who was the minor league pitcher at the end of last year who got injured at the end, and what was his injury? I am drawing a blank, and googling injured Mets pitchers will lead to 50,000 results.
who was the minor league pitcher at the end of last year who got injured at the end, and what was his injury? I am drawing a blank, and googling injured Mets pitchers will lead to 50,000 results.
Thanks in advance.
Scott got hurt and we thought it was bad but he ended up coming back to pitch.
via trade when you can get him for free next offseason for cash only.
Or another team trades for him and signs him to an extension. I couldn't disagree more. Soto is a game changer, and one of the best hitters in baseball. Just turned 25 and has a lifetime .946 OPS. He has a game that should age well IMO. I'd trade for him and sign him to a 12 year extension in a second.
who was the minor league pitcher at the end of last year who got injured at the end, and what was his injury? I am drawing a blank, and googling injured Mets pitchers will lead to 50,000 results.
Thanks in advance.
Scott got hurt and we thought it was bad but he ended up coming back to pitch.
Thanks. Thought it was Scott, but I had thought it was more serious.
What kind of package would it take to get Soto from the Padres ??
Knowing that the Padres had to get a Loan to make payroll last September and will not be able to afford Juan Soto next year....what could the Mets offer in a deal. I think the Padres have got enough infielders as it stands now. They might want some cost-controlled pitching. The Mets have some interesting arms in the high Minor Leagues.
What might it take to get him to CitiField ??
I had proposed Parada and Acuna. I think that's fair. I'd rather stay away from trading Vasil/Tidwell/Scott, but if say Parada/Clifford/and another pitcher got it done, I'd do that.
Really would want to keep Jett and Gilbert on the minor league end.
I would do that deal....Parada keeps lowering his value as a Catcher. He may have to find a new position. I might even add one of the mentioned Pitchers to make it happen.
Jett is a Keeper, maybe as a CF in the Bigs. The 'Verlander Outfielders' are worth keeping too.
via trade when you can get him for free next offseason for cash only.
Or another team trades for him and signs him to an extension. I couldn't disagree more. Soto is a game changer, and one of the best hitters in baseball. Just turned 25 and has a lifetime .946 OPS. He has a game that should age well IMO. I'd trade for him and sign him to a 12 year extension in a second.
He's hitting free agency no matter who trades for him. Mets can just sign him for free in one year. I'm not trading three top prospects and continuing to build a poorly constructed roster with massive bloat of salary for a few players and nothing else.
Is having a truly brutal AFL and the Padres have the best C prospect in baseball. That would be a very surprising player for them to target.
Then substitute players of equivalent rankings. Acuna/Clifford/lesser pitcher besides top 3-4; Acuna/one of the SP/Ramirez or similar other prospect. Whatever.
Mets RHP prospect Dominic Hamel finished the year strong!
Final 9 starts:
48 IP/1.88 ERA/.189 BA/61 K(32.4%)/17 BB(9%)
FB: 93-97 w/20 inches of IVB
Mixes a SL and Cutter with a distinct curve.
Could debut in 2024.
Me-(Hamel still probably 60/40 ends up in the BP but if he can throw strikes he has #4 SP potential)
including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Gray, 34 next season and will cost picks for a team but is quietly one of the more consistent SP in baseball. No surprise the Braves would be interested
including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Jett is the Mets best prospect. Writers just haven't realized yet it like us here.
including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Jett is the Mets best prospect. Writers just haven't realized yet it like us here.
Think it’s clear they have 3 top guys in some order and the debates really become interesting at 4. I’m not including guys like Baty/Mauricio. Just players still in the minors. I’m guessing most sites would have Clifford next, but I’m sure some think Parada deserves another year before docking him too much, Houck. Don’t know that there is a great argument for anybody else in that group though I’m exceptionally high on Scott if his arm can hold up. Ramirez had an awful season but it’s still one season, so like Parada (who was more meh than awful like Ramirez but is a little older than Ramirez) you hold out hope he bounces back. Vargas is probably a lower upside guy but has a real ability to hit and that’s not nothing. I like Tidwell/Vasil, but look like decent backend or BP guys (we shall see). Sproat? Who knows? Should be an interesting 2024
kind of a Gallo type with not as much power, but a (hopefully better hit tool: average hit tool at 50 per MLB pipeline)
I could easily see him being a very valuable corner OF. Hitting .240 or whatever, but with 30+ HRs. Or I could easily see him busting out. You never know with prospects, but with him I just have no idea.
Is having a truly brutal AFL and the Padres have the best C prospect in baseball. That would be a very surprising player for them to target.
Brutal is being kind. Wife & I just got back from seeing 4 games of the Desert Dogs. I have no idea how Parada was drafted #1. Sure, he had excellent Division 1 stats, but I was flabbergasted at how bad he was.
Guys stealing bases left & right. Parada's many throwing errors. Scouts had him as a 40 arm...that might be generous also.
Other catching skills looked OK, but his bat was under .200 and very soft, weak contact. In the 3 games we saw, a lot swings & misses, K's, and weak contact. Tired? long season? nursing an injury?
T. McLoughlin looked good...JT Schwartz was hitter of the week while we were there, but then tailed off.
pads would get a player they can insert right away plus a quality AA prospect. if pushed to do gilbert or acuna instead of parada it's probably a give you make. maybe you kick in $+marte too and the pads figure it's a "free" name player they can sell since he was an all star just a year ago.
nimmo - lindor - soto - alonso 1-4 is worth it.
mcneil - alvarez - baty 5-7 is solid with upside.
8-9 mauricio or vientos will still be around. maybe you sign a canha type to compliment stewart.
it's not exactly similar, but once upon a time stearns rightly saw yelich as a uniquely worth it bat to be aggressive for. soto is maybe the closest position player since.
the only counterargument is why not just sign ohtani "free"? that makes it a lot easier to trade assets for burnes if nec.
What kind of package would it take to get Soto from the Padres ??
Knowing that the Padres had to get a Loan to make payroll last September and will not be able to afford Juan Soto next year....what could the Mets offer in a deal. I think the Padres have got enough infielders as it stands now. They might want some cost-controlled pitching. The Mets have some interesting arms in the high Minor Leagues.
What might it take to get him to CitiField ??
I had proposed Parada and Acuna. I think that's fair. I'd rather stay away from trading Vasil/Tidwell/Scott, but if say Parada/Clifford/and another pitcher got it done, I'd do that.
Really would want to keep Jett and Gilbert on the minor league end.
I would do that deal....Parada keeps lowering his value as a Catcher. He may have to find a new position. I might even add one of the mentioned Pitchers to make it happen.
Jett is a Keeper, maybe as a CF in the Bigs. The 'Verlander Outfielders' are worth keeping too.
Very cool you got to attend games. The Mets sent a very uninteresting group this year. Mostly organizational filler + Parada + Jordan and Schwartz
We try to go every year as we live in Las Vegas, so just a 4 1/2 hour drive. We went the year Alonso hit 53 in his rookie season specifically to see if the scouts were right/wrong re: his defense being OK. Within two games, I turned to my wife and said loudly (we sit in or close to the scouts), Pete is MLB ready! A couple of scouts turned and nodded yes.
I'm an ex shortstop and my wife's first husband was a shortstop in the minor league SF Giants org, so we know a bit about infield play.
this site claims to be about 90%+ accurate evaluating real trades
including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
I'm an admitted prospect hugger but there's no way I'm trading Acuna. He's close to the majors, developing power, great speed, and those bloodlines. I simply wouldn't trade him, I think he's a key part of the Mets' future. This team needs speed and we are seeing a real speed movement in baseball.
including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
I'm an admitted prospect hugger but there's no way I'm trading Acuna. He's close to the majors, developing power, great speed, and those bloodlines. I simply wouldn't trade him, I think he's a key part of the Mets' future. This team needs speed and we are seeing a real speed movement in baseball.
I like Acuna a lot as well. Soto is one of the few I trade him for. Still have Jett, Mauricio. If they don’t trade him great, I agree Acuna and Jett and Mauricio would provide a ton of excitement.
Eric the only issue with Ohtani is the ton of options he has
Mets no guarantee to get him even if high bidder. Plus DH only. But you do what you can to clear room for a player like that. Vientos/Parada almost definitely become trade bait at that point, hopefully for pitching.
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I just read that Kevin Parada and JT Schwartz were selected to the Arizona Fall League All Star game to be played this Sunday at 8:00 EST. The game will be televised on MLB.com.
Mets no guarantee to get him even if high bidder. Plus DH only. But you do what you can to clear room for a player like that. Vientos/Parada almost definitely become trade bait at that point, hopefully for pitching.
think i said this in a diff post than the one you are responding to but the only way you dont go for soto is if ohtani has at that point communicated he wants to come to the mets. i agree with you, 0 guarantee at this point that's the mets so you have to pursue soto unless that somehow changes.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Scott got hurt and we thought it was bad but he ended up coming back to pitch.
Whatever it costs, it will be a lot
What antics?
Or another team trades for him and signs him to an extension. I couldn't disagree more. Soto is a game changer, and one of the best hitters in baseball. Just turned 25 and has a lifetime .946 OPS. He has a game that should age well IMO. I'd trade for him and sign him to a 12 year extension in a second.
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who was the minor league pitcher at the end of last year who got injured at the end, and what was his injury? I am drawing a blank, and googling injured Mets pitchers will lead to 50,000 results.
Thanks in advance.
Scott got hurt and we thought it was bad but he ended up coming back to pitch.
Thanks. Thought it was Scott, but I had thought it was more serious.
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All right all you GM's out there --
What kind of package would it take to get Soto from the Padres ??
Knowing that the Padres had to get a Loan to make payroll last September and will not be able to afford Juan Soto next year....what could the Mets offer in a deal. I think the Padres have got enough infielders as it stands now. They might want some cost-controlled pitching. The Mets have some interesting arms in the high Minor Leagues.
What might it take to get him to CitiField ??
I had proposed Parada and Acuna. I think that's fair. I'd rather stay away from trading Vasil/Tidwell/Scott, but if say Parada/Clifford/and another pitcher got it done, I'd do that.
Really would want to keep Jett and Gilbert on the minor league end.
I would do that deal....Parada keeps lowering his value as a Catcher. He may have to find a new position. I might even add one of the mentioned Pitchers to make it happen.
Jett is a Keeper, maybe as a CF in the Bigs. The 'Verlander Outfielders' are worth keeping too.
CF Nimmo
RF Soto
SS Lindor
1B Alonso
C Alvarez
DH Vientos
2B McNeil
3B Mauricio/Baty
LF Stewart
Switch up 5-9 depending on who is hot.
In 2 years, McNeil to bench and Stewart gone. Jett and Gilbert in.
LF Nimmo
RF Soto
SS Lindor
1B Alonso
C Alvarez
DH Vientos
3B Mauricio/Baty
CF Gilbert
2B Jett
Not bad at all.
(Bummer, I had heard he was potentially up for the GM job, beyond highly thought of)
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via trade when you can get him for free next offseason for cash only.
Or another team trades for him and signs him to an extension. I couldn't disagree more. Soto is a game changer, and one of the best hitters in baseball. Just turned 25 and has a lifetime .946 OPS. He has a game that should age well IMO. I'd trade for him and sign him to a 12 year extension in a second.
He's hitting free agency no matter who trades for him. Mets can just sign him for free in one year. I'm not trading three top prospects and continuing to build a poorly constructed roster with massive bloat of salary for a few players and nothing else.
Sorry.
My assumption from day one is he's less likely to be a Met, than likely. But you gotta take your best shot and try to come to "terms"
Then substitute players of equivalent rankings. Acuna/Clifford/lesser pitcher besides top 3-4; Acuna/one of the SP/Ramirez or similar other prospect. Whatever.
Mets RHP prospect Dominic Hamel finished the year strong!
Final 9 starts:
48 IP/1.88 ERA/.189 BA/61 K(32.4%)/17 BB(9%)
FB: 93-97 w/20 inches of IVB
Mixes a SL and Cutter with a distinct curve.
Could debut in 2024.
Me-(Hamel still probably 60/40 ends up in the BP but if he can throw strikes he has #4 SP potential)
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Sonny I assume? Jon Gray isn't a FA
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Jett is the Mets best prospect. Writers just haven't realized yet it like us here.
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including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
Jett is the Mets best prospect. Writers just haven't realized yet it like us here.
I agree, and we all know Dan does.
I could easily see him being a very valuable corner OF. Hitting .240 or whatever, but with 30+ HRs. Or I could easily see him busting out. You never know with prospects, but with him I just have no idea.
I missed Hendriks had actual TJ, thought it was arthroscopic.
Brutal is being kind. Wife & I just got back from seeing 4 games of the Desert Dogs. I have no idea how Parada was drafted #1. Sure, he had excellent Division 1 stats, but I was flabbergasted at how bad he was.
Guys stealing bases left & right. Parada's many throwing errors. Scouts had him as a 40 arm...that might be generous also.
Other catching skills looked OK, but his bat was under .200 and very soft, weak contact. In the 3 games we saw, a lot swings & misses, K's, and weak contact. Tired? long season? nursing an injury?
T. McLoughlin looked good...JT Schwartz was hitter of the week while we were there, but then tailed off.
nimmo - lindor - soto - alonso 1-4 is worth it.
mcneil - alvarez - baty 5-7 is solid with upside.
8-9 mauricio or vientos will still be around. maybe you sign a canha type to compliment stewart.
it's not exactly similar, but once upon a time stearns rightly saw yelich as a uniquely worth it bat to be aggressive for. soto is maybe the closest position player since.
the only counterargument is why not just sign ohtani "free"? that makes it a lot easier to trade assets for burnes if nec.
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All right all you GM's out there --
What kind of package would it take to get Soto from the Padres ??
Knowing that the Padres had to get a Loan to make payroll last September and will not be able to afford Juan Soto next year....what could the Mets offer in a deal. I think the Padres have got enough infielders as it stands now. They might want some cost-controlled pitching. The Mets have some interesting arms in the high Minor Leagues.
What might it take to get him to CitiField ??
I had proposed Parada and Acuna. I think that's fair. I'd rather stay away from trading Vasil/Tidwell/Scott, but if say Parada/Clifford/and another pitcher got it done, I'd do that.
Really would want to keep Jett and Gilbert on the minor league end.
I would do that deal....Parada keeps lowering his value as a Catcher. He may have to find a new position. I might even add one of the mentioned Pitchers to make it happen.
Jett is a Keeper, maybe as a CF in the Bigs. The 'Verlander Outfielders' are worth keeping too.
No to Soto. Doesn’t fit
We try to go every year as we live in Las Vegas, so just a 4 1/2 hour drive. We went the year Alonso hit 53 in his rookie season specifically to see if the scouts were right/wrong re: his defense being OK. Within two games, I turned to my wife and said loudly (we sit in or close to the scouts), Pete is MLB ready! A couple of scouts turned and nodded yes.
I'm an ex shortstop and my wife's first husband was a shortstop in the minor league SF Giants org, so we know a bit about infield play.
for a reminder of those who think soto is some kind of bad fit.
vientos - entering his age 24
mauricio - entering his age 23
parada - entering his age 22
soto - turned 25 last week
unless shohei ohtani has communicated that he wants to be a met, a reasonable trade for soto is a no brainer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
I'm an admitted prospect hugger but there's no way I'm trading Acuna. He's close to the majors, developing power, great speed, and those bloodlines. I simply wouldn't trade him, I think he's a key part of the Mets' future. This team needs speed and we are seeing a real speed movement in baseball.
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for a reminder of those who think soto is some kind of bad fit.
vientos - entering his age 24
mauricio - entering his age 23
parada - entering his age 22
soto - turned 25 last week
unless shohei ohtani has communicated that he wants to be a met, a reasonable trade for soto is a no brainer.
when I say bad fit, i dont mean it as a performance/age fit.
I mean it as a state of franchise fit.
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including Acuna (who is the Mets top ranked prospect and similar skill set/position with Jett), and a 3rd flyer.
For one of the top prospects, a guy like Baty/Vientos/Mauricio could be in the discussion, though I'd balk at giving up both Acuna and Mauricio for a player on the last year of his contract.
I'm an admitted prospect hugger but there's no way I'm trading Acuna. He's close to the majors, developing power, great speed, and those bloodlines. I simply wouldn't trade him, I think he's a key part of the Mets' future. This team needs speed and we are seeing a real speed movement in baseball.
I like Acuna a lot as well. Soto is one of the few I trade him for. Still have Jett, Mauricio. If they don’t trade him great, I agree Acuna and Jett and Mauricio would provide a ton of excitement.
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Cuban RHP Yariel Rodriguez (26) was declared free agent by MLB, per sources.
He is eligible to sign with an MLB team starting today.
I just read that Kevin Parada and JT Schwartz were selected to the Arizona Fall League All Star game to be played this Sunday at 8:00 EST. The game will be televised on MLB.com.
Rory -- I wish you'd expand on your 'bad fit' assessment of Soto. His OPS is always over 900, and he's only 25 years old.
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vientos instead of mauricio is almost exactly even bc vientos' value is lower than mauricio's.
for a reminder of those who think soto is some kind of bad fit.
vientos - entering his age 24
mauricio - entering his age 23
parada - entering his age 22
soto - turned 25 last week
unless shohei ohtani has communicated that he wants to be a met, a reasonable trade for soto is a no brainer.
when I say bad fit, i dont mean it as a performance/age fit.
I mean it as a state of franchise fit.
how's he a bad state of the franchise fit?
are the mets moving on from lindor, senga, nimmo, mcneil, diaz? or are they trying to build up that core?
soto is one of the top players in the sport and 25 years old. the only franchises he's a bad fit for are the ones who cant afford him.
think i said this in a diff post than the one you are responding to but the only way you dont go for soto is if ohtani has at that point communicated he wants to come to the mets. i agree with you, 0 guarantee at this point that's the mets so you have to pursue soto unless that somehow changes.
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Cuban RHP Yariel Rodriguez (26) was declared free agent by MLB, per sources.
He is eligible to sign with an MLB team starting today.
Two sources I've spoken to both like him as a potential bullpen piece but the buzz is will beyond the facts league wide.
Rory -- I wish you'd expand on your 'bad fit' assessment of Soto. His OPS is always over 900, and he's only 25 years old.
1B and looked good, comfortable there.
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A bat like Soto would be a big upgrade but we wont get there until we have 2-3 healthy front line starters.
So if Yamamoto is a Met few months from now, we can revisit this.
9 IP, 9 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 14 K, 138 pitches unreal
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The guy is 25 and will be here for his prime years if they sign him.
9 IP, 9 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 14 K, 138 pitches unreal
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Boca -- Where has JT Schwartz been playing in the Field. I know he's got first baseman's glove and some outfield burn.
Rory -- I wish you'd expand on your 'bad fit' assessment of Soto. His OPS is always over 900, and he's only 25 years old.
1B and looked good, comfortable there.
The problem is he doesn’t look like he has the pop you want from a 1B
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The guy is 25 and will be here for his prime years if they sign him.
9 IP, 9 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 14 K, 138 pitches unreal