QB sucking tonight. He sucked tonight. Its okay to say it.
Waller  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:27 pm : link
was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.

Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.
They have 11 days to figure this shit out  
The_Boss : 9/21/2023 11:28 pm : link
Lose at home to Seattle with Miami and Buffalo after that and you can turn out the lights.
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Danny Kanell : 9/21/2023 11:28 pm : link
Thank God they’re off for 11 days.

I need a break.
Btw  
mittenedman : 9/21/2023 11:28 pm : link
Now 108-19 last 3 games vs. PHI, DAL & SF.

That’s non-competitive and Schoen needs to get that fixed.
RE: 2-15......  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:29 pm : link
In comment 16216685 thrunthrublue said:
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no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.


LOL
As i said in game thread,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/21/2023 11:29 pm : link
Daboll is 0-7 versus PHI, DAL, & SF

He’s 11-2-1 against everyone else.

Giants are simply not good enough on offensive line or wide receiver to compete with the best teams.

The defense has taken a major step back because they’re fucking soft now. They weren’t good last year, but i never thought that they were soft.

Mitch McFadden showed some balls tonight unlike most of his teammates.
RE: Waller  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/21/2023 11:29 pm : link
In comment 16216692 Eric from BBI said:
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was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.

Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.


Waller has 9 catches for 112 yards in 3 games.
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FStubbs : 9/21/2023 11:29 pm : link
In comment 16216689 Hammer said:
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Charlotte Carroll
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Evan Neal getting attention on sidelines per broadcast and Leonard Williams just came out of the blue medical tent



Both guys having a bad 2023.

No surprise.



They need to get Neal off the field. He can't protect the quarterback even when he gets help. He's useless. We're better off with Ezudu. At least he looks comfortable playing the position.


Looks like Neal got hurt. I hope he's okay but if he misses a lot of time that might be it for him, given the development he needs.
RE: RE: 2-15......  
JT039 : 9/21/2023 11:30 pm : link
In comment 16216701 Eric from BBI said:
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no coach of the year trophy for BD....he and JS should be put on the clock in 2024, and if the team does not compete on a professional level in '24, they and their cool dark sunglasses should be sent packing.



LOL


Schoen needs to bring in talent, fast.

Playmakers are needed and we have none.
What were people expecting tonight?  
Mike from Ohio : 9/21/2023 11:30 pm : link
The Giants are making strides in the right direction, but they are not a top tier team. They are not going to be competitive against the 49ers. Two years ago this team was a bottom feeder. It is not that any longer, but two of the first three games were against top 10 teams. Those are not games this team will win.

You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.
RE: RE: Waller  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/21/2023 11:30 pm : link
In comment 16216705 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.

Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.



Waller has 9 catches for 112 yards in 3 games.


And no TD's.
we scored 12  
jmalls23 : 9/21/2023 11:30 pm : link
wow
RE: Waller  
ajr2456 : 9/21/2023 11:30 pm : link
In comment 16216692 Eric from BBI said:
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was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.

Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.


108-19 their last three games against good teams. It’s not just one game.
It was the outcome I expected  
OdellBeckhamJr : 9/21/2023 11:31 pm : link
but it felt like the defense wanted to strip the ball out instead of tackling them. Really frustrating to watch.
McFadden had a nice game  
M.S. : 9/21/2023 11:31 pm : link

and Breida ran hard.

Other than these two guys, the Giants individually and collectively as a team were beaten into the ground by a far superior team.

Any other players I should add to the Breida/McFadden list? Our punter? Our place kicker? John-Michael Schmidt?
RE: I haven't seen one word about  
Lambuth_Special : 9/21/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16216691 Chris L. said:
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the QB sucking tonight. He sucked tonight. Its okay to say it.


Everyone is killing Waller but I didn’t love Jones’ ball placement on the throws in question, and those were the best chances for chunk plays
RE: Waller  
mittenedman : 9/21/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16216692 Eric from BBI said:
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was a huge factor in the Cardinals win. He had six second-half first down catches.

Again, you guys are overreacting to a predictable loss.


I’m looking for consistency from Waller. I’m not talking about the fact they lost. It’s just my opinion watching him in total these first 3 weeks. The explosion isn’t there.
He can still move the chains, he’s not a bad player, he’s just not the dominant #1 he was being billed as. IMO.
RE: I understand  
HewlettGiant : 9/21/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16216584 Eric from BBI said:
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you guys are upset, but this game was entirely predictable.

The Giants are not in the same league with the top teams in the NFL, and the 49ers are one of the top teams. We're going to see this with the Eagles too.

Just compete
RE: They have 11 days to figure this shit out  
mvftw : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16216695 The_Boss said:
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Lose at home to Seattle with Miami and Buffalo after that and you can turn out the lights.

Seattle beating Detroit in Detroit...Lights are Out...
RE: I haven't seen one word about  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16216691 Chris L. said:
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the QB sucking tonight. He sucked tonight. Its okay to say it.


He missed the one throw to waller that was unforgivable. But the playcalling was atrocious. Jones cannot just drop back 30-40 times with this roster and play well. Thats not him. He needs play action. It makes the reads easier, but also allows them to protect better. Kafka abandoned any pretense of running the football almost immediately.
ajr2456  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
Because those teams are THAT much better than the Giants.

How are you not getting this?
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The_Boss : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16216527 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
The Giants are down 30-12 and this sounds crazy to say, but this has been an encouraging performance, relatively speaking, that this team might be able to develop into something after all despite such a brutal start to the year.

They competed on a short week. No moral victories, but didn't back down, either.


I hope Art’s right because at the moment I see a team regressing to the mean.
Yeah they’re 1-2  
AcesUp : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
A prediction some probably had. They need to split the next 2 though. This team isn’t playoff ready but they’ve gotta keep their head above water on this early stretch. Think we see offensive improvement when we’re not facing top 3 offenses and get AT back but the defense needs to figure it out quick. We’ll be dead before we have the chance to improve otherwise.
RE: What were people expecting tonight?  
JT039 : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16216708 Mike from Ohio said:
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The Giants are making strides in the right direction, but they are not a top tier team. They are not going to be competitive against the 49ers. Two years ago this team was a bottom feeder. It is not that any longer, but two of the first three games were against top 10 teams. Those are not games this team will win.

You have to be patient. This team is a long way from a finished product.


The defense got their ass kicked. And our OL got bitched.

We are going in the direction from 2017-2021
I agree with Eric  
fish3321 : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
I'm actually surprised they played the 49ers tough through 3 quarters, while missing their 2 best players on offense. Chin up this isn't a 40-0 loss on opening night at home.

Rest up there some winnable games in the next 6

RE: As i said in game thread,  
FStubbs : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
In comment 16216702 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Daboll is 0-7 versus PHI, DAL, & SF

He’s 11-2-1 against everyone else.

Giants are simply not good enough on offensive line or wide receiver to compete with the best teams.

The defense has taken a major step back because they’re fucking soft now. They weren’t good last year, but i never thought that they were soft.

Mitch McFadden showed some balls tonight unlike most of his teammates.


A better stat is that he's 5-9-1 since his 6-1 start.
*top 3 defenses  
AcesUp : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
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most fans saw this game  
uther99 : 9/21/2023 11:32 pm : link
as a loss in August. No suprise
RE: RE: I haven't seen one word about  
Greg from LI : 9/21/2023 11:33 pm : link
In comment 16216716 Lambuth_Special said:
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Everyone is killing Waller but I didn’t love Jones’ ball placement on the throws in question, and those were the best chances for chunk plays


Oh no, you know you’re not allowed to criticize blessed St. Daniel
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