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DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 9:23 am
okay.. I have a tough decision in a 12 team half pt PPR league.

Pacheco may or may not start or be used effectively today vs the bears. He is also playing in the late game. So, I will have to leave him on my bench unfortunately even though they have a good matchup.

Therefore, I need the following from the group below..

WHICH GUY DO I SIT ON THE BENCH?

Choices..

Breece Hall
Roschon Johnson
Michael Pittman
Gabe Davis
I'd probably lean toward  
Kev in Cali : 9/24/2023 9:42 am : link
Hall to rebound after a dud last week. He'd be my first choice.
I would be very tempted to start Pittman  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 9:47 am : link
He’s been hot lately. Even with a different QB today, in this offense, he’s going to get targets.

I have a bit of a conundrum myself regarding my superflex position this weekend. Joe Burrow has aggravated his calf injury, so there’s no guarantee he will play on Monday. I have his backup, Browning, on my bench. Would you wait until Monday, and take a chance that Burrow plays? Or, would you pick up a QB off waivers like Dalton or Minshew, and go with them? I’m torn. Burrow hasn’t exactly been playing too well regardless, so benching him temporarily may be wise. Neither Dalton or Minshew have a great matchup, although, I have read that Minshew did play fairly well last week. Right now I am sticking with Burrow. What do you think?

Also, I have a few decent non-QBs I can start at superflex in my non-ppr league. They are:

Z. Moss @ Ravens
C. Watson v. Saints
Gainwell @ Bucs
Kirk v. Texans
J. Warren @ Raiders

Anyone of these guys can out produce my QB options this week.

Any feedback is appreciated. Best of luck to everyone.
I was looking for which guy to sit on the bench...  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 9:50 am : link
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RE: I would be very tempted to start Pittman  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 9:50 am : link
In comment 16219287 MadPlaid said:
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He’s been hot lately. Even with a different QB today, in this offense, he’s going to get targets.

I have a bit of a conundrum myself regarding my superflex position this weekend. Joe Burrow has aggravated his calf injury, so there’s no guarantee he will play on Monday. I have his backup, Browning, on my bench. Would you wait until Monday, and take a chance that Burrow plays? Or, would you pick up a QB off waivers like Dalton or Minshew, and go with them? I’m torn. Burrow hasn’t exactly been playing too well regardless, so benching him temporarily may be wise. Neither Dalton or Minshew have a great matchup, although, I have read that Minshew did play fairly well last week. Right now I am sticking with Burrow. What do you think?

Also, I have a few decent non-QBs I can start at superflex in my non-ppr league. They are:

Z. Moss @ Ravens
C. Watson v. Saints
Gainwell @ Bucs
Kirk v. Texans
J. Warren @ Raiders

Anyone of these guys can out produce my QB options this week.

Any feedback is appreciated. Best of luck to everyone.


I would rather go with Minshew
RE: I was looking for which guy to sit on the bench...  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 9:53 am : link
In comment 16219289 DefenseWins said:
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Thank you. I’m leaning towards Minshew too.

Ah, okay, I’d bench Johnson.
RE: I was looking for which guy to sit on the bench...  
Kev in Cali : 9/24/2023 10:16 am : link
In comment 16219289 DefenseWins said:
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Roschon Johnson
FWIW  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 10:32 am : link
these are the 1/2 PPR weekly rankings for Flex from fantasypros:


Breece Hall #58 (RB27)
Roschon Johnson #87 (RB33)
Michael Pittman Flex #49 (WR23)
Gabe Davis #71 (WR37)

Fantasypros agrees to sit Roschon
RE: FWIW  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 10:38 am : link
In comment 16219317 pjcas18 said:
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these are the 1/2 PPR weekly rankings for Flex from fantasypros:


Breece Hall #58 (RB27)
Roschon Johnson #87 (RB33)
Michael Pittman Flex #49 (WR23)
Gabe Davis #71 (WR37)

Fantasypros agrees to sit Roschon


Thanks PJ
I did something I rarely do  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 10:47 am : link
in FF and I drafted a D and I did it late but not that late (maybe 12 round). but I drafted the Eagles D. I figured no streaming for me, that D should be match up proof the way people on here were talking about them.

They have been pretty mid so far.

This week for some reason all the sites say they do not have a good match up with TB.

JAX is available and they have a good match up vs HOU.

would you start JAX D over PHI D? Or just ride it out?

I hate D's and K's. So if I sit PHI and they have a bunch of sacks or pick 6's I'll be pissed but if I play them and they give up 28 points with no sacks I'll be more pissed.



Reading “mid” from you is hilarious  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 10:54 am : link
was that intentional? Lol
I need a TE badly  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 10:58 am : link
Friermuth, LaPorta or Dalton. And not just today but moving forward. Leaving LaPorta.
RE: Reading “mid” from you is hilarious  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:00 am : link
In comment 16219331 UConn4523 said:
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was that intentional? Lol


Yes. lol. My kids say it all the time.
RE: I need a TE badly  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 11:04 am : link
In comment 16219336 UConn4523 said:
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Friermuth, LaPorta or Dalton. And not just today but moving forward. Leaving LaPorta.


I think I like LaPorta
RE: I did something I rarely do  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 11:05 am : link
In comment 16219328 pjcas18 said:
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in FF and I drafted a D and I did it late but not that late (maybe 12 round). but I drafted the Eagles D. I figured no streaming for me, that D should be match up proof the way people on here were talking about them.

They have been pretty mid so far.

This week for some reason all the sites say they do not have a good match up with TB.

JAX is available and they have a good match up vs HOU.

would you start JAX D over PHI D? Or just ride it out?

I hate D's and K's. So if I sit PHI and they have a bunch of sacks or pick 6's I'll be pissed but if I play them and they give up 28 points with no sacks I'll be more pissed.




It is early in the season. Is your matchup this weekend that close? Also, the bigger question is who would you have to drop to pickup the Jax defense?
RE: RE: I did something I rarely do  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:07 am : link
In comment 16219341 DefenseWins said:
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In comment 16219328 pjcas18 said:


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in FF and I drafted a D and I did it late but not that late (maybe 12 round). but I drafted the Eagles D. I figured no streaming for me, that D should be match up proof the way people on here were talking about them.

They have been pretty mid so far.

This week for some reason all the sites say they do not have a good match up with TB.

JAX is available and they have a good match up vs HOU.

would you start JAX D over PHI D? Or just ride it out?

I hate D's and K's. So if I sit PHI and they have a bunch of sacks or pick 6's I'll be pissed but if I play them and they give up 28 points with no sacks I'll be more pissed.






It is early in the season. Is your matchup this weekend that close? Also, the bigger question is who would you have to drop to pickup the Jax defense?


I would drop Jalin Hyatt who I was hoping would be a late round keeper. but I can get him back and he'd keep his draft status.

I am projected to win by 10 points, but to me anything 10 points or less is basically a pick 'em.

Good morning, pj  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 11:07 am : link
I would appreciate your feedback about my Burrow conundrum. Do you agree with DefenseWins, my best move would be to pick up Minshew and start him as my Superflex?

Thanks
The Jags have been hot so far  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 11:16 am : link
And, Houston will likely be playing catch-up, so more opportunities for sacks and turnovers. If you can pick them up, I say go for it.
RE: I did something I rarely do  
Kev in Cali : 9/24/2023 11:19 am : link
In comment 16219328 pjcas18 said:
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in FF and I drafted a D and I did it late but not that late (maybe 12 round). but I drafted the Eagles D. I figured no streaming for me, that D should be match up proof the way people on here were talking about them.

They have been pretty mid so far.

This week for some reason all the sites say they do not have a good match up with TB.

JAX is available and they have a good match up vs HOU.

would you start JAX D over PHI D? Or just ride it out?

I hate D's and K's. So if I sit PHI and they have a bunch of sacks or pick 6's I'll be pissed but if I play them and they give up 28 points with no sacks I'll be more pissed.




I'd pick up JAX D if you have a slot expendable. Keep the Philly D for sure.

Jax, has a somewhat soft schedule for the rest of the season, so one might be able to sit on those two defenses all season long.
RE: Good morning, pj  
Kev in Cali : 9/24/2023 11:22 am : link
In comment 16219344 MadPlaid said:
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I would appreciate your feedback about my Burrow conundrum. Do you agree with DefenseWins, my best move would be to pick up Minshew and start him as my Superflex?

Thanks


I'm not him, but I would pick up the Cinci backup and play whoever starts at game time. If Burrow gets injured again for whatever reason, you have his backup to plug and play. CInci has studs at WR which also helps.
RE: Good morning, pj  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:25 am : link
In comment 16219344 MadPlaid said:
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I would appreciate your feedback about my Burrow conundrum. Do you agree with DefenseWins, my best move would be to pick up Minshew and start him as my Superflex?

Thanks


Hey MP, sorry, I skipped right past it.

tough one, can't wait on MNF games. I sat Cooper last week because he was unlikely to play and then he puts up 16 pts (in ppr). But can't risk it.

I think Minshew is probably a good bet if you don't want to really roll the dice and pick up Jake Browning and if Burrow is ruled out you play Browning. That CIN offense has some great options and a good matchup, but Browning is a 27 year old journeyman probably for a reason.

I think Minshew or Dalton (I view them similarly) is the safe play, maybe Browning/Burrow the gutsy one.

And FWIW both Minshew (#46) and Dalton (#73) are higher in Superflex rankings than your other options: Moss (#76), Kirk (#91), Warren (#106), Gainwell (#164), Watson (#173) per Fantasypros

Moss is the closest, but otherwise they agree. Minshew is the play by a wide margin.

RE: RE: Good morning, pj  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 11:27 am : link
In comment 16219358 Kev in Cali said:
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In comment 16219344 MadPlaid said:


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I would appreciate your feedback about my Burrow conundrum. Do you agree with DefenseWins, my best move would be to pick up Minshew and start him as my Superflex?

Thanks



I'm not him, but I would pick up the Cinci backup and play whoever starts at game time. If Burrow gets injured again for whatever reason, you have his backup to plug and play. CInci has studs at WR which also helps.

Thank you, Kev. Like minds. I did pick up Burrow’s back up earlier this week. I was thinking the same as you. Depending on who gets the start, they will have great options to throw to.
Both Saints  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:31 am : link
RB's are on the wire in my league.

Kendre Miller and Tony Jones Jr.

I believe Kamara is back next week, but does anyone see long-term value in Miller? or do you think once Kamara and Jamaal Williams are both back touches will be scarce outside of those two (Kamara and Williams)?

RE: RE: Good morning, pj  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 11:32 am : link
In comment 16219362 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16219344 MadPlaid said:


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I would appreciate your feedback about my Burrow conundrum. Do you agree with DefenseWins, my best move would be to pick up Minshew and start him as my Superflex?

Thanks



Hey MP, sorry, I skipped right past it.

tough one, can't wait on MNF games. I sat Cooper last week because he was unlikely to play and then he puts up 16 pts (in ppr). But can't risk it.

I think Minshew is probably a good bet if you don't want to really roll the dice and pick up Jake Browning and if Burrow is ruled out you play Browning. That CIN offense has some great options and a good matchup, but Browning is a 27 year old journeyman probably for a reason.

I think Minshew or Dalton (I view them similarly) is the safe play, maybe Browning/Burrow the gutsy one.

And FWIW both Minshew (#46) and Dalton (#73) are higher in Superflex rankings than your other options: Moss (#76), Kirk (#91), Warren (#106), Gainwell (#164), Watson (#173) per Fantasypros

Moss is the closest, but otherwise they agree. Minshew is the play by a wide margin.

No worries, pj. Thank you. Yeah, it does feel like a toss up. Fortunately, this week, I’m already ahead of my opponent and projected to win by 20. But, nothing is for certain, ever. I need this win, so I think it would be wise to do the safe play and pick up Minshew.

Thanks for the details about flex rankings.

Best of luck to you.
RE: Both Saints  
MadPlaid : 9/24/2023 11:38 am : link
In comment 16219369 pjcas18 said:
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RB's are on the wire in my league.

Kendre Miller and Tony Jones Jr.

I believe Kamara is back next week, but does anyone see long-term value in Miller? or do you think once Kamara and Jamaal Williams are both back touches will be scarce outside of those two (Kamara and Williams)?

If you have the available space, taking a shot on Miller seems like a good idea. The prognosticators online have been talking him up all summer. He may finally get to show his stuff with Williams out. May still have a decent role when Kamara is back.
Aaron Jones inactive  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 11:41 am : link
looks like I get one more crack at Dillon
I have a RB issue...not a bad one but still an issue:  
RC in MD : 9/24/2023 11:50 am : link
.5PPR

Need RB2 and FLEX:

N.Harris @ LV
Z.Moss @ Bal
J.Ford vs Ten
AJ.Dillon vs NO

RB1 is R.Stevenson @ NYJ

I'm currently thinking:
RB2: Z.Moss
Flex: AJ.Dillon (another shot after a mediocre performance last week)


Also, who would you go with for WR1/2?

D.London @ Det
D.Hopkins @ Cle
R.Doubs vs NO
D.Mooney @ KC

Currently thinking:
D.London
D.Hopkins
Christian  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:52 am : link
Watson out...
RE: I have a RB issue...not a bad one but still an issue:  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 11:53 am : link
In comment 16219380 RC in MD said:
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.5PPR

Need RB2 and FLEX:

N.Harris @ LV
Z.Moss @ Bal
J.Ford vs Ten
AJ.Dillon vs NO

RB1 is R.Stevenson @ NYJ

I'm currently thinking:
RB2: Z.Moss
Flex: AJ.Dillon (another shot after a mediocre performance last week)


Also, who would you go with for WR1/2?

D.London @ Det
D.Hopkins @ Cle
R.Doubs vs NO
D.Mooney @ KC

Currently thinking:
D.London
D.Hopkins


I agree with your instincts on both. Doubs is interesting with no Watson, but it seems like Reed is the guy there without Watson. I still like Doubs a little. Tough one, but I'd go with your gut
Back to Pacheco  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 11:55 am : link
would you risk starting him? Apparently will be active but how much work will he get. Especially if they are beating the Bears soundly in the second half.
Pacheco is a dice roll  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 11:59 am : link
if they are up big my guess is the pull him and let CEH kill clock
RE: Pacheco is a dice roll  
DefenseWins : 9/24/2023 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16219391 UConn4523 said:
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if they are up big my guess is the pull him and let CEH kill clock


That is what I am thinking. I am going with Gus Edwards and Breece Hall as my two RB starters
Thanks, pj...  
RC in MD : 9/24/2023 12:02 pm : link
Hopkins or Doubs is a tough one for sure. I think it's pretty much a crap shoot 50/50 on who is going to get close to 10 points. I think I'll go with Hopkins with a hope that he gets a cheap TD against that Browns secondary.
Half ppr  
terz22 : 9/24/2023 12:22 pm : link
Dillon or M. Thomas
Khalil Herbert or DeAndre Hopkins  
davek3698 : 9/24/2023 12:28 pm : link
for my flex? .5 ppr league. Thanks.
RE: Half ppr  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 12:30 pm : link
In comment 16219409 terz22 said:
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Dillon or M. Thomas


Dillon
RE: Khalil Herbert or DeAndre Hopkins  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16219414 davek3698 said:
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for my flex? .5 ppr league. Thanks.


Toss a coin. probably Herbert.
I’ve got Tank Dell in over Herbert  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 12:36 pm : link
change my mind!
RE: I’ve got Tank Dell in over Herbert  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 12:43 pm : link
In comment 16219420 UConn4523 said:
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change my mind!


Dell has more upside. Seems like Herbert is hanging on to a timeshare and they want to use Johnson. When that happens who knows.

that said, Fantasypros it's 98% Herbert over Dell. Not that fantasypros is end all be all, they're not, just providing an aggregate data point.

Herbert is #75 flex (RB32) in their rankings and Dell is #85 (WR46) so not as far apart as it may seem.



Ughh  
UConn4523 : 9/24/2023 12:45 pm : link
I’m going to switch and regret it
I always  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 12:47 pm : link
go with my gut and don't 2nd guess it.

I do like other people's perspectives but I almost never change my mind. Unless someone chimes in with stuff like "Sauce Gardner will be man on player x" - actual x and o's stuff that could impact targets, carries, etc that I had not known or was not considering.
Fuck Brandon Staley  
JT039 : 9/24/2023 1:23 pm : link
I'm done with Dillon...  
RC in MD : 9/24/2023 3:19 pm : link
dude is just garbage. I have J.Ford on my bench with 20 points while Dillon can't do shit...ugh.
RE: I'm done with Dillon...  
pjcas18 : 9/24/2023 4:37 pm : link
In comment 16219598 RC in MD said:
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dude is just garbage. I have J.Ford on my bench with 20 points while Dillon can't do shit...ugh.


Same. I played Dillon because Ekeler was out, and I didn't have a player like Ford on my bench, but Dillon is droppable at this point. In a game with no Aaron Jones that you figured would be low scoring and he'd be fed the ball, but it definitely seems like he's an after thought.
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