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HammerTime75 : 11/13/2023 11:55 am
Before I go there, let me acknowledge that trading draft capital for a backup QB is a total non-starter for where the Giants are right now. We all would've called for Schoen's head had they actually done such a deal.

But, for discussion's sake, say it was the Giants who paid the price to get him and not the Vikings. Are we any better off than we are now? He seems to be capable of making things happen both by run and pass without much familiarity with the offense over there.
I don’t disagree, but getting a decent backup  
Section331 : 11/13/2023 11:58 am : link
for a late round pick swap is as cheap a deal as you can make.
Better than DeVito, sure  
UConn4523 : 11/13/2023 12:01 pm : link
but not good enough to salvage the season. And at this point I just want a top 2 pick so that’s pretty much all that matters as far as the roster is concerned.
He’s also a UFA  
UConn4523 : 11/13/2023 12:02 pm : link
so he’s not going to be dirt cheap after this year.
We are not  
AJ23 : 11/13/2023 12:15 pm : link
and I cannot stress this enough - healthy enough to protect ANY quarterback.

The Vikings have a top offensive line this year because they have been able to stay relatively healthy. Offensive lines can take one guy going down at a time, they can't take multiple.

Darrisaw (8/10 games) and O'Neill (10/10 games) have been two things no Giants tackle has been this year: available and great - Darrisaw is the top o-linemen per PFF, at least as of a week ago. Their interior has stayed healthy, too: Bradbury (7/10 games), Cleveland (7/10 games), Ingram (10/10 games)
This kind of thinking  
jvm52106 : 11/13/2023 12:18 pm : link
makes me laugh. Look at Minnesota:

Hockenson
Jefferson- when healthy
Addison
Ackers
Maddison
Osborn

plus a pretty decent Oline (when fully healthy)..

Dobbs with our group, our Oline would be less than Taylor...
Dobbs  
nochance : 11/13/2023 1:13 pm : link
The last thing this team needs at this time is a journeyman QB to win 2 or so games and take out of the running for the top QB's. With DJ's neck and other injuries we need his full time replacement
RE: This kind of thinking  
BillT : 11/13/2023 1:14 pm : link
In comment 16287391 jvm52106 said:
Quote:
makes me laugh. Look at Minnesota:

Hockenson
Jefferson- when healthy
Addison
Ackers
Maddison
Osborn

plus a pretty decent Oline (when fully healthy)..

Dobbs with our group, our Oline would be less than Taylor...

Exactly. When you have time and open WRs you can look pretty good. Been at least 10 years since the Giants had that.
I  
jtfuoco : 11/13/2023 3:10 pm : link
Would like use this as an example to argue the narrative that a QB can't be brought in because it will takes weeks upon weeks to learn the offens and will not be any better then a UDFA QB sitting on the pratice squad. As you keep hearing on BBI and as for the Giants that may be a true statement but for a well run organization I don't think its true.
RE: I  
Giantsbigblue : 11/13/2023 3:17 pm : link
In comment 16287661 jtfuoco said:
Quote:
Would like use this as an example to argue the narrative that a QB can't be brought in because it will takes weeks upon weeks to learn the offens and will not be any better then a UDFA QB sitting on the pratice squad. As you keep hearing on BBI and as for the Giants that may be a true statement but for a well run organization I don't think its true.


You will get called an idiot. Not even worth it.
Dobbs  
Giantsbigblue : 11/13/2023 3:20 pm : link
Has been impressive breaking tackles and finding the open man. Maybe they simplified the offense, but it is working for now. Would love to have him here as a back up or bridge qb. Can't question his compete level if you've watched him play.
Giants/kafka’s  
thrunthrublue : 11/13/2023 3:23 pm : link
Single wing offense is so archaic broadcast should switch to black and white 4x3 anspect ratio and add digital scratches and tinny audio.
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Go Terps : 11/13/2023 3:25 pm : link
The better question is why didn't the Giants just acquire him before the season instead of paying Jones.

Oh that's right; the Giants may have found that a tough sell to the fanbase.

The Giants are about to learn (again) what a tough sell is during these last four remaining home games.
Meh  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/13/2023 3:27 pm : link
Jets fans have a reason to be way more pissed about this than we do.

At best, the Giants would have finished 3rd in the NFC East.
Draft better  
Simms : 11/13/2023 4:30 pm : link
We need a few seasons of quality drafts. Not easy to do as it's harder than it seems.
RE: I  
BrettNYG10 : 11/13/2023 4:34 pm : link
In comment 16287661 jtfuoco said:
Quote:
Would like use this as an example to argue the narrative that a QB can't be brought in because it will takes weeks upon weeks to learn the offens and will not be any better then a UDFA QB sitting on the pratice squad. As you keep hearing on BBI and as for the Giants that may be a true statement but for a well run organization I don't think its true.


This argument may have made sense when you had complicated offenses (like Gilbride's a decade ago), but not now when most offenses are much simpler. It's a bit of a silly argument, guys don't need years to marinate in systems to produce.
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