while this is pure speculation, it is probable that it could have happened.
When you're playing, adrenaline is flowing and you can play through an injury. He was probably asked how he felt and he said that he was OK. Trainers can't diagnose the severity of a pulled muscle if the player isn't in too much pain. They give Thomas some pain meds at halftime and he feels OK until after the game. Then he feels the pain and lack of mobility.
All this calling out the coach as stupid for playing him when you don't have all the facts is just crazy.
Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
Every team has players hurt. You have to be able to win games not at 100%. The issue here is guys not stepping up. Look around the league, teams are doing it all the time. Our D line has faced some backup Oline and didn’t get it done.
This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
This sucks, but I'd rather not rush him back. Things like this happen to teams all the time and shouldn't be a death sentence. Lets see if the team and coaches step up
Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
Completely mismanaged it from the start. Pathetic.
Oh? Please share with us how you got the inside scoop with full details and how decisions were made. Then I’d like to know how you would have managed the situation “properly”.
But if you can’t answer the first half, don’t bother with the second, since all you’d be doing is guessing.
Every team has players hurt. You have to be able to win games not at 100%. The issue here is guys not stepping up. Look around the league, teams are doing it all the time. Our D line has faced some backup Oline and didn’t get it done.
This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
The problem is we don’t have starting quality players outside him on the OL. So these are like 3rd and 4th stringers.
The Barkley pick was the 2nd time in the game that he collapsed untouched mid-play due to the hamstring. All the snaps after that play is why there’s so much justifiable criticism of BD’s handling of the injury.
after the block? It wasn't like he was gonna catch him. Preserve your body and be ready for the next series. Made no sense and now we're here. They need t hold up on bringing him back till he's fully ready.
Somebody on the team has to show some hustle. The injury is unfortunate.
Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
We were in great shape to win but we had two runs to get a first down and completely run out the clock. No first down means that Arizona gets the ball back and would be one play away (PI, 50/50 ball, missed tackle,…) from field goal range and the game is up for grabs.
That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
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That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
100%. That's exactly right. like when Barkley took command of the Commanders game last season to run out the clock. It would be criminal not to have him in.
Or play derails the entire season then they aren't good anyway.
This. They've spent high picks on Neal and Ezduko. I'm sure that spelling is wrong lol. At some point guys need to step up. Shit.
Secondly after the Dallas and San Fran games this team is not ready to take a real step to contention. We don't even know if Barkley is here next year so I'm not crying to see other RBs shot along w the young OL guys
And lastly the defense has been so fucking embarrassing that even is the offense was great this team isn't winning shit. if they had 5 all pros on the OL im not sure they could win until the D un-fucks itself. They couldn't stop the Cards and Josh Dobbs. They play like they again the TV goes off. After 54 years I'm not ruining my days or nights when they play so bad. I don't get mad. I just turn it off. I personally can't watch a shitty game anymore
For those that do. God love you and the patience you still have
late Monday night (maybe early Tuesday) of Skinner's follow of AT chasing down the FG return and stumbling and collapsing in the end zone. Right off the bat of this season. It could not have been more obvious that he was badly hurt; only AT's dedication and fight kept him running downfield to catch a ST'er with a 12 yard head start: once it became clear it was a hamstring, imv, is it too strong to call this coach and training staff malpractice to leave him in, Game 1 of the Season now going very poorly? WTF could Daboll and Ronnie Barnes been thinking?
I am not impressed with Daboll's coaching job this year
LOL, great comment here. They surprised the league a year ago making the playoffs and winning a game. Now they’re 1-2, one game less than the 2-1 we had all hoped for and we’re already reacting like this? Too funny. Comments like this say much more about the person making them than they do the organization.
Here talked about how great it was he gutted it out as long as he did in the Cowboys game? It was stupid. It's a hamstring. Once you damage it you're going to continue hurting every time it contracts.
Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
We were in great shape to win but we had two runs to get a first down and completely run out the clock. No first down means that Arizona gets the ball back and would be one play away (PI, 50/50 ball, missed tackle,…) from field goal range and the game is up for grabs.
That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
If you're going to blame the blocked FG for the season
This happens so damn much with the Giants training staff, going back to the Coughlin era. Guys go back in a game and get hurt worse, or come back too soon and aggravate an injury. They freakin suck.
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La’el Collins if this is gonna be nagging all season.
He'd be a great addition with a healthy Thomas.
He hasn't been able to stay healthy.
He missed the last game of his rookie year (2015) with a high ankle sprain. The next year he missed 13 games with a torn ligament in his big toe (couldn't return form IR then).
He started every game the next two years, then missed one with a knee injury in 2019.
He missed all of 2020 after suffering a neck injury in the summer. He missed 5 games the next year for violating the substance abuse policy (and missing trsts and trying to bribe the tester).
Then he torn the ACL and MCL in December.
So, from football, in eight years he had a high ankle sprain, a torn toe ligament and a one game knee injury. He did have a back issue last year that required 'maintenance' but played every game until the knee injury.
My guess is that to the Giants the substance issue (which he claimed was for something that was no longer banned), missed tests, and the bribery (which he denies) are why they won't touch him.
Every team has players hurt. You have to be able to win games not at 100%. The issue here is guys not stepping up. Look around the league, teams are doing it all the time. Our D line has faced some backup Oline and didn’t get it done.
This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
The problem is we don’t have starting quality players outside him on the OL. So these are like 3rd and 4th stringers.
We’ll then we’re not as we hoped they were, as simple as that. If you’re sitting here expecting success but the only way for it to happen is perfect health, then good luck. The league doesn’t work that way. This is a beatable team we’re playing that has injuries too.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Of course they wouldn’t. But some fans really believe this is legit second guessing.
But, the Giants can't let their season spiral. If they do, there is a strong chance they'll draft a QB in what is supposed to be a strong class. Can't go 4-13 if you don't want that to happen.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
This is the NFL not fantasy football -use all your players and in this case falling down on the ball twice in a row would have erased the chance of fumbling and also the chance of injury. We still would have kicked the field goal at 23 seconds and Saquon would have not been hurt.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
This is the NFL not fantasy football -use all your players and in this case falling down on the ball twice in a row would have erased the chance of fumbling and also the chance of injury. We still would have kicked the field goal at 23 seconds and Saquon would have not been hurt.
Correct. That's why your best back is out there. No clue about your fantasy angle. I bet you said Arizona was a must win game. OK, lets sit our franchise running back in this must win game when we've fought back furiously largely with his performance and energy, and just need 3 secure runs and hopefully more yards to seal a win.
Stick to your guns if you want but siting Barley in that situation is just ludicrous.
I didn't think Barkley would go but I figured Thomas was a sure go for Monday after this rest and the fact he did partly practice during the week.
Ezedeu must be effective and has at least practiced at the position this week.
Matchup-wise, Seattle and Arizona are 2 of the best to have Thomas out. Now that Arizona's defense has proven better than expected, Seattle's DL is likely the least challenging for Ezudu in pass-blocking.
When you're playing, adrenaline is flowing and you can play through an injury. He was probably asked how he felt and he said that he was OK. Trainers can't diagnose the severity of a pulled muscle if the player isn't in too much pain. They give Thomas some pain meds at halftime and he feels OK until after the game. Then he feels the pain and lack of mobility.
All this calling out the coach as stupid for playing him when you don't have all the facts is just crazy.
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Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
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Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
But if you can’t answer the first half, don’t bother with the second, since all you’d be doing is guessing.
He'd be a great addition with a healthy Thomas.
True. With Bredeson back'll know late Monday if the OLT contingency plan was/is sound. Expect dropoff, but can't have futility.
This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
The problem is we don’t have starting quality players outside him on the OL. So these are like 3rd and 4th stringers.
He's been healthy his whole career until this >.< stupid blocked field goal. I blame the inept sc coordinator
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It’s almost unbelievable.
Am I crazy I thought it was on Barkley pick?
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La’el Collins if this is gonna be nagging all season.
He'd be a great addition with a healthy Thomas.
He hasn't been able to stay healthy.
Somebody on the team has to show some hustle. The injury is unfortunate.
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Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
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That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
100%. That's exactly right. like when Barkley took command of the Commanders game last season to run out the clock. It would be criminal not to have him in.
This. They've spent high picks on Neal and Ezduko. I'm sure that spelling is wrong lol. At some point guys need to step up. Shit.
Secondly after the Dallas and San Fran games this team is not ready to take a real step to contention. We don't even know if Barkley is here next year so I'm not crying to see other RBs shot along w the young OL guys
And lastly the defense has been so fucking embarrassing that even is the offense was great this team isn't winning shit. if they had 5 all pros on the OL im not sure they could win until the D un-fucks itself. They couldn't stop the Cards and Josh Dobbs. They play like they again the TV goes off. After 54 years I'm not ruining my days or nights when they play so bad. I don't get mad. I just turn it off. I personally can't watch a shitty game anymore
For those that do. God love you and the patience you still have
Not running the ball enough
Pass happy
failure to properly evaluate players
Team doesn't seem motivated. Not ready for start of season.
Defense is terrible after adding free agents.
Thomas situation completely mishandled
Right now I don't see us winning more than 4 games.
LOL, great comment here. They surprised the league a year ago making the playoffs and winning a game. Now they’re 1-2, one game less than the 2-1 we had all hoped for and we’re already reacting like this? Too funny. Comments like this say much more about the person making them than they do the organization.
Just blame someone. Maybe even fire them. Then we’d be better off.
Certainly fair to question his judgement keeping him in with the game well out reach for a long time.
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Alright, he gets injured on the blocked FG. Fine. It's football...that happens. What infuriates me is that he remained in the game as long as he did, which I'm sure didn't help matters. I swear with this organization...I'm @ a loss sometimes.
Hate to pile on but Saquon did not need to be on the field late in the Card game when he got hurt either.
Saquon got hurt when the game was tied and they were trying to move it downfield for the go ahead score. Not sure you’re benching your most explosive weapon in that situation lol
Saquon was hurt with 1 minute 12 seconds left with the Giants already well within field goal range on the Cards 23 yard line with a 2nd and 13 and running the clock down. Brieda or Brightwell could have made that carry or DJ could have taken a knee. Either way Saquon did not need to be out there like I said.
And then if Breida or Brightwell fumble, fans are screaming that our top back that almost never fumbles wasn’t in the game . Sorry this is a really huge stretch of a take
That is what I am saying. There was no need to run the ball into the middle of the line on that play. DJ could have just taken a couple of steps towards the middle of the field like happens so often when a team is running the clock to set up a field goal and fallen down and waited for the D to touch him down.
We were in great shape to win but we had two runs to get a first down and completely run out the clock. No first down means that Arizona gets the ball back and would be one play away (PI, 50/50 ball, missed tackle,…) from field goal range and the game is up for grabs.
That win was too important to avoid a chance to seal the game by taking out your best offensive player.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
How about just root for him to heal soon and Ezeudu to continue to play decently at LT.
It’s gobsmacking at this point.
This happens so damn much with the Giants training staff, going back to the Coughlin era. Guys go back in a game and get hurt worse, or come back too soon and aggravate an injury. They freakin suck.
How about just root for him to heal soon and Ezeudu to continue to play decently at LT.
Excellent point.
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He'd be a great addition with a healthy Thomas.
He hasn't been able to stay healthy.
He missed the last game of his rookie year (2015) with a high ankle sprain. The next year he missed 13 games with a torn ligament in his big toe (couldn't return form IR then).
He started every game the next two years, then missed one with a knee injury in 2019.
He missed all of 2020 after suffering a neck injury in the summer. He missed 5 games the next year for violating the substance abuse policy (and missing trsts and trying to bribe the tester).
Then he torn the ACL and MCL in December.
So, from football, in eight years he had a high ankle sprain, a torn toe ligament and a one game knee injury. He did have a back issue last year that required 'maintenance' but played every game until the knee injury.
My guess is that to the Giants the substance issue (which he claimed was for something that was no longer banned), missed tests, and the bribery (which he denies) are why they won't touch him.
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This whinny it’s going to be a long night stuff is pathetic.
The problem is we don’t have starting quality players outside him on the OL. So these are like 3rd and 4th stringers.
Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
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Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
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Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
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Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Of course they wouldn’t. But some fans really believe this is legit second guessing.
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Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
This is the NFL not fantasy football -use all your players and in this case falling down on the ball twice in a row would have erased the chance of fumbling and also the chance of injury. We still would have kicked the field goal at 23 seconds and Saquon would have not been hurt.
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Brieda got 5 yards on 3 and 11 and the Giant kicked the field goal with 23 seconds left. Arizona did get the ball back for the Hail Mary. Arizona loaded the box knowing full well we were not risking passing and stopping the clock. Brieda was fully capable of taking those last two runs. He made plenty of tough runs up the middle last year. Besides we were already in field goal range.
It all worked out but @ 2nd and 13 from the 25 the game wasn’t a lock. Gano’s great but we really needed some positive yards there to make it an easier fg. Pulling SB for the final 2 or 3 plays of the game because you’re afraid of injury is not something any coach in the league would do.
Saquon had already done his job by getting us all the way down to the 23. He was gassed at that point. Brieda is actually the better between the tackles runner whereas Saquon is the the home run hitter outside. With the Cards loading the box Brieda was the way to go in that situation in my opinion.Use all your players to win the game - after all it is a team game.
No. Arizona called time after Barkley's 16 yard run. And again after his next run. He wasn't gassed.
Approximately 95% of NFL coaches would have their best back out there in that situation. The one guy who didn't have him out there would be pilloried for it.
This is the NFL not fantasy football -use all your players and in this case falling down on the ball twice in a row would have erased the chance of fumbling and also the chance of injury. We still would have kicked the field goal at 23 seconds and Saquon would have not been hurt.
Correct. That's why your best back is out there. No clue about your fantasy angle. I bet you said Arizona was a must win game. OK, lets sit our franchise running back in this must win game when we've fought back furiously largely with his performance and energy, and just need 3 secure runs and hopefully more yards to seal a win.
Stick to your guns if you want but siting Barley in that situation is just ludicrous.
Ezedeu must be effective and has at least practiced at the position this week.
Ezedeu must be effective and has at least practiced at the position this week.
Matchup-wise, Seattle and Arizona are 2 of the best to have Thomas out. Now that Arizona's defense has proven better than expected, Seattle's DL is likely the least challenging for Ezudu in pass-blocking.
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lol what?