Let's forget 1st round pick - 2nd round discussion

Actually, almost anything works. Maybe even another QB as well.

Would be my focus with picks 1, 2 and 2 depending on where we land in the order and who's available.

IOL would be in play in rounds 3 and 4.

imo.

In comment 16286995 Jim in Forest Hills said:

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imo.

+1

QB in round one, guard (Snee) in round two.

Perfect spot for interior OL.

I'd almost prefer we get experienced OL help (Guard and swing Tackle) in FA if possible as rolling the dice with more rookies seems to be a crapshoot.

Edge, DT & Safety are definitely in play though in addition to Guard & WR. We'll have premium picks in Round 2 and so key is not to force it.

Land a top QB in round 1 then an OL in round 2. If the plan is to move Neal to guard then an OT needs to be a priority with one of the three day 2 picks. Ideally need and value will meet up and the giants will come out of day 2 with three out of the following positions, G/OT, ER, DT, WR. Then on day 3 I hope they draft another OL early on.

In comment 16287004 BigTymer said:

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I'd almost prefer we get experienced OL help (Guard and swing Tackle) in FA if possible as rolling the dice with more rookies seems to be a crapshoot. Edge, DT & Safety are definitely in play though in addition to Guard & WR. We'll have premium picks in Round 2 and so key is not to force it.

See I disagree, we are in full rebuild mode now. Maybe find one older vet for the OL to bring leadership. However, we are going to need two OG and possibly a RT since Neal has been absolutely awful.

it seems like they might be available in the second round. Hard to pass on what might be a generational sure thing than to miss on another first round pick. Lots of examples in the past few years. Not that I know what they think of Marvin Harrison Jr., but he does look mazingly good. Without the best QB in college football throwing to him,

We need everything and anything.

The giants will add a good veteran starting Guard in free agency especially if they draft a RT on day 2 to start. Having a stable veteran next to who will play next to the rookie for several years would help stabilize the line and provide help to the young RT.

to draft an Olineman in the second round and turn him into a productive player. It is a blind spot for this organization and has been for 10 years. Andrew Thomas is the exception that proves the rule.

Look to free agency to fill out the Oline. We need guys this staff can't fuck up because they are already decent. Spend the picks on premium positions like QB, WR and Edge.

And please, please, please do not spend a second round pick on another 5'8" slot receiver...

We need a swing tackle but....Giants have 2 tackles taken in the 1st round and a 2nd round center. Safeties and Guards can be found 3rd or 4th round. Also, blocking Tight end is needed. If your going to keep Barkley you need a great blocking TE to get him outside. I think Neal will develop but i actually questioned spending the 7th pick on a right tackle even though I thought it was the right move since he was so highly rated and the OL was a mess. K was hoping they would trade down but that was the year the QB talent was poor.

2nd round is often about who falls. Its so early we dont know who will rise in the last games. Lots of holes to fill so you definitely know there will be somebody at the top of round 2 who was considered a 1st round pick that they will pull the trigger on.. Who knows what position it will be.

Rhe bottom line is .... This team will never get better unless they start nailing there middle and low round picks. Great drafts are made on day 3.

Let's go qb again in case they whiff on the qb in the 1st

and no other real QB help, is picking a bust of a QB with a high pick. If we end up with a pick in the #4-#6 range (it's a bigger possibility than most think with our remaining schedule) and they want to take Harrison, I'm okay with it.

If we're picking at the top then by all means, run to the podium and take a QB, but don't force a QB just because the need is so big. Come away from the draft with raising the talent level of the team. Add talent at premium positions. Can't have another draft where we come away with little.

OG would be awesome pick in 2nd round followed by Trey Benson RB in 3rd round

nobody that is stressing their desire that the Giants draft a QB in the first is suggesting they do that regardless of their scouting. I don't think a single person here is suggesting they just take the best QB on the board when it is their turn, even if they have a 3rd round grade on him.

If they are picking in the top 2-3 they should be able to sit tight and get someone they like. From 4-10 they should be looking to try and trade up for a guy they like if they don't think one will fall. Only if they can't get to a QB worth a high first should they go elsewhere and then look in the 2nd/3rd round for a guy to develop.

So we’ll need to draft well AND use FA to target starters. Maybe not long term starters for the latter, but you can realistically say we need help in these areas:
QB, RT, OG, WR, TE, Edge, CB unless Hawkins progresses, FS if XM leaves.

Point being there are so many holes we have to look beyond the draft. FA, even if limited bc of cap, willl be important. We’ll need to find some hidden value.

But yes, I'd love to get an alpha at WR. Assuming MHJ, Keon Coleman and Rome Odunze all go in Round 1, my eyes are on South Carolina's Xavier Legette.

Let the board work and scouting process do it’s job. Over the next 3-4 months.

In comment 16287207 Anakim said:

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But yes, I'd love to get an alpha at WR. Assuming MHJ, Keon Coleman and Rome Odunze all go in Round 1, my eyes are on South Carolina's Xavier Legette.

Brian Thomas Jr. of LSU is another one

Need more pressure and Ojulari is a walking wounded and KT can be contained by himself. Need another solid pass rusher. Last night was a prime example of a QB getting all day to sit back and find receivers open.

Any team breaking in a new QB will need the D to be a strength. We are lacking in Pass Rushers. Give me an edge and 2 way DT that can rush and isn't a NT type (like Riley and Davidson)

McKinney looks to be gone given the rough patch he's had.

Javon Bullard of Georgia or Calen Bullock of USC would be awesome

(If QB is 1st round pick of course)

WR:

LSU’s Brian Thomas Jr is def rising up draft boards, but he’s someone I’m very intrigued by. Big, fast and strong hands…all upside IMO

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Brian-ThomasJr-WR-LSU

OL:

Cooper Beebee from K State isn’t the most athletic guy, but he reminds me of Joel Bitonio coming out. Super versatile and solid OLman that can stabilize a number of positions for us.

[url] https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Cooper-Beebe-OL-KansasState[\url]

Legette (WR) from S. Carolina looks like an AJ Brown type talent. Guy is a physical specimen…