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Starting O-line going forward for 2023 season

giantsfanforlife : 9/22/2023 12:11 pm

Once Thomas and Bredeson comes back, who will play right guard?

We know Thomas will be the left tackle, Schmitz will still be the center, and Neal will be the right tackle (don't think the team will give up on him just yet). Does Bredeson still play on the left guard or right? If he plays left then who will play right guard? Will it be Josh Ezeudu or Mckethan? Do you think they bring someone outside like Justin Pugh to play the guard? I think we all know Glowinski is going to be a backup going forward with this season.

I know we brought Pugh in for a visit and he's getting older, but still playing well in his career.

Do you think it will be a different rotation?

McKethan has looked ok

eric2425ny : 9/22/2023 12:22 pm : link

at RG. I think Bredeson moves back in at LG. Ezeudu becomes the swing tackle/guard. Glowinski is the 7th guy.

Expect more injuries

HewlettGiant : 9/22/2023 12:30 pm : link

I don't mean to be cryptic but for 10 years we are a team of an injury waiting to happen, I was shocked Adoree came back in the game last night with his shoulder was hanging off to the side.

Now who knows about Banks....Evan Neal went out and did not come back, Barks now with a High ankle sprain.

This team goes through a much above average injuries costing game starts for too long a period.

The O-Line should be

JoeyBigBlue : 9/22/2023 12:31 pm : link

Thomas/Ezeudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal

They are all signed for next season, should get time to gel going forward.

As of today it doesn't matter

Bill in UT : 9/22/2023 12:35 pm : link

where you put any of them. They're all JAGs until they prove otherwise

RE: Thomas/Ezeudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal

Trainmaster : 9/22/2023 12:44 pm : link

My thoughts as well, although Ezeudu for Neal or an Ezeudu / Neal swap later in the season seems like a possibility.

The faster

PaulN : 9/22/2023 12:49 pm : link

They get Neal the fuck out of Right Tackle the better. He sucks. Ezeudu would be better at right tackle now. He has the feet. Neal looks slow and clumsy. Admit you fucked up and move on for the team.

RE: RE: Thomas/Ezeudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal

Hammer : 9/22/2023 12:49 pm : link

In comment 16217788 Trainmaster said:

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My thoughts as well, although Ezeudu for Neal or an Ezeudu / Neal swap later in the season seems like a possibility.

This. Especially the Ezeudu-Neal swap.

The

AcidTest : 9/22/2023 12:53 pm : link

question is who the two guards will be. I have no idea, especially since they likely don't even know. They were constantly shuffling those positions in the hope that clear winners would emerge, which unfortunately did not happen.

But whatever the 2023 OL looks like going forward, it's likely there will yet again be a major shake up in this position group in the offseason. Lemieux, Peart, Glowinski, and Bredeson will likely be gone. Whether Neal will be moved to guard is unknown, but it won't happen this season.

You can give up on Neal

JoeyBigBlue : 9/22/2023 1:01 pm : link

1.5 years into his career when you gave up the 7th overall pick to get him. He needs time to gain confidence and work out his issues.

Thomas/Ezeudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal

This group is signed through the end of the 2025 season. Give them time to gel. O-Line is not just about individual talent. It’s about working together as a group.

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CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/22/2023 1:09 pm : link

Agreed - think we know what we have in Brederson, and he's a FA next year.

Give Thomas.Ezeudu.JMS.Mckethan.Neal time to gel, and by year end, they'll know what needs tinkering.

Didn’t watch the game (out of country)

5BowlsSoon : 9/22/2023 1:15 pm : link

How did Neal look Thursday?

I think that Bredeson is notably better than McKethan at this moment.

gersh : 9/22/2023 1:20 pm : link

I'm all for McKethen getting snaps to see if he's the future, but...
I'd also consider that Bredeson will likely better for Neal's development at the moment.

Bredeson and McKethan platooning at RG for now?

Lemeiux

jeff57 : 9/22/2023 1:21 pm : link

Shane Lemieux at left guard for the Giants finished with a 3.8 pass blocking grade last night vs the 49ers, according to
@PFF
.

Lemieux allowed 5 pressures, 4 hurries and 1 sack.

RE: The O-Line should be

joeinpa : 9/22/2023 1:49 pm : link

In comment 16217763 JoeyBigBlue said:

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Thomas/Ezeudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal

They are all signed for next season, should get time to gel going forward.

Agree. But the future could see Ezeudu and Neal switching positions.

On the Bossa non-safety

Dinger : 9/22/2023 1:49 pm : link

Whose miss was that. Looked like Neal was blocking down and Bellinger thought it was smart to just let Joey go. I wanted to kill both of them. I don’t think there was a person watching who didn’t know Bossa was going to get a sack there. Just incompetent

Is the Pugh thing legit?

bceagle05 : 9/22/2023 2:06 pm : link

I can’t stand him but it’s not my call.

If so, Thomas/Bredeson/JMS/Pugh/Neal would figure to be the alignment, and might just be….average?

RE: Lemeiux

Toth029 : 9/22/2023 3:40 pm : link

In comment 16217852 jeff57 said:

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Shane Lemieux at left guard for the Giants finished with a 3.8 pass blocking grade last night vs the 49ers, according to
@PFF
.

Lemieux allowed 5 pressures, 4 hurries and 1 sack.

With a gameplan of passing, no clue as to why they opted to start him. He isn't any improvement over Glowinski.

RE: Didn’t watch the game (out of country)

Hammer : 9/22/2023 3:42 pm : link

In comment 16217838 5BowlsSoon said:

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How did Neal look Thursday?

He looked awful. He got help on just about every passing play and even with a chipper his guy got to Jones within 2 seconds.

Granted, he was up against Bosa, but he didn't even put up a good fight.

RE: On the Bossa non-safety

Hammer : 9/22/2023 3:45 pm : link

In comment 16217882 Dinger said:

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I'm going to guess that it was one of those plays where the defensive end is supposed to bite on the play fake, Jones is going to bootleg to his right and either run or pass to Bellinger in the flat.

Bosa's assignment was to ignore the running back and run straight at Jones.

And there you have it.

situational football

richinpa : 9/22/2023 4:21 pm : link

Kaftka is a moron for calling this play regardless on our 10 yard line

You need perfection to pull that off

we aren't near perfection

Thomas/Bedeson/Schmitz/Neal/Ezeudu

SteelGiant : 9/22/2023 5:03 pm : link

Sorry, I said it, it’s done. This is our best chance for an a serviceable line in 2023.

I would love to see Neal develop as a tackle but I’m really starting to think he is just not fast enough with feet to get our wide. Ezeudu might not be as good as a blocker has Neal in some categories but he can get out there.

If Ezuedu gets out there and has Neal to help him on the inside might be better than the other way around.

Draft a RT in 2024 and then Ezuedu competes for staring guard or swing tackle.

But if the Giants are thinking about it, I would pull the trigger now because you got 10 days to practice.

What is it with Lemieux?

Kanavis : 9/23/2023 8:34 am : link

I have never seen a 5th round pick get so much leeway. Two regimes seem to have been impressed by him. He has never passed blocked well. Ever. Last year, he was so bad they had to pull him at halftime. What is it? We have seen enough. They basically cannot win if he plays.