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Which NFL franchise has the brightest future?

DaveInTampa : 9/28/2023 2:30 pm
Recently, someone here posted the cumulative NFL standings for the past 10 years (which was obviously not pretty for Big Blue). But instead of looking back, let's look forward 10 years. If you had to place a bet on one NFL team to have the most cumulative wins from 2023-2033, who would you go with?
Dallas  
NoPeanutz : 9/28/2023 2:38 pm : link
they win 10 every year.
The Eagles  
Everyone Relax : 9/28/2023 2:40 pm : link
unfortunately. Don't see an end in site for them.

As long as Mahommes/Reid are still around they will always be
Super Bowl contenders. They still have a good 5 years left in them.

Green Bay  
Pork Chop : 9/28/2023 2:45 pm : link
they have all their stars on rookie contracts and some good draft capital.
RE: The Eagles  
Toth029 : 9/28/2023 2:47 pm : link
In comment 16223775 Everyone Relax said:
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unfortunately. Don't see an end in site for them.

As long as Mahommes/Reid are still around they will always be
Super Bowl contenders. They still have a good 5 years left in them.


Eagles have a number of older vets they will need to replace. Once Kelce and Johnson retire, yes they have Stoutland, but those two are HOF caliber guys.

I would pick Miami and Buffalo. Kansas City is concerning because Reid will retire. For the NFC, honestly I don't know. San Francisco makes most sense.
It’s mostly about the QB  
Metnut : 9/28/2023 2:51 pm : link
Chiefs, Bills, Eagles and Bengals all lined up really well. Add the Niners too because of their front office/coach.
Kansas City  
ElitoCanton : 9/28/2023 2:51 pm : link
without hesitation. Mahomes is amazing and still very young. And they have some good young pieces on defense.
Several AFC teams: KC, Miami, Cinn, Jacksonville...Chargers  
George from PA : 9/28/2023 3:08 pm : link
The future of NFC teams still TBD

Eagles current team....will hit a cap issue and age issues....granted...they keep going.

Unfortunately for the Giants, the Eagles..  
Drewcon40 : 9/28/2023 3:17 pm : link
...and to a lesser extent the 49ers (NFC), the Chiefs are an easy one.

Teams seem to get into a groove where no matter where they draft, they just roll along with consistent successful seasons. It doesn't always result in a Superbowl but they seem to handle adversity and maximize their draft and cap. Baltimore was a franchise that fit that recently. The Steelers as well although now they may have some trouble.
RE: Dallas  
4xchamps : 9/28/2023 3:19 pm : link
In comment 16223773 NoPeanutz said:
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they win 10 every year.

Plus all of those recent championships LOL
10 years  
pjcas18 : 9/28/2023 3:20 pm : link
IMO is more an indication of an astute front office and stable coaching group.

Something like what you had in New England starting in 2001.

It is more that than personnel because almost no one on a roster today will be there in 5 or 6 years, forget 10.

So, if you are going to do this evaluation that's how I would do it - and maybe you are too.

Not sure who has those conditions (astute front office and stable coaching situation)
If they get a better HC...  
bw in dc : 9/28/2023 3:58 pm : link
Los Angeles Chargers.

I think strong cases can be made for Green Bay and Jacksonville.

If you want to include the Chiefs, you have to include Sasquatch and the Bills.
It's KC  
Sean : 9/28/2023 4:00 pm : link
Mahomes & Reid. I'd take my chances every week.
RE: 10 years  
DaveInTampa : 9/28/2023 4:04 pm : link
In comment 16223822 pjcas18 said:
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IMO is more an indication of an astute front office and stable coaching group.

Something like what you had in New England starting in 2001.

It is more that than personnel because almost no one on a roster today will be there in 5 or 6 years, forget 10.

So, if you are going to do this evaluation that's how I would do it - and maybe you are too.

Not sure who has those conditions (astute front office and stable coaching situation)


Agree with this. Front offie and QB. Sadly for us, Philly has a GM who seems really sharp and a QB who is under 25 and has already been an MVP candidate.
The teams that have been good for the last 10 years  
Hammer : 9/28/2023 4:21 pm : link
will be good for the next ten years.

It just seems that some organizations have more success than others.

As for the Giants, they'll probably do what they have done in the past as well. They'll stink generally and once in a while pop up and surprise.
keep it simple  
djm : 9/28/2023 4:29 pm : link
Mahomes and the Chiefs. You guys take your teams I will take them. See who comes out on top.

And Philly is fucking loaded. They aren't even clicking yet and they are scoring 30 ppg and 3-0. Pray someone knocks them off before February...if not it's pray that KC can find its groove and stay healthy.
Dolphins dolphins dolphins  
Earl the goat : 9/28/2023 5:01 pm : link
Great young coach with a bright mind
Ton of team speed
RE: keep it simple  
BigBlueShock : 9/28/2023 5:06 pm : link
In comment 16223864 djm said:
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Mahomes and the Chiefs. You guys take your teams I will take them. See who comes out on top.

And Philly is fucking loaded. They aren't even clicking yet and they are scoring 30 ppg and 3-0. Pray someone knocks them off before February...if not it's pray that KC can find its groove and stay healthy.

Yep. The Chiefs is the only answer. Until Mahomes retires they will always be in contention
Miami  
MeanBunny : 9/28/2023 5:08 pm : link
Looks pretty good and has the right trajectory. I thought Jets and NYG did too but I am dead wrong
RE: If they get a better HC...  
BigBlueShock : 9/28/2023 5:09 pm : link
In comment 16223851 bw in dc said:
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Los Angeles Chargers.

I think strong cases can be made for Green Bay and Jacksonville.

If you want to include the Chiefs, you have to include Sasquatch and the Bills.

Haha, I knew you’d say the Chargers. You sure do love you some Justin Herbert.

Oh, and Jacksonville? They are trash. Getting beat down by the Texans is inexcusable and is immediate grounds for never mentioning them on these kinds of lists
 
christian : 9/28/2023 5:21 pm : link
Ten years is too long of a horizon in my view, statistically virtually no one playing today will still be playing.

I think a more fair range is five years. And I think the answer is simple, Kansas City.
RE: keep it simple  
NINEster : 9/28/2023 5:24 pm : link
In comment 16223864 djm said:
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Mahomes and the Chiefs. You guys take your teams I will take them. See who comes out on top.

And Philly is fucking loaded. They aren't even clicking yet and they are scoring 30 ppg and 3-0. Pray someone knocks them off before February...if not it's pray that KC can find its groove and stay healthy.


Modern NFL allows Mahomes to be a one man show that wins championships. Reid is a great coach, but even if he was the best coach, he still only has 3 all star players (Mahomes, Kelce, Jones).

It's very annoying.
RE: …  
bw in dc : 9/28/2023 6:00 pm : link
In comment 16223890 christian said:
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Ten years is too long of a horizon in my view, statistically virtually no one playing today will still be playing.

I think a more fair range is five years. And I think the answer is simple, Kansas City.


At the most important position, in ten years...

Trevor Lawrence will be 33.
Jordan Love will be 34.
Justin Herbert will be 35.

So, those are still quality years to perform.
RE: RE: If they get a better HC...  
ajr2456 : 9/28/2023 6:36 pm : link
In comment 16223886 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16223851 bw in dc said:


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Los Angeles Chargers.

I think strong cases can be made for Green Bay and Jacksonville.

If you want to include the Chiefs, you have to include Sasquatch and the Bills.


Haha, I knew you’d say the Chargers. You sure do love you some Justin Herbert.

Oh, and Jacksonville? They are trash. Getting beat down by the Texans is inexcusable and is immediate grounds for never mentioning them on these kinds of lists


You’ve never watched Herbert play have you?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/28/2023 6:45 pm : link
The Chiefs are the no doubt about it pick for me. Mahomes in 28...considering TB12 was out there until he's 45/greater improvement in medicine/training, etc,...it has to be KC.
RE: RE: RE: If they get a better HC...  
BigBlueShock : 9/28/2023 6:47 pm : link
In comment 16223928 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 16223886 BigBlueShock said:


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In comment 16223851 bw in dc said:


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Los Angeles Chargers.

I think strong cases can be made for Green Bay and Jacksonville.

If you want to include the Chiefs, you have to include Sasquatch and the Bills.


Haha, I knew you’d say the Chargers. You sure do love you some Justin Herbert.

Oh, and Jacksonville? They are trash. Getting beat down by the Texans is inexcusable and is immediate grounds for never mentioning them on these kinds of lists



You’ve never watched Herbert play have you?

Wtf? That’s quite a leap, even for you. I love Herbert. Never said otherwise, I was just bustin on bw as he’s got a major man crush on him. I think Herbert is awesome. And yes, I’m well aware that you have a major man crush on Herbert too, maybe more than bw, but you’re going to have to find someone else to argue with about Herbert. Again.
RE: RE: …  
christian : 9/28/2023 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16223908 bw in dc said:
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Ten years is too long of a horizon in my view, statistically virtually no one playing today will still be playing.

I think a more fair range is five years. And I think the answer is simple, Kansas City.

At the most important position, in ten years...

Trevor Lawrence will be 33.
Jordan Love will be 34.
Justin Herbert will be 35.

So, those are still quality years to perform.


Conceivably sure, but statistically the rate of contrition is a beast.

There are 4 starting quarterbacks from 10 years ago playing -- Stafford, Rodgers, Wilson, and Tannehill. And obviously three are on the ropes.

Who'd have guessed Luck, RG3, and Bradford would have been so deep in the rearview even 5 years after?
The Chiefs gave won with Malomes in a second contract.  
St. Jimmy : 9/28/2023 7:24 pm : link
That to me says them. In the NFC, we'll see how the Eagles do when the Hurts contract kicks in. I'd imagine the Andy Reid guys on the team would take a pay cut to play with him. Age has to cat h up with them soon (the old players). I like what Dan Cambell and the Loins are doing there.
I would say the Chiefs  
Jay on the Island : 9/28/2023 7:28 pm : link
but if the Bears or Cardinals land Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr. then that team will be exciting to watch in the future.
RE: The Eagles  
mfjmfj : 9/28/2023 8:04 pm : link
In comment 16223775 Everyone Relax said:
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unfortunately. Don't see an end in site for them.

As long as Mahommes/Reid are still around they will always be
Super Bowl contenders. They still have a good 5 years left in them.


The Eagles have a bright future if you mean this year and next. Then they are just hosed. They have pushed so much money forward that once the old guys leave or get hurt,which they will soon, they are dead. Even great management won't help. Great drafting might bridge the draft, but I think the hole is too big. They are spending roughly twice as much as the Giant on their roster this year. That will catch up.
RE: RE: RE: …  
bw in dc : 9/28/2023 8:12 pm : link
In comment 16223938 christian said:
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Conceivably sure, but statistically the rate of contrition is a beast.

There are 4 starting quarterbacks from 10 years ago playing -- Stafford, Rodgers, Wilson, and Tannehill. And obviously three are on the ropes.

Who'd have guessed Luck, RG3, and Bradford would have been so deep in the rearview even 5 years after?


Clearly you didn't factor in the inevitable rule change in five years where QBs will be wearing flags.
This is impossible to speculate on 10 years down the road  
dpinzow : 9/28/2023 8:23 pm : link
Who knows who will still be in the league in 10 years, on and off the field. Maybe 5 years down the road at most is the point where projections can be made
And the reason why it's impossible to speculate on  
dpinzow : 9/28/2023 8:27 pm : link
is because there could be some QB in high school we don't know about who will be the next Mahomes. We don't know who is going to draft Caleb Williams next year for all we know, and we certainly don't know what franchise QBs will be in the draft in 5 years who could be a Super Bowl winning player
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