It's a joke. I watch NHL network regularly. I watch games other than the team I root for. I follow nhl media accounts. I'm a more engaged fan than average and I had zero idea. Only because I ran across a random highlight on Twitter did I know the game was on.
I was only aware of it because a friend told me he was going over there to watch them. I had no idea.
RE: RE: RE: The NHL did such a shit job advertising this global series.
Nothing has changed. The NHL has been horrible at advertising for decades. The NHL desperately needs a new commissioner with an actual vision and understanding of how to build the game.
It's ridiculous, I only knew about the game today because I checked ESPN to see if there was a game on. Why aren't other broadcasts (like MSG) advertising this stuff? It's silly.
I only knew about it from reading this thread.
RE: RE: RE: RE: The NHL did such a shit job advertising this global series.
Nothing has changed. The NHL has been horrible at advertising for decades. The NHL desperately needs a new commissioner with an actual vision and understanding of how to build the game.
It's ridiculous, I only knew about the game today because I checked ESPN to see if there was a game on. Why aren't other broadcasts (like MSG) advertising this stuff? It's silly.
I only knew about it from reading this thread.
Yeah I only knew about it because I missed putting one of my fantasy guys on Friday with the 2pm start lol.
about it, but I just thought while kind of cool it's not for "us" it's like the NFL games in UK and Germany. it's to bring the game to a wider audience.
the only thing better about the NHL and the Global Series than the NFL and games in Germany is there are a lot of NHL players from those countries (this year it's Sweden).
Milan Lucic arrested. Domestic violence incident, apparently.
Placed on an indefinite leave of absence.
Only NHL player I have seen disrespect the handshake line after a playoff series. I'm sure it happens, but he's the only one I saw do it - just classless. So anything else he does, doesn't surprise me.
of course I support due process and not everything is as initially reported, but get a f-ing spine Bruins. You need to word this as he is being kept away from the team while and investigation is conducted.
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Milan Lucic taking an “indefinite leave of absence” from team after an alleged domestic incident. Statement from the Bruins: “The Boston Bruins are aware of an incident involving Milan Lucic Friday evening. Milan is taking an indefinite leave of absence from the team…"
This season so far, Luke Hughes has spent the majority of his 5 on 5 ice time playing on the New Jersey Devils’ third defensive pairing. The top pairing has mostly been Dougie Hamilton and Jonas Siegenthaler, while John Marino and Kevin Bahl have stayed together as a second pairing. Now, as a rookie, being on the third pairing is nothing to be ashamed of, and he has certainly shown that he can grow into a bigger role, and probably will as he progresses. He has also been given quality power play time and has really made a positive impact there, a bigger impact than at 5 on 5 for sure.
The issue for Luke for most of the season, however, is that being on the third defensive pairing has meant playing alongside Brendan Smith. And in terms of production, numbers, and just overall quality of play, that has been nothing short of a disaster for the younger Hughes brother. This has been evident for anyone who has simply sat down and watched some Devils hockey this season, but the numbers also really showcase this.
These numbers are honestly pretty damning for both Brendan Smith and for the coaching staff that kept them together for over 128 minutes at 5 on 5. Luke Hughes was clearly propping up Smith and doing the best he could to make that pairing work, and while I also believe that Smith was working just as hard to make the pairing work, the fact of the matter is that he was just pulling Luke down with him. Luke’s numbers without Smith are incredible, while when with Smith, they are really subpar. His Corsi jumps over 13.5% without Smith, his Goals For jumps over 50% (!!!!) without Smith, and this is solidified by his expected Goals For jumping over 40%. And if you want to look even a little closer, his high danger attempts jump almost 30% when playing without Smith. It’s almost like Luke is a completely different player when playing without Smith. Luke Hughes Shined Bright Thursday Without Brendan Smith - ( New Window )
really here to me except....Charlie Lindgren (Rangers D Ryan's older brother)...I always wanted him to get a chance in MTL, but when he did he didn't seize it, but good to see him have success, albeit SSS. Also Quick being ahead of Igor is a surprise based on how we seemed to be a castoff last deadline and struggled in the pre-season.
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Was nearly a PPG player last season. Has a modified NTC. Have to imagine he asks out?
Here is the funny thing about Laine.
as an 18-year old rookie he put up 36 goals and 64 points with WIN and a lot of Rangers fans pointed to that season as why Lafreniere was a failure and a bust.
Who trades Lafreniere (a far more complete player) for Laine now (who is still just 25 years old)? No one, that's who.
everyone wants everything immediately. sometimes patience pays off.
The Rangers fan/Laf discourse was mostly always stupid, although that story is far from over.
it was stupid, and it's not over, but successful hockey teams aren't built on the Laine's of the world IMO. They are built on players like Lafreniere - who needs to improve his production like he's doing so far this year, but I think you get my point.
I read (per Elliotte) he has met with DAL and TOR, but those two seem unlikely.
Makes sense from the local hero standpoint, but I figured he'd be more help to a team that's more in contention. I guess they figure if they're out of it at the deadline they can deal him.
I read (per Elliotte) he has met with DAL and TOR, but those two seem unlikely.
Makes sense from the local hero standpoint, but I figured he'd be more help to a team that's more in contention. I guess they figure if they're out of it at the deadline they can deal him.
I think the Rangers make the most sense, again, but seems like they need a D more.
What's Laine's issue? Is it just effort/determination?
Laine has had attitude issues dogging him for a while. but CBJ coach benched Johnny Gaudreau too.
sometimes when your stars aren't producing it's on the stars, but sometimes it's not just on the stars. People don't often understand the role confidence plays in success. I bet there is some sports psychiatrist who has a book on it.
I'd avoid Laine unless it's a salary dump kind of thing.
I watched the NYI/EDM game last week and nothing looked right other than Draisatl. They won, but McDavid looked off, the play was sloppy, etc. This was Knoblauch's first game, but it looked like a preseason game.
What about the noise about the Habs working out a trade with one of the goalies? Hughes can’t keep 3 and for Edmonton, “American Thanksgiving” approaches lol.
What about the noise about the Habs working out a trade with one of the goalies? Hughes can’t keep 3 and for Edmonton, “American Thanksgiving” approaches lol.
I do think they'll trade one but none of the Habs three goalies, right now, are starters on a contender IMO. But the Habs D are so young it's hard to truly evaluate them - and they're all doing ok. They'll trade one because all three are in that space of not good enough to start on a contender, but not bad enough to sneak through waivers. So they have to keep three or trade one.
The best one is/was probably Casey DeSmith who they already traded to Vancouver for Tanner Pearson.
I like Montembeault and Primeau but I don't think either would move the needle in EDM. Jake Allen either.
EDM should do what PIT does and trade all their draft picks but EDM should trade them for a goalie (Carter Hart?) and veteran D depth.
If Hart is really available then NJ has to acquire him. At this point I would be willing to trade Vanecek, Holtz, and a 1st.
Flyers are in 2nd place in the metro, but it's "fools gold", I don't think they're good and they have 3 more games played than 3rd place (WAS - also not good) and 1 more than 4th place (CAR) who are both one point behind them.
I know it's ridiculously early to think this way, but 4 points (2 games) separates 2nd place from 7th place in the metro with games in hand all over the place.
IOW, if I were PHI I'd sell on Carter Hart, but they may not agree.
Yeah I don't see the Flyers rushing to sell especially Hart
They're playing decent. Maybe by trade deadline they'll fall out of it. They don't have much organizational depth in goal so I'm not so sure they would trade Hart. They'd probably look to deal guys like Cam Atkinson or Sean Couturier first
Stars and Golden Knights tied 1-1 heading into 3rd period
But they are REALLY old. Most of their best players are well into their 30s, Pavelski and Suter are 39. Doesn’t seem likely that those guys can all stay healthy and productive all the way through May and June
But they are REALLY old. Most of their best players are well into their 30s, Pavelski and Suter are 39. Doesn’t seem likely that those guys can all stay healthy and productive all the way through May and June
Stars average age of the roster is 1.5 years older than the Rangers.
Stars have veteran presence in guys like Pavelski, but their core is similar to NYR. Heck, their star Jason Robertson is 24, Wyatt Johnson is 20. Roope Hintz (27) (would have probably been Conn Smythe if DAL won and he is younger than Kreider, and Panarin) so is Seguin (31), Heiskanen (24).
I think like the Rangers, the Stars have a good mix of youth and veterans - just their veterans, like Pavelski, will require some monitoring.
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Corey Perry, who was scratched last night as a mysterious "organizational" decision, is not on the ice for Blackhawks practice.
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Chicago has announced that Taylor Hall will have season-ending knee surgery.
It's a shame. The season after he won the Hart he injured his knee in like December, the Devils pulled their usual "day to day" and we never saw him again that season. He hasn't been the same since. I'm sure he'll fight his way back but he'll never be more than a shell of his old self.
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Friedman on 32TP: "I honestly believe that the Oilers are going to try and weather this as much as they can without doing anything they're going to regret for generations"
circulating about a Montembeault to EMD "blockbuster" involving Jack Campbell.
Of the three MTL goalies, Montembeault is the one I'd least want to trade and getting Campbell back makes no sense so I doubt it.
being discuss in intermission of the Habs Sharks game by Sharks announcers. I put blockbuster in quotes because I do think Sammy is an up and coming goalie (at 27 years old) but I don't know he is who i would target if I was EDM and need a "win now" goalie.
circulating about a Montembeault to EMD "blockbuster" involving Jack Campbell.
Of the three MTL goalies, Montembeault is the one I'd least want to trade and getting Campbell back makes no sense so I doubt it.
being discuss in intermission of the Habs Sharks game by Sharks announcers. I put blockbuster in quotes because I do think Sammy is an up and coming goalie (at 27 years old) but I don't know he is who i would target if I was EDM and need a "win now" goalie.
That doesn't make any sense for Montreal unless a 2nd round draft pick is also coming to Montreal. I am not suggesting that Montembeault is a good starting goalie but Campbell is worse, older, and has a terrible contract.
I don't like proclaiming "rock bottom" because as Eric says things can always get worse but if there's a lower point than then scoring 1 lousy goal vs Columbus at home then I don't wanna be around for it. Team looks clueless out there. Yeah the defense is bad but they slept walked through 2 periods offensively then came on with 23 shots in the 3rd but couldn't put one in. They're pretty much imitating the Panthers season last year. Let's hope it ends similarly.
I don't like proclaiming "rock bottom" because as Eric says things can always get worse but if there's a lower point than then scoring 1 lousy goal vs Columbus at home then I don't wanna be around for it. Team looks clueless out there. Yeah the defense is bad but they slept walked through 2 periods offensively then came on with 23 shots in the 3rd but couldn't put one in. They're pretty much imitating the Panthers season last year. Let's hope it ends similarly.
When Brunette landed the Nashville HC job I was extremely disappointed and I mentioned how I was concerned that he played a big part in the Devils surprising success last season. Now I am not saying that is the reason why the Devils have played so poorly but it certainly is one of the factors IMO.
I won't go into a Ruff rant again but once again he is proving that he is not the right man to lead this franchise. The Devils need to turn the season around quickly and the first move I would make is to acquire a goaltender. If they still struggle then it is time to consider a change at HC. Travis Green is not the right choice either.
I don't like proclaiming "rock bottom" because as Eric says things can always get worse but if there's a lower point than then scoring 1 lousy goal vs Columbus at home then I don't wanna be around for it. Team looks clueless out there. Yeah the defense is bad but they slept walked through 2 periods offensively then came on with 23 shots in the 3rd but couldn't put one in. They're pretty much imitating the Panthers season last year. Let's hope it ends similarly.
When Brunette landed the Nashville HC job I was extremely disappointed and I mentioned how I was concerned that he played a big part in the Devils surprising success last season. Now I am not saying that is the reason why the Devils have played so poorly but it certainly is one of the factors IMO.
I won't go into a Ruff rant again but once again he is proving that he is not the right man to lead this franchise. The Devils need to turn the season around quickly and the first move I would make is to acquire a goaltender. If they still struggle then it is time to consider a change at HC. Travis Green is not the right choice either.
Yeah Jay they really miss Brunette. Also Severson. He was an underrated puck mover. They're D looks lost in the defensive zone and it's not the kids as much as Siegenthaler and Marino have to play better though Luke and Bahl were shaky today.
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Watching the game now.
It's a joke. I watch NHL network regularly. I watch games other than the team I root for. I follow nhl media accounts. I'm a more engaged fan than average and I had zero idea. Only because I ran across a random highlight on Twitter did I know the game was on.
I was only aware of it because a friend told me he was going over there to watch them. I had no idea.
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Watching the game now.
Nothing has changed. The NHL has been horrible at advertising for decades. The NHL desperately needs a new commissioner with an actual vision and understanding of how to build the game.
It's ridiculous, I only knew about the game today because I checked ESPN to see if there was a game on. Why aren't other broadcasts (like MSG) advertising this stuff? It's silly.
I only knew about it from reading this thread.
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Watching the game now.
Nothing has changed. The NHL has been horrible at advertising for decades. The NHL desperately needs a new commissioner with an actual vision and understanding of how to build the game.
It's ridiculous, I only knew about the game today because I checked ESPN to see if there was a game on. Why aren't other broadcasts (like MSG) advertising this stuff? It's silly.
I only knew about it from reading this thread.
Yeah I only knew about it because I missed putting one of my fantasy guys on Friday with the 2pm start lol.
the only thing better about the NHL and the Global Series than the NFL and games in Germany is there are a lot of NHL players from those countries (this year it's Sweden).
Placed on an indefinite leave of absence.
Placed on an indefinite leave of absence.
Only NHL player I have seen disrespect the handshake line after a playoff series. I'm sure it happens, but he's the only one I saw do it - just classless. So anything else he does, doesn't surprise me.
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Milan Lucic taking an “indefinite leave of absence” from team after an alleged domestic incident. Statement from the Bruins: “The Boston Bruins are aware of an incident involving Milan Lucic Friday evening. Milan is taking an indefinite leave of absence from the team…"
The issue for Luke for most of the season, however, is that being on the third defensive pairing has meant playing alongside Brendan Smith. And in terms of production, numbers, and just overall quality of play, that has been nothing short of a disaster for the younger Hughes brother. This has been evident for anyone who has simply sat down and watched some Devils hockey this season, but the numbers also really showcase this.
These numbers are honestly pretty damning for both Brendan Smith and for the coaching staff that kept them together for over 128 minutes at 5 on 5. Luke Hughes was clearly propping up Smith and doing the best he could to make that pairing work, and while I also believe that Smith was working just as hard to make the pairing work, the fact of the matter is that he was just pulling Luke down with him. Luke’s numbers without Smith are incredible, while when with Smith, they are really subpar. His Corsi jumps over 13.5% without Smith, his Goals For jumps over 50% (!!!!) without Smith, and this is solidified by his expected Goals For jumping over 40%. And if you want to look even a little closer, his high danger attempts jump almost 30% when playing without Smith. It’s almost like Luke is a completely different player when playing without Smith.
Luke Hughes Shined Bright Thursday Without Brendan Smith - ( New Window )
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Here is the funny thing about Laine.
as an 18-year old rookie he put up 36 goals and 64 points with WIN and a lot of Rangers fans pointed to that season as why Lafreniere was a failure and a bust.
Who trades Lafreniere (a far more complete player) for Laine now (who is still just 25 years old)? No one, that's who.
everyone wants everything immediately. sometimes patience pays off.
it was stupid, and it's not over, but successful hockey teams aren't built on the Laine's of the world IMO. They are built on players like Lafreniere - who needs to improve his production like he's doing so far this year, but I think you get my point.
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- 4 national teams (US, CAN, SWE, FIN)
- Zero Russians
- Chance USA and Canada play 3 times
- Next proper World Cup might not be until 2028.
I read (per Elliotte) he has met with DAL and TOR, but those two seem unlikely.
I read (per Elliotte) he has met with DAL and TOR, but those two seem unlikely.
Makes sense from the local hero standpoint, but I figured he'd be more help to a team that's more in contention. I guess they figure if they're out of it at the deadline they can deal him.
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I read (per Elliotte) he has met with DAL and TOR, but those two seem unlikely.
Makes sense from the local hero standpoint, but I figured he'd be more help to a team that's more in contention. I guess they figure if they're out of it at the deadline they can deal him.
I think the Rangers make the most sense, again, but seems like they need a D more.
I also read BOS mentioned.
Laine has had attitude issues dogging him for a while. but CBJ coach benched Johnny Gaudreau too.
sometimes when your stars aren't producing it's on the stars, but sometimes it's not just on the stars. People don't often understand the role confidence plays in success. I bet there is some sports psychiatrist who has a book on it.
I'd avoid Laine unless it's a salary dump kind of thing.
they are the 3rd worst team in the league right now.
If there is ever a shakeup now is the time to do it.
pj will preach, you don't give up on young talent.
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they are the 3rd worst team in the league right now.
If there is ever a shakeup now is the time to do it.
What's going on with them? Shit defense/goalies?
Goaltending still sucks.
Bouchard has one of the best shots in the league.
Kane is Kane, so good but also sometimes so bad
Hyman is an underrated top 6 piece
RNH is very capable
Nurse is a problem - especially at that contract -
and their D is not deep, but goalie has been a problem since McDavid was a rookie.
EDM should do what PIT does and trade all their draft picks but EDM should trade them for a goalie (Carter Hart?) and veteran D depth.
I do think they'll trade one but none of the Habs three goalies, right now, are starters on a contender IMO. But the Habs D are so young it's hard to truly evaluate them - and they're all doing ok. They'll trade one because all three are in that space of not good enough to start on a contender, but not bad enough to sneak through waivers. So they have to keep three or trade one.
The best one is/was probably Casey DeSmith who they already traded to Vancouver for Tanner Pearson.
I like Montembeault and Primeau but I don't think either would move the needle in EDM. Jake Allen either.
NHL scheduling is weird.
Really impressed with the depth of the Stars 4 lines.
Really impressed with the depth of the Stars 4 lines.
Dallas was my dark horse last year in September. I thought they were better than Vegas and Colorado.
EDM should do what PIT does and trade all their draft picks but EDM should trade them for a goalie (Carter Hart?) and veteran D depth.
If Hart is really available then NJ has to acquire him. At this point I would be willing to trade Vanecek, Holtz, and a 1st.
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EDM should do what PIT does and trade all their draft picks but EDM should trade them for a goalie (Carter Hart?) and veteran D depth.
If Hart is really available then NJ has to acquire him. At this point I would be willing to trade Vanecek, Holtz, and a 1st.
Flyers are in 2nd place in the metro, but it's "fools gold", I don't think they're good and they have 3 more games played than 3rd place (WAS - also not good) and 1 more than 4th place (CAR) who are both one point behind them.
I know it's ridiculously early to think this way, but 4 points (2 games) separates 2nd place from 7th place in the metro with games in hand all over the place.
IOW, if I were PHI I'd sell on Carter Hart, but they may not agree.
Not much separates them…
Stars average age of the roster is 1.5 years older than the Rangers.
Stars have veteran presence in guys like Pavelski, but their core is similar to NYR. Heck, their star Jason Robertson is 24, Wyatt Johnson is 20. Roope Hintz (27) (would have probably been Conn Smythe if DAL won and he is younger than Kreider, and Panarin) so is Seguin (31), Heiskanen (24).
I think like the Rangers, the Stars have a good mix of youth and veterans - just their veterans, like Pavelski, will require some monitoring.
And Igor is 3 years older than Otter in net.
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Chicago has announced that Taylor Hall will have season-ending knee surgery.
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Corey Perry, who was scratched last night as a mysterious "organizational" decision, is not on the ice for Blackhawks practice.
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Chicago has announced that Taylor Hall will have season-ending knee surgery.
It's a shame. The season after he won the Hart he injured his knee in like December, the Devils pulled their usual "day to day" and we never saw him again that season. He hasn't been the same since. I'm sure he'll fight his way back but he'll never be more than a shell of his old self.
Ken Holland is not the guy.
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Friedman on 32TP: "I honestly believe that the Oilers are going to try and weather this as much as they can without doing anything they're going to regret for generations"
Of the three MTL goalies, Montembeault is the one I'd least want to trade and getting Campbell back makes no sense so I doubt it.
being discuss in intermission of the Habs Sharks game by Sharks announcers. I put blockbuster in quotes because I do think Sammy is an up and coming goalie (at 27 years old) but I don't know he is who i would target if I was EDM and need a "win now" goalie.
Yzerman pushing the right buttons (so far).
Of the three MTL goalies, Montembeault is the one I'd least want to trade and getting Campbell back makes no sense so I doubt it.
being discuss in intermission of the Habs Sharks game by Sharks announcers. I put blockbuster in quotes because I do think Sammy is an up and coming goalie (at 27 years old) but I don't know he is who i would target if I was EDM and need a "win now" goalie.
That doesn't make any sense for Montreal unless a 2nd round draft pick is also coming to Montreal. I am not suggesting that Montembeault is a good starting goalie but Campbell is worse, older, and has a terrible contract.
When Brunette landed the Nashville HC job I was extremely disappointed and I mentioned how I was concerned that he played a big part in the Devils surprising success last season. Now I am not saying that is the reason why the Devils have played so poorly but it certainly is one of the factors IMO.
I won't go into a Ruff rant again but once again he is proving that he is not the right man to lead this franchise. The Devils need to turn the season around quickly and the first move I would make is to acquire a goaltender. If they still struggle then it is time to consider a change at HC. Travis Green is not the right choice either.
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I don't like proclaiming "rock bottom" because as Eric says things can always get worse but if there's a lower point than then scoring 1 lousy goal vs Columbus at home then I don't wanna be around for it. Team looks clueless out there. Yeah the defense is bad but they slept walked through 2 periods offensively then came on with 23 shots in the 3rd but couldn't put one in. They're pretty much imitating the Panthers season last year. Let's hope it ends similarly.
When Brunette landed the Nashville HC job I was extremely disappointed and I mentioned how I was concerned that he played a big part in the Devils surprising success last season. Now I am not saying that is the reason why the Devils have played so poorly but it certainly is one of the factors IMO.
I won't go into a Ruff rant again but once again he is proving that he is not the right man to lead this franchise. The Devils need to turn the season around quickly and the first move I would make is to acquire a goaltender. If they still struggle then it is time to consider a change at HC. Travis Green is not the right choice either.
Yeah Jay they really miss Brunette. Also Severson. He was an underrated puck mover. They're D looks lost in the defensive zone and it's not the kids as much as Siegenthaler and Marino have to play better though Luke and Bahl were shaky today.