For all those who think the Giants’ get the worst officials:

Cooper on my fantasy team too

NFL officiating continues to suck.

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even close

handed the game to Indy with the no call in OT. How do you not call that?

but, ya, that was blatant PI and a horrible no call, and the absolute difference in the game. Embarrassing.

We had better refs in HS.
I think these guys actually think people pay to watch them.

Until there are real consequences for blown calls.

In comment 16220113 NNJ Tom said:

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Until there are real consequences for blown calls.

What kind of consequences are you looking for?

I have said this before but it is worth repeating...

The officiating is not worse than 30-40 years ago. The difference is we have the technology and infinite number of camera angles to KNOW that the refs blew a call today.

Next, we have added so many rules that the refs have too many things to look at now.

know for fact which umps are good and which ones are terrible and nothing is done.

re: Ravens and Brown referees. Fortunately, Browns didn't need the call

that was overturned...right?

If it wasn't, then you have a point for sure.

level IV coaching clinic for ice hockey they had a session all about refs. and it it the head of North America refereeing for hockey showed a graphic detailing how many fewer refs there are now at all levels for hockey over the past 30 years. It's crazy. And it's a domino effect, they bring the best (of the bad) up to the higher levels then change lower levels to have fewer refs and generally promote refs before they are ready due to lack of numbers.

they said the reasons are mainly refs just don't want to put up with the asshole parents, asshole coaches, asshole players, and for not a ton of money on weekends and nights especially (for ice hockey).

they then showed it for all sports to show it's not just an issue for ice hockey. Football was one of the worst.

As society degrades to more and more animal-istic behavior, jobs like refs where you usually don't see youth refs doing it for the money will be harder and harder to fill - and it impacts all levels because I don't think pro refs start out as pro refs - they probably start with youth, then high school then college, then minor leagues (for some sports) then pro and you are losing the feeder systems.

just my philosophy on refs.

In comment 16220125 DefenseWins said:

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In comment 16220113 NNJ Tom said: Quote: Until there are real consequences for blown calls. What kind of consequences are you looking for? I have said this before but it is worth repeating... The officiating is not worse than 30-40 years ago. The difference is we have the technology and infinite number of camera angles to KNOW that the refs blew a call today. Next, we have added so many rules that the refs have too many things to look at now.

Bingo.

Also, when do we finally figure out that “consequences” don’t necessarily ensure success or change? What are you gonna do fire the official or find him every time he or she makes a mistake that anyone is fully capable of making? Yea that will work. Sure it will.

In comment 16219810 rebel yell said:

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handed the game to Indy with the no call in OT. How do you not call that?

Ravens had three chances to score in the final drive and in overtime. Special Teams even gave them midfield and a short field to go, and failed every time.

Had 46 yards in their final four drives including OT.

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In comment 16221066 Ivan15 said:

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And then what?

By the way, NFL refs are scored, just like PFF does with players. It's just not done by PFF and the scores aren't published for the general public. But they are reviewed, scored, and get feedback from the league office on their performance.

So are you looking for a formal review process? Or are you looking for a quantified measure with which you can criticize the officials? The former already exists; the latter isn't really necessary - we can already plainly see when officials blow calls. And as others have noted, it's not necessarily that the level of officiating has declined; it may well simply be that we have much more ability to apply much more granular analysis to the officiating (and have those blown calls echo through the internet for a week before we get more blown calls the following week).

In comment 16220273 pjcas18 said:

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level IV coaching clinic for ice hockey they had a session all about refs. and it it the head of North America refereeing for hockey showed a graphic detailing how many fewer refs there are now at all levels for hockey over the past 30 years. It's crazy. And it's a domino effect, they bring the best (of the bad) up to the higher levels then change lower levels to have fewer refs and generally promote refs before they are ready due to lack of numbers. they said the reasons are mainly refs just don't want to put up with the asshole parents, asshole coaches, asshole players, and for not a ton of money on weekends and nights especially (for ice hockey). they then showed it for all sports to show it's not just an issue for ice hockey. Football was one of the worst. As society degrades to more and more animal-istic behavior, jobs like refs where you usually don't see youth refs doing it for the money will be harder and harder to fill - and it impacts all levels because I don't think pro refs start out as pro refs - they probably start with youth, then high school then college, then minor leagues (for some sports) then pro and you are losing the feeder systems. just my philosophy on refs.

This reminds me of that classic commercial where an official is being berated by a coach and the question is asked " how do they train for this?".

The next clip is the official being berated in the same manner by his wife. Loved that commercial.

In comment 16219810 rebel yell said:

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handed the game to Indy with the no call in OT. How do you not call that?

Yeah, guy was mugged on that play.