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College Football 9/23

Costy16 : 9/22/2023 12:48 pm
The weekend slate we have been waiting for. Great matchups all day and night

12:00 PM
FSU at Clemson
Oklahoma at Cincinnati
Rutgers at Michigan

3:30
Colorado at Oregon
UCLA at Utah
Ole Miss at Alabama

7:00/7:30
Arkansas at LSU
Oregon State at Washington State
Ohio State at Notre Dame
Iowa at Penn State


GO IRISH!!
I have a feeling Deion's team is going to get smoked tomorrow  
Jints in Carolina : 9/22/2023 1:05 pm : link
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Looks like  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/22/2023 1:10 pm : link
a pretty solid slate of games.
Rutgers/Michigan sneaky good game,  
barens : 9/22/2023 1:21 pm : link
wonder if Rutgers can keep it close.
Oregon & SC will provide Colorado  
3000_MilesToMeadowlands : 9/22/2023 1:29 pm : link
with a potential dose of reality. They both have a good front 7 (TCU might, but they rushed 3 much of that game - especially in 2nd half). Shedeur Sanders does not run much to protect him from injury and Oregon & SC will get to him. Colorado O-line is middle of pack at best (running game will most-likely be stifled).

I'll be rooting for Prime & CU, and watch out for a cover if you're a gambler.
RE: Rutgers/Michigan sneaky good game,  
Costy16 : 9/22/2023 2:49 pm : link
In comment 16217853 barens said:
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wonder if Rutgers can keep it close.


Well, it's Michigan's first actual legitimate opponent this season.
Go Clemson!  
RDJR : 9/22/2023 6:08 pm : link
Beat FSU!
RE: Oregon & SC will provide Colorado  
AZ Blue : 9/22/2023 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16217861 3000_MilesToMeadowlands said:
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I'll be rooting for Prime & CU, and watch out for a cover if you're a gambler.


And take the over. Seems inevitable
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/22/2023 7:03 pm : link
Had 12 beers @ Happy Hour? 13 or 14.

Whatever.

ND needs to beat OSU.
RE: Go Clemson!  
section125 : 9/22/2023 7:09 pm : link
In comment 16218157 RDJR said:
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Beat FSU!


Meh....
That's a really good slate for Sept. 23.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/22/2023 8:13 pm : link
UCLA v Utah won't get a lot of pub but that's a strong matchup.
This will be the second time  
JT039 : 9/22/2023 8:14 pm : link
A Bo is going to steamroll Deion haha
Rutgers in a romp - RU35 - Mich 7  
PatersonPlank : 9/22/2023 8:40 pm : link
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RE: Rutgers in a romp - RU35 - Mich 7  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 12:10 pm : link
In comment 16218249 PatersonPlank said:
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Well, NJ Rutgers is off to a great start...
RE: RE: Rutgers in a romp - RU35 - Mich 7  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16218572 bw in dc said:
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Well, NJ Rutgers is off to a great start...


Yes, I might have been too conservative
I wish we had #5...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 12:30 pm : link
for Florida State instead of our #5.
RE: I wish we had #5...  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 12:38 pm : link
In comment 16218591 bw in dc said:
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for Florida State instead of our #5.


You may get your wish at this rate. We can still have both
RE: RE: I wish we had #5...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16218604 JT039 said:
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for Florida State instead of our #5.



You may get your wish at this rate. We can still have both


Verse is growing on me.
Michigan are pretenders  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 12:50 pm : link
Something isn’t right with them and Clemson looks very good to start.
Jordan Travis...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 1:12 pm : link
continues to impress. This QB class is really, really deep.
RE: Jordan Travis...  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16218648 bw in dc said:
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continues to impress. This QB class is really, really deep.


My biggest concern is built and how he seems constantly dinged.
RE: Michigan are pretenders  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 1:22 pm : link
In comment 16218627 JT039 said:
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Something isn’t right with them and Clemson looks very good to start.


FL St looks like pretenders also. Last week barely beat a lousy BC team, this week getting spanked by Clemson (so far at least). No way a top 5 team
Lol Schiano  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 1:23 pm : link
Always such a fucking cry baby. You can tell Urb rubbed off on him in all the Urban Meyer ways possible.
RE: RE: Jordan Travis...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 1:23 pm : link
In comment 16218653 JT039 said:
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continues to impress. This QB class is really, really deep.



My biggest concern is built and how he seems constantly dinged.


That's fair, but he has had a lot of reps and looks to be getting better each year. Which is always a good sign for QB.

I'm not suggesting a lottery pick, but maybe a early day three investment. Let's see how the year plays out...
RE: RE: Michigan are pretenders  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 1:25 pm : link
In comment 16218662 PatersonPlank said:
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Something isn’t right with them and Clemson looks very good to start.



FL St looks like pretenders also. Last week barely beat a lousy BC team, this week getting spanked by Clemson (so far at least). No way a top 5 team


FSU D getting rolled.
RE: Michigan are pretenders  
Costy16 : 9/23/2023 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16218627 JT039 said:
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Something isn’t right with them and Clemson looks very good to start.


Michigan’s schedule sucks
Cry some more  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 2:12 pm : link
Schiano. Dickbag
Just not impressed with fsu  
Knickstape : 9/23/2023 2:21 pm : link
I know they had the big win over lsu week 1 but the struggle against bc the secondary getting picked apart with ease today.

I don’t have any belief in them Making noise for playoffs
Klubnik  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 2:31 pm : link
Has played very well today.

Clemson driving again.
Klubnik got destroyed there  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 2:33 pm : link
A fumble, scoop and score for FSU
Welp  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 2:33 pm : link
I just jinxed him

Season saving play for FSU
Terrific football game between FSU and Clemson  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 2:49 pm : link
Hope that this is the first course of a three course meal
Keep chopping that wood, Schiano.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/23/2023 2:55 pm : link
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Let me tell you something...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 3:19 pm : link
Patrick Payton is the real deal for FSU. He's a tremendous edge defender who will only get better.
Clemson kicker misses a 29 yard chip shot  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 3:20 pm : link
FSU has 1:45 to win it
Clemson kicking woes  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:20 pm : link
😮
RE: Let me tell you something...  
Knickstape : 9/23/2023 3:21 pm : link
In comment 16218763 bw in dc said:
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Patrick Payton is the real deal for FSU. He's a tremendous edge defender who will only get better.



Absolute stud
FSU goes for 4th and 10 from the Clemson 39  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 3:26 pm : link
and the pass is incomplete. Clemson ball with 12 seconds
What horrible play calling...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 3:27 pm : link
by FSU. JFC...embarrassing.
RE: FSU goes for 4th and 10 from the Clemson 39  
bubba0825 : 9/23/2023 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16218775 dpinzow said:
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and the pass is incomplete. Clemson ball with 12 seconds


I guess holding the receiver is allowed
RE: What horrible play calling...  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16218777 bw in dc said:
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by FSU. JFC...embarrassing.


Jump ball city!
That was some incompetent coaching...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 3:29 pm : link
by both sides.
How do you not have your team spike  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 3:31 pm : link
the ball to give you a chance for a hail mary?
Nice catch by Keon Coleman  
jeff57 : 9/23/2023 3:33 pm : link
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Shipley  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:35 pm : link
Is just a fun guy to watch play football.
Awful playcalling  
jeff57 : 9/23/2023 3:36 pm : link
By Clemson the last three drives
3rd and inches  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:36 pm : link
And you do that!?!

Lol
Shine coming off  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:37 pm : link
Dabo really really quick.
RE: Shine coming off  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 3:39 pm : link
In comment 16218792 JT039 said:
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Dabo really really quick.


His inability to adjust to the changing landscape of college football is a bigger problem...
Just a terrific football game  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 3:40 pm : link
Florida St never led in regulation and somehow they pull out the win in OT. They deserve a lot of credit for hanging in there, forcing the sack and fumble return TD to tie it, and the TD in OT to win it
RE: RE: Shine coming off  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:41 pm : link
In comment 16218796 bw in dc said:
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Dabo really really quick.



His inability to adjust to the changing landscape of college football is a bigger problem...


His biggest problem might be his defensive coordinator beating the shit out of him after the game for calling him out at halftime
Oregon goes right down  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 3:57 pm : link
And scores without a blip.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 4:00 pm : link
Love that Dabo hasn't embraced the portal & hates NIL. Keep it up Dabo!
Colorado better do something here  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 4:13 pm : link
Or else gsme will be over soon.
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 4:22 pm : link
In comment 16218822 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Love that Dabo hasn't embraced the portal & hates NIL. Keep it up Dabo!


In case you miss him, Toomy Rees is coordinating the Bama O on CBS... ;)
And Milroe...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 4:23 pm : link
with another great decision...
Lol  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 4:27 pm : link
What a fucking call!
The mirage known as Colorado...  
jnoble : 9/23/2023 4:55 pm : link
...has been exposed
28-0 Oregon  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 4:59 pm : link
...
Troy Franklin...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 5:00 pm : link
is a very good looking WR prospect.
Mississippi leads Alabama 7-6 at halftime  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 5:01 pm : link
Alabama offense struggling again
People who said Oregon  
jeff57 : 9/23/2023 5:02 pm : link
Would blow Colorado out we’re right.
Colorado is looking...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 5:03 pm : link
at 35-0 here if no first down.
RE: The mirage known as Colorado...  
section125 : 9/23/2023 5:03 pm : link
In comment 16218866 jnoble said:
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...has been exposed


Is it a mirage? They actually did win both of their games. Oregon is just a better team.
Ok  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 5:05 pm : link
No more prime time coverage for prime time.

This is like Georgia playing Mercer.
I have to imagine...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 5:05 pm : link
ABC is seeing a huge ratings drop.
Travis Hunter being out is the big loss for Colorado  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 5:07 pm : link
but they wouldn't be much closer in this game even with him. Maybe it would be 28-7
Put another game on  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 5:09 pm : link
Lol.
35-0 Oregon  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 5:09 pm : link
Bo Nix is untouched as he runs into the end zone
Before the kickoff...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 5:09 pm : link
I would bet there were 7M+ viewer watching...

Now? < 500K.
RE: RE: The mirage known as Colorado...  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16218879 section125 said:
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...has been exposed



Is it a mirage? They actually did win both of their games. Oregon is just a better team.


Their big win was TCU, who is looking very weak as the season rolls on. I think right now Colorado is overrated.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 6:20 pm : link
Depends on how one defines 'overrated'' for Colorado? Before the season, most people had them winning 1 or 2 games. Now of course Oregon, USC, Utah, UCLA, Oregon State, Wazzou-all teams the Buffalo are or will have to face-are better on paper. But if Colorado can get to 6 wins...'Zona, 'Zona State, & Stanford are winnable games...that'd be a helluva accomplishment for Prime.
Overrated is laughable  
kelsto811 : 9/23/2023 6:23 pm : link
Overhyped maybe
RE: Overrated is laughable  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2023 6:33 pm : link
In comment 16218925 kelsto811 said:
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Overhyped maybe

Laughable? So you think they are truly a top 20 team in the country, where they are ranked now? THAT is laughable. They are a cute story but they damn sure aren’t a top 20 team
BBS.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 6:37 pm : link
Colorado has been a fun story, but yeah...the Buffs aren't a top 20, much less 25, program right now. In the future, we'll see. Prime can recruit & people will want to play for him. I think he's going to do very well in Boulder, provided he stays there.
Deion  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 6:42 pm : link
Making sure Shadeur gets his TD. Atta boy. Moral victory!
RE: RE: Overrated is laughable  
kelsto811 : 9/23/2023 6:43 pm : link
In comment 16218930 BigBlueShock said:
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Overhyped maybe


Laughable? So you think they are truly a top 20 team in the country, where they are ranked now? THAT is laughable. They are a cute story but they damn sure aren’t a top 20 team


Well yea being listed as a top 20 team is part of it. A team that won 0 (1?) games the last season, is in the 1st year of a program rebuild, and obviously has inferior talent to the top teams in the country. A lot of ppl on the hype train after 2 games where there was a lot of publicity...but I think it's unfair to say overrated for a team that's already outperformed expectations.
RE: BBS.  
BigBlueShock : 9/23/2023 6:46 pm : link
In comment 16218931 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Colorado has been a fun story, but yeah...the Buffs aren't a top 20, much less 25, program right now. In the future, we'll see. Prime can recruit & people will want to play for him. I think he's going to do very well in Boulder, provided he stays there.

No doubt. I’m sure Prime is going to have top recruits tripping over themselves to play for him as we move along, but they aren’t close to being a top team yet. Their OL is atrocious and the defense is worse than that. People don’t realize how bad of a team Colorado State is and it took everything they had and then some to scrape by them, at home.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 6:59 pm : link
Nervous AF about OSU ND. I like that's in South Bend, but this will be a tough one. And then-regardless of what happens tonight-next week in Durham vs. a damn good Duke team. But yeah, ND plays a 'soft' schedule every year, or so idiots claim.
RE: ...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16218941 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Nervous AF about OSU ND. I like that's in South Bend, but this will be a tough one. And then-regardless of what happens tonight-next week in Durham vs. a damn good Duke team. But yeah, ND plays a 'soft' schedule every year, or so idiots claim.


I'm taking ND because of Hartman. Just can't trust McCord...
bw.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 7:27 pm : link
From your lips to Gods ears. I'm logging out of BBI for this one. I'm throwing some back & don't want to make an ass out of myself.

Go Irish!

Hopefully logging back on in 4 plus hour & celebrating. #crossingfingers
RE: Overrated is laughable  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16218925 kelsto811 said:
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Overhyped maybe


They went into this game #19 in the country, no way they are a top 25 team. Yes, they are overrated.
Ohio Stat by 10 tonight over Notre Dame  
SGMen : 9/23/2023 7:39 pm : link
I also had Washington State winning too.
Some catch by Evans  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 7:56 pm : link
while being held.
Beutal  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 8:00 pm : link
Overturn
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/23/2023 8:01 pm : link
Logged on to state..

Love that Big10 refs are officiating tonight. Screwed ND left & right.
Utah 14 UCLA 7  
Bill in UT : 9/23/2023 8:03 pm : link
I haven't seen UCLA prior to today, but I'd guess they had some pretty lame opponents to come in at 3-0. Utah had a pick-6 on the opening drive, but without Rising, and losing their starting RB in the first half, didn't have a lot of offense. They ran a lot, but only averaged about 3 ypc. The UCLA QB, freshman Moore, had about 4 nice completions in the 4th qtr to come within 7, but that was it. I don't recall a UCLA QB in the past who couldn't run with the ball at all. He was sacked 7 times, didn't try to run when forced out of pocket, and never kept the ball with a fake handoff. The Utah defense didn't even have anyone follow him on those plays when he'd roll out after handing off. The Utes should stay top 20 at 4-0
Texas looks way to good for Baylor  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 8:06 pm : link
this could be a blowout of Dallas proportions
Oregon St QB reverting back to his previous Clemson form  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 8:10 pm : link
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Ohio State lucky with a missed FG  
SGMen : 9/23/2023 8:13 pm : link
Can they finally put a drive together in the 2nd quarter? I had them winning over Notre Dame.

Washington State winning by 14....

My alma mater Rutgers was up 7 - 0 early and then got whooped by a much deeper team in Michigan.
Huge stand on 4th and goal  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 8:25 pm : link
for the Irish defense.
I cannot stand Brian kelly  
Knickstape : 9/23/2023 8:25 pm : link
I do not think he is remotely a good coach
RE: Utah 14 UCLA 7  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 8:44 pm : link
In comment 16218973 Bill in UT said:
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I haven't seen UCLA prior to today, but I'd guess they had some pretty lame opponents to come in at 3-0. Utah had a pick-6 on the opening drive, but without Rising, and losing their starting RB in the first half, didn't have a lot of offense. They ran a lot, but only averaged about 3 ypc. The UCLA QB, freshman Moore, had about 4 nice completions in the 4th qtr to come within 7, but that was it. I don't recall a UCLA QB in the past who couldn't run with the ball at all. He was sacked 7 times, didn't try to run when forced out of pocket, and never kept the ball with a fake handoff. The Utah defense didn't even have anyone follow him on those plays when he'd roll out after handing off. The Utes should stay top 20 at 4-0


Last weekend UCLA hosted North Carolina Central. An HBCU.
ND...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 8:46 pm : link
cannot generate a pass rush.
RE: ND...  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16219002 bw in dc said:
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cannot generate a pass rush.


Nope and it's going to hurt them.
How does that ref  
batman11 : 9/23/2023 8:49 pm : link
not see that pass to OSU Egbuka (sp)hit the ground? He should be sent home at halftime.
Well good night Baylor; Texas 21-3 with 7 minutes to go in the 2nd  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 8:51 pm : link
i guess I'll start watching ND/OSU
ND fortunate to hold...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 8:55 pm : link
OSU to a FG.

ND should have at least 3 points, btw...
Cameron Ward  
santacruzom : 9/23/2023 8:56 pm : link
Is accurate as hell so far this season.
RE: Well good night Baylor; Texas 21-3 with 7 minutes to go in the 2nd  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 8:56 pm : link
In comment 16219005 PatersonPlank said:
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i guess I'll start watching ND/OSU


Check out Oregon St v Wash St...good game...

My guy Cam Ward lighting it up...
RE: RE: Well good night Baylor; Texas 21-3 with 7 minutes to go in the 2nd  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 9:01 pm : link
In comment 16219010 bw in dc said:
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i guess I'll start watching ND/OSU



Check out Oregon St v Wash St...good game...

My guy Cam Ward lighting it up...


Yeah, I've got my YTTV 4 game view going on with UT/Bay; Wash St/OrSU; ND/OSU; WF/GT
RE: ...  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16218972 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Logged on to state..

Love that Big10 refs are officiating tonight. Screwed ND left & right.


You mean that overturn on the Harrison catch where he clearly had a foot down?

Might be the worst overturn I’ve ever seen.
I'm rooting...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:19 pm : link
for ND, but the OL is getting away with a lot of holding...
Does ND...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:20 pm : link
ever play action?
Ohio State...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:21 pm : link
was so offsides there...
RE: Ohio State...  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 9:21 pm : link
In comment 16219028 bw in dc said:
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was so offsides there...


Hartman tried to bounce it on a qb sneak . My lord haha
RE: Does ND...  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 9:22 pm : link
In comment 16219027 bw in dc said:
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ever play action?


With the amount of running they are doing I don't understand why they haven't used it. Need to go deep more often.
Treyveon Henderson 61 yard TD for Ohio St  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 9:24 pm : link
Marvin Harrison Jr got rolled up and it looked nasty
Hopefully it’s only a  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 9:25 pm : link
Sprain for Harrison. Hate injuries
Well...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:25 pm : link
that might be ball game unless ND instantly responds.

Ohio State has too many athletes and they have a clear coaching advantage.
Is ND back  
batman11 : 9/23/2023 9:32 pm : link
Love #12 related to Julian?
Wash St looks really good  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 9:34 pm : link
Oregon State is not a bad team
Oops I missed this thread, it was buried  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 9:36 pm : link
Until i sorted by last post.
Has ND passed at all this drive?  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 9:36 pm : link
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RE: RE: ...  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16219023 JT039 said:
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Logged on to state..

Love that Big10 refs are officiating tonight. Screwed ND left & right.



You mean that overturn on the Harrison catch where he clearly had a foot down?

Might be the worst overturn I’ve ever seen.


Yeah I didn't understand that rule where if the arm goes down first even if one foot touches before that it's incomplete? Wth
RE: Wash St looks really good  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16219043 PatersonPlank said:
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Oregon State is not a bad team


Cam Ward needs to be in the Heisman talk.
RE: Has ND passed at all this drive?  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:38 pm : link
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Yes...earlier for a first down.
RE: Is ND back  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:39 pm : link
In comment 16219039 batman11 said:
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Love #12 related to Julian?


I don't think so...
RE: RE: Wash St looks really good  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 9:39 pm : link
In comment 16219047 bw in dc said:
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Oregon State is not a bad team



Cam Ward needs to be in the Heisman talk.


I know I am an outlier, but I really like Penix
RE: RE: ...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:40 pm : link
In comment 16219023 JT039 said:
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Logged on to state..

Love that Big10 refs are officiating tonight. Screwed ND left & right.



You mean that overturn on the Harrison catch where he clearly had a foot down?

Might be the worst overturn I’ve ever seen.


The crew for NBC said the Big Ten officiating team said Harrison juggled it...
Great to see Harrison Jr. Is ok  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 9:41 pm : link
That looked bad.
Great response by ND!  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 9:42 pm : link
We got ourselves a ball game ladies n gents!
Huge drive...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 9:42 pm : link
by ND. This is a ball game...
ND finally puts some points on the board with a TD  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 9:42 pm : link
Still wish they would have passed the ball more cause Hartman has had time.
Well ND responded, its a game now  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 9:42 pm : link
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Does Cam Ward have the best arm in football  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 9:49 pm : link
Or is it just me? Kid looks like he could be a really good pro qb with his skillset.
Ewers is an interesting study  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:01 pm : link
The guy always looks like he is throwing off balance, yet he is now 225 passes without an INT (a school record I think they said). The guy is ripping Baylor, yet when you watch him it looks like he is just lobbing things around.
RE: Does Cam Ward have the best arm in football  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:01 pm : link
In comment 16219058 NorcalNYG said:
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Or is it just me? Kid looks like he could be a really good pro qb with his skillset.


It's very Lamar Jackson-ish with this throwing motion.
I can't believe I am starting to root for Notre Dame  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:02 pm : link
I must stop this
I don't want to jinx this...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:03 pm : link
but Sam Hartman is playing a wonderful game.

I like a lot of his attributes.
This is some...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:04 pm : link
power football.
Jack Sawyer  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:06 pm : link
Makes Kayvon Thibedaux look like Reggie White.
Those were two...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:07 pm : link
great drives by ND.
The ND left tackle deserves the top 5 pick praise,  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:07 pm : link
He looks outstanding. I bet he'll be a pro bowl to all pro left tackle in the nfl.
ND takes the lead  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:08 pm : link
Let's go D.
RE: The ND left tackle deserves the top 5 pick praise,  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16219079 NorcalNYG said:
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He looks outstanding. I bet he'll be a pro bowl to all pro left tackle in the nfl.


Alt is a player.
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Banks : 9/23/2023 10:11 pm : link
Well notre dame is certainly for real. They just abused osu that whole drive
ND defense is super impressive.  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:12 pm : link
McCord is not impressive.
RE: RE: The ND left tackle deserves the top 5 pick praise,  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16219082 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16219079 NorcalNYG said:


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He looks outstanding. I bet he'll be a pro bowl to all pro left tackle in the nfl.



Alt is a player.


I've been impressed with Spindler, Fisher, and Correll - interior guys...
Al Golden strikes again  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:12 pm : link
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RE: Al Golden strikes again  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16219086 KevinBBWC said:
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Didn't need that blitz...
Terrible D by the ND CB there  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:14 pm : link
easy call
Ryan Day...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:15 pm : link
doing Ryan Day things - getting a RB on a LB.
It didn't cost ND cuz they got a 1st down to the tight end  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:15 pm : link
But they didn't call that against osu on a very similar play
What is OSU doing- 4th and 1 and they go shotgun  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:18 pm : link
then start screwing around. These coaches get to cute sometimes, just QB sneak it
Let's Go Defense  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:19 pm : link
Huge fucking stop on 4th down.
Ohio State most likely lost the game  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:19 pm : link
on that WTF play call
Unbelievable...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:19 pm : link
stand...
I hope OSU loses now - 4th and 1 and they go an end around  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:19 pm : link
horrible call
Wow osu with a Kafka overthinking cutesy playcall!  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:19 pm : link
Crazy!
Why did Day...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:20 pm : link
run wide??
That might have been the dumbest 4th down play  
BH28 : 9/23/2023 10:20 pm : link
Call I've ever seen.
Ryan Day  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:20 pm : link
LMAFO!!

Most overrated cosch in the nation. Just qb sneak you needed 2 inches
.  
Banks : 9/23/2023 10:20 pm : link
What a terrible play
RE: Ryan Day  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16219099 JT039 said:
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LMAFO!!

Most overrated cosch in the nation. Just qb sneak you needed 2 inches


Just about anything but that playcall.
If Day loses to Michigan and PSU  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:21 pm : link
This year - which they will be underdogs - the seat is going to be extremely hot.

4th and inch - let’s run wide lol
What  
batman11 : 9/23/2023 10:22 pm : link
Was that? Trying to be too cute.
Why do offensive coordinators do that?  
nygiants16 : 9/23/2023 10:22 pm : link
you see it more and more, just run it up the gut or qb sneak
.  
Banks : 9/23/2023 10:22 pm : link
I imagine osu fans everywhere are cursing day. That has to be the dumbest call I've seen in a long time
Hardman has great poise and he looks like  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:23 pm : link
He's 30 years old, can we get a birth certificate check? Lol
Hartman looks like a mature, confident guy  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:23 pm : link
I don't think he is great, but he is prototype game manager at this high level
This game is over  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:24 pm : link
Ryan Day is gonna have to answer a lot of questions…
One of Hartman's first mistakes all night.  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:24 pm : link
Definitely should've handed that one off.
Huge play there...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:25 pm : link
big loss by Hartman.

Screw the RPO, keeping pounding the ball inside...
.  
Banks : 9/23/2023 10:26 pm : link
A lot of qbs hanging around for 5th and 6th years. Hartman was the qb of wake forest for a couple years. They are a fun team to watch
RE: Hartman looks like a mature, confident guy  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:26 pm : link
In comment 16219107 PatersonPlank said:
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I don't think he is great, but he is prototype game manager at this high level


He just made a dumbass play there. Just hand it off to the RB and get positive yardage. He has made so many good plays, and that was just stupid to keep it and lose 6 yards.
College Gameday next week  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:26 pm : link
ND vs Duke. At Duke for the first time.
ND with some odd playcalling this drive  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:27 pm : link
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Wow  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:28 pm : link
That could have been disastrous
RE: RE: Hartman looks like a mature, confident guy  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:28 pm : link
In comment 16219112 section125 said:
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In comment 16219107 PatersonPlank said:


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I don't think he is great, but he is prototype game manager at this high level



He just made a dumbass play there. Just hand it off to the RB and get positive yardage. He has made so many good plays, and that was just stupid to keep it and lose 6 yards.


Yep, dumb play for a guy pushing 30
Maybe Williams...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:28 pm : link
will have questions to answer now...
And now day is letting  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:28 pm : link
40 seconds run off. Holy good god!!!
And then he makes a bad  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:29 pm : link
throw on the screen with three lineman in front. Just a piss poor throw there. That was a 20 yard gain..
RE: And now day is letting  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16219120 JT039 said:
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40 seconds run off. Holy good god!!!


Makes no sense.
RE: And then he makes a bad  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16219121 section125 said:
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throw on the screen with three lineman in front. Just a piss poor throw there. That was a 20 yard gain..


It was also a helluva play by Tuimoloau...
ND...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:32 pm : link
needs to tackle well here.
Lol  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:33 pm : link
Day is awful. Another brutal call
JFC....  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:34 pm : link
ND needs a sack.
Finally get some pressure  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:35 pm : link
about time.

Stop them let's go D
OSU coach is killing his team  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:35 pm : link
worse cast right now they should be setting up for the game winning FG
RE: OSU coach is killing his team  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:36 pm : link
In comment 16219129 PatersonPlank said:
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worse cast right now they should be setting up for the game winning FG


He's breaking in a QB in Day's defense.
That's intentional grounding...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:40 pm : link
for sure.
Lol Day  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:41 pm : link
Letting 40 seconds run off looks smart now lol
ND...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:41 pm : link
should drop back in zone and tackle underneath.
WTF Golden  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:42 pm : link
why only 3 rushers
Run a jet sweep  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:42 pm : link
Here
Not  
AcidTest : 9/23/2023 10:43 pm : link
sure why you only rush three in that situation.
Classic example of  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:43 pm : link
not rushing the passer on 3rd and 19. Golden may have blown the game.
Great  
AcidTest : 9/23/2023 10:44 pm : link
game.
Horrible loss  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:44 pm : link
I fucking hate Golden.
TD Ohio State  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
They run it in on the last play. They probably need to replay it to make sure the runner wasn't down but it looked like he made it
Al Golden blew that  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
game.
Day...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
with some brass balls there.
Wow  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
Day finally made the right call
He JUST got it across  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
that was a lot closer than it looked
Kyle McCord is a loser.  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:45 pm : link
That's all I gotta say. He will not be a good nfl qb.
Wow  
PatersonPlank : 9/23/2023 10:46 pm : link
what a finish. ND has no one to blame, OSU made a lot of stupid calls
That was a great football...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:46 pm : link
game. Both teams played their asses off...
It's not "brass balls"  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:48 pm : link
in that situation to run it because there's only 3 seconds left and one play to go, so you run your best goal line play regardless of whether it's a run or pass
That third down...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:48 pm : link
throw/completion was the game. Incredible play by OSU.
RE: Day...  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:49 pm : link
In comment 16219143 bw in dc said:
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with some brass balls there.


Balls? A run was the only call to be made there. It was the last play of the game so you have to run from the 1.

Golden is an idiot. Should have sent 5 on that 3rd and 19.
.  
Banks : 9/23/2023 10:49 pm : link
best game of the early season
Rushing 3 was such a stupid panzy move,  
NorcalNYG : 9/23/2023 10:50 pm : link
McCord was crumbling under pressure all night n u rush 3?
Omg  
JT039 : 9/23/2023 10:51 pm : link
He kicked it out of bounds
RE: RE: Day...  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 10:52 pm : link
In comment 16219152 section125 said:
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In comment 16219143 bw in dc said:


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with some brass balls there.



Balls? A run was the only call to be made there. It was the last play of the game so you have to run from the 1.

Golden is an idiot. Should have sent 5 on that 3rd and 19.


If you pass, you know you are throwing the ball into the endzone.

By running, the ball is handed off four yards behind the LOS.

That's a big difference to me. Thus, balls...
Irish coaching staff lost that game with mind numbing conservative  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 10:53 pm : link
play calls.
Hated the offensive game plan  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 10:53 pm : link
Should have passed more all game with the protection the OL was giving. Felt like a typical Brian Kelly game.

Al Golden better not be the DC next year.
RE: Rushing 3 was such a stupid panzy move,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16219154 NorcalNYG said:
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McCord was crumbling under pressure all night n u rush 3?


Al Golden was gonna strike sooner or later. He’s a loser.
With McCord at QB the best play call at the goal line is a run  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:54 pm : link
if it's one play to win or lose
RE: RE: RE: Day...  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16219156 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16219152 section125 said:


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In comment 16219143 bw in dc said:


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with some brass balls there.



Balls? A run was the only call to be made there. It was the last play of the game so you have to run from the 1.

Golden is an idiot. Should have sent 5 on that 3rd and 19.



If you pass, you know you are throwing the ball into the endzone.

By running, the ball is handed off four yards behind the LOS.

That's a big difference to me. Thus, balls...


It is a 1 yard run against a prevent defense. You run.
RE: Hated the offensive game plan  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16219158 KevinBBWC said:
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Should have passed more all game with the protection the OL was giving. Felt like a typical Brian Kelly game.

Al Golden better not be the DC next year.


Their final possessions of both halves were pure loser shit. Trust Sam Hartman to make plays, but also good decisions in those spots. WHAT THE FUCK is the point of having him otherwise??? Those are decisions you make when Tyler Buchner is playing QB.
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Banks : 9/23/2023 10:56 pm : link
lol @minnesota. Trying to blow this game
Day with the ranting lunatic post-game  
shyster : 9/23/2023 10:56 pm : link
on-field interview. Had the chance to play it classy, keep the high ground.

Nah.
Still scratching my head  
jestersdead : 9/23/2023 10:57 pm : link
As to why ND threw the ball on their last drive. You run the ball 3 times, burn some clock and force OSU to use their timeouts.

Dropped INT and an OSU false start, that would have been a 10 second run off but wasn’t b/c OSU has a timeout left.

Unreal
RE: Irish coaching staff lost that game with mind numbing conservative  
section125 : 9/23/2023 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16219157 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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play calls.


Actually the QB lost the game missing the screen pass. It was at least a 20 yard gain if he doesn't throw it into the only OSU defender within 10 yards. How do you not see the guy standing there?

Want to blame the DC for the 3 man rush on 3rd and 19, fine.
The riskier play for Ohio State with 3 seconds left at the 1 yard line  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 10:59 pm : link
is dropping an inexperienced McCord back against a blitz and him having to make a split-second decision that wins or loses the game. Ohio State ran I think 3 passes with a yard to go in this game and failed all 3 times
ND had ten players on the field for last play  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 11:03 pm : link
SMH.
Apparently it was the last two plays  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 11:04 pm : link
they had ten.
.  
Banks : 9/23/2023 11:04 pm : link
i have minny in a parlay. They just let northwestern of all teams march down the field for a chance tie or win. All cause a dummy on special teams sat in the end zone and let the ball bounce to him. He could have downed it on the 5yd to the 1 without effort
Ohio St had a 4th and goal from the 1 earlier in the game  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 11:07 pm : link
where McCord panicked and failed to make the play

They tried the pass with 7 seconds left because they knew they had the run in their back pocket if the pass was incomplete, which it was.

So McCord failed twice to pass it in from the 1. The only logical play with 3 seconds left was a run
NOTRE DAME ONLY HAD TEN MEN ON THE FIELD  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 11:07 pm : link
ON THE FINAL TWO PLAYS OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!


Inexcusable
RE: ND had ten players on the field for last play  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 11:08 pm : link
In comment 16219172 KevinBBWC said:
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SMH.


I just went back and looked at it. Its true.

Simply inexcusable. Thats why there was no one on the left side of the alignment and the run was easy.
At the start of the final drive  
emcca005 : 9/23/2023 11:10 pm : link
I text my brother and said this is USC 2005.

Green uniforms
4th down conversion
Rushing TD from the 1 on the final play
RE: Still scratching my head  
dpinzow : 9/23/2023 11:13 pm : link
In comment 16219166 jestersdead said:
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As to why ND threw the ball on their last drive. You run the ball 3 times, burn some clock and force OSU to use their timeouts.

Dropped INT and an OSU false start, that would have been a 10 second run off but wasn’t b/c OSU has a timeout left.

Unreal


Definitely agree on that. Someone on ND's coaching staff panicked when it was 2nd and 15. Make sure Ohio St has no timeouts and force McCord to win the game without stopping the clock
RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 11:13 pm : link
In comment 16219173 KevinBBWC said:
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they had ten.


Is that confirmed?
RE: NOTRE DAME ONLY HAD TEN MEN ON THE FIELD  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16219176 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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ON THE FINAL TWO PLAYS OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!


Inexcusable


Insane.
RE: RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
You'reMyBoyBlue!! : 9/23/2023 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16219180 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16219173 KevinBBWC said:


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they had ten.



Is that confirmed?


Yes. Unbelievable
RE: RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
KevinBBWC : 9/23/2023 11:27 pm : link
In comment 16219180 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16219173 KevinBBWC said:


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they had ten.



Is that confirmed?

Ten men - ( New Window )
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Banks : 9/23/2023 11:27 pm : link
f you minny. I had one leg left for $900. frickin DK never seems to let me cash out this year
RE: RE: RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
bw in dc : 9/23/2023 11:28 pm : link
In comment 16219184 KevinBBWC said:
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Is that confirmed?

Ten men - ( New Window )


That's a fire-able offense.
Only positives.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/23/2023 11:35 pm : link
Benji Morrison is the fucking man.

A LOT of freshmen on offense looked like players.

I truly hope the Irish win next week because this ten men on the field shit is gonna be a difficult stink to wash off.
RE: .  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 12:30 am : link
In comment 16219185 Banks said:
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f you minny. I had one leg left for $900. frickin DK never seems to let me cash out this year


Rough how much did u lose and how many legs did u have?
RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
bw in dc : 9/24/2023 12:35 am : link
In comment 16219173 KevinBBWC said:
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they had ten.


In his press conference, Williams said he noticed the missing defender on the last play but didn't want to take a penalty with no timeouts left.

But why not take a penalty? The ball is at the one. Run two players out there for illegal substitution or have a player jump offsides. The penalty is half the distance to the goal line, which is a half yard. BFD.

I have a feeling this is just smoke to cover for his staff...

RE: RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 12:36 am : link
In comment 16219202 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16219173 KevinBBWC said:


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they had ten.



In his press conference, Williams said he noticed the missing defender on the last play but didn't want to take a penalty with no timeouts left.

But why not take a penalty? The ball is at the one. Run two players out there for illegal substitution or have a player jump offsides. The penalty is half the distance to the goal line, which is a half yard. BFD.

I have a feeling this is just smoke to cover for his staff...


Yeah that one is on the guys upstairs imo
I don't know if anyone is watching but the 32 year old ASU  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 1:01 am : link
Coach has his team really fighting against USC and their utility running back Scadeboo is doing it all like a jack of all trades. I'm impressed with the coach and Scadeboo. Both appear to have nfl potential, a guy like that who can rally a team without appearing condescending could be good in the nfl.
24-21 Usc winning in a good game  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 1:02 am : link
With 9:25 left in the 3rd. I'm sure most of yall east coasters are asleep. But I'm really impressed with Scadeboo and the asu coach.
And of course,  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 1:06 am : link
Caleb Williams really is a once in a decade prospect. He makes throws I don't think any qb in the NFL besides Mahomes could make. He will undoubtedly be a top qb.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 1:07 am : link
Still waiting for Marcus Freeman to prove he was a good hire.
RE: RE: ND had ten players on the field for last play  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 1:24 am : link
In comment 16219177 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 16219172 KevinBBWC said:


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SMH.



I just went back and looked at it. Its true.

Simply inexcusable. Thats why there was no one on the left side of the alignment and the run was easy.


Marcus Freeman leaves a lot to be desired.
RE: …  
MookGiants : 9/24/2023 1:26 am : link
In comment 16219211 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still waiting for Marcus Freeman to prove he was a good hire.


He's in his 2nd year as a head coach, after some early hiccups last year the team played very well with a mac level quarterback the entire season.

He's doing a good job. The 10 men on the field sucks but one situation doesn't change that he is a good hire. If anyone can make this program into a title contender its him. Kelly left him with one of the worst QB situations of any power 5 program last year. He left him with awful receivers too.

Oh  
MookGiants : 9/24/2023 1:30 am : link
and Ryan Day had quite possibly the most disgraceful postgame interview on the field I've ever seen. Ryan Day couldn't wipe Lou Holtz ass on his best day. Ryan Day has been the architect of some epic collapses in big games. He's yet to win anything noteworthy at Ohio State. They choked away games against Clemson and Georgia in the playoff recently. And he has gotten his ass kicked by Jim Harbaugh two years in a row now.

Acting like they were disrespected and basically no one believed in them. THey were 3 point favorites and ranked #6 in the country. Fucking clown.

Urban Meyer was a world class scumbag but a great coach. Day is a world class douche bag but doesn't have the resume as a coach Meyer does.

He has every built in advantage at the school he's at and he goes out and acts that way on the field after the game? It's been a long time since I've seen a winning coach act that way after a game.

He's not a pimple on Lou Holtz ass.
Scattebo! 28-35 usc  
NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 1:48 am : link
And yeah fuck Ryan day, he's an egotistical fool. Has incredibly talented teams and never raises their level of performance, he just acts like he's so great when in reality he just has great players and is a mediocre coach.
RE: RE: Apparently it was the last two plays  
shyster : 9/24/2023 3:16 am : link
In comment 16219202 bw in dc said:
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In his press conference, Williams said he noticed the missing defender on the last play but didn't want to take a penalty with no timeouts left.

But why not take a penalty? The ball is at the one. Run two players out there for illegal substitution or have a player jump offsides. The penalty is half the distance to the goal line, which is a half yard. BFD.

I have a feeling this is just smoke to cover for his staff...


Doesn't wash. Thirty-six seconds of real time elapsed between the end of the second down play and the snap for the third down play.

The entire OSU offense was in relaxed mode turned away from the line of scrimmage looking to the sidelines for the third down play call. An ND player would have had plenty of time to sprint into position without danger of OSU snapping the ball.

And OSU's winning play call that was signaled in was clearly designed to take advantage of the absence of the RDE.

ND coaches know they're missing a guy and not only don't send a guy in, but also don't attempt to signal one of the ND players standing off the line to move up to the line to fill the hole? They stay in the exact same formation?

And of course ND had eleven players on the field until they called a timeout after the spike. Then only ten returned to the field. It should be somebody's job on the sidelines to count the players going back out. That's not on the staff upstairs.

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RE: …  
section125 : 9/24/2023 7:18 am : link
In comment 16219211 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Still waiting for Marcus Freeman to prove he was a good hire.


I will disagree. ND played a great game until the last 30 seconds. They are a far better team then there last year. They lost to the #6 team on the last play of a tight game. They were pushing OSU's defense backward most of the 4th quarter. I think Freeman is building a sustainable program.

Coaches effed up the last few plays on both sides of the ball, yes. Hardman missed on the screen pass. What it comes down to is ND will be able to play anyone in the NCAA straight up and not be over matched.

Tough loss for ND.  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/24/2023 7:35 am : link
Played really hard and it was great seeing that environment and all the green. They have a very nice OL and running game. Questionable calls at the end.

Agree, that was really poor of Day going after Coach Holtz. I'd like to see this game continue but not sure how long it is scheduled for.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 7:51 am : link
Mook/section…in the morning light, you two are correct big picture wise. I was/still am super frustrated about the ending.

Onward to Durham. I might try to snag tixs to that game with a buddy.
In that ND game last night  
JT039 : 9/24/2023 9:46 am : link
Those players really have it everything all game. It was such a clean game too.

The coaching however, some of the worst I’ve ever seen. The last 4 minutes it was who could screw up more. Sorry Irish fans but those first and second down play calls and only having 10 guys on the field was just a dagger. Throw I a. Soft zone on 3rd and 19.
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JT039 : 9/24/2023 9:47 am : link
And fuck Ryan Day. Hope Penn state and Michigan (again) pushes his shit in.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 9:59 am : link
I didn't see the Day stuff live-I just flipped off the TV & angrily stormed to bed after the final play-but caught it this morning...

My man, you were 3 point favorites. Stop acting like no one in the world gave the Buckeyes a shot to win. I hope Michigan destroys them Thanksgiving weekend.
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BigBlueShock : 9/24/2023 10:14 am : link
In comment 16219299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I didn't see the Day stuff live-I just flipped off the TV & angrily stormed to bed after the final play-but caught it this morning...

My man, you were 3 point favorites. Stop acting like no one in the world gave the Buckeyes a shot to win. I hope Michigan destroys them Thanksgiving weekend.

It’s always precious when a coach from a top 5 team that gets any players he wants pulls out the ole underdog card. It’s embarrassing. At least wait until your sorry ass gets shit canned after this season and you end up at Northeastern. Or Temple. You’ll find out real quick how absurd your underdog rants actually were
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Costy16 : 9/24/2023 11:46 am : link
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Mook/section…in the morning light, you two are correct big picture wise. I was/still am super frustrated about the ending.

Onward to Durham. I might try to snag tixs to that game with a buddy.


I grabbed tix after the Clemson game. Notre Dame’s response next week will be very telling. Big game now, Gameday going to Durham for football for the first time ever. There will be a ton of ND fans there, there was in 2019.
ND I thought was the better team  
dpinzow : 9/24/2023 11:51 am : link
they pushed around Ohio St in the 2nd half. The defense on 3rd and 19 was inexplicable, and apparently only having 10 men on the field for the final play was also inexplicable. They are on the right track to be national championship contenders though, provided they find a QB next season because Hartman is only a one year solution
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dpinzow : 9/24/2023 11:53 am : link
Don't know whether it was actually Hartman or the play calling not focusing on him, but Hartman didn't play close to his best last night. That's why I think ND relied on the running game, but they were a little too conservative with Hartman, especially in the 1st half
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 12:12 pm : link
Early line is ND -6.5.

ND is more talented, but huge variable is how ND responds off a tough loss. We will see.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/24/2023 12:13 pm : link
Hartman has had better games.
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bw in dc : 9/24/2023 12:20 pm : link
In comment 16219299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I didn't see the Day stuff live-I just flipped off the TV & angrily stormed to bed after the final play-but caught it this morning...

My man, you were 3 point favorites. Stop acting like no one in the world gave the Buckeyes a shot to win. I hope Michigan destroys them Thanksgiving weekend.


In Day's defense, he was breaking in a brand new QB, who hasn't been overly impressive thus far, playing his first big game ever for the Buckeyes. And on the road against a premier program.

If anything, I imagine Day was relieved that McCord stepped up and made a few huge plays with so many question marks surrounding his ability.
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NorcalNYG : 9/24/2023 12:57 pm : link
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I didn't see the Day stuff live-I just flipped off the TV & angrily stormed to bed after the final play-but caught it this morning...

My man, you were 3 point favorites. Stop acting like no one in the world gave the Buckeyes a shot to win. I hope Michigan destroys them Thanksgiving weekend.



In Day's defense, he was breaking in a brand new QB, who hasn't been overly impressive thus far, playing his first big game ever for the Buckeyes. And on the road against a premier program.

If anything, I imagine Day was relieved that McCord stepped up and made a few huge plays with so many question marks surrounding his ability.


That's true, McCord is super underwhelming. He won't be a good nfl qb
RE: I also thought that Hartman underwhelmed a little bit  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/24/2023 3:51 pm : link
In comment 16219385 dpinzow said:
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Don't know whether it was actually Hartman or the play calling not focusing on him, but Hartman didn't play close to his best last night. That's why I think ND relied on the running game, but they were a little too conservative with Hartman, especially in the 1st half


Both of the 4th down non conversions were his fault. He rushed a third down pass that killed another drive in Buckeyes territory. He looked like the moment was a little too big for him at times. That being said, I thought the play calling was way too conservative. There’s no point in having Sam Hartman, then calling the game like we still have Drew Pyne or Tyler Buchner.
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MookGiants : 9/24/2023 11:25 pm : link
I'm still fricking crushed by that loss. I've seen some absolutely horrendous losses in person by my sports teams but that one would be in the top 3. It feels worse than the bush push game and I was at that one too.
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bw in dc : 9/24/2023 11:39 pm : link
In comment 16219664 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Both of the 4th down non conversions were his fault. He rushed a third down pass that killed another drive in Buckeyes territory. He looked like the moment was a little too big for him at times. That being said, I thought the play calling was way too conservative. There’s no point in having Sam Hartman, then calling the game like we still have Drew Pyne or Tyler Buchner.


Based on the cadence of the game, Hartman did his job. He rallied the team from being down 10-0.

ND lost because their D couldn't execute when it mattered most. The 3rd and 19 and only having ten men on the field the last two downs will go down in ND infamy.
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section125 : 9/25/2023 5:49 am : link
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Both of the 4th down non conversions were his fault. He rushed a third down pass that killed another drive in Buckeyes territory. He looked like the moment was a little too big for him at times. That being said, I thought the play calling was way too conservative. There’s no point in having Sam Hartman, then calling the game like we still have Drew Pyne or Tyler Buchner.



Based on the cadence of the game, Hartman did his job. He rallied the team from being down 10-0.

ND lost because their D couldn't execute when it mattered most. The 3rd and 19 and only having ten men on the field the last two downs will go down in ND infamy.


Hartman had a wide open RB on the screen with three linemen in position and no OSU defenders downfield on that side and he managed to not get the ball past the only OSU guy there. So he can not be absolved. That play was setup perfectly.

But yes Golden flat out blew that defensive sequence. Horrible execution after a near flawless game.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/25/2023 6:10 am : link
section, that's a TD if the play's executed properly.

Ugh. Gotta move get ready for Duke, which will be a tough game in its own right.
ND lost that game like 3 times  
bigbluehoya : 9/25/2023 7:54 am : link
Their offensive play-calling on their last set of downs when they were up 4 with 2:30 left was ponderous.

Pretty sure OSU had one timeout at this point.

Estime was running the ball down OSUs throats at that point.

On 1st down they lose 5 on that stupid mis-direction run 4-5 yards behind the LOS.

On 2nd down they stop the clock with an incomplete pass.


That was the first death.

The dropped INT was the second.

And then the final defensive stand, between the 10 men and the goal line alignment.

The only rooting interest I had in the game was under the total, which was well in hand, but that was tough to watch even just as someone who generally prefers ND to OSU.
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shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/25/2023 11:03 am : link
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Both of the 4th down non conversions were his fault. He rushed a third down pass that killed another drive in Buckeyes territory. He looked like the moment was a little too big for him at times. That being said, I thought the play calling was way too conservative. There’s no point in having Sam Hartman, then calling the game like we still have Drew Pyne or Tyler Buchner.



Based on the cadence of the game, Hartman did his job. He rallied the team from being down 10-0.

ND lost because their D couldn't execute when it mattered most. The 3rd and 19 and only having ten men on the field the last two downs will go down in ND infamy.



They were down 10-0 because Hartman failed to convert two fourth down attempts in Buckeyes territory. He also threw a pair of bad passes (although pressure was clearly an issue on one of them) that stalled another drive in Buckeyes territory which led to the missed FG.

I’m not blaming him for the loss. I’m just stating the obvious, which is that he wasn’t great, especially in some some do or die moments. The first failed fourth down attempt was entirely his fault. He sees the marker. He has to sell out, but he didn’t.

The seminal moment of the game was obviously the 3rd & 19. Al Golden rushed three like the loser he is and a guy who was struggling when pressured had all day to find an open receiver in 8 man coverage.

Anyway, I’d be genuinely shocked if they lost to Duke.
Ohio State alum coming in peace  
Kyle in NY : 9/25/2023 11:45 am : link
That was a classic game, one that I feel like the Buckeyes sort of stole. Given the talent on OSU, it still just doesn't feel like a fully functioning operation. So I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit concerned moving forward with some tough games coming up. But some credit is due to a greatly improved ND program. It's a legitimate top 10 win on the road. 10 players on the field is inexcusable. But big picture, Freeman is absolutely building in the right direction.

Ryan Day vs Lou Holtz is very silly. But I think it was just an accumulation of a lot of outside chatter that continues to take shots at this team that is 49-6 under Day and in the playoffs 3 times with a national title appearance. Some people (including some Buckeyes fans) act like this team isa 7 or 8 win team every year. So I can understand some pent up frustration coming out. Buckeye fans loved it. Opposing fans thought it's obnoxious. I get it. That said, he needs to fix up his decision making really quickly. Completely botched the clock management on the last ND drive, the short yardage playcalling is a nightmare, and the fixation with proving how physical we are instead of just letting it fly to the best receiving group in the country will cost us if it doesn't get fixed.

Go Bucks
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bw in dc : 9/25/2023 12:53 pm : link
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Hartman had a wide open RB on the screen with three linemen in position and no OSU defenders downfield on that side and he managed to not get the ball past the only OSU guy there. So he can not be absolved. That play was setup perfectly.

But yes Golden flat out blew that defensive sequence. Horrible execution after a near flawless game.


I said this the other day, but I gave Tuimoloau a lot of credit for breaking up that screen. I thought that was a helluva a play by that kid. He was a five-star recruit who was considered one of the top 5-10 players in the country coming out of high school. Sometimes you have to tip your hat to the other side just making the better play...

On that last drive, OSU also executed a 4th and 7 before the 3rd and 19.

I understand criticizing specific plays by Hartman, btw. But considering how well ND ran the ball, I was perplexed why Parker didn't dial up more play-action. I think that would have created a few more needed splash plays...
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