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NFT: Mets to introduce Carlos Mendoza at noon

DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 8:20 am
Today is also the deadline to add players to the 40 man
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Brewers  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 9:00 am : link
Hire Pat Murphy to replace Counsell. He was “my pick” for the Mets before the names of their actual candidates started leaking out. That’s nothing against Mendoza, didn’t even know he was on their radar until he was.
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Named Later : 11/14/2023 9:19 am : link
I recall that you posted a podcast interview with Pat Murphy. Listening to that interview, I came away impressed with the guy. I wish him luck with the Brew Crew, except when he plays the Mendoza Mets.
any inside clue on who  
Rory : 11/14/2023 9:46 am : link
he will name bench coach?

With all this talk about Soto, curious if Ryan Flaherty would be a discussion.

Should we assume Eric Chavez is out too? He did have some time with Yankees as ast. hitting coach so maybe Mendoza has enough history with him to keep him.
RE: any inside clue on who  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 9:55 am : link
In comment 16288548 Rory said:
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he will name bench coach?

With all this talk about Soto, curious if Ryan Flaherty would be a discussion.

Should we assume Eric Chavez is out too? He did have some time with Yankees as ast. hitting coach so maybe Mendoza has enough history with him to keep him.


Puma says they expect to hire an ex-manager. Phil Nevin (who worked with Mendoza) in 2022 (and is up for the Padres managerial job) is one name I’ve heard, Clint Hurdle (might be joining Ron Washington in LA) is another. Doesn’t sound like David Ross is interested in coaching in 2024. Eric Chavez is almost certainly out unless he accepts a “demotion” to a lesser title than bench coach or FO position, though some teams are now carrying “associate managers” as well. Seems unlikely the Mets would do that with a rookie manager however.
RE: any inside clue on who  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 9:57 am : link
In comment 16288548 Rory said:
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he will name bench coach?

With all this talk about Soto, curious if Ryan Flaherty would be a discussion.

Should we assume Eric Chavez is out too? He did have some time with Yankees as ast. hitting coach so maybe Mendoza has enough history with him to keep him.


Chavez was hired by the Yankees to be assistant hitting coach but it never happened as the Mets hired him away about 2 weeks later.
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 9:58 am : link
In comment 16288508 Named Later said:
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I recall that you posted a podcast interview with Pat Murphy. Listening to that interview, I came away impressed with the guy. I wish him luck with the Brew Crew, except when he plays the Mendoza Mets.


Fun to follow Brewers and Cubs considering the Counsell storyline AND Murphy being Counsell’s coach at ND.
RE: RE: any inside clue on who  
Rory : 11/14/2023 10:08 am : link
In comment 16288572 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 16288548 Rory said:


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he will name bench coach?

With all this talk about Soto, curious if Ryan Flaherty would be a discussion.

Should we assume Eric Chavez is out too? He did have some time with Yankees as ast. hitting coach so maybe Mendoza has enough history with him to keep him.



Chavez was hired by the Yankees to be assistant hitting coach but it never happened as the Mets hired him away about 2 weeks later.


ah. I thought he was there the year prior. Ok so no real relationship there then.

Nevin looks like suitable pick. Hopefully he doesnt go to SD.
There  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:22 am : link
Is sort of this false narrative that Showalter was his own man and Mendoza won’t be. (This is in no way a knock on Buck Showalter) but Chavez, Hinske, Barnes, Hefner were all hired and/or promoted by the FO, not picked by Buck Showalter and that’s largely the norm in todays game. Buck brought in Cora, Wayne Kirby and Glenn Sherlock, so he had some say, and I expect that to be what happens with Mendoza. Ex-Mets GM Zack Scott told
me that he felt Jeremy Hefner was an asset to any organization and the Mets looked for ways to give him an even bigger role. Stearns opted to keep him so obviously he feels the same way.
there is a narrative Showalter was his own man?  
KDavies : 11/14/2023 10:28 am : link
wasn't there just news that the front office was shoving Vogelbach down his throat?
this is entirely just reading between lines but eppler and buck  
Eric on Li : 11/14/2023 10:29 am : link
were never totally on the same page, and id probably blame eppler for that more than buck because buck didnt hire himself.

i think buck is a quality manager who still has a stubborn side, is too deferential to veterans, and when things went bad last year didn't handle it well. he just kept waiting on veterans to make turns that didnt happen. neither was the right choice to transition the young players who we all knew we were on the way from before either of them were hired - though im also not sure there were any 'known' better options so it is what it is.

eppler was worse than buck because he was in charge of building org process and his org process was incoherent shit from the deadline of 2022 on. very muddled.
Joel  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:30 am : link
Sherman did a piece where he was now in charge of the Yankees and suggested calling the Mets and offering Jones/King/Hampton. I wouldn't trade Brandon Nimmo, but that's also not a bad package for the Mets. Usually these trade ideas are completely one sided.
RE: there is a narrative Showalter was his own man?  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16288626 KDavies said:
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wasn't there just news that the front office was shoving Vogelbach down his throat?


Yes. The narrative very much is that Showalter was old school, did things his own way etc. But his coaching staff alone (especially in the roles that really matter ie bench coach, hitting coach, pitching coach... not his hires)
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:35 am : link
expect Mendoza to be given the "power" to bring in some of his own guys but the coaching staff will likely largely be Stearns hires.
We  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:36 am : link
could see some trades today before the 40 man deadline. Teams looking to trade players to make room on their 40 and/or players they don't intend to add.
Morosi  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:36 am : link
keeps tweeting about Manuel Margot, hard pass from me. Owed 12 million, declining metrics defensively and not much of a hitter.
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:39 am : link
think Coleman Crow is the only absolute lock to be added today but I expect Jarvis to be added, they probably add Ramirez (though they may roll the dice) and I could see somebody like Suarez and/or Jackson added. I don't expect them to add a bunch of players. If they add more than 4 I'd be pretty surprised.
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:40 am : link
Jeff Young
@BaseballJeff1
Something to watch for today: The Rays have a full 40-man. The Giants and Rays have connected on a few minor 40-man moves in the past. Someone like Kameron Misner could be added or on the move today. TB is a team to watch for trades.
RE: Joel  
Eric on Li : 11/14/2023 10:41 am : link
In comment 16288629 DanMetroMan said:
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Sherman did a piece where he was now in charge of the Yankees and suggested calling the Mets and offering Jones/King/Hampton. I wouldn't trade Brandon Nimmo, but that's also not a bad package for the Mets. Usually these trade ideas are completely one sided.


Nimmo isn't untradeable for me if there's a good return. He is pretty likely to a corner in the next few years, he's always been injury prone, so he'll probably be a little over paid even if he's still a very good leadoff hitter.

id more doubt that there's a good return with how much is left on his contract. an interested team should just sign bellinger since the QO is lower comp than nimmo. even if it's a bit longer bellinger is 2 years younger. or one of the LF'ers to a much smaller deal. or keirmaier for way way less.

if the mets could get a good return for nimmo and just sign keirmaier as placeholder until acuna/jett/gilbert, id be ok with that. mcneil can move up to leadoff which is probably a more natural batting order spot for him than 5th or lower. reinvest some of the money saved in a LF like gurriel.

a lot of risk in the nimmo contract if the defense doesnt bounce back. but since cohen presumably knew what he was spending, im not giving him away at a discount bc of the contract, so like i said need a good return.
RE: RE: Joel  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:44 am : link
In comment 16288659 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16288629 DanMetroMan said:


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Sherman did a piece where he was now in charge of the Yankees and suggested calling the Mets and offering Jones/King/Hampton. I wouldn't trade Brandon Nimmo, but that's also not a bad package for the Mets. Usually these trade ideas are completely one sided.



Nimmo isn't untradeable for me if there's a good return. He is pretty likely to a corner in the next few years, he's always been injury prone, so he'll probably be a little over paid even if he's still a very good leadoff hitter.

id more doubt that there's a good return with how much is left on his contract. an interested team should just sign bellinger since the QO is lower comp than nimmo. even if it's a bit longer bellinger is 2 years younger. or one of the LF'ers to a much smaller deal. or keirmaier for way way less.

if the mets could get a good return for nimmo and just sign keirmaier as placeholder until acuna/jett/gilbert, id be ok with that. mcneil can move up to leadoff which is probably a more natural batting order spot for him than 5th or lower. reinvest some of the money saved in a LF like gurriel.

a lot of risk in the nimmo contract if the defense doesnt bounce back. but since cohen presumably knew what he was spending, im not giving him away at a discount bc of the contract, so like i said need a good return.



The proposal from Sherman (and again, he flat out admitted he the piece were about if he were running the Yankees not some news piece) is potentially a very strong one for the Mets on paper, in fact I find it very hard to believe the Yankees would do it.
Dan  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:48 am : link
Szymborski's NL ROY "ballot". Obviously has Carroll #1 but here is his Senga blurb for #2


"The Still Pretty Easy Part: Kodai Senga

I’m inclined to like Senga considerably more than his WAR simply because he has a significant history of outperforming his peripherals in Japan as well, so there’s more basis for believing in his ERA than for the typical pitcher in this position. Because of that, I’m closer to bWAR on Senga (4.4) than I am to fWAR. If forced at gunpoint to name the Dan’s Brain WAR for Senga, I’d probably put him at 3.8–4.0 or so. Also, that’s a very weird use of a firearm.

There’s always a writer or two who complains about Japanese players being eligible for the RoY award, but I think the idea that they shouldn’t be is preposterous. Nippon Professional Baseball appears a bit closer to the majors than Triple-A ball in the U.S. is — something like Triple-A 1/2 — but it’s a very different kind of league. While Triple-A hitters may be easier than NPB hitters, you’re also facing a rather different style of play and plate approaches, and now that some of the recent rule changes have hit in the majors, Triple-A ball is roughly a not-as-good MLB.

Despite facing different types of hitters, a spate of different rules, and against the backdrop of New York pressure and a collapsing team behind him, Senga was one of the few players who could really be counted on there. He had some issues with walks early on, and to his credit, he adjusted. But it wasn’t actually his control that was the issue; he actually threw more strikes earlier in the season! Instead, the issue was that after putting up an out-of-zone swing rate above 30% in each of his last two seasons in Japan, he was down in the low-20s early on with the Mets. As time went on, he got a better feel on how to lure MLB batters to their doom; in the second half, his 31.1% out-of-zone swing rate was right where it was in Japan. "
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nimmo also has a full no trade  
Eric on Li : 11/14/2023 10:49 am : link
that obviously doesn't stop most trades (max, jv) but who knows. i dont think they extended nimmo to trade him, unless they plan to also trade alonso and do more of a real reset.
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:50 am : link
Jon Morosi
@jonmorosi
Yankees are among the most active teams in the starting pitching market, and sources say they're showing early interest in Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Aaron Nola, among others.

@MLBNetwork
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:55 am : link
Elian Pena Rossa went 0-1 with a K as a pinch hitter last night for Gigantes De Rivas of the NWL
Doubt  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 10:58 am : link
we see any shocking non-tenders on Friday.

Alonso
Peterson absolute locks

Smith/Gott/Stewart/Lucchesi "likely" tendered

Guillorme I guess could be a surprise non-tender

Vogey is probably a goner

I guess we could see a surprise tender with SRF or Coonrod but both are out of options so sort of limited utility.
Cruel  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:03 am : link
maybe but what a bust this guy is

The Cincinnati Reds are expected to non-tender Nick Senzel
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Named Later : 11/14/2023 11:04 am : link
Very encouraging words from Szymborski about Kodai Senga.

My minor concern with NPB Pitchers is that the baseball is slightly smaller (better spin rates over there), and that the NPB pitchers mound is a little different.

Kodai-san adjusted nicely last year. Now he just has to convince his good ol' buddy Yoshi Yamamoto to join the Mets.
Is there any truth  
pjcas18 : 11/14/2023 11:08 am : link
to the rumors that Japanese players don't like to join teams with other Japanese stars out of deference to the star already there?

If it is true, what do they do on Japanese teams?
RE: Is there any truth  
KDavies : 11/14/2023 11:10 am : link
In comment 16288711 pjcas18 said:
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to the rumors that Japanese players don't like to join teams with other Japanese stars out of deference to the star already there?

If it is true, what do they do on Japanese teams?


lol at the second question. Doesn't make much sense.
RE: Is there any truth  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:10 am : link
In comment 16288711 pjcas18 said:
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to the rumors that Japanese players don't like to join teams with other Japanese stars out of deference to the star already there?

If it is true, what do they do on Japanese teams?


Ken Rosenthal reported that and he said it in reference to joining MLB teams. Japanese players are viewed in a "hierarchical" system so if you join a team in which there is another Japanese star you are expected to defer to him and treat him as a superior (that per Rosenthal's reporting).
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pjcas18 : 11/14/2023 11:13 am : link
In comment 16288714 KDavies said:
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In comment 16288711 pjcas18 said:


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to the rumors that Japanese players don't like to join teams with other Japanese stars out of deference to the star already there?

If it is true, what do they do on Japanese teams?



lol at the second question. Doesn't make much sense.


yeah, it intentionally didn't make sense, because I did not ever see the explanation DMM provided from Rosenthal.

Maybe the Mets have to trade Senga to get Yamamoto (if the Mets become a serious contender for Yamamoto but he is hesitant because of the presence of Senga).
Mendoza  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:13 am : link
is in the house
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Joe  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:17 am : link
Demayo says if he were in charge he wouldn't add anybody to the 40 man today.
If  
pjcas18 : 11/14/2023 11:20 am : link
I'm the Mets, I say F-it and go all in and get Yamamoto (make him an offer he can't refuse) and do the same for Ohtani (offer he can't refuse).

Maybe sell them on the idea that more Japanese players is better not worse.
The  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:22 am : link
impression I get is that Ohtani has zero interest in playing in NY, unrelated to Senga in any way.
RE: If  
Eric on Li : 11/14/2023 11:30 am : link
In comment 16288743 pjcas18 said:
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I'm the Mets, I say F-it and go all in and get Yamamoto (make him an offer he can't refuse) and do the same for Ohtani (offer he can't refuse).

Maybe sell them on the idea that more Japanese players is better not worse.


i'd also try to play that card, perhaps even adding imanaga to the list as well. not sure there's another team willing to pay all of them like that.

doesnt sound like it's in the cards though.

yamamoto and soto seem like realistic possibilities though.
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pjcas18 : 11/14/2023 11:36 am : link
In comment 16288752 DanMetroMan said:
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impression I get is that Ohtani has zero interest in playing in NY, unrelated to Senga in any way.


Cohen needs to be persuasive.

Living down here in Eastern PA, I would love to get Soto  
GiantBlue : 11/14/2023 11:41 am : link
All I hear here is Phillies, Phillies, Phillies.....

Lets trade for Soto and sign Yamamoto to a deal he can't refuse!

We need to get this train rolling!
Padres  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:56 am : link
Shopping Barlow, I’d be very interested
How are you guys watching  
Rory : 11/14/2023 11:56 am : link
The press conference? Since MLB network isn’t on YouTube TV anymore I’m not sure what to watch.
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 11:59 am : link
🔹 TODAY 🔹

The Mets introduce Carlos Mendoza as their next manager.

We will have the news conference LIVE on SNY & on our social channels.

@gappleSNY, @martinonyc, @Todd_Zeile, @jerryblevins, and
@SteveGelbs host our coverage.

⏰: 12 p.m.
📺: SNY
💻: X, Facebook, YouTube
RE: Padres  
KDavies : 11/14/2023 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16288857 DanMetroMan said:
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Shopping Barlow, I’d be very interested


Sure. Add him in the Soto deal, please.
Passan  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:06 pm : link
Says SD is looking for MLB ready SP for Soto and as such has the Yankees, Mariners and Cubs as the favorites to land him
RE: Passan  
KDavies : 11/14/2023 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16288885 DanMetroMan said:
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Says SD is looking for MLB ready SP for Soto and as such has the Yankees, Mariners and Cubs as the favorites to land him


Ouch. That would not make the Mets a good candidate
Cashman’s  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:11 pm : link
Stanton comments yesterday didn’t go unnoticed. His agent essentially said FA’s should think twice about signing with the Yankees lol wow
Why wow?  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:13 pm : link
Joel Wolfe is Yamamoto’s agent
RE: Why wow?  
KDavies : 11/14/2023 12:17 pm : link
In comment 16288901 DanMetroMan said:
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Joel Wolfe is Yamamoto’s agent


So, just to clarify, Stanton and Yamamoto have the same agent?

If so, fantastic!
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DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:20 pm : link
In comment 16288910 KDavies said:
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In comment 16288901 DanMetroMan said:


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Joel Wolfe is Yamamoto’s agent



So, just to clarify, Stanton and Yamamoto have the same agent?

If so, fantastic!


Yup. Joel Wolfe.


Who also represents Senga and Edwin Diaz.
RE: Passan  
Eric on Li : 11/14/2023 12:20 pm : link
In comment 16288885 DanMetroMan said:
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Says SD is looking for MLB ready SP for Soto and as such has the Yankees, Mariners and Cubs as the favorites to land him


looking for pitching makes sense for them given the likely loss of snell and the fact that they are still going to have machado, bogaerts, tatis, kim, etc.

settling for mediocre return would be dumb though. megill and vasil as MLB ready SP options in a package headlined by Gilbert or Acuna seems like something that should be tough to beat. throw in marte fully paid for too.
Wolfe's  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:21 pm : link
quote implies Yamamoto too lol
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RE: RE: Passan  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2023 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16288919 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16288885 DanMetroMan said:


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Says SD is looking for MLB ready SP for Soto and as such has the Yankees, Mariners and Cubs as the favorites to land him



looking for pitching makes sense for them given the likely loss of snell and the fact that they are still going to have machado, bogaerts, tatis, kim, etc.

settling for mediocre return would be dumb though. megill and vasil as MLB ready SP options in a package headlined by Gilbert or Acuna seems like something that should be tough to beat. throw in marte fully paid for too.


Cubs/Yankees/Mariners all have good to very good SP options to offer in a Soto trade. Not sure why it would have to be "mediocre"

Cade Horton is a potential MLB #2, Ben Brown a 3 both are "close"

Yankees have King, Hampton, Thorpe, Will Warren

Mariners have Woo, Gilbert (MLB), Hancock, Bryce Miller
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