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pjcas18 : 10/10/2023 7:45 am


Three games today, all on ESPN.

NSH @ TBL 5:30PM
CHI @ PIT 8:00PM - Bedard debut
SEA @ LVG 10:30PM - Banner raising

Any predictions? I will share mine in the next post.
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RE: Newhook  
5BowlsSoon : 10/17/2023 12:30 pm : link
In comment 16251778 pjcas18 said:
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is moving to 2C between Slafkovsky and Anderson and Harvey-Pinard is moving up to the 1st line with Suzuki and Caufield.




I wonder how that munchkin line will work out….giving up a lot of physicality….I imagine your boys are going to be taken plenty of hits…better have Jackeye out there to watch over that…
RE: RE: Newhook  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2023 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16252008 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 16251778 pjcas18 said:


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is moving to 2C between Slafkovsky and Anderson and Harvey-Pinard is moving up to the 1st line with Suzuki and Caufield.






I wonder how that munchkin line will work out….giving up a lot of physicality….I imagine your boys are going to be taken plenty of hits…better have Jackeye out there to watch over that…


Suzuki can play physical and even though Harvey-Pinard won't confuse anyone with Pat Verbeek, it's really just Caufield I'd worry about.

Hit some easy parlays yesterday  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/17/2023 1:39 pm : link
Bedard over 2.5 SOG
Matthews over 3.5 SOG
Panarin over 2.5 SOG

also Rangers ML and Detroit ML

Calgary messed up another parlay for me.

Tonight I'm going with Sabres ML and Canucks ML parlay
I like the  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2023 3:53 pm : link
Wild money line and the Islanders money line

I’m on my way back to MA not sure I’ll get there in time to bet
Rangers  
Percy : 10/18/2023 9:41 pm : link
Need a reliable free Rangers stream for long time fan in VA. If there is one . . . . .
Huge slate of games tonight  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2023 4:30 pm : link
24 teams in action. Speaking of that, I think I posted this before, but I think there are two days this season when all 32 teams will have games and the NHL is going to have a "game mix" channel to track the games. The Sunday Ticket used to have a screen where you can put I think it was 6 or 8 games at once and it would show all 6 on your TV screen.

it was kind of information overload, but still fun. This will be more fun - and more overload.
the only  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2023 4:35 pm : link
undefeated teams left (including OT/SO) are VGKs (all they do is win) at 4-0, Avs at 3-0, NYI at 2-0 and the Bruins at 2-0.

We are no more than 4 games in for any team and only 4 teams haven't lost.

There are no teams that have not gotten at least 1 point yet, and only two winless teams (SJS 0-2-1 and SEA 0-3-1).
RE: Huge slate of games tonight  
Stu11 : 10/20/2023 9:19 am : link
In comment 16253889 pjcas18 said:
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24 teams in action. Speaking of that, I think I posted this before, but I think there are two days this season when all 32 teams will have games and the NHL is going to have a "game mix" channel to track the games. The Sunday Ticket used to have a screen where you can put I think it was 6 or 8 games at once and it would show all 6 on your TV screen.

it was kind of information overload, but still fun. This will be more fun - and more overload.

The NHL has always had this bizarre infatuation with being a Tuesday -Thursday-Saturday league. This week and next it's like that to the max. It's fantasy hell. You have nights where nobody plays, then those 3 nights you have everyone playing so you have to sit people.
Entertaining  
JayBinQueens : 10/20/2023 9:24 pm : link
Isles/Devs so far.

Isles need to stay out of the box
Connor Bedard  
pjcas18 : 10/21/2023 8:32 pm : link
scores on his first shot at the United Center.

Avs win Stanley cup.  
NorcalNYG : 10/21/2023 8:50 pm : link
That is my prediction
Some NHL  
pjcas18 : 10/23/2023 9:42 am : link
notes....from nhl.com

McDavid out 2 weeks with UBI

Kopitar sets Kings all time games played record. He is such a great player, I feel like he has been very under the radar out in LA. 2 cups, 2 selkes (would be more if not for Bergeron), good on face offs, and scored at almost a .9 ppg pace. future hall of famer

Bruins goalies showing up again this year, they have allowed 7 goals in 5 games on their way to a 5 - 0 record.

Avs also unbeaten and their goalies (including Georgiev) have allowed just 8 goals in 5 games.

VGKs only other unbeaten (including OTL/SOLs) team, at 6-0.

Only winless team is SJS
Only game last  
pjcas18 : 10:58 am : link
night was MTL in BUF. MTL won 3-1, BUF seems stuck in tweener mode. Not bad but not good.

MTL is very young and has no star but has a solid core. Jake Allen is still capable of a game like last night every now and then. Fun team to watch.
RE: Some NHL  
Giantsbigblue : 11:10 am : link
In comment 16258006 pjcas18 said:
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notes....from nhl.com

McDavid out 2 weeks with UBI

Kopitar sets Kings all time games played record. He is such a great player, I feel like he has been very under the radar out in LA. 2 cups, 2 selkes (would be more if not for Bergeron), good on face offs, and scored at almost a .9 ppg pace. future hall of famer

Bruins goalies showing up again this year, they have allowed 7 goals in 5 games on their way to a 5 - 0 record.

Avs also unbeaten and their goalies (including Georgiev) have allowed just 8 goals in 5 games.

VGKs only other unbeaten (including OTL/SOLs) team, at 6-0.

Only winless team is SJS


Bruins might have gotten another good one in the 2nd round in Poitras. Kid has been impressive. Don't know how they don't keep him up now.
RE: Only game last  
In comment 16259294 pjcas18 said:
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night was MTL in BUF. MTL won 3-1, BUF seems stuck in tweener mode. Not bad but not good.

MTL is very young and has no star but has a solid core. Jake Allen is still capable of a game like last night every now and then. Fun team to watch.


PJ, frozen frenzy tonight. You like any lines?

I personally like NJ -1.5 for +105.

Also like a small 4 team ML parlay with Toronto, Ottawa, Detroit and Boston for +520.

If I had to do a single ML it would be Ottawa over Buffalo.
RE: RE: Only game last  
pjcas18 : 11:31 am : link
In comment 16259320 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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night was MTL in BUF. MTL won 3-1, BUF seems stuck in tweener mode. Not bad but not good.

MTL is very young and has no star but has a solid core. Jake Allen is still capable of a game like last night every now and then. Fun team to watch.



PJ, frozen frenzy tonight. You like any lines?

I personally like NJ -1.5 for +105.

Also like a small 4 team ML parlay with Toronto, Ottawa, Detroit and Boston for +520.

If I had to do a single ML it would be Ottawa over Buffalo.


I lost my streak. I had the 49ers on the ML last night. I figured after the Jets debacle, being on MNF they were a lock.

Tonight, like you, I like NJD, but I like the NJD money line (if I get a booster). Devils would normally be heavy favorites regardless, but with MTL on the back end of of a b2b so I don't see NJD losing. I might even take the goals in this one (-1.5) as you say, but basically I'm a ML bettor because goals can be tricky. As the saying goes, nothing less secure in hockey than a 2-goal lead.

I like all the games you do.

But I also like the Pens as a home "underdog"

and lastly, the long shot, I may bet on SEA (+110) or +1.5, I'm not sure I am a Red Wings believer yet.
Sorry  
pjcas18 : 12:55 pm : link
not the Jets debacle with SF, it was the CLE debacle.
And the Bettman marketing machine strikes again!  
Stu11 : 1:00 pm : link
Let's have a frozen frenzy where everyone plays! Then let's schedule it on NBA opening night...
Gustafsson is a tailor-made fit  
bigbluehoya : 11:34 pm : link
For what this defensive group needed. Responsible play, can move the puck, strong, smart. I didn’t realize what a balanced player he was.
Poitras  
Giantsbigblue : 11:43 pm : link
With another goal. Also hope Lauko is ok
Another ho hum 4 point night for Jack  
Stu11 : 10/25/2023 12:50 am : link
PJ I'm not just patronizing you, I like Montreal's game. That was a strong effort on a back to back. Vanacek was on top of his game otherwise the Habs could have made that anyone's game. I like their physicality. We all know Caufield will be an elite scorer. They probably need some more offense. Toffoli is everything the Devs hoped Tuna would be the past few years. Hard to not see him score 30-35 again if he stays healthy.
Hughes is just playing  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2023 7:53 am : link
at another level and the team speed NJD has is an absolute weapon the only way to fight it is with physicality but you need to be able to catch them to hit them unless you want a parade to the box. Xhekaj is MTL's best all around D right now and I love seeing it. Matheson is the best skater, but he's not great in his zone and not physical.

1st period MTL was able to hang with them (with the help of Primeau), but my the mid 2nd their D were turning over pucks constantly. I thought Primeau kept it from being embarrassing.

I liked the Devils PK approach too, I absolutely hate the drop pass every single team seems to do on PP zone entry and i like that NJD found a way to disturb it, I also like that Matheson said F-that. lol. I wish MTL had more players who could skate the puck in the zone. That is not Suzuki or Caufield's strength. Dach was better at it, but he's gone for the season obviously. Maybe have Matheson make the zone entry.

Anyway, entertaining game.





New Jersey -1.5  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/25/2023 8:27 am : link
hit for me last night.

Ottawa forgot how to play hockey until late in the game. Lost on the parlay.

Made up for it late with a Rangers/Vegas ML. Can't believe how the Flyers are playing tough so far this year. They're not an easy out like in years past.
RE: New Jersey -1.5  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2023 8:42 am : link
In comment 16260202 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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hit for me last night.

Ottawa forgot how to play hockey until late in the game. Lost on the parlay.

Made up for it late with a Rangers/Vegas ML. Can't believe how the Flyers are playing tough so far this year. They're not an easy out like in years past.


SEA came up huge for me (after allowing 3 straight 3rd period goals to get behind). As did NJD and BOS. I lost the Pens. They may be in trouble if they don't get shit straightened out.

They have a ton of money in older players - kind of long-term too.

I thought this was the deepest Pens team in a long time, but they look old and slow. like me. lol.
RE: Poitras  
BillKo : 10/25/2023 9:36 am : link
In comment 16260147 Giantsbigblue said:
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With another goal. Also hope Lauko is ok


That was a beauty.

Showed off the speed and then the skill.

Kid is definitely sticking after 9 games.

Serves zero purpose to send him back to play with teenagers at this point.
RE: RE: Poitras  
Giantsbigblue : 10/25/2023 10:01 am : link
In comment 16260262 BillKo said:
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With another goal. Also hope Lauko is ok



That was a beauty.

Showed off the speed and then the skill.

Kid is definitely sticking after 9 games.

Serves zero purpose to send him back to play with teenagers at this point.


High hockey IQ play on his part. I remember reading he was awesome in camp but no one thought he would make the team 2 months ago
Yeah PJ there might be no more annoying play in sports  
Stu11 : 10/25/2023 10:37 am : link
Right now than the full steam ahead the stop and throw it backwards thing every team does in the PP now. I know it's some kind of analytics thing about zone entry but it just seems to kill the momentum of the rush. X is really impressive back there on the backline. Love his game. Can't believe he was undrafted but I guess you get those guys that fall through the cracks in all sports. Man Edmonton -woof. 7 more ga last night. They gotta tighten that shit up.
Only hockey bet I like tonight  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/25/2023 2:24 pm : link
is Devils/Caps o6.5 (-130)

Not sure if I'm gonna bite on it.
RE: Only hockey bet I like tonight  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2023 2:57 pm : link
In comment 16260567 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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is Devils/Caps o6.5 (-130)

Not sure if I'm gonna bite on it.


I wouldn't touch the over. but...both teams on the back end of b2b so who knows.

The reason I would be hesitant is WAS has just 7 goals in 5 games.

I like the NJD money line more.
Both  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2023 3:44 pm : link
Macklin Celebrini (Canada) and Cole Eiserman (USA) earn A ratings from Central Scouting per NHL.com

Celebrini is a Freshman at BU, Eiserman also a BU commit, would be a Freshman there next year even though there is just 2+ months difference in age.

Eiserman is an absolute sniper. Celebrini more of a play maker IMO.

Both very good players I expect to be at the top of the 2024 draft. hard to say how they compare to recent top of the draft players without seeing how they develop in their 17 year old seasons.

my gut says a notch above the Lafreniere draft, a jump up from the Slafkovsky draft but not quite at the Hughes level.

Eiserman's shot though will be NHL caliber as an 18 year old.
RE: RE: Only hockey bet I like tonight  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2023 8:41 pm : link
In comment 16260608 pjcas18 said:
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is Devils/Caps o6.5 (-130)

Not sure if I'm gonna bite on it.



I wouldn't touch the over. but...both teams on the back end of b2b so who knows.

The reason I would be hesitant is WAS has just 7 goals in 5 games.

I like the NJD money line more.


I guess b2b for both teams means no defense, lol good call LT.
Jack Hughes  
Jay on the Island : 10/26/2023 11:19 am : link
With 3 assists last night. He now has 11 points in his last 3 games. He has 17 points in 6 games. Coming into the season goaltending was the concern and they’ve done nothing to alleviate that concern. Hopefully Schmid turns it around soon or a trade will need to be made by the deadline.

RE: Jack Hughes  
Stu11 : 10/26/2023 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16261245 Jay on the Island said:
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With 3 assists last night. He now has 11 points in his last 3 games. He has 17 points in 6 games. Coming into the season goaltending was the concern and they’ve done nothing to alleviate that concern. Hopefully Schmid turns it around soon or a trade will need to be made by the deadline.

Yeah I agree that the goaltending has been inconsistent at best. Schmid in a small sample size has been pretty bad. Not sure what difference maker goalie will be available though. Also the scoring outside of the top 6 has been non existent. Luke Hughes has had a mistake here and there but overall has been solid and totally looks like he belongs. Mercer is off to a slow start and has been pretty much invisible. Very small sample size, I expect them to take off.
Stu  
Jay on the Island : 10/26/2023 3:59 pm : link
I’m not worried about them as they will get going soon. Hischier, Meier, and Mercer have gotten off to a slow start. Toffoli on the other hand has been a huge addition. If he stays healthy I would be surprised if he doesn’t score 40 goals this season. Unfortunately he is likely a 1 year rental due to the lack of cap room they will have to keep him. This is what most of us feared when they gave Palat a 5 year $30 million dollar deal.

As for the potential options for the devils in net if they do pursue a trade. I still have my eye on Carter Hart. I’m not sure what it would take to land him but I would be willing to part with Holtz in the package.
Caufield  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2023 8:25 am : link
a huge night last night (3 points and the OT GW).

Between the starts for Hughes, DeBrincat and Caufield - seems like a small player revival. Hughes is listed at 5' 11" so not quite the same smallness, but he's diminutive.

Hughes through 6 games is just shy of a 3 ppg pace.

It's ridiculously early in the year to look at things this way, but the top 3 in the points list are all Americans (Hughes, Larkin and Debrincat) which doesn't matter, I like hockey players from all countries, but it helps build the game which is more needed in the US than some other places.




Biggest surprises  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2023 10:25 am : link
so far?

It's so early to be surprised, but....

Flyers have to be one. Bobby Brink (or I should say Bobby Orr Brink - seriously his middle name is Orr) with his first two NHL goals last night.

MTL at 4-2-1 is surprising especially with the injuries (again) Dach out for the year, Savard out 6 weeks, Guhle out 2 weeks)

BOS 6-01. I don't know, man, two sub 2 GAA goalies. How? Ullmark wins the Vezina last year, but holy shit, Swayman looks like Patrick Roy.

DET 5-2-1, Yzerman gambled and it's early but so far looks like a solid gamble.

EDM, I wouldn't panic yet, but it's not far off.

Most of the west is as expected, SJS may be the worst team I have ever seen.

Down goes  
pjcas18 : 10/27/2023 8:44 pm : link
Vegas. In OT at least to CHI.

first loss of any type on the season.
Sounds like  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2023 8:59 pm : link
McDavid back tomorrow for the battle of Alberta (at Commonwealth Stadium).
These uniforms  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2023 8:16 pm : link
are awesome in the Heritage Classic. I am normally not a fan of alternate unis but these are great.

look really old school
Caught the 3rd period of the heritage classic  
Stu11 : 10/30/2023 3:04 pm : link
When I got home from the Devils game last night. Yeah the unis were good. Seemed like better quality hockey than the usual outdoor games. Maybe the weather was perfect as opposed to being too warm or cold. I'm kicking around going to the Devils one in February. Not dying to but my friend from highschool wants to come in from Israel for it and my son really wants to go. Was nice to see a Devs win. Solid game. Jay's favorite boy Smith had another agregious misplay directly leading to another goal. It's getting bad with him. Lindy was asked about him in the post game presser, he tried to cover for him. Unfortunately he's stuck in the lineup right now. Miller is on IR, Nemec just returned from an injury down in the A. He's pretty much boxed into play Smith at this point so he just has to make the best of it. The problem is when your goaltending is decent, not great you pay for these defensive breakdowns more. Lost in Jack's sizzling hot start is Bratt. 2 more goals and 3 points last night(also had a goal wiped out on an offsides review) now 14 points in 8 games. He's had these hot steaks before so we'll see but he may just be in line for a big breakout this year.
Hit on Buffalo ML yesterday.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 10/30/2023 4:02 pm : link
Today I like Panarin o2.5 SOG.
RE: Caught the 3rd period of the heritage classic  
pjcas18 : 10/30/2023 4:09 pm : link
In comment 16267681 Stu11 said:
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When I got home from the Devils game last night. Yeah the unis were good. Seemed like better quality hockey than the usual outdoor games. Maybe the weather was perfect as opposed to being too warm or cold. I'm kicking around going to the Devils one in February. Not dying to but my friend from highschool wants to come in from Israel for it and my son really wants to go. Was nice to see a Devs win. Solid game. Jay's favorite boy Smith had another agregious misplay directly leading to another goal. It's getting bad with him. Lindy was asked about him in the post game presser, he tried to cover for him. Unfortunately he's stuck in the lineup right now. Miller is on IR, Nemec just returned from an injury down in the A. He's pretty much boxed into play Smith at this point so he just has to make the best of it. The problem is when your goaltending is decent, not great you pay for these defensive breakdowns more. Lost in Jack's sizzling hot start is Bratt. 2 more goals and 3 points last night(also had a goal wiped out on an offsides review) now 14 points in 8 games. He's had these hot steaks before so we'll see but he may just be in line for a big breakout this year.


Have you been to an outdoor game? fun for the novelty and a great time, but not so great for the hockey. I went to frozen fenway and the site lines are downright awful. it's the one time at Fenway you wanted to be in the upper deck. But it was -20 degrees with the wind chill and colder and windier up there. hot chocolate was freezing for people who had it. I had a ton of friends go to the Habs Bruins at Gillette and you are so far away from the rink it was bad there too.

Fun, and a great social event, but no beuno for hockey (at most venues I would guess).

If you're cool with that I highly recommend it.
Hey pj  
5BowlsSoon : 10/30/2023 4:25 pm : link
Congrats on being 5-2-1, but I think your boys have been lucky, getting some great goaltending to bail you out. Allen looked like Price Saturday.

Anyhow, I want to ask you….don’t you think Slafkowsky should be in Laval like Roy is? He looks dazed and confused…especially without Dach centering his line.
RE: Hey pj  
pjcas18 : 10/30/2023 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16267964 5BowlsSoon said:
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Congrats on being 5-2-1, but I think your boys have been lucky, getting some great goaltending to bail you out. Allen looked like Price Saturday.

Anyhow, I want to ask you….don’t you think Slafkowsky should be in Laval like Roy is? He looks dazed and confused…especially without Dach centering his line.


Slafkovsky is absolutely lost. He is a defensive liability and an offensive zero. You can see the skill but he lacks the IQ and confidence. Laval may be just what he needs, heck they sent Caufield down, but it seems like they too dug in/stubborn to make the move.
RE: RE: Caught the 3rd period of the heritage classic  
Stu11 : 10/30/2023 5:29 pm : link
In comment 16267903 pjcas18 said:
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Have you been to an outdoor game? fun for the novelty and a great time, but not so great for the hockey. I went to frozen fenway and the site lines are downright awful. it's the one time at Fenway you wanted to be in the upper deck. But it was -20 degrees with the wind chill and colder and windier up there. hot chocolate was freezing for people who had it. I had a ton of friends go to the Habs Bruins at Gillette and you are so far away from the rink it was bad there too.

Fun, and a great social event, but no beuno for hockey (at most venues I would guess).

If you're cool with that I highly recommend it.

Never been to one. Yeah that's the gist I get. That it's awful to actually watch the game but more about the "experience" I don't know the prices are so insane too. Meh I may end up getting roped in lol.
RE: Caught the 3rd period of the heritage classic  
Jay on the Island : 10/30/2023 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16267681 Stu11 said:
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When I got home from the Devils game last night. Yeah the unis were good. Seemed like better quality hockey than the usual outdoor games. Maybe the weather was perfect as opposed to being too warm or cold. I'm kicking around going to the Devils one in February. Not dying to but my friend from highschool wants to come in from Israel for it and my son really wants to go. Was nice to see a Devs win. Solid game. Jay's favorite boy Smith had another agregious misplay directly leading to another goal. It's getting bad with him. Lindy was asked about him in the post game presser, he tried to cover for him. Unfortunately he's stuck in the lineup right now. Miller is on IR, Nemec just returned from an injury down in the A. He's pretty much boxed into play Smith at this point so he just has to make the best of it. The problem is when your goaltending is decent, not great you pay for these defensive breakdowns more. Lost in Jack's sizzling hot start is Bratt. 2 more goals and 3 points last night(also had a goal wiped out on an offsides review) now 14 points in 8 games. He's had these hot steaks before so we'll see but he may just be in line for a big breakout this year.

At this point I would rather see Cal Foote get time over Smith until Nemec or Miller are ready. Smith should be in the AHL not playing every night with a prized rookie.
Not gonna happen Jay  
Stu11 : 10/31/2023 11:30 am : link
They asked Lindy on his presser Sunday if they had any plans to get Foote in there and he acted like he never heard of him. Listen they're not gonna play an AHL journeyman. Hopefully Miller gets healthy soon or they just promote Nemec soon. Smith can't be long for this lineup. I wonder if Seamus Casey becomes an option after the NCAA season or maybe with his size he stays another year at Michigan.
My  
Giantsbigblue : 10/31/2023 11:38 am : link
Bruins are 8-0-1. I thought they would still be a playoff team but never expected a start like this. Jim Montgomery is a hell of a coach apparently.
Well BOS has two goalies  
pjcas18 : 10/31/2023 11:52 am : link
with sub 1.8 GAA and both over 93% save percentages.

that is insane. Hard to know if it's because of the D and scheme, etc. or if both goalies are so locked in they are brick walls.

Ullmark is the reigning Vezina winner and he's off to a ridiculous start and you can make a case Swayman is off to a better start.
RE: Well BOS has two goalies  
Giantsbigblue : 10/31/2023 11:54 am : link
In comment 16269036 pjcas18 said:
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with sub 1.8 GAA and both over 93% save percentages.

that is insane. Hard to know if it's because of the D and scheme, etc. or if both goalies are so locked in they are brick walls.

Ullmark is the reigning Vezina winner and he's off to a ridiculous start and you can make a case Swayman is off to a better start.


With McAvoys dirty hit last night we might get that answer
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