Basketball teams start their best 5 players 99.9% of the time. Do you think AT,BB,JMS,MM and EN are our best 5 o lineman? And if not why aren’t we playing our best 5 do you think???
After that the question is McKethan a better guard than Neal is a tackle?
Based on that compose the o line.
Neal may be a better tackle than McKethan is a guard but the tackle position hurts you more with poor play at that position than at guard.
I think Neal needs to show weekly improvement. If he is not at least average by game 9 you have to consider playing Ezeudu there because you need to evaluate him at right tackle in preparation for the draft.
that this is the best 5 for this week for the following reasons.
- This is Neal and McKethan's third week together. Neither of them got the full summer camp in so they should be improving (communication, technique, etc.)
- Thomas/Bredeson are scheduled back but any setback and Ezudu is in. For that reason, it doesn't make sense to attempt to start him at right guard and not give McKethan snaps or even Ezude snaps at the left side positions.
- Nobody else outside of Ezudu/McKethan has displayed any upside for the future.
- In the perfect world, McKethan keeps the right guard job and they feel more confident slotting Ezudu at left guard (big assumption is that Neal can lockdown the right tackle job).
- Future goal would be to have a 2024 line of Thomas/Ezudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal. We probably try to get two journeyman back up types in free agency (Bredeson in the mix) and we invest a couple day 3 picks - maybe even a day 2 pick to develop.
he is not a bad left guard and he is only 25, Him and Thomas are actually pretty good next to each other, i know he wasnt drsfted here but he is still very young..
McKethan and Neal are there with the thought that they'll develop into better players than they are now.
Unfortunately one of the drawbacks of having a bad OL for years is we have to let guys develop in the starting lineup rather than on the bench or practice squad.
At this point in the season, moving Ezeudu to the right side would be
A pretty desperate move as I believe Ezeudu has few if any game reps at RG and none at RT in his 2 seasons. After the break, if the season is lost and McKethan and/or Neal don’t show improvement and Ezeudu at least has more practice reps, that would be the time to experiment. It would be at that point that the Giants would have to think seriously about 2024 free agency and the draft.
keep Danny off his back, because his completion percentage is much inferior to his pay checks.
His completion percentage is fine (65), just 0.5 behind Mahomes (65.5). That's better than Lawrence, Jones and Watson. And 5 percentage points better than Stafford and 10 better than Burrow. One more completion a game (the three deflected passes that went for INTs) and he'd be ahead of Hurts and Prescott. The problem is he needs time to be able to throw downfield.
The Oline is not good. There's no probowl Oline coming riding on a horse to save us. The group remains a work in progress. If we can get Neal and one of the guard spots looking as at least satisfactory answers in addition to OC and OLT, that would be best case scenario, IMO. But, good or bad, we damn well better get some honest answers for what we have in these young guys this year. More uncertainty going into next year would be a disaster.
he is not a bad left guard and he is only 25, Him and Thomas are actually pretty good next to each other, i know he wasnt drsfted here but he is still very young..
I agree. People treat him like an old average veteran. He played 48 snaps in 10 games with the Ravens and never started. Got traded here and was a rotating part of that mess, tagging in with Billy Price, in 2021.
He wasn't terrible last year and the Cardinals game this year was just his 11th career start, and he was having a nice day PFF numbers-wise before he went out (63.2 overall, 54.6 run block, 84.4 pass block, 0 sacks. 0 hits, 0 hurries, 0 pressures. 0 penalties)
I like Bredeson but it just doesn't appear that our staff loves him. I was really hoping that they would try to resign him in August for a cheap deal that keeps him around for a couple of years at marginal starter money.
The one concern that I do have with him is that he can't seem to stay healthy.
McKethan and Neal are there with the thought that they'll develop into better players than they are now.
Unfortunately one of the drawbacks of having a bad OL for years is we have to let guys develop in the starting lineup rather than on the bench or practice squad.
This . And the good part is if they do develop they could be together for quite some time
To me its Thomas, Bredeson, jms, Ezeudu
After that the question is McKethan a better guard than Neal is a tackle?
Based on that compose the o line.
Neal may be a better tackle than McKethan is a guard but the tackle position hurts you more with poor play at that position than at guard.
I think Neal needs to show weekly improvement. If he is not at least average by game 9 you have to consider playing Ezeudu there because you need to evaluate him at right tackle in preparation for the draft.
- This is Neal and McKethan's third week together. Neither of them got the full summer camp in so they should be improving (communication, technique, etc.)
- Thomas/Bredeson are scheduled back but any setback and Ezudu is in. For that reason, it doesn't make sense to attempt to start him at right guard and not give McKethan snaps or even Ezude snaps at the left side positions.
- Nobody else outside of Ezudu/McKethan has displayed any upside for the future.
- In the perfect world, McKethan keeps the right guard job and they feel more confident slotting Ezudu at left guard (big assumption is that Neal can lockdown the right tackle job).
- Future goal would be to have a 2024 line of Thomas/Ezudu/Schmitz/McKethan/Neal. We probably try to get two journeyman back up types in free agency (Bredeson in the mix) and we invest a couple day 3 picks - maybe even a day 2 pick to develop.
Unfortunately one of the drawbacks of having a bad OL for years is we have to let guys develop in the starting lineup rather than on the bench or practice squad.
Are they? We'll see
His completion percentage is fine (65), just 0.5 behind Mahomes (65.5). That's better than Lawrence, Jones and Watson. And 5 percentage points better than Stafford and 10 better than Burrow. One more completion a game (the three deflected passes that went for INTs) and he'd be ahead of Hurts and Prescott. The problem is he needs time to be able to throw downfield.
I agree. People treat him like an old average veteran. He played 48 snaps in 10 games with the Ravens and never started. Got traded here and was a rotating part of that mess, tagging in with Billy Price, in 2021.
He wasn't terrible last year and the Cardinals game this year was just his 11th career start, and he was having a nice day PFF numbers-wise before he went out (63.2 overall, 54.6 run block, 84.4 pass block, 0 sacks. 0 hits, 0 hurries, 0 pressures. 0 penalties)
The one concern that I do have with him is that he can't seem to stay healthy.
I think this handle is what our friends in the espionage industry call a burner.
Unfortunately one of the drawbacks of having a bad OL for years is we have to let guys develop in the starting lineup rather than on the bench or practice squad.