Reporters getting bent out of shape over Dexter

our media members suck ass.

Theres a few decent ones. But they are all mostly hacks looking for clicks.

what a depressing profession, just behind paparazzi at this point.

the beats could try to pick on, this is the stupidest. Guy is always nice.

Wish we could post our distain for the beats picking on Dex in some manner they could see it.

WHO THE FUCK CARES. The Giants need to adopt this philosophy --within reason. I am not saying to tell the media off or burn every bridge down. I am not saying to blow them off. But why are always so worried about what the media says? I literally couldn't care less. We just want to win and that's all that matters.

Blood in the water? Big fucking deal WTF is the media going to do that is worse than 49-17? Are they gonna make the fan base stay in droves or is the product on the field going to dictate things.

in that response. He had every right to call them all out much more harshly than he did and showed restraint. Top notch man and player.

going after a wounded animal. Their job is to get clicks and controversy, and the giants' dismal season is giving them plenty of ammunition. Ther is going to be plenty of these kinds of stories the rest of the way.

questions half of them are stupid and often the same version over and over and we learn nothing.

See Eli Coughlin.. See Simms Parcells.. Now Daboll Meanwhile COTY is going to get more high-level players going into the 3yrd year of the rebuild with a pretty smart GM Schoen.. Who btw the way made the right calls on who to lock up/ bring in and more importantly who NOT to..

BTW Kims lost all credibility with her feelings getting hurt when they rightfully traded Odell away..

but he had plenty of time for his family after the game, that comes across as lame. You are one of the captains, along with McKinney, both didn't talk after the game with the media when they are allowed in the locker room. It's all about accountability, do the right thing, doesn't matter if you don't feel like it. Personally, I've had enough of McKinney,
popping off last week, NOW he doesn't feel like talking?
They can let him go bye bye after the season to me...

In comment 16287381 djm said:

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WHO THE FUCK CARES. The Giants need to adopt this philosophy --within reason. I am not saying to tell the media off or burn every bridge down. I am not saying to blow them off. But why are always so worried about what the media says? I literally couldn't care less. We just want to win and that's all that matters. Blood in the water? Big fucking deal WTF is the media going to do that is worse than 49-17? Are they gonna make the fan base stay in droves or is the product on the field going to dictate things.

Doug, come one. You're smarter than that. This 100% has an effect on the player and team. The media constantly loves to create stories. It hurts their character. It affects voting for pro bowls and all pros. It can affect their income. It can affect so many things. Very few people are rational nowadays. I haven't watched any sports shows in forever because they all suck yet they are still on so people do watch. It 100% affects people's opinions. So, yeah, if the media is creating a story again that hurts his character then he and the Giants should care.

I might have missed it.

What reporter said what?

and we just discovered the news after it's announced by the team or NFL. It's an obsolete middle man in today's world. A bullshit profession.

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but he had plenty of time for his family after the game, that comes across as lame. You are one of the captains, along with McKinney, both didn't talk after the game with the media when they are allowed in the locker room. It's all about accountability, do the right thing, doesn't matter if you don't feel like it. Personally, I've had enough of McKinney, popping off last week, NOW he doesn't feel like talking? They can let him go bye bye after the season to me...

Some guys drafted high that need to go - McKinney, Ojulari. Veterans not worth the coin - Jackson, Barkley. Players we need to upgrade from - Ward, Holmes, Breida, Cager. Special teams guys with no significant added value - Brown, Campbell. Lots of new faces needed Plus, for me the Evan Neal experience is over - move him inside and see if he can become a good IOL; just doesn’t have the feet and balance for OT.

In comment 16287404 widmerseyebrow said:

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and we just discovered the news after it's announced by the team or NFL. It's an obsolete middle man in today's world. A bullshit profession.

It's a waste of time. Besides a person like McKinney, no one else answer's any of the questions honestly. It's all generic crap. Reporters just need to write on what they see with their own eyes.

they are entitled, whiny things

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but he had plenty of time for his family after the game, that comes across as lame. You are one of the captains, along with McKinney, both didn't talk after the game with the media when they are allowed in the locker room. It's all about accountability, do the right thing, doesn't matter if you don't feel like it. Personally, I've had enough of McKinney, popping off last week, NOW he doesn't feel like talking? They can let him go bye bye after the season to me...

Excellent post!

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I might have missed it. What reporter said what?

Originally? They said he was hiding from the media yesterday.

The profession has gone downhill at a steady pace, and quite frankly they all have an agenda, report what is sensationalism, screw the truth. It’s everywhere unfortunately. Fuck ‘em

.goes off the rails, there are those media members that seem to enjoy poking the bear to try and make it worse to generate more content. The role of sports media used to be important, relatively speaking. They were the conduit between team/players/coaches and the customer. Seems like many have lost the thread and treat it more like high school drama.

just in general, the media fear in this town, who cares. They are trolls. Don't feed em.

Silly. I'm with Dex.

the past 10-12 years on the backs of poor teams and poor coaches. They get more clicks from controversy than they do when we are winning.

The hardest part of the next 7 games will be the reporters doing everything they can to tear apart this team and cause a controversy just to get a story.

Oddly I'm noticing a trend with the fans where they're starting to realize that their impatience has pushed some coaches out sooner than it should have been, our beat reporters may have to realize they also may be part of the problem.

If I'm Daboll I address the team this week and make it clear that these guys are going to do whatever they can to make you look bad, just stay focused on playing football and don't let them bait you into anything.

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I saw that Art was trying to beat Pat Leonard to the bottom yesterday. It was a good try, but PL has that spot secure.

In comment 16287388 Carson53 said:

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but he had plenty of time for his family after the game, that comes across as lame. You are one of the captains, along with McKinney, both didn't talk after the game with the media when they are allowed in the locker room. It's all about accountability, do the right thing, doesn't matter if you don't feel like it. Personally, I've had enough of McKinney, popping off last week, NOW he doesn't feel like talking? They can let him go bye bye after the season to me...

Hi, Art!

You are selling, it s very easy to spin everything that occurs to support that narrative

If I were Dex, I d call them out in person at next opportunity

This idea, some here buy into it, that because guys who are getting their asses handed to them on a regular basis shouldn’t be a bit edgy, and that short fuses is somehow even important, might never have spent any time in a locker room.

I loved seeing Shep and Slayton getting into it.

In comment 16287396 robbieballs2003 said:

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So, yeah, if the media is creating a story again that hurts his character then he and the Giants should care.

"...the media is creating..."

That's the problem. There wasn't a story, so Art manufactured one. It's lazy, hacky, bullshit reporting.

Art Stapleton. He makes a few relevant points about how he's a team leader and Eli stood up there and took his medicine. But Dex was in a rush and Art should have reached out to talk to him instead of painting him a poor leader

are reacting to adversity this season is concerning. Losing sucks, especially when you expected to be a playoff team, but you still need to go to work every day and act like a professional. Unfortunately, sometimes work sucks, that doesn't give you license to walk in and start complaining about your co-workers and supervisors.

That being said, Dexter Lawrence is not one of the people doing this. He's played his ass off every game and rarely causes controversy in the locker room. So, I agree the media is just looking to stir shit up here.

It's rather hang with Dex and his family over Art

But he's smart enough to know that there's no way you can 'scold' an NFL player like this when it's obviously directly connected to your own self interest. Guys who have been on the beat this long grow really entitled.

He also tried to explain it as if Dex was making things more difficult for his teammates. So I should believe the motivation here is Art is worried teammates will be upset? Come on. Just say you expected access to a player and didn't get it.

they forgot his toasted tuna sandwich

In comment 16287543 gidiefor said:

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they forgot his toasted tuna sandwich

Rye I'm hoping

and there was certainly no drama in yesterday's game.

I still can’t get over the Giants having 10 captains. Absurd.

and part of the job is being available after games. It's not such a burden.

If the Giants had won this game, Dex could have been absent and nobody would have cared. When your team gets steamrolled and you are a captain of that team, you have to understand how it is going to look when you disappear after the game, regardless of the reason.

If you don't want the media responsibilities it entails, don't sign the contract that requires them. If you sign the contract and take the money, man up and take the stupid questions and then go see your family.

But while we're at it, does it need to be?

Covid kept the writers out of the locker room for two years, and player availabulity was by video conference only. What was lost? Didn't affect fans in any way.

I get why a beat writer is upset. That affects his job. But Art is taking a stand on "dex should be a good teammate" when I simply don't think art is in a position to judge such a thing just because he gets to sit closer than other spectators. He isn't a player, and he doesn't speak for them.

reasonable for a reporter to say in their piece that DL did not make time after the game to answer questions even though he is contractually obligated. It is another to take to social media to cry about like you got stood up for the prom.

or that it makes him a bad teammate. I was just saying it was a legit criticism of him for not being available. Does that make him a bad teammate? Only in the respect that it left others to answer the same questions. But when you have 10 captains...why does it matter if 3 or 4 take off?

Everything about this team and season is baffling.

Kim Jones had some similar questions to Daboll after the loss. She basically said in a round about way that “something feels different” and that “something is off” with this team. Blatantly just asked Daboll if he was losing the team. And then, Jordan piled on and asked about the discussion he had with Wink.

This is what the media does when the Giants start losing, and Daboll is doing a pretty good job of remaining calm and answering their dumb ass questions.

I love how Dex called Art sensitive. Because that’s exactly what he’s doing and how he’s acting to this situation.

but if NYG is 8-2 is this even a story?

With such a colossal failure for a season, I expect the media to be in full pile-on mode...

and this is not the tough NY media. This is what happens to teams that lose. The game is no longer a story, so the team is. This is not something unique to this situation at all.

...but Patty had a very fair take:

Lawrence has been more than generous with his time both during the week and after a game. His point about not having a lot of time after the game to see his family is well taken as well since players are usually encouraged to wrap up their business in the locker room as quickly as possible and board the team buses to catch a charter flight back to their home base.

That Lawrence chose to spend time with his family and friends who had gathered to see him on his birthday isn't a story, especially considering how he played and that other team leaders like inside linebacker Bobby Okereke and running back Saquon Barkley did take time to address reporters.
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In comment 16287775 ryanmkeane said:

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Kim Jones had some similar questions to Daboll after the loss. She basically said in a round about way that “something feels different” and that “something is off” with this team. Blatantly just asked Daboll if he was losing the team. And then, Jordan piled on and asked about the discussion he had with Wink. This is what the media does when the Giants start losing, and Daboll is doing a pretty good job of remaining calm and answering their dumb ass questions.

I was watching the presser and I thought this was a perfectly acceptable line of questioning for the coach of a 2-8 team that just lost 49-17. What is going on? Something is off with the team. Players arguing on the sideline and Daboll and the DC getting into it. Dabs was calm and answered appropriately. Blood is in the water and the only way to get rid of it is to start winning.

In comment 16287404 widmerseyebrow said:

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and we just discovered the news after it's announced by the team or NFL. It's an obsolete middle man in today's world. A bullshit profession.

So you trust Mara and the Giants PR crew to tell you the truth about what is going on inside the building and lockerroom than the media who has eyes on the situation? You do understand the PR team's job is to present the team and its issues in the best light possible, right?

By the way, every NFL contract has a clause requiring the player to cooperate with the media. There is no rider that says except on your birthday.

If Lawrence, one of the most respected captains, who has had nothing but good media coverage, wanted to spend, what, an extra 15 minutes with his family, he should have told the Giants PR staff to tell the media why. Or he could have asked for permission to stay in Dallas and fly back Monday morning.

RDJR - players were not arguing on the sideline. Slayton got pissed and started something with the WR coach and Shep was trying to calm him down. Slayton lost his cool.

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In comment 16287404 widmerseyebrow said: Quote: and we just discovered the news after it's announced by the team or NFL. It's an obsolete middle man in today's world. A bullshit profession. So you trust Mara and the Giants PR crew to tell you the truth about what is going on inside the building and lockerroom than the media who has eyes on the situation?

We don't get the truth as it is. We get what we are allowed to see and what the writers are allowed to see and speak on. Writers typically don't share but a portion of what they know because they depend on having access to the team and that means playing by the rules.

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The profession has gone downhill at a steady pace, and quite frankly they all have an agenda, report what is sensationalism, screw the truth. It’s everywhere unfortunately. Fuck ‘em

One question. Have you ever even met even one reporter? Yet you know everything about how and why they do their job. Do you know how to be an engineer too? Should I hire you to defend me if I ever get arrested? I'm sure you've seen lawyers on TV. In case you didn't know, a reporter's job includes questioning everything.

What's funny is i guess it's okay when people post opinions on here bashing Neal, and McKinney, and the coaches and Mara. But when a reporter shares their opinion about the actions of a team leader who left before speaking to the media, which is part of the player's job for which he makes millions, after an embarrassing thrashing, that's evidence of an agenda?

And this stuff about spending time with his family. Please. It would have taken 10 minutes to answer a couple of questions then say, 'hey. I need to go see my family' (who he undoubtedly saw Saturday). No one would have objected. And I have no doubt the team would have let him stay in Texas Sunday night and fly back Monday morning if he wanted. He can certainly afford it. He could have chartered a private plane.

The question everyone here should consider is would he have rushed out before the media was let in if they had upset the Cowboys. I think he would have had no trouble waiting 15 minutes to see his family while he celebrated with his teammates.