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Anonymous 49ers Trash Talk Daniel Jones

GiantGrit : 9/23/2023 11:39 am
Per Dan Benton at Giants Wire. Pretty wild to see guys say this publicly.

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Although Jones was the least of the Giants’ concerns on the night, he wasn’t able to beat the 49ers singlehandedly. And for Danny Dimes, that’s really all it takes to stir people up.

Not only did Jones catch heat on social media and from national talking heads, he also caught a few unprovoked shots from anonymous members of the 49ers.

“The dude did not want to throw the ball,” one unnamed 49ers defender told Mike Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle. “Early on, you could tell it wasn’t gonna happen. Everything was a checkdown. At that point, we knew what time it was.”

Nothing screams “brave” like insulting another man through the comfort of anonymity.

Other anonymous 49ers also chimed in. One called Jones’ salary “unbelievable.” A second yelled out from the shadows, “That’s a travesty, man.” A third said Jones’ contract was “ridiculous.”

All four were too scared to stand by their opinion publicly, which really calls into question how strongly they believe the words that are falling off their tongues.

But some 49ers were brave enough to put their name out there. They showed far more guts than their teammates.

“A lot of people who make all that money don’t even deserve it. I think they took a chance (when they paid him). I mean, he’s not bad. And if you ain’t got nothing better,” 49ers linebacker Dre Greenlaw said.

“Forty million dollars a year is a lot of money,” Niners cornerback Charvarius (Mooney) Ward said.

Notice how toned down those criticisms are compared to those who shared their hot takes anonymously?

Either way, it’s considered taboo in the NFL to speak on another player’s salary. It’s a locker-room no-no and violating the league’s unwritten rules is looked down upon. Doing it all anonymously is viewed in an even more negative light and warrants no respect.
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Quickly becoming…  
Chris in Philly : 9/23/2023 11:41 am : link
the most despicable team in the league. Cheap shot artists and cowardly with the press. I hope a meteor strikes when they play the eagles next.
he's a white player  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:41 am : link
you think that makes a difference?
Put Daniel Jones on the 49ers  
90.Cal : 9/23/2023 11:41 am : link
And they would beat the crap out of Dallas, Philly and anyone that come out the AFC… lets see just hoe far Brock can take them… looks like Sam Darnold can lead that team all he has to do is hand the ball off and throe screens
Jones has been responsible for winning games  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:42 am : link
You think Greenlaw or Mooney could say the same. F' them.
RE: he's a white player  
90.Cal : 9/23/2023 11:44 am : link
In comment 16218526 bc4life said:
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you think that makes a difference?


No… don't be a retard.

Its just easy to roll with the media driven narrative that DJ has gotten since he entered the league… over drafted… then a bust/turnover machine… then over paid… DJ wont get any respect until he wins this division at the bare minimum.
90 cal  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:45 am : link
retard?
The post implied that's why they felt more comfortable criticizing him. GFY
I am sorry… retard was strong  
90.Cal : 9/23/2023 11:46 am : link
But what you said is ridiculous regarding “..he’s a white player…”
Oh come on now  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 11:47 am : link
you had Jimmy G's contract. It probably still is affecting the team.
RE: 90 cal  
90.Cal : 9/23/2023 11:47 am : link
In comment 16218535 bc4life said:
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retard?
The post implied that's why they felt more comfortable criticizing him. GFY


Which is just a really weird assumption. Really weird you went there, no?
What I meant was that  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:48 am : link
Was one of the reasons why the players were quicker to criticize him openly was because he was white. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe not.

Regardless, -it's a dick move re: who the players involved are.
Weird  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:49 am : link
Not so sure about that. At any rate, nothing to keep going back and forth about.
They won't win it all with Purdy.  
SirLoinOfBeef : 9/23/2023 11:51 am : link
Lynch is as good as Elway when it comes to finding QBs...
RE: What I meant was that  
JonA1979 : 9/23/2023 11:53 am : link
In comment 16218543 bc4life said:
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Was one of the reasons why the players were quicker to criticize him openly was because he was white. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe not.

Regardless, -it's a dick move re: who the players involved are.


I'd guess yes, until I hear players talk about Watson's contract.
Why won't tehy win it all with Purdy  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:54 am : link
Plays within himself and they're having a good result.

Importantly, Shannahan says that Purdy's decision making one of his best attributes.
JonA  
bc4life : 9/23/2023 11:55 am : link
I'm not painting all players with that brush. And, I could be wrong.
RE: Put Daniel Jones on the 49ers  
Optimus-NY : 9/23/2023 12:00 pm : link
In comment 16218529 90.Cal said:
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And they would beat the crap out of Dallas, Philly and anyone that come out the AFC… lets see just hoe far Brock can take them… looks like Sam Darnold can lead that team all he has to do is hand the ball off and throe screens


Exactly
they’re  
The Jake : 9/23/2023 12:06 pm : link
not wrong…
Only a true piece of shit  
djm : 9/23/2023 12:08 pm : link
Questions a person’s salary, publicly. Only the biggest shit stained coward does so behind a mask.

What a shock yet another overrated and overpaid NYG who is still better than more than half of what the league has to offer.

Anonymous means pay this shit no mind. People should be well prepared to ignore this kind of shit by now but sadly they aren’t. Lap it up.
Jones is 1-11 in prime time  
Sean : 9/23/2023 12:09 pm : link
Every time the Giants go against big time teams they get smoked. What do you expect? The contract surprised a lot of people.

If Jones were on another team we'd all likely be saying the same thing. Just look at how some on this board view Burrow and Herbert.

It's never, "well what about the OL?" "What about the offensive weapons?" Jones needs to start carrying the team and beating the top tier teams for the narrative to change.

With all that said all those quotes are tremendously weak.
RE: Only a true piece of shit  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16218568 djm said:
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Questions a person’s salary, publicly. Only the biggest shit stained coward does so behind a mask.

What a shock yet another overrated and overpaid NYG who is still better than more than half of what the league has to offer.

Anonymous means pay this shit no mind. People should be well prepared to ignore this kind of shit by now but sadly they aren’t. Lap it up.


It's why I think this is fake news, who knows what BS sports journalist make up nowadays for clicks.
RE: he's a white player  
Sean : 9/23/2023 12:11 pm : link
In comment 16218526 bc4life said:
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you think that makes a difference?

Are any players questioning the Burrow or Herbert contracts because they are white? Give me a break.
RE: RE: Only a true piece of shit  
Chris in Philly : 9/23/2023 12:14 pm : link
In comment 16218570 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 16218568 djm said:


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Questions a person’s salary, publicly. Only the biggest shit stained coward does so behind a mask.

What a shock yet another overrated and overpaid NYG who is still better than more than half of what the league has to offer.

Anonymous means pay this shit no mind. People should be well prepared to ignore this kind of shit by now but sadly they aren’t. Lap it up.



It's why I think this is fake news, who knows what BS sports journalist make up nowadays for clicks.


This is fair. It is Benton after all. Could well be total BS.
RE: RE: RE: Only a true piece of shit  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 12:16 pm : link
In comment 16218577 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 16218570 Spiciest Memelord said:


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In comment 16218568 djm said:


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Questions a person’s salary, publicly. Only the biggest shit stained coward does so behind a mask.

What a shock yet another overrated and overpaid NYG who is still better than more than half of what the league has to offer.

Anonymous means pay this shit no mind. People should be well prepared to ignore this kind of shit by now but sadly they aren’t. Lap it up.



It's why I think this is fake news, who knows what BS sports journalist make up nowadays for clicks.



This is fair. It is Benton after all. Could well be total BS.


Only fans and media care about player contracts, other players don't give a crap.
RE: Jones is 1-11 in prime time  
GiantGrit : 9/23/2023 12:17 pm : link
In comment 16218569 Sean said:
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Every time the Giants go against big time teams they get smoked. What do you expect? The contract surprised a lot of people.

If Jones were on another team we'd all likely be saying the same thing. Just look at how some on this board view Burrow and Herbert.

It's never, "well what about the OL?" "What about the offensive weapons?" Jones needs to start carrying the team and beating the top tier teams for the narrative to change.

With all that said all those quotes are tremendously weak.


They either couldn't run the ball or didn't commit to it, they couldn't pass protect, and SF went man up totally locking down the Giants WR's. They have elite speed at LB so he couldn't even escape past the LOS.

With all of that said, please tell me a logical path of how Jones was supposed to carry the team.
Absolutely amazed by some Giant fans. It’s really pathetic  
map7711 : 9/23/2023 12:24 pm : link
A heated long term rival w a ton of battles over decades calls out our QB. And what do some “Giant” fans do? Not fight and say FU they say they agree. It’s one thing to talk about wether u like DJ or not to other Giant fans but when the F-ing 49ers say something- F them.
RE: Absolutely amazed by some Giant fans. It’s really pathetic  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 12:30 pm : link
In comment 16218587 map7711 said:
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A heated long term rival w a ton of battles over decades calls out our QB. And what do some “Giant” fans do? Not fight and say FU they say they agree. It’s one thing to talk about wether u like DJ or not to other Giant fans but when the F-ing 49ers say something- F them.


Some on bbi are as bad as anyone in the media. And another reason I think this is fake news, it really doesn't seem like something a SF player would say. Dallas sure.
RE: Jones is 1-11 in prime time  
Bill in UT : 9/23/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16218569 Sean said:
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Every time the Giants go against big time teams they get smoked.


Pretty sure the Giants would be about 1-11 against those same teams if the games were played on Sunday afternoons on local TV
Anonymous  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/23/2023 12:33 pm : link

pussies is more like it
RE: he's a white player  
Bear vs Shark : 9/23/2023 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16218526 bc4life said:
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you think that makes a difference?
Lol are you a fucking idiot? Perpetually aggrieved
As for DJ  
Bear vs Shark : 9/23/2023 12:37 pm : link
It seems so fucking weird to me that NOW is when people are shitting on DJ, or his contract. First off, his contract isn't bad at all for a starting QB. Second off, from my eyeball test (which admittedly means nothing to anyone but me), he looks BETTER this year with a terrible team around him than he has in the past. Previously, it seemed he couldn't elevate those around him. Now, it seems like he's elevating them but can't do it enough to overcome the talent differentials.

Fuck the Niners
And I say that all  
Bear vs Shark : 9/23/2023 12:37 pm : link
as someone who historically has not been much of a DJ fan and wanted to move off him a couple years ago. But credit is deserved for his improvement.
The way to shut people up is to kick their ass.  
Giant John : 9/23/2023 12:39 pm : link
We didn’t come close. Winners talk, losers walk.
I find these comments and this entire thread interesting  
arniefez : 9/23/2023 12:40 pm : link
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“The dude did not want to throw the ball,” one unnamed 49ers defender told Mike Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle. “Early on, you could tell it wasn’t gonna happen. Everything was a checkdown.


I think that's 100% accurate. Top QBs complete passes against pass defenses. Daniel Jones doesn't throw the ball down field against passing defenses very often. Anyone want to dispute that?

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I think they took a chance (when they paid him). I mean, he’s not bad. And if you ain’t got nothing better,” 49ers linebacker Dre Greenlaw said.


I think that's 100% accurate too. I think that's pretty much how the national media and every NFL fan, except Giant fans, look at Daniel Jones. It's up to him to live up to the contract.

No question in my mind though that a lot of the opposing player comments come from financial jealousy. Daniel Jones is an easy target, Duke QB drafted way higher than the national consensus and his won/loss record combined with his stats do not add up to his contract for anyone that isn't a Giant fan.
RE: Absolutely amazed by some Giant fans. It’s really pathetic  
The Jake : 9/23/2023 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16218587 map7711 said:
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A heated long term rival w a ton of battles over decades calls out our QB. And what do some “Giant” fans do? Not fight and say FU they say they agree. It’s one thing to talk about wether u like DJ or not to other Giant fans but when the F-ing 49ers say something- F them.


that is certainly one way to look at it.

another way is that these 49ers players - assuming these are legit quotes - are now saying the same thing that many Giants fans have said for years about Daniel Jones. our front office - together with some stubborn sycophants on this board - are the ones who can’t see the truth, even though they watch the same games we do and can see the same stats we do.

when opposing teams’ players speak the truth - our QB isn’t good - you should sit up and listen. not retreat back into your DJFC cocoon.

the guy doesn’t throw TD passes. he creates opportunities with his legs. he occasionally flashes, but has terrible pocket presence. he can’t make throws downfield with pressure in his face. when he’s flushed out of the pocket he can create opportunities, but often gets hit hard or awkwardly enough that we all hold our breath. this is not the kind of QB that wins Super Bowls.

truth. even if a 49ers player says it.
arniefez  
Sean : 9/23/2023 12:46 pm : link
Nails it. I hate the Niners. Fuck them. My point is I understand why he's viewed like he is.

Most fans don't look for reasons as to why a QB plays poorly. We don't either of other QBs around the league.
RE: he's a white player  
BestFeature : 9/23/2023 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16218526 bc4life said:
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you think that makes a difference?


This 100%. It started on draft day when people were calling the Giants racist for drafting him over Haskins. Plis, the amount of respect Justin Fields got before the season compared to Jones is jarring. Fields was ranked #86 player in the NFL. If Jones were black he'd he be considered a good mobile QB that can throw.
RE: RE: he's a white player  
Toth029 : 9/23/2023 12:46 pm : link
In comment 16218533 90.Cal said:
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In comment 16218526 bc4life said:


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you think that makes a difference?



No… don't be a retard.

Its just easy to roll with the media driven narrative that DJ has gotten since he entered the league… over drafted… then a bust/turnover machine… then over paid… DJ wont get any respect until he wins this division at the bare minimum.


Well NFL players voted Justin Fields as a Top 100 Player at 86 and above Trevor Lawrence who is without a doubt been more productive and is more talented.

NFL players may be rich and talented athletically, but many of them are ignorant, perhaps illiterate and some probably racist and/or anti semitic (like we saw with the Desean Jackson case).
“Another Yells out from the shadows”  
bradshaw44 : 9/23/2023 12:48 pm : link
What kind of sensationalist bull shit is that? Were they on a parking garage wearing trench coats during this conversation?

Part of me thinks none of this was said. And the other part thinks something may have been said, but it was glorified by this “writer” in order to get clicks.

If these guys said it, then Daniel Jones should post this clip in his fucking locker and make sure he makes them eat those words. Until then he’s going to have to suffer these types of criticism. He needs to shut them up. Go beat some good teams. Start with a mediocre team Of Seattle. Then go put a stamp on it by beating the fins convincingly. Then stomp out the Bills for good measure.
It was a heated rivalry  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 12:49 pm : link
but now I think SF looks at the Giants like insects, none of those players knows or remembers that sh*t.

Having said that, Bosa is the most likely candidate to have a big mouth.
I think it might be less white and more Duke  
Sean : 9/23/2023 12:50 pm : link
White QB's like Burrow or Herbert aren't questioned by their peers. But I think there is a lot of resentment towards Duke. Look at how the fab 5 viewed Duke.
Talk is Talk  
SGMen : 9/23/2023 12:50 pm : link
The players see the film and are in the game and jealousy is a human trait. None of them play QB.

Jones is not elite 8 but until he has an Oline that can pass protect adequately it is hard to evaluate him fully.

If we had had Thomas on Bosa and Barkley running the ball the game would have been closer. No question. But even with them we don't win.
This is becoming a yearly article  
ghost718 : 9/23/2023 12:52 pm : link
Anonymous people trashing Jones

Next year it might be an Anonymous Grandma up in the stands,who claims Dan Jones owes her a new cane,because she broke it over her sons head in frustration.
RE: “Another Yells out from the shadows”  
Chris in Philly : 9/23/2023 12:52 pm : link
In comment 16218620 bradshaw44 said:
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What kind of sensationalist bull shit is that? Were they on a parking garage wearing trench coats during this conversation?

Part of me thinks none of this was said. And the other part thinks something may have been said, but it was glorified by this “writer” in order to get clicks.

If these guys said it, then Daniel Jones should post this clip in his fucking locker and make sure he makes them eat those words. Until then he’s going to have to suffer these types of criticism. He needs to shut them up. Go beat some good teams. Start with a mediocre team Of Seattle. Then go put a stamp on it by beating the fins convincingly. Then stomp out the Bills for good measure.


Once I went back and saw Benton, I too now assume it is all complete made-up bullshit.
Does anyone really think it was Jones's decision to check down?!?  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/23/2023 12:58 pm : link
It was clearly the game plan. Get the ball out quick because the line is so banged up.

Just look at which WRs had more snap counts.

This was a classic "put the governors on Jones" game. That's on the coaches.

And it surely didn't help that the defense was a freakin sieve....again.
Didn't realize they posted on BBI.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/23/2023 1:00 pm : link
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No  
Toth029 : 9/23/2023 1:01 pm : link
Players are questioning the horrible deals with Watson and Murray.

Murray got $160M guaranteed. And has as many playoff wins as my grandma.
Unless Jones  
JoeyBigBlue : 9/23/2023 1:05 pm : link
Wins a Super Bowl, he will always get criticism. The pre draft narrative was that he should have never been picked #6 and we had closer to a 3rd or 4th round pick. Unfortunately he will not live that down, unless he goes out there and wins a Super Bowl. All QBs face criticism, but sometimes media narratives put even pressure on some guys than others.
When people slam someone else about the money they earn  
steve in ky : 9/23/2023 1:06 pm : link
Look no further than old fashioned jealousy and envy
Now that I think about  
Spiciest Memelord : 9/23/2023 1:10 pm : link
it likely wasn't Bosa. He just signed a big ass contract of his own.
RE: he's a white player  
Giant volunteer 79 : 9/23/2023 1:10 pm : link
In comment 16218526 bc4life said:
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you think that makes a difference?

I don’t necessarily think that is the sole reason though unfortunately I think it does play a part. Growing up in North Carolina we knew what Duke symbolized, entitled, rich, arrogant. It’s referred to as The University of New Jersey. DJ grew up in Charlotte suburbs in wealth. He and his sister both went to Duke. He wears khakis, polos and boat shoes. He is quiet and not outspoken. The media and others will always see him as a spoiled rich boy who couldn’t make it anywhere else and got into Duke on his brains and has very limited athletic abilities. No matter how far he takes this team in his tenure as QB will he ever be given any credit. Just my humble opinion.
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